Playoff Live Thread: Cavs vs. Raptors, Game 4 (#Extinction?)
2018-05-07“Same as it ever was… same as it ever was…” — The Talking Heads
Have you ever had one of those recurring nightmares that haunts you? You know, the one where no matter how fast you run… how strong you are… how much you try and fight… the boogeyman still gets you in the end… and you wake up screaming? I know the Toronto Raptors (and their fans) have. Only this particular nightmare usually recurs every May for the dinos… and this May is no exception. They’ve tried harder, made themselves stronger, reached the highest seed ever… but still find themselves in a fairly insurmountable 0-3 hole.
The difference this time, is that instead of just images of being chased down by the boogeyman (in the 23 jersey), this nightmare could show flashes of the end of the world as these Raps know it. After all, how many times can you run into the same wall before you have to find a different way around it? Yes, given how they’re presently constituted, Toronto will have some soul searching to do if they are swept away yet again by LeBron James and the Cavaliers. Even if they somehow fight back and claw out a moral victory tonight at the Q… is it really feasible for them to win three more straight against this team (something 129 other squads in that same situation have failed to do — none have succeeded by the way)?
Maybe the hardest thing for these Raptors to swallow, is that they weren’t that far away from being up 2-1 instead of fighting off extinction in Game 4. Despite the blowout in Game 2, the Cavs won the other two games by a combined three points (one in overtime and the other on an instant classic buzzer beater from none other than the Boogeyman himself). This statistic alone should give Dwayne Casey enough ammunition to exhort his troops to give their all tonight to salvage some measure of pride and give their fans back in Toronto a glimmer of hope. On the flip side, Tyronn Lue has already warned his guys about the dangers of being overconfident… wanting to make sure they show up ready to take care of business.
Closeout games are usually the hardest in a series to win. To do so requires the team who has the upper hand to set the tone early and try to make the contest moot by halftime. The Cavs have not been great at this routine in these playoffs, regularly coughing up big leads at the worst times. However, their mental edge over these Raptors should prove to be the difference… even if the final score is much closer than it should be.
Prediction: As usual in the playoffs, no score prognistication from me… I’ll just say that LeBron should once again haunt the dreams of the Raptors, and rip out their hearts this final time with an extinction level event.
Catch all the action on TNT starting at 8:30pm EST, and as always chime in below…
Our top 7 was pretty darn efficient.
Bron: 34/8.3/11.3 on 55.3% & 16.7% 3pt.
Love: 20.5/11.5/1.5 on 47.5% & 35.5% 3pt
KK: 14.5 ppg on 58.3% FG & 56.0% 3PT
JR: 12.5 ppg on 63.0% FG & 71.4% 3PT
Hill: 10.3 ppg on 53.3% FG & 33.3% 3PT
Green: 12.3 ppg on 54.8% FG & 43.8% 3PT
TT: t.3 ppg on 61.5% FG
Only guy under 50% FG was Love at 47.5% due to the 3/13 in game 1. Thing is, the 3PT shooting was not great outside of Green (43.8%), Korver (56.0%!), & Swish (71.4%!!!!).
Bron was under 20%.
https://twitter.com/JohnHillbery/status/993666040159789063?s=20
This was Tye Lue’s best performance at a press conference.
Conference finals are scheduled to start May 15-16, could move up to May 13-14 depending on when the other series end.
Congrats guys for reaching conf finals. I truly think tough series by Pacers helped Cavs. Cavs would have swept 76ers too. Guessing, Celts will be a 7 game series. Another test for the king on road in game 7. Cavs should hope to close in 6 at home.
I don’t see that. Celtics and Sixers both look weak.
I still think Philly has a shot. They should be up 3-1.
Celtics take a huge amount of threes, third in league, I think…? If they are raining them in, especially at home, they can beat anyone…but if they are bricking them, they can score 76 points.
Imagine Celts D on Cavs not named Lebron. Stevens will come up with the best plan to limit Cavs. 7 games may be stretch but I can see atleast 6 games series with most games being close.
LMAO…. Cavs in 4.
Just got the brooms out, I say keep them out. Cavs in 4.
Celtics should be tougher than Raptors but I don’t know about 7. Cavs own a mental edge against them too.
Hill is about to put Rozier in the blender and President Stevens will resort to Goon Ball with Baynes. Also Tristan has real estate in Al Horford’s Head. Bill Simmons is gonna lose it, like he does every week.
Horford is playing really well. Besides, you don’t know what version of Tristan is going to show up.
Can RJ just basically travel on the Cavs plane etc now he’s doing FSO postgame?
Chuck thinking The Pistons should bring back in Isaiah as president of basketball operations.. Good god. Please do, Detroit.
He said that and Kobe was better than LBJ back to back. Yikes
Man. Philly and Boston both just a team full of fake tough guys.
I wouldn’t mess with Baynes.
Sarcasm?
How much of this series was just Love and Hill getting healthy?
Most of it. and Korver too…. he had a foot thing IIRC. Also, it’s LBJ flipping a switch in that Indy series.
Richard Jefferson so good on the postgame.
FSO should bring him back full time when he retires
Hah. Maybe. I bet he wants a west coast job.
He’ll get a national job. He’s very good.
Man…. I miss FSO.
Charles on talk TV criticizing talk radio…
Lordy there’s a T-shirt
https://twitter.com/BR_NBA/status/993690439395012608
Well I guess “Rapped the Bed” officially is a thing. Good thing they have $100m tied up at least through 2020 on this core.
https://twitter.com/Steve_R_Walker/status/993689906080878593
https://twitter.com/Pchopz_/status/993688141432279042
DeRozan and Lowry just 18 pts. Hard to believe even with Demar getting tossed
They’re not allstar worthy. East is just weak, so they have to pick somebody
They’re Kemba Walker all-stars.
LOL Shaq
AND NANCE DOING DIRTY WORK!!!!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
And the first team to reach the conference finals is…
Great one on one defense CEDI!!!!!!!!!!
AH man that looked like a sweet sky hook…. Zizic almost had it.
Everybody except Zizic is involved in this play
https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/993687871658737664
What a freaking pass by Calderon…. and Cedi with the vision and anticipation. And of course Nance with the bookends to the play with the freak athleticism and hustle!!!
Yeah that whole sequence is high art on the basketball court.
LeBron’s dipsy-do in Phantom Cam
https://twitter.com/NBA/status/993685749240401920
Sweet!
Nice !
Let’s try to get Zizic & Hood on the board in the last minute plus.
Our best win of the post-season.
Goodnight Raptors, thanks for all the memories.
The Cedi trey
https://twitter.com/cavs/status/993687551608217600
NANCE WITH A NOTHER DUNK!!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
This team is CLICKING! And LeBron is the GOAT.
GREAT TEAMWORK!!! CEDI WITH THE DISH TO NANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clarkson is still the worst NBA player I’ve watched in a long time. Has he made a single shot in this series?
He’s made a few, but easy to forget them…
Cedi is fearless and WANTS playing time. This is the type of player you go to war with
And the bench gets a highlight play with everybody involved! Block save pass dish dunk!
INCREDIBLE SEQUENCE!!!! PERFECTION!!
NANCE!!!!!
CEDI with great one on one defense… gets a little unlucky there.
That was sweet. God I hope Nance plays over TT next round.
Agaist bulkier Cs, TT does have some advantages. Or if it gets overly physical.
I am with you, however.
HEY GO BOBCATS!!!!!!!
Thank goodness for Calderon!!!! He’s controlling the game.
Remember that game against the Hawks two years ago when the Cavs put up like 80 threes?
Young Z is in!
CEDI THREEEEE!!!!!!!!! GREAT SETUP BY GREEN!!!!!!! You could tell Green wanted him to get going.
Osman!
Cavs’ starters finish the night shooting 69%. Overall the team is at 62%
FANCY WEAVE….. NICE HANDLES JOSE!!!! GREEN THREE!!!!!
Prediction: starters have to come back in at some point.
Unless Green continues to make contested threes.
Nah, I think a 28-point lead is safe
Seriously might have wanted to leave Clarkson in Canada.
LOL… Steph Green returns…
Sloppy defense from this crew. LOCK IT DOWN!
Why is Clarkson taking jump shots with 17 seconds left on the shot clock?