Playoff Live Thread: Cavs @ Celtics, Game 5 (#BestofThree)
2018-05-23I was tempted to make George Hill the poster child of this Live Thread… mainly because his number is “3” and because when he plays well, he brings out the best in the Cavs. However, since Mike covered G Hill’s effect on the Cavs in depth last week, I settled on a shot of the other crucially important matchup in this deadlocked Conference Finals. Kyle Korver is 16 years older than Jaylen Brown, but he’s been able to match the young Celtic’s energy and hustle over the last two games. Even though Brown wound up leading Boston in scoring (25 points) in Game 4, it took him an inefficient 23 shots to get there. Three of those were blocked by the craftily defensive Korver, who I always forget has good size at 6-7 (kind of like how Ty Lue forgets how old Kyle is).
Now that both teams have held serve at home, the series has effectively been shrunk to a “best of three” scenario… which you no doubt learned on Monday night when it was literally the most used quote by the President Genius Celtics hive mind in the post game pressers. Boston would presumably hold the advantage given that two of the three will be played in the always loud and annoying TD Garden… a place where they boast a 9-0 record in these playoffs. However, it’s never all that wise to bet against LeBron James winning at least one road game in a playoff series… in fact, outside of last year’s Finals, James has won a road playoff game in the other 32 previous series. He is unfortunately 0-3 on the road in Game 5s against the Celtics in his playoff career though, so he’ll look to change that tonight.
For the Cavs to put the first post season blemish on Boston’s home court record, their role players will have to exert even more of the hustle and intensity they put on display during the last two games in Cleveland. It will take more stifling defense, more teeth-rattling screens and more Kyle Korver blocks and floor burns. It will also probably take more threes from all of the Cavs’ gunners. They went just 8-23 from deep in Game 4, but still won by nine. A few more of those go in, and the game is likely not in doubt past the end of the third quarter. Korver went 2-5 from downtown and Brown wound up 2-6. Something tells me whoever can win that particular battle will make the difference tonight.
The rumblings are that President Stevens might switch things up in his starting contingency, and that he might go more defensive early with either Aaron Baynes or Marcus Smart (or both) to begin. Hard to say for sure, since Brad is keeping things close to the vest…
Brad Stevens says he doesn’t reveal lineups at media avail—as opposed to recent years, when he did—because he didn’t know he didn’t have to until before shortly before tip-off.
— Chris Mannix (@SIChrisMannix) May 23, 2018
Ty Lue, on the other hand, will likely stay with what’s been working the last few games with Tristan Thompson in the starting lineup along with LeBron, Kevin Love, George Hill and JR Smith. We’ll see if any adjustments made by the President will force more tinkering by Ty.
Sticking to my non-predictions of playoff games, but I will say that I believe the Cavs will win once in Boston… either tonight or Game 7.
Catch all the action starting at 8:30pm EST on ESPN… and, as always, chime in below with your thoughts…
The mystery solved, why Lue didn’t play Korver.
“Ty Lue says that the Celtics “threw us (the Cavs) for a loop” by not playing Semi Ojeleye. Lue says he didn’t play Kyle Korver during the 1Q because Ojeleye, “his matchup,” didn’t check in.
Worst coach in the league…by far….but it’s Lebrons guy. Just like JR and TT…..he created this monster…. /s
oh well.. there is always trae young to look forward to
cavs braintrust re draft… hmmm… bennett or olidipo?…. hmmmm.. waiters or lillard?… hmmmm
and oh yeah, lets go trade with the celtics and ainge.. let’s send kyrie to one or our chief competitors (who is loaded with young talent, a great new free agent (gh), and a boatload of 1sts yet to be used).. yeah, we will get the better of this trade, right? they get who? an injured midget, a 2nd tier forward, a rook, and oh, lets not forget trae young.. pure jeenyus
It’s so bad that when I fantasize about them winning a ring my first thought is, “but then they won’t fire Lue. “
At this point if they don’t fire Lue when Lebron leaves….oh my…
Gee, Lue sounds like the worst coach in the NBA in his presser. Not a great night for the Lue Truthers out there.
Beyond maddening game. 83 points is pathetic.
Yep, not going to beat anyone, even a garbage Celtics team with that.
In an alternative timeline, we would be playing IT and the Celtics. And we would have already swept them.
Ha!
Cavs played fantastic defense for a lot of this game. Lebron better find a way to rest
Prob w/ Lue is in playoffs, he has to adjust more frequently… start JR fine.. start Hill fine.. but when these two turds play like tonight.. you have to yank them early for Calderon and Cedi and give diff looks.. you HAVE to.. you can’t just hope and pray that JR gets out of his funk.. we’ve seen that movie before and 99% of the time, JR does not get out of it… I am so tired of this team, knowing we won’t win it all anyway, i am ready any time to call it the season…. always hope for… Read more »
Lue stuck on 2016 title and thinking everything will change….it was an amazing experience that rarely duplicates…for whatever reason he won’t budge from that mindset regardless of reality in front of him….Lebron has bailed him out every time….may do so again Friday and Sunday
Yup…. there was no reason to stick with anyone not name KLOVE or LBJ… yet, here we are.
I would be extremely interested in Ty Lue telling me what Jeff Green has done to help the Cavs win this series. I’m completely serious.
worse, if u ask Green, he would tell you that he is THE reason why we are in the EC finals… he’s got that ego… he lives in alternate world
don’t think either of these teams can hang with a team in the west….but Cavs really not playing well overall this series…Celtics completely different team from road to home its really insane and quite hilarious….Game 6 should be interesting
Amazing the Celtics are going to win by double digits while shooting just 36%…
this was a game in retrospect where Calderon and Cedi early on woulve helped the team, just thought Hill and JR were useless for too long….Lue has to know when to pull the plug on those guys…Clarkson had some moments but he’s too inconsistent….Nance is too raw…Green detached…Korver hustles but only has one type of play….Love had foul trouble and that ruined him…TT just meh….Lebron was too passive at times….overall no one really stepped up and Lue didn’t make drastic changes when this game called for it, especially with Stevens playing short rotation
“Zizic with some nice defense” is something I would have like to have heard a long time ago…
Even in taking out his starters in a clinched game, the incredibly dumb Ty Lue is two steps late.
Hey… good news… Rodney Hood didn’t refuse to go in for garbage time…
That might mean Lue will start him again soon…
If the Cavs come back to Boston for a game 7, they need to bring LeBron’s hot tub, cold tub and hyperbaric chamber with them.
I fully expect the Cavs to bounce back for Game 6… then LeBron better hit the cryo chamber so he can have a Game 7 for the ages…
obviously Houston’s win did not motivate Cavs or Bron much… i was wrong on that one…. Bron just started passively and never got on track
He seemed weirdly low energy… maybe he has the flu or something.
I feel like that 32 footer was a sign for Ty to clear the bench
This was not a fun game to watch.
Not for basketball fans generally. Yikes what was that. Celtics should be happy to get the W but they didn’t do anything that would suggest they will win the next two games if Cavs play better than godawful.
Of course Cavs other than LBJ and Love also showed nothing tonight to suggest they will show up for a game 7 in Boston. Nance played well but he can’t score enough to be the third best Cav on the floor and win.
Bron’s worst game in the playoff… Love has not had a great series… Korver not enough playing time… JR and Green – too much playing time – pure garbage… Hill another garbage night on offense….
Celtics shot 35% for the game and we lose by almost 20… amazing but true
Bron had a worse game in this series already
With all the turnovers, Cs have taken 10 more shots than Cavs…
This team could really use a game 7 at home.
Game Over, good night guys.
Hard to imagine Cavs playing worse on the offensive side than they have tonight. They may try to top it in game 6.
The NBA loves Game 7s…
kind of feels like that, this was not full effort
Timeout Lue? Bench mob time?
Every second that passed is another reason he needs to go.
Please sit James, Ty
dang it…………. felt really good about our chances after game 4
Game over…
Bron putting very little pressure on the Celtics D…
Cavs assists: 14
Cavs turnovers: 14
Another turnover for LeBron… time to rest guys for Game 6
Terrible game for LBJ…
Clarkson is so raw and young, he doesn’t get what this game means … he just wants play time.. shoot the ball.. .. he’s fearless only because he doesn’t understand the magnitude of the game….. he hits 2-3 shots and Lue falls in love.. just like Green….
Clarkson turns 26 in two weeks, he’s had three years in college and four years in pros. He’s not raw, he’s bad.
+1
Also, refs not calling blatant holds on Korver.
I am probably the most annoyed at JR and Hill for being so abysmal. Let’s hope TT hasn’t turned back into a pumpkin again too. Cavs in 7
Jeff Green is the GOAT at that…
Replying to EG below…
telling me calderon wouldnt just be a better clarkson?
Clarkson blows 2 makeable 3s…. and LBJ misses a layup. So close….
Jeff Green and Jordan Clarkson would probably get a lot of votes for the All Fools Gold Team… if there was such a thing…
JR absolutely murdered them, 1-6 0-4 from three…he is absolutely unplayable if he is doing that…
Tribe wins 1-0! Find another solid starter in Plutko maybe… Miller and Allen shut the door
Clarkson convinced Lue that he was playable with that little burst, and we’re paying for it now.
It’s just not the Cavs night when LeBron is missing layups.
LeBron has tapped out.
i dub this the “tlue late timeout” – one of his special skills
Celtics giving cavs every chance…love has to go in next
I think Celts are something like 2-11 with 3 TOs in the 4th… both teams playing like they don’t want to go to the Finals
Now it is over. I can watch no more.
Enough of Clarkson. Cavs offense in the Stone Age tonight
Why was Clarkson hanging on the rim for a few seconds?
Bowling show ugly
shoe
I just got a flashback to those low scoring Cavs/Pistons games of the mid aughts…
Idk…those games were filled with gritty defense, lots of energy, and tough, beat down offensive posessions.
This just looks like incompetence or lazyness or apathy.
8-31 from three ain’t gonna cut it…
Come on setup a shot for Korver or Lebron
The Celtics want us to win
Okay… stop going to Clarkson in the corner…
Too many 3s. No recognition of the deep struggles. 3 straight stops. Still down 12.
Maybe if the Cavs could hit a couple more shots and get the lead down to 6 the Celtics could end up choking.
Where was this D earlier?
Ugh… so many points left on the floor…
Yep, gonna cost them
Look at transition D by Korver after getting blocked
Tatum had been getting close to blocking one of those Korver shots…
Drive the freaking ball!