Finals Live Thread: Cavs @ Warriors, Game 2
2018-06-03The Cavs are back in Oracle Arena after a very controversial game one loss. That game will down in history and may even be what people remember about the 2018 Finals, regardless of who the victor is.
For many Cavs fans, it will be the game that LeBron James took a charge, that was called on the floor, from Kevin Durant while standing a very reasonable distant from the cylinder. It will be the game the refs decided that he might have been in the cylinder; but even after they saw he wasn’t in the restricted area in a replay, they still decided to rule the call a blocking foul because it looked like one and they could. It was a call reversal the league rarely sees. And, although it was within the rules of the game, it was completely ridiculous.
For other fans, this will be the J.R. Smith game. After securing a last second offensive rebound with the game tied and time left on the clock to call a timeout, Smith dribbled out the clock and said he thought the Cavs were up . Then he said he maybe didn’t know the score with his body language. Then Ty Lue said that J.R. didn’t know the score during the post-game presser. J.R. claimed he did know the score after the game. And, yesterday, Smith acknowledged he didn’t know the score. As of now, he may know the score. He may not. Who knows what’s going on in Swish’s head.
Some of the most crazed fans will think of this as the George Hill game. Hill missed a late free throw that would have put the Cavs ahead to avoid overtime and force a very tough Warrior’s final shot attempt.
This game could even be remembered as the Tristan Thompson getting ejected for reacting to Draymond Green’s dancing and taunting antics in overtime game.
For me, this game is going to be the game that pushed LeBron James and the rest of the Cavs enough to win a title. The Cavs are underdogs. People have been saying that all year. True or not, the Cavs were clearly sick of that talk in game 1 and responded properly.
Tonight, the Wine & Gold are responding to getting worked by the system. I’m not going to say if feeling that way is right or wrong. And, nobody will ever be able to say if the Cavs got worked for sure. For people that want Cleveland to win, this is actually a great situation.
The Cavs are feeling a certain way. In their eyes, they were jobbed. Just listen to their statements from after they game. You can’t change a person’s feelings. If you’ve ever been mad, you know that. When you’re told to be happy, it’s basically a switch to send you into supernova anger mode.
The Cavs are going to channel this feeling tonight, and there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
Let’s look at some things to watch:
- Fouls. The Cavs need to commit many of them. The refs are going to call this game tight, and the Warriors have a guy that’s easily excitable. Cleveland needs to poke the bear. Or, as followers of the blog know him as, the donkey, Draymond Green. Fouling more would also help Cleveland stop fast breaks. The Warriors had 28 fast break points in game one. A lot of those breaks came from guys not getting back down the court because the floor was off-balance. Guys must foul if they think a fast break is going to happen. The Warriors will get easy buckets, and Cleveland should eliminate as many of them as possible. Killing the fast break is the easiest way. Rotations will be blown in half-court defense because the Warriors are just that good, and that’s something Tyronn Lue must live with.
- Cleveland needs to keep foisting 3s. They went just 10-37 in game one, and that was a fluke. The Cavs have great 3-point shooters. They will have a game where they hit 17 3s.
- LeBron is gonna LeBron. He had 51 points on Thursday. A lot of media folks say the Cavs blew his 51 points by losing. Guess what, LeBron can score that much again, if he wants. Anything is possible right now for him. He is currently tied with Jerry West for the most 40 point games in a playoff run, eight. The Warriors don’t have anyone who can hassle the King, and it’s going to be a treat to see what he decides to do tonight. If he decides to score 60, I wouldn’t be surprised.
I’m picking the Cavs to win 113-97.
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/1003475751423766528?s=20
https://twitter.com/bjnovak/status/1003433146048655361?s=19
O.K. That’s pretty good.
Regarding JR, we also lost his ability to go 1-on-1. He’s already done. It’s that or T.Lue completely forgotten 2016’s effective plays where he would put JR on Curry and let them be. I think it’s both. That play brought us another way of beating them because we make Curry defend. Zero of that happening now except when he switches with Lebron.
In 2016 the Cavs lost the first two games by 15 and 33 points. So by comparison they’ve started stronger this year, even thought they’re still down 0-2.
“Yeah, but…” I know, I know. Durant in, Kyrie out. But it’s still too early to run up the white flag.
Win game 3. See what happens. Put them under pressure, extend the series, wear down their legs and watch their shooting suffer.
Yes – call me crazy, but I don’t think this series is over.
This ain’t over yet for me too. But those 2016 first two games we really have no business of winning. The game 1 of this year is different. This is the finals for goodness sakes. Chances here don’t come that often. F*CK!!!!! What a missed opportunity.
Lue needs to find ways to spell LeBron for around 6-8 minutes/game. He can’t roll him out there without any breaks and expect high intensity on the defensive end. Tired LeBron still gets nearly a triple double, but they just can’t defend at a high enough level. They held GS to 107 points in regulation last game vs 122 tonight. I expect that to be better in Game 3.
If only they had a wing on the bench with good size and athleticism who they could bring in for defensive energy…
I think the Cavs can win the next 2 games. But I must admit that I’ve been drinking for the last 3 hours.
No, I am with you… and I have only had soooome scotch…
Yes?
Haha. Good one ;)
It’s going to be hard to avoid all the Warriors slurping for the next 3 days. Yuck. Pod for this game?
https://twitter.com/TermineRadio/status/1003401846415691776
I’m just baffled by Lue’s inability to see that we could use guys like Cedi and Calderón out there. In the case of Cedi, high energy and enthusiasm. Knows where to be and how to attack the basket.
On Calderón you have a team oriented, smart player who knows when to pass and when to shoot. So nothing like Clarkson.
Lue needs to go…
KLLREFS – what is sad is the Cavs are traumatized BC the refs in Game 1. There is NO comeback from that. Series should have been closed down BC of refs un G1.
Agreed, to an extent. The chip they would have played this game with, considering they were up 1-0, would have been immense… you could see the lack of calls was still on their mind. My hope is that the NBA wants this to go seven, and they get served some home cooking in games 3 and 4….
I know this will sound crazy, but I thought the Cavs actually played ok tonight. They kept it decently close most of the game – I think they will be much better at home. As down as we all are right now, we might be feeling very different after Wednesday. I’m feeling weirdly optimistic.
I am with you…
Man I wanted game 1. I don’t know if the Cavs can overcome the Warriors, the refs and Lue.
We play like we did on the road at home we can take these two games. Then you never know if there is an injury. Or two. Don’t want us to lay down. Don’t think we will.
Can’t expect much from Lue, but he’s got to bench Clarkson.
honestly, this series is officially over… Bron knows it. Entire nation knows it. you win that game 1, this goes to 6 or 7… now, sure, we could win one at home, but just to prolong the inevitable for 2-3 days. GS is a GREAT team… just no other way to say it. and our team just has no legitimate stars other than Bron. Love is decent but he’s no difference maker. He would be just a good 3rd option w/ some rebounding abilities. I used to be anti-Bron for many years, but after this season i am truly a… Read more »
Shut up.
Do we have a troll screening on this blog? Can someone propose one?
it’s called I live in reality… I love my Cavs.. for 35 years.. but it’s time to move on…. and we will… i just deal w/ reality… this series is OVER… Bron ‘should’ leave… didn’t like it the first time, but I am 100% behind him wherever he goes…
Your posts are insufferable at best.
I kind of have to side with topgun here, other than the Philly part. LeBron should go somewhere where he has a better shot at a ring and not be held back by a horrid coach and a weak stable.
Only thing I’ll say is I feel like the Cavs, even with the “weak stable” could beat any team except these Warriors. I mean KD just messed up everything.
Teams can change on a dime in the NBA, if LeBron commits to staying, you never know what kind of moves we could make to strengthen the team (or worst case scenario, screw it up.)
Agree with Nick. Why as a fan would like your best player ever to leave? Saying he should go somewhere better as if that can’t be here?
One fact tho. LeBron no matter how great he is on the court can’t be considered off the hook with our financial flexibility. JR and Tristan’s contract hampered us.
You are fixating on some fanciful aspects of this team. When the refs make calls in our direction–and they will–watch how the atmosphere of this series changes… these teams are closer than the media’s estimation thinks…
I’m sure your favorite period of the team was 2011-2014. Those were great times.
Disagree. This team is getting its agitation in order… the home crowd is going to surprise those who don’t watch basketball closely… the Warriors are going to be shocked by the intensity of what we give them…
I absolutely hate the refs from game 1 now more than ever. And I’m sorry, but JR needs to be gone the moment the season ends on Friday.
I second this. Time to cut him stretch pay or whatever. I absolutely recall the last game JR became really hot on 3 is game 2 against Atlanta 2016. He’s been living with reputation since.
Would not have won Game 7 in 2016 without shots he made in that game. But point taken, he has not had the patented JR fuego game this season.
you can’t live in the past.. enough already… how long are we going to talk about 2016? enough… same w/ Lue… he is NOT a top 20 NBA HC… clearly.. except in the eyes of Gilbert.. he can keep him if he wants, as this team will be a lottery team for next 10years
Hey man, that was our first chip in 52 years and first ever for the Cavs, we can live in that moment as long as we want thank you very much.
I’m with Nick ;)
The moment you said how long are we going to talk 2016 shows what you really are already. Gtfoh you fake fan.
Amen. 2016 is our touchstone…
Ok I exaggerated I’ll include game 7 2016. But yeah I think we all agree here.
Every other coach in league and everyone retired in the last 50 years would bench Clarkson.
We came back from 3 and 1, and we should have won Game 1. There’s always a chance.
Durant wasn’t there and we had Kyrie.
Stop it.
I can see absolutely no way we beat this team 4 out of 5. Game 1 was our chance to really make it a series.
The warriors are assholes for keeping their players in after the Cavs emptied the bench. Hate those guys.
Even in garbage time, Clarkson is garbage
Ha!
Cavs never came out ready for this one for some odd reason; Lebron playing nearly the whole game is just weird; we needed to stretch the rotation. Kerr playing guys like Looney, Javale, and Swaggy P,and some random rook; Lue not bothering to play Cedi or Calderon when they are needed for a series like this. Hope tide turns at home; be interesting how officiating is in Cleveland, could be a riot if it remains the same.
Yes, that is Lue’s weakness, as it was Brown’s…
Can we cut Clarkson?
Cedi playing way too far off Curry there.
Lol Curry was outside the 3 point line when he started his step back. Just crazy range.
I know but Cedi should too. Normal rules don’t apply to Curry.
That’s probably the series.