Summer League Recap: Chicago 86, Cleveland 81 (or, Sin City Fatigue)
2018-07-08Editor’s Note: Thanks for CLF for scouting this one again. I was only able to stay away for the first half. I have to “watch the film” to see what happened in the second.
The summer Cavs fell to the Bulls 86-81 in a highly competitive game. With Cedi Osman (rest) and Billy Preston (thigh contusion) receiving the night off, the Cavs were obviously at a disadvantage coming off a back-to-back along with missing two offensive weapons, while Chicago was playing in its first action of the summer. The defense wasn’t as good, and while the shooting was better, it was still abysmal from 3-point range and from the free throw stripe.
Cleveland could not stop Antonio Blakeney in the first half, and trailed by as much as 15 in the second quarter. Blakeny dropped 25 on 19 shots on the night, getting to the rim and mid-range early, but Cleveland rallied in the fourth, retaking the lead briefly at the 6:58 mark. Wendell Carter Jr. retook the lead at the free throw line, and the Bulls never trailed again.
Here’s the report card for the Cavs:
Player of the game: Ante Zizic
Zizic put in a dominating performance with 25 points (11-14 FGs), 11 rebounds, and two assists. He was efficient in scoring, from the post, on putbacks, dump offs, and post feeds. Zizic was really the primary offensive weapon and the Cavs could’ve done a better job of feeding him in the 4th quarter. There were few negatives to his game: he was a little slow guarding the pick-and-roll and had a team-high five turnovers. At this point, the Cavs’ brain trust is brain dead if Zizic doesn’t see regular minutes off the bench this year, especially against any traditional big men.
Best rookie performance: Collin Sexton
Sexton turned in a decent, if a bit uneven, performance tonight, with 14 points, two rebounds, two assists, and only one turnover in 29 minutes. Sexton had a fantastic sequence in the 3rd quarter, with a highlight assist on a fast break as well as a highlight layup on a fast break in consecutive possessions. His burst spearheaded the comeback for the Cavs before they eventually fell short. But those two plays were the first plays that I saw from him that were “WOW” plays.
He looked a bit fatigued: he didn’t move the ball as well and his free throw shooting was poor, going 2-6, although two misses came right after a slight injury to his shooting elbow. One thing he did do better was look for his shot, especially in the midrange… he hit two beautiful off the dribble midrange jumpers. I do believe his somewhat awkward shooting mechanics is showing up on his misses from 3-point range. He’s going to need to develop more upper body strength if he doesn’t change his mechanics. As built as he already is up top, that could be hard to do.
Déjà vu performance: Dakota Mathias
Mathias went 1-5 from 3-point range, missing 4 shots in a row after a beautiful off the dribble three to start. He did make a beautiful assist pass to Zizic for an easy dunk, showing off his vision and anticipation. His shot looks good, his release is very quick, and he doesn’t pass up good looks… but he needs to focus and take his time when he gets his looks. One thing he does well is move off the ball well and floats to space on the perimeter. Another good sign is that he was a +4 plus/minus and generally looks like he’s not a negative when he’s on the court. He was one of only two players with a positive plus/minus. I still haven’t bailed the bandwagon… yet.
Best bench performance: Marcus Lee
Marcus Lee had a bad turnover and wasn’t perfect from the field, going 2-4, but he contributed 6 rebounds and was a +6 plus/minus in 11 minutes. He had a nice dunk as well off an offensive rebound. He’ll at least get a camp invite if he keeps up this level of play.
Worst Starter: John Holland
Holland scored 11 on 14 shots, going 3-10 from downtown, and tying Jamel Artis for a game low -9 in the p/m department.. You’d think he’d be playing better after getting NBA fringe minutes last summer. He seems a big lackadaisical.
Obligatory CLF Duke plug: Wendell Carter, Jr.
I have to acknowledge his debut… he scored 16 points, including 2-3 from 3-point range, 9 rebounds, 5 blocks, 2 steals, and 1 assist. He looked great on both ends of the floor… I think concerns about his lateral speed and shot-making ability were overblown. Even though Zizic was the best big in this game, Carter was a worthy adversary. At the very least, teams won’t finish lazily around him. Ante tried that early and got stuffed.
Clearly, this is the year of the big man if the 2018 draft is any indication… (Ayton, Giles, Jackson, and Bagley were pretty good in their games). 2017 big man, Atlanta’s John Collins had a big night too, dropping 30, including four triples. Someone hire that Atlanta shooting coach.
Another guy the Cavs should look at: Trevon Bluiett, New Orleans Pelicans
From NBA.com:
Bluiett, a non-roster rookie from Xavier, followed up his 24-point performance on Friday with 26 on Saturday. The Pelicans are 2-0, having outscored their opponents by 39 total points (despite losing Frank Jackson to an ankle injury on Friday), and Bluiett is now 12-for-18 from 3-point range over the two wins, perhaps earning himself a training camp invite with New Orleans or some other team.
The next game for the Cavs will be Monday afternoon against the Pacers, be sure to tune in because we should get to see a face-off between first rounders Collin Sexton and Aaron Holiday. Go Cavs!
I do hope Kings extend an offer to Marcus Smart. Force Danny to make a tough decision for once, NBA. Stop spoon feeding that putz.
Lakers better get their act together if they don’t want CP3 to steal Melo from them. He’d be jabstep Nirvana in Lalaland.
Nate…. I didn’t want to agree with you because I was biased, but you’re right… I think the Cavs drafted the wrong guard.
Harry Giles! Coming alive!
George Niang and Tony Bradley dominating out here. Knox is balling out there too for a rookie. He can finish, shoot the 3, not a ball hog… sky is the limit for him.
Just looked at combine measurements, Carter was measured at 6’ 8”. 7’4” wingspan though.
W/o shoes
Looked like it. Meaning 6’9.5″ with shoes making him Julius randle.
Or Draymond Green with Al Horford’s personality….
Actually Al Horford is also only 6-10 in shoes, so let’s just say Al Horford with a more freakish wingspan. Julius Randle only has a 6-11 wingspan. Draymond is around 7-2.
I had Carter above Sexton on my draft wish list, but Bulls were smart enough to grab him even though they need a PG.
Don’t think he is as mobile as Green. He is more mobile than I thought though. Obviously he is bigger than green though.
You’re right Green is 6-7/6-8. So he’s basically a carbon copy of Al Horford with a longer wingspan. Horford is bulkier now, but he was also a little leaner when he came in, and Carter’s got the frame to add some weight without sacrificing mobility. Julius Randle is a 6-9 bull with a 6-11 wingspan, though, so he’s nothing like that.
Green isn’t near 6’10”. Way shorter.
Smaller hands than Tristan…..
Great observations from Ben and Eli in email: Part of the reason Sexton has a hard time finishing is that he doesn’t Nash enough and picks up the ball a dribble or two before he should when driving, giving the D too much time to react. As Eli noted: sometimes he gathers at the three point line on a drive.
https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/1015672475798007810?s=19
It’s 2018, he’ll develop a Euro step pretty quickly. But he does have to work on Chris Pauling it up, slowing down a little and taking the contact where he has more leverage and can use his strength to finish through it.
Actually, Steph is the best at using choppy steps to get close to the rim and then use either use it as protection or fake like he is going to and then slow up and lay it in.
My comments are getting blocked: This is for you, Arch.
He showed off his athleticism big time. Shot looks good, but struggled with the adjustment to the NBA line. He’s legit though.
Sounds like Kevin Knox has played really well for the Knicks.
He showed off his athleticism big time. Shot looks good, but struggled with the adjustment to the NBA line. He’s legit though.
Looks like he has the highest ceiling besides Jaren Jackson, based on what he’s showed.
Ayton would be legit if they stopped nudering big men via officiating/the rule changes. He is cut like Howard/D Robinson but has a j, not that Robinson didn’t.
David Robinson would still be legit now because he was a plus defender and passer. I prefer the rule changes over watching big men plug away in the post for 15 seconds every possession. The only players that the rules have neutered are one-dimensional players. Big men can still be successful if they can put together any combination of protecting the rim at a high level, switching 1-5 on defense effectively, finishing on the roll at an elite level, shooting the 3, making high level reads and passes out of the post and being able to get deep position and… Read more »
Tradtional post play for the most part is gone. Too easy to double unless you are LBJ with the zone rule changes and the increased sophistication of a lot of defensive schemes.
Agree for the most part. Your traditional black-hole, Kevin Mchale types don’t have much utility. But the reason why Lebron can basically back a guy down from the 3 pt line to the rim and still have time for multiple moves is because he’s such a skilled passer and the Cavs surrounded him with shooters. So really, any big man who can pass at an elite level and has the shooters should be able to accomplish the same. Prime Tim Duncan would still be dominating from the post today, for instance. I also think that big men don’t put in… Read more »
Yeah. Very few players in history especially bigs are as skilled as LBJ at passing though, even out of the post. But yeah I think a lot of fundamentals around post play have been severely diminished, especially with regards to entries and sealing off for deep post position. I think the thing that has been hampered the most by current officiating is rim protection. Big guys just get fewer calls on d these days in my opinion. I think this has changed really in the last five years. There are still exceptions but those tend to be in the case… Read more »
There is definitely a higher bar for big men than there used to be as far as even being effective in a traditional role — e.g. being the focal point of the offense and anchor of the defense. Regarding defense, though, I feel like the increased focus on the rule of verticality has more or less offset any increase in general foul calls, but it requires more discipline, so again, higher bar. Shaq, Duncan, Russel, Walton and the like would all be fine. It’s not even clear Hakeem could be very successful in this era because of his reliance on… Read more »
Yeah I think Carter is gonna be really good.
I think a pattern has emerged with respect to how the Cavs scout players. It appears that they prioritize athleticism over basketball skill. I think emblematic of that philosophy is guys like Holland, White, Artis, Blake, and going back, Pointer and Christmas off the top of my head. I’m hoping that picking up guys like Colson and Mathias represent a change in philosophy. One caveat to my guess is that the Cavs have been perpetually hamstrung acquiring talent due to LeBron and the team success they’ve had.
Don’t believe this talk of Lebron hamstringing the organization in regards to scouting, drafting, acquiring talent. How has he done that? In the years without Lebron, the Cavs didn’t do well to find and acquire talent. In the years with him, they didn’t do well either. Organizations such as Spurs, Warriors, Thunder, Rockets, Celtics, Heat have all done really well in regular season wins and still continued to find talent late in the draft. Cavs front office, outside of drafting Lebron in ’03 (congrats on not screwing that up) hasn’t done well since late ’80s.
Because they aren’t drafting in the lottery???
Pretty disappointed in White so far. And Holland. Was hoping for more from both.
Good: Sexton
Better: Cedi
Best: Zizic
Potential needing development: Preston
Not giving up on: Mathias
Top 4 are signed. Hope Colson is still an option.
Oops, put Lee in there beside Mathias.
Preston has soooo much potential by the way. He has such great footwork attacking closeouts, and he can get to the rim in 2 steps from the 3 pt line in 2 steps. To come in with that skill naturally at his position is a huge asset, and I think he has 3 pt range, but isn’t 100% confident in it yet. He also seems to have a solid grasp of how to use his length on defense. He could easily be another Otto Porter type, souped Harrison Barnes, poor man’s T-Mac or something along those lines if he puts… Read more »
White was mostly invisible. Holland just is bad, but you have to fill out a summer league roster, I guess.
Yup…. I’d agree with the assessment on Holland and White. Thought Blake and Artis were marginally better… not that that’s saying much.
Holland is not an NBA player. White could be a fringe energy guy. Mathias could find a shooting niche in a few years, a la Reddick.
Good recap again. I think calling Zizic “slow” in the pick and roll D is an insult to slow players though. His defense is kind of atrocious. I do like what I’ve seen from Sexton. I just think he’s probably a couple years away from being a good NBA player; he has a lot of adjustments to make. But there is no doubt he has the athleticism, shooting touch, drive, and handles to be a starting combo guard. Carter was great but he was much much smaller than I thought. I wonder if he’ll be able to stay on the… Read more »
Interesting point about Carter… I actually like him at that size, I think he retains some quickness that way. I’d be afraid that if he were to gain weight, he’d lose his mobility to be an adequate switch defender.
Yeah he’s definitely mobile. Just kind of seemed like he wasn’t much bigger than some of the wings.
All the scouting reports say that he’s deceptively strong. Pretty sure he can add a little weight and not lose much quickiness or lift. He’s a legit 6-11 with 7-2 wingspan.
He’ll be fine. He’s literally schooling these guys at 3/4 speed.
I like Lee as a bench guy. Sexton is probably going to always be banged up if he goes to the floor that much. He needs to protect himself a bit more. I thought Carter looked great for his first summer league game. Bulls are going to love him. I bet Cavs would have taken him if he was on the board and Young and Sexton were gone. Might have taken him if he was available regardless.
I wonder if Blakeney last year and this year would be a better NBA player than JR Smith.
I wonder if they would’ve taken Carter over Sexton…. I think the Cavs really got stuck in no-man’s land at 8. They had to take Sexton because he was the most athletic, highest upside guard left at that point… but he’s so raw that it’s going to take a couple of years for him to really blossom IMO… I think there might be a legitimate argument that they should’ve traded either up or down.
Rumor was they really liked Carter early, but as the draft approached it seemed like they were going to take a ‘playmaker’, i.e., Young or Sexton, if one of them was still around.
We needed a ‘playmaker’ on the off chance Bron stayed.
Thanks again CLF! Picking up our summer slack. Good to hear Zizic is coming along. Sexton will come along. I’m going to withhold judgement on Wendell Carter until he’s playing against NBA talent.
You got it JMay! Happy to contribute.
Thanks for the recap.
If Colson was in uniform, this team would be really something.
You’re welcome, Jason! I wish we could’ve seen Colson too.