Recap: Atlanta 133, Cleveland 111 (or, Stink-tion Level Event)
2018-10-22Right now, the Cavs are arguably the worst team in the NBA. The Atlanta Hawks were ranked 29th in the NBA by ESPN’s preseason power poll, and despite missing a starter and two rotation players, the Cavs just gave them their first win. While the 30th ranked Kings won, the Cavaliers lost resoundingly to a team they were favored to beat by eight. To make matter worse, the Cavs rolled in the first quarter, going on a 20-2 run and sporting a 15 point lead at one point. Cleveland was outscored by 37 after that, and started the party by giving up 40 to Atlanta in the second quarter. The wine and gold completely lost focus and never never regain it. The Hawks smelled blood in the third and snuffed out any opportunity for a Cleveland comeback by amping the energy, and then eviscerated Cleveland in the final frame of possibly the most poorly coached Cavs game ever.
Cleveland had zero answers for Trae Young who exploited incompetent Cavalier defense to drop 35 with 11 dimes. The rookie went 6-14 from three, and became the first rook since Steph to put up 35 and 10 assists. Atlanta went three-hunting and was clearly trying to run it up late on the prideless Cavaliers, in revenge for years of playoff destruction. The Hawks set a team record by making 22 threes on 47 attempts. To say that teams have figured out that Mike Longabardi’s defense cannot defend the three point would be an understatement. If teams didn’t already know the Cavs don’t guard the perimeter, they do now.
I mentioned the First Quarter. The Cavs looked decent. Kevin Love got 10 and it looked like maybe Cleveland had figured out how to get him going. Tristan Thompson played off him well with three buttery jump hooks, but the dam started to crack when Jordan Clarkson came in and he, Collin, and the bigs kept leaving guys wide open at triple line as Longabardi’s haphazard switching scheme fell apart. Atlanta went 6-10 from downtown in the period, as guys like Omari Spellman and DeAndre’ Bembry got wide open looks, and cut the Cavs lead to 34-24.
In the Second Quarter, I cringed when Sam Dekker checked in, but he wasn’t the issue. He flashed a solid jumper for five quick points as the quarter actually started pretty well. Cleveland was up 12 at the 7:50 mark after a Larry Nance putback. Nance even had the play of the game when he skyed over Kevin Huerter to collect a Dekker lob and lay home through the foul.
But it fell apart because Collin Sexton was a disaster guarding Young, and kept needlessly pinching down on drives, or sticking with the big on the p/r to leave Young with no one within eight feet as he casually switshed a couple treys. Once Trae hit a yolo 30-footer, he was in the zone. Young just started blowing by everyone and met no resistance at the bucket as he went 6-7 for 18 points in the quarter along with Bazemore who filled the lane to get 10 points of his own.
It was laughably bad defense, as the wine and gold became completely unraveled and just kept making dumb play after dumb play after dumb play. WTF moments I saw included: George Hill giving the ball to Collin Sexton on the block as he was being double teamed by Len and Young, leading to a miss; Tristan Thompson playing too high on Alex Len giving him an easy spin and dunk; Jordan Clarkson giving Nance a dopey behind the back pass on the break that led to a Nance charge; Kevin Love leading a three-on-two break as he tried to go coast to coast, and missing a wide open Sexton in the corner as Kev clanked a layup; Sexton and Hill eschewing treys with no one around them to dribble into contested shots, multiple guys just staring at Alex Len as he dunked over littles in the lane; and Collin Sexton getting into Bazemore’s landing space on a three, which led to a flagrant foul as Baze made all three and then glided in for two more for a a FIVE-POINT FREAKING POSSESSION.
The starters minus Hood and plus Sexton were trash this quarter. They all went at least -10. It’s hard to blame Sexton as he’s a rookie, but the coaching staff also hung him out to dry with either an awful game plan or an unwillingness to pull him out and instruct when he was getting destroyed by Young. After leading by 15, the Cavs were down down 64-60 at halftime.
The Third Quarter looked like it might offer some hope when it kicked off with another Thompson jump hook, but Cleveland turned it over on three of the next four positions. After Trae Young left George Hill and his orthotic walkers behind and scooped in a left hand finger roll, Ty took a rage timeout down nine. Only Rodney Hood kept it from getting out of hand as his 11 points in the first half of the quarter kept Cleveland within single digits. Naturally, after scoring 13 in the period, Hood didn’t play in the fourth.
K-Love’s struggles from the field continued, and He and Cedi kept throwing out dopey turnovers that led to points, like this steal, runout, and very ill conceived foul by Rodney Hood for a Taurean Prince hoop and harm.
The Cavs’ were hanging, but the D was brutal. Every point the Hawks made in the third came at either the three point line, the basket, or the free throw line, while the Cavs were living and dying on mid-rangers. The Cavs screen-roll D was a disaster. Two guys went with one guy or the other every time, and the Hawks had no challenges reading it. Collin Sexton lost his mind as he tried to turn it into a one-on-one battle with Trae Young and kept getting destroyed on D and jacking up dumb shots on O. The coaches should’ve pulled him out. I think this 37-footer by Trae might’ve broken him. Collin hilariously got two back the next time down on a 20-footer.
Jordan Clarkson’s hot shooting continued late as he and Nance teamed up to outscore Atlanta 7-4 in the final minute including this hilarious two-for-one drive that gave Jordan an “how the eff did he score that?” layup and the foul. Atlanta responded by getting two more point blankers for Omari Spellman to make it 92-86, Atlanta.
The dam broke in the Fourth Quarter. Trae Young scored or got guys layups on three of the first four Atlanta buckets, and despite Yolo Clarkson starting the quarter hot, a Huerter triple (on a Young dime) took Atlanta to a double digit lead and they never looked back. The Sexton shark show continued as he bricked a bad pull-up and then lost the ball going up on a layup, followed by an out of control layup, followed by a layup that was swallowed up by Alex Len. Someone should’ve told Ty he didn’t have to play Collin, especially when Rodney had his 13-point-third-quarter butt plastered to the bench.
It was a total coaching meltdown as the Cavs frustration became pronounced, and Kevin Love bricked yet another three while Bazemore started going nuts from the three point line and Alex Len (16 points, 11 boards, four blocks) kept filling the lane. Somehow the Cavs regained their bearings a little after a rage timeout, and had it down to 15 with 7:41 left after Osman and Hill hit a couple treys and an 18 footer. Baze and Bembre answered with triples of their own, because even when the Cavs are in the area on shooters, they don’t effectively contest.
Baze (23-5-4) clearly wanted to rub it in as he and Bembre kept jacking and then Kent stretched it to 20 with a layup, clearly relishing his “revenge.” Baze has always played the Cavs tough, which is why I wasn’t opposed to the idea of the Cavs eating his contract to move up to the third (or fifth) spot in this years’ draft. Heck, after this game, eating Parsons’ contract for the chance to draft Jaren Jackson Jr. seems like a bargain.
The Hawks kept on destroying the Cavs as Spellman gave them the 20th and 21st treys, and Huerter gave them their 22nd. Zizic notched a meek four in garbage time, before the game clock mercifully sounded. It was a lesson in early 2000s offensive philosophy versus 2018 offensive philosophy. The shot chart is comical.
[perfectpullquote align=”left” bordertop=”false” cite=”” link=”” color=”” class=”” size=””]Atlanta made one field goal all night that wasn’t a layup/dunk or a three.[/perfectpullquote] Yeah, you’re reading that right. The Hawks took five shots outside of the paint or the three point line. The Hawks look like geniuses for drafting Young and embracing the concept of 3>2, and the Cavs look like dunderheads running an offense conceived by Brian Winters.
And as more than one person has noted, “play faster” isn’t an offensive philosophy. The “anyone can bring it up” mantra does throw off the press, but also seems to lead to at least one or two wasted fast break a night. Oh, and there’s this.
I think there’s a lot of truth to this. We expected Lue to install more Love-centric sets (and just more/new sets in general). Instead, they’re basically running the same stuff with Cedi or Hood playing LeBron + more transition + more Love post ups. It’s pretty discouraging https://t.co/NoacKZj9ca
— Mike Zavagno (@MZavagno11) October 22, 2018
As many have also noted, the Cavs haven’t changed the offense much aside from adding some dribble handoffs, and the sets for Love at the elbow are mostly nonexistent. The lack of shots from the wing and the corner are telling. There is no offense here, it’s basically improvised pick and rolls, improvised dribble handoffs, and Jordan Clarkson channeling his inner Kobe.
And yeah, “Tank Fuel” Clarkson is shooting well. He notched 19 on 12 shots, added two dimes and just one turnover. That’s not gonna last forever. He was also a game low -25 because his defense is as bad as Sexton’s. Yeah, Collin went 2-11 and was -23. If it feels like Collin shouldn’t have played 27 minutes, it’s because he shouldn’t have. It’s a coach’s responsibility to realize when a rookie is getting beat up and to get him out of there, especially when you’ve got a guard who’s balling like Hood was.
Rodney had 16 on 7-9 from the field and 2-2 from downtown, and only played 26 minutes and didn’t play in the fourth after dropping 13 in the third. What freaking game was Tyronn Lue watching? Clearly not the one I was when he described Collin’s problem as “fighting over screens” in the postgame conference, which is the opposite of what I saw.
Coach Tyronn Lue analyzes Collin Sexton's game against the Hawks. #Cavaliers pic.twitter.com/8DyyKtYajV
— Jeff Schudel (@jsproinsider) October 22, 2018
Ty Lue, Mike Longabardi and the coaching staff the Cavs assembled need to make major changes now. But they won’t because they, like the Cavs still feel like they’re better than they are. They don’t have a LeBron to bail them out, but they still take whole quarters off like the King is still in the building. Most of the players don’t get their goofy switching scheme, and they’re getting destroyed by teams with lots of shooters like Atlanta. Lue was still joking around post-game instead of realizing that this was one of the most embarrassing home openers in team history. Right now, this team stinks.
Kevin Love is majorly struggling with his J, shooting just 30% from the floor and 26% from three. They’ve got to get him three point shots on the wing and in the corner instead of above the break, and they have to get him the ball at the elbows. He might lead the league in rebounding (17 tonight), but he has no offensive confidence right now, and they need to get him some.
Cedi Had his worst game as a starter, but logged a team high 39 minutes as he went 5-15, -22, and five turnovers. He still hit a couple confident treys late. Why George Hill (+4, 7-9, 16 points), Rodney Hood (13-3-3 on 12 shots, 0 plus/minus), and Tristan Thompson (11 and nine, 0 plus/minus) all played fewer than 28 minutes and only Hill played in the fourth was completely freaking baffling
Ty Lue clearly can’t figure out who his best players are on a quarter to quarter basis, let alone from a game to game basis. If the Cavs are gonna run guys who can’t get stops, they might as well run Kyle and Channing, and execute some pindowns. Neither played a minute tonight, and don’t even get me started on David Nwaba who is a dude you might want to throw at Trae for a few minutes if you want to slow him down. Who knows? Clearly not this coaching staff.
Collin Sexton isn’t going to look this bad every night, but boy did he look bad tonight on both ends of the floor. Meanwhile Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, had a monster night (12-5-4, +21), helping the Clips get a win against the Rockets as he defended The Beard in critical situations. Oh, and the first rounder the Cavs gave up for the right to overpay Jordan Clarkson? Could’ve been Omari Spellman who lit up the Cavs for 17 tonight. Maybe this is a super secret tank job. I doubt it. This front office and coaching staff isn’t competent enough to pull that off.
Early Live Thread/Diatribe is up… in case you want to read me rant about my favorite Cavs assistant…
Could it be ……
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https://articles.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2018/10/are_cleveland_cavaliers_becomi.amp Good article by Fedor highlighting what we have all been saying for the last three games (and last season too) – the Cavs are taking the second most long jumpers, meaning the worst shot a modern team can take. They are also taking the least amount of 3’s as of the last 3 games. It’s insanely infuriating when you have 3 above average 3pt shooters on your team, one of them being a HOF one in KK, and you fail to move into the modern era of basketball where it’s all 3pt based. KK – .413% JR – .374%… Read more »
Sexton, Hood, and Clarkson are the main culprits on the long twos. Sexton is a rookie, so I kind of throw him out, but Hood and Clarkson reside in long two city. And they ain’t exactly Derozan, if you know what I mean.
Such a Lue thing to do… So frustrating. He is who we all feared. I still enjoy watching these young Cavs but boy would I like it better if Lue wasn’t on the sidelines.
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Looks like he’s on the roster: https://canton.gleague.nba.com/roster/
Come hit a game with me.
Flop of the year for Embiid last night. If you are going to eject players, as they did to Drummond, who react to an intentional flop, you need to go to replay. Embiid should have been ejected for that. One of the most annoying players in the league. At the least he should be suspended.
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/10/23/philadelphia-sixers-joel-embiid-detroit-pistons-andre-drummond-ejected
The amount of ads on that website is horrendous.
Embiid is a clown. The 76ers won’t make it past the second round – and I’m being nice. The league should fine him for his antics and that horrible flop.
Yeah, there are a lot of ads. I couldn’t find a straight link to the vid. Embiid is going to be the more modern Dwight if he’s not careful. He’s never been that funny, despite Sixers fans calling him hilarious for years.
I don’t necessarily disagree with Altman re: playing the younger guys… guys like JR, Korver, TT aren’t going to be part of the future plans, so have to see what you have with the young ones.
However, Coach Lue has to find a balance and find SOME minutes for the vets because 1) it would be nice to showcase them to a contender and get some assets in return 2) can’t revert back to a culture where losing is acceptable if you are trying to build something around Love/Sexton/Cedi. Losing (especially the way the Cavs lost against Atlanta) is toxic.
I am in agreement here. Just to expound a bit. Playing time should always be earned, not given. I am not saying a younger player has to “beat out” the vet for PT. But the younger player does have to show a baseline level of competence to play. Effectiveness in certain areas: following instructions/game plan, effort, communucation, team centric play. If they cannot do that, they do not deserve to be out there. Them learning that lesson is an integral part of their development. Having vets on the team to guide them, show the way, and play in their place… Read more »
Agreed. After the second time Sexton went to help in the lane–abandoning a guy who just hit a few three pointers–he should have been yanked and talked to. When Cedi looked gassed, frustrated and flailed for a foul call, he should have been removed. This is his first look at major minutes and would benefit from perspective. Sexton will need time to realize this is not professional wrestling–you don’t have to one-up the other point guard to help your team.
I am the above Anonymous–misfire.
this will be an interesting year. Anthony Davis will win MVP unanimously assuming he doesn’t get injured…and the rockets, Celtics, and Jazz may be more flawed than initially thought. The 76rs will probably be exactly who they should be…a 55 win 3 seed, and the freakin Denver Nuggets may have made the leap to contender. Obviously, none of this means a thing after 1 week of basketball…but it’s fun to say. Also..after 3 games..Tye Lue apparently is still a bad coach. I’ve read all the longibarfi stuff and such on the blog. All I can say is…YOU ARE ALL CORRECT… Read more »
Davis has been a monster so far. Another ridiculous game last night. I hope he can stay healthy all year.
Joker has sort of become my favorite watch.
What if we bring back blatt since he was originally hired to coach younger players. Lue just rode on the greatness of Lebron….Or maybe hire mark jackson so that cavs will improve their defense.
I’d be extremely down for Blatt…. but it appears that the lack of interest between him and the NBA is mutual. But it’d so fun to see him coach Cedi, Zizic, and Sexton.
No on Jackson. Though he is better than Lue.
no he is not. At least Lue has some humility attached to his lack of leadership qualities. Jackson thinks of himself as brilliant.
(As an interesting aside, several league sources have told Amico Hoops that Altman and Lue aren’t exactly on the same page when it comes to the Cavs’ plans for the season. It is believed Altman favors playing the younger guys, while Lue wants to stick with the older returning vets.) – Amico
of course, the short-term outcome will be the same (maybe 20 wins, if lucky), as the talent shortage is from top to bottom.. but hey, throw those youngins out there.. it will toughen them up for the eventual crawl out of the abyss..
actually, this venue is about as close as i can get to the product without a hazmat suit.. i don’t know how you guys can subject yourselves to the actual thing (re watching the games in real-time).. i get nauseated from simply reading your posts (that’s what bad sports teams will do to young, impressionable children.. i am a miserable product of the mid-60s tribe..
I agree that the number of wins will be roughly the same… but, pertaining to the effect on the team for the long term, we have already seen what the wholesale ditching/trading of veterans/young players could do with past Cavs/Browns teams before. A culture of winning does need the right combination of vets to show younger players how to carry themselves on and off the court and young players to motivate/push the vets. A good front office/coaching relationship develops this. If they are at odds, you get one short-term coaching for his job, the other long-term managing for his…and no… Read more »
Other notes passed along in Vardon’s piece:
* Offseason acquisition David Nwaba, who sat on the bench in street clothes Sunday, will be in uniform moving forward, according a front-office executive.
– Amico
About freaking time.
blake griffin drops 50 in piston win over philly in OT.. i will be shocked if this team wins 20 games this year..
someone below mentioned dumpster fire.. yeah, i think that about sums things up.. let’s hope sexton is not permanently scarred from his tar-and-feathering at the ends of trae..
ANYWAY WE CAN INCREASE THOSE ODDS ———–SOUNDS LIKE TY ALREADY IN —” PANIC BUTTON ” MODE —–I REALLY THINK PLAYERS NEED A NEW VOICE / SENSE OF DIRECTION——SEE YOU TY / LONG-IN -BARF/ AND ALSO DAMON JONES —–LET ME ASK YOU THIS IS PHIL HANDY HEAD COACHING MATERIAL / PROSPECT OR IS HE BETTER SUITED AS A SKILLS COACH ?
He’s with Toronto now. I see him as another Damon Jones.
To follow up on Nomads post below. Ty Lue has 12-1 odds of getting fired, according to Bovada.
Virtually anyone is an upgrade over Lue.
Hammon. Walton. Messina. That would be three good ones off the top of my head.
I would take any of those. Preference with Hammon and Messina.
Clown Car.
LoL 🤣
Lue’s an idiot.
Oh an organization without direction. I’m familiar with that in Cleveland.
Right. To recap:
1) We tell Love we are not tanking.
2) He signs.
3) We tell the vets we are sitting them.
4) After 3 games, we reverse.
AMICO HOOPS REPORTING / PREDICTING WALTON TO BE 1ST COACH FIRED—–I WOULD JUMP ALL OVER FOR WALTON TO REPLACE ”CLUELESS “
Oh that would be phenomenal.
Please pretty please.
Maybe the Cavs and Lakers can just arrange a swap of coaches?
Walton would be amazing for the Cavs. I’ll believe it when I see it. I only see the Lakers canning him if they get a really bad start and there’s anonymous grumbling within the team.
They would be crazy to fire him. Lakers shouldn’t have been as good as they were last year. They should have been a dumpster fire. They weren’t and way overachieved in my opinion. He clearly has a pretty savvy offensive mind. He showed it with the herculoids and let’s be honest, his passing, and more or less running the offense through him at the elbow, sort of unlocked their potential. He has won a ship, has seen first hand, and coached the offense that changed the entire direction of the league when Kerr went out. His father obviously was an… Read more »
Here’s an idea: maybe never put Sexton and Clarkson on the floor together!
Cavs’ +/- per 48 minutes in the three games so far this regular season:
+ 1.8 neither Sexton nor Clarkson (54 minutes total so far)
– 7.2 Sexton w/o Clarkson (20 min)
-13.1 Clarkson w/o Sexton (22 min)
-35.0 Sexton and Clarkson playing together (48 min)
Those numbers mean nothing to Lue…
To Lue those numbers mean they can only get better once they assimilate to one another. It’s only a matter of time. I’m sure come game #74, he’ll consider not playing them together when the Cavs are 23W-50L.
lol at 23W
Yeah that looked obvious from the first game.
So it looks like Hue Jackson is on the hot seat, and there are discussions on Browns’ sites about who would replace him. Fun question: If Lue dies on the Longabardi hill, who do people want to see replace him. I am not too much up on names, but I would like to see a young up and comer with a background in running an offense.
Becky Hammon or Pablo Laso.
Not any of the known/older coaches out there tickle my pickle.
+1 to Becky Hammon
Heard of Hammon and would love to poach someone from the Spurs staff. Have not heard of Laso, but will look him up. I can’t think of a retread coach that I would want to see in here.
Pablo Laso coaches Real Madrid (17-18 Euroleague champs).
https://youtu.be/Wu3zDdnt2GU
“Now that’s a good idea!”
http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/55b10eb02acae716008b94d8-4083-3062/ap_75277625115.jpg
I went on record (If you can call FB that) last spring that if the Lue didn’t play Cedi down the stretch and the Cavs went down in flames, Hammon ought to be Lue’s replacement. She’s the real deal.
Wish Cavs could have gotten Igor Kokoškov…I think he’s going to be good righ off.
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If we can rid ourselves of Lue & Longabarfi this year, that is a win. Keep the pick. Develop Cedi, Sexton, & the young guys. Try to squeeze some value out of Korver/Hill/JR.
Then hire a coach(es) who can design an offense/defense to the players you have rather than forcing the players you have run the system you want.
The only issue I have with keeping the pick, is that we would have to potentially give it up the following year, in a draft projected to be much better than 2019. I don’t think Dan wants to miss the playoffs 2 years in a row, although that could still be very likely.
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I believe Wiggins was limited by some sort of injury, his status is DtD now.
I think he got a knee abrasion or something, nothing serious, apparently.
That would do it.
Reading the comments here, its nice to see others taking delight in the failures of Boston and LA like I am. I know it probably won’t last and the Cavs are a train wreck, but at least I can gain some entertainment from the NBA still.
Ironically both of their baseball teams are in the World Series.
Oh, also Lebron called for a timeout near the end of regulation when Lakers had none, and refs let it slide. So the Lebron stans can enjoy their man having something in common with Blatt.
saw that
#fighterpilotmentality
Updates:
Cavs pick: 4 way tie for last (Bulls, OKC, LAL)
Lakers: Tied for last in West. 2 games out of 8th.
Lakers lise on a late LeChoke.
LAL down 8 with a minute to go. Bron got an assist and the tying 3 with 2.5 secinds left. After he got away with calling a TO he did not have. LBJ instrumental in the Lakers bilding a 6 point lead late. Hoop, stop + a Gay 3 cut it to 1. Bron misses 2 FTs, Mills drills a J. Then Bron settles for a long jumper fading left. Clank. Great game.
Still, we have company at 0-3.
Tying? Yikes. Time for bed.
Walton complaining about the lack of calls.
Another thing Lue was never very good at. Too nice.
It was kind of rich after the BS and1, and Hart being out of bounds
They had no answer for Aldridge all night. Javale got in foul trouble & he killed them. Bron with no boxouts. Sound familiar?
James had the lane up the left side cuz Gay was sideways. At the very least he had a kickout to Hart. Great late game execution by San Antonio. Didn’t tune in till real late. Did Lakers lose focus when they went up 6?
Not really. Spurs blowing an 8 pt lead in a minute to end reg was worse.
LAL played D vs the 3 and SA got an easy drive. Cannot remember the possession up 4. Some kind of miss. DeRozan drove & kicked to Gay for a 3. Then the FT misses. Mills cans one. Bron settles/misses.
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1054603280221913088?s=19
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1054594787133845504?s=19
On the one hand, he’s clearly terrible. On the other hand, head coaches keep giving him a job. Isn’t the head coach the problem at this point?
That is a two for one right there.
Seriously? Professional sports are about results. When has Longabardi delivered? I don’t really care if he and Lue are BFF. Cavs defense has been a clown show for most of three years – not a lot of great defenders, true, but they are always, always, always lost and disorganized.
Lue really wants to die on Longo hill?
At least the Celtics and Lakers lost. Lebron ganked at the line, can’t say I’ve ever seen that before…
Magic beat Celts!! Mr. Flat Earth bricks at buzzer!
http://www.espn.com/nba/recap?gameId=401070721
HaHaHa!
Was feeling a bit blah after this game. But then Boston lose at home to the Magic. Feeling good again.
I still can’t believe the Hawks racked up 133pts. What a disgrace.
I understand playing the young guys so they can learn but games like I wish Lue had gone to the vets in order to get a W. Nothing more defeating than losing in your home opener, a beat down, to a “lesser” team. Who knows, maybe the Cavs are the worst team on the East.
Is it too early to call Love’s contract horrible?
Guess you gotta hope Sexton learns quick. Won’t matter though unless they change the scheme, and then make sure players are prepared to functionally execute that scheme. We not only don’t have the personnel to switch, we don’t execute basic switches correctly half the time. The second should be relatively easy to fix and yet it hasn’t been fixed in a a year and a half. The first could be changed by going to a more conservative approach and should be relatively easy to implement since most of these guys should be familiar with hedging, icing, etc p and rs.… Read more »
Amico (I know, I know…) speculated that the Cavs lousy start may make them trade Love this season. He even mentioned the Lakers as a possible destination. I don’t see that, but if it were to happen in make believe land, I would also ship Laker legend Clarkson’s contract home.
If we are that bad, do we even get a first rounder for him? What a nightmare scenario. There is no way this team is as bad as the game was last night. That would be criminal underachieving.
HOW ABOUT WE TRADE K.K. FOR DELLY —-AND WE WILL THROW IN–(THEY HAVE TO TAKE ) —SWISH —LUE –LONG-IN -BARF
Think the goal should be fleecing a contender/playoff team desperate for shooting for a first rounder. There are several teams I think could end up fitting that profile in a couple months.
“UE ” ARE SO CORRECT ARCH !!
SO TY NOT PLAYING SWISH—–DOES THAT MEAN WHEN LEBRON WAS HERE —SWISH PLAYED ——-THAT IS AN ADMISSION FROM TY WHO REALLY ” RAN —COACHED ” THE TEAM ————–APOLOGIZE FOR BEING SO NEGATIVE / PESSIMISTIC –SO EARLY IN THE SEASON –(ESPECIALLY WHEN I PROCLAIMED I WAS JUST GOING TO SIT BACK AND ENJOY THIS SEASON ——AS FAR AS I / WE CAN SEE PROGRESS—–BUT I JUST DON’T SEE THAT HAPPENING WITH “2 CERTAIN COACHES “———TIME TO CUT THE CORD —WHILE WE STILL HAVE A SEASON OF HOPE / ENJOYMENT AHEAD OF US
Its tough, I was very positive about this team/Ty after the first 2 games as they remained competitive and continued to fight, but the players and coaching staff just gave up last night. Let’s hope it was just a one off experience due to Hawks catching absolute fire….at least Lue isn’t playing KK/JR 40+ minutes a game but there seems to be some teams that could use them as rotation players. I’d love to see JR moved to the Rockets right now, they need another wing…even if its for Brandon Knight’s contract + 2 2nds. Clearly JR is upset based… Read more »
Hue and Lue are really giving the “ue’s“ a bad name in coaching circles.
HaHaHa. Lue is worse than Hue?
It’s pretty sad that certain banned individuals (banned because of their incessant poor and boorish behavior) have enough time in life to continually return to a blog they claim to despise the writers, other commenters and opinions of, to incessantly post more of the same poor and boorish insults Anonymously.
Seek help. Do something better and more constructive with your life. Don’t come back.
We’re not interested in your hatred, garbage takes or personal attacks.
Games like this I miss Mike Brown – at least he could coach defense…
I think Brown completely screwed up schematically in the Orlando series, but his hedge scheme worked a lot of the other time. Sadly, I think Lue may be a decent defensive coach when he is only focused on that. Supposedly he was in charge of the d before Longibardi and those first two years (the first under Blatt) were solid to great at least in the playoffs. When they hired Longibardi that seemed to change. Who knows how much is Longibardi versus Lue, and while correlation does equal causation, the change before and after was pretty alarming. Still think the… Read more »
https://twitter.com/TheRealJRSmith/status/1054208636761923584?s=20
Yikes. Stop with the personal attacks.
Another great cap, Nate!
How big of a tool do you have to be to post anonymous attacks to writers on their own blog? Pretty big.
YES A BIG –“PAT ON THE BACK “—TO NATE FOR HAVING TO SUFFER THRU DOING A RECAP OF THIS “EARLY HALLOWEEN HORROR MOVIE “——–SCARY !!!!!——–MAYBE WE KEEP BOTH TY / LONG -IN -BARF—–WON’T MAKE TANKING LOOK SO OBVIOUS ————-I AM SURE UNCLE DAN HAS– (HOPEFULLY )–ONE OF HIS WORKERS SCANNING / READING THIS BLOG AND OUR DISTASTE / HOPELESSNESS IN 2 OF OUR COACHES GET’S BACK TO HIM !!
OUCH !!!—–37 PT SWING FROM START / FINISH—–YEAH —OUCH ON NOT GETTING SPELLMAN–LOCAL PRODUCT–GOING TO HAVE A NICE CARREER—-OUCH THAT TY/ LONG-IN-BARF ARE STILL TROLLING SIDELINES AS CAVS COACHES ——OUCH—LOVE NEEDS TO GET HIS OFFENSIVE GAME GOING—OUCH—3 MIN’S PLAY TIME FOR ANTE—NONE FOR SWISH—LIMITED MIN’S FOR K.K. —-OUCH–HAVING TO LISTEN TO TY’S —ROBOTIC / REPEATED / PROGRAMMABLE POST GAME COMMENTS ——–BIG OUCH HAVING TO READ FROM ANONYMOUS —( WHO WE ALL KNOW WHO HE IS ) !!!!
This was actually a shocker for me. The first quarter showed how good the Cavs can be but they were then destroyed by simple PnR’s. Every single time the Hawks were able to find easy mismatches and capitalize on them while the Cavs struggled to run a single offensive play. The Hood, Clarkson, Sexton – one against five mentality will hinder the Cavs chances at winning. The are not 30+ ppg players who can go ISO and succeed. All they are doing is making everyone else on the team irrelevant. Also, Lue needs to be fired for not playing KK… Read more »
Turns out, Lue really isn’t a good coach. I’m soooooooooo shocked to figure this out….
get the sense Cavs will mess around with lineups and rotations for first 10-15 games and then state they ‘figured it out’. unless Gilbert steps in earlier to demand changes, expect more of the game through first quarter of the season.
If it takes that long then we don’t need to actively tank. Lue and Longibardi take care of that for us.
If Cedi is ‘awful’ on defense, I’d love to get your opinion of everyone else on the team, including Love. And this coaching staff is not putting this team in a position to succeed on either side of the ball. Deal with it.
I have a feeling this will be DELETED POST
TO A TROLL
“BY” – Damn iPhone
I don’t know how you can make any kind of judgements based on that nonsense game. Just so poorly managed. At what point does Thia team actually change its defensive scheme from the nonsense it has been for several years. We weren’t good for the last two years with it. Why would we be any good now with it? Never seen a team so unprepared like, have so much difficulty executing. Probably because the scheme is and has been wrong for the personnel. I wouldn’t proclaim Young the next thing yet after this buffoonery. We would have made anyone look… Read more »
I honestly don’t understand why you even bother coming here. If we, commenters and writers, are all so ignorant, why post?
Like I said yesterday, I’m sure there’s a Lakers forum/blog you can go onto and give your hot takes.
https://twitter.com/laughingcavs/status/1054165409237295106?s=19
This team will struggle to finish at the basket all season while playing bad defense. Love has never truly been a great finisher at the rim and neither are any of the others. It’s jumpshot and jumpshots. No creators. Sexton has proven he can’t finish at the rim at summer league or now consistently. On defense all the premature switching gave ATL the mismatch they wanted without even working for it. Trae on Love or Len on Hill. Give them credit for exploiting it. They moved the ball and took advantage. That’s what NBA teams do make adjustments. In three… Read more »
We need a defensive identity… I hear Mike Brown is available /s
Mike Brown teams always punched above their weight over the long term. Fairly or unfairly, the Cavs got exposed in 09 and 10 in the playoffs.
Fair point.
I abhorred his scheme against Orlando.
We need the fighter pilot back…
I’ll take a sucky Cavs team this year, as long as it means that Longabardi is gone!
Dream on. They’ve hitched their wagon to him.
Is it too soon to officially change Sexton’s nickname from “Young Bull” to “Lil’ Dion”?
Forgot to mention, those shot charts are laughable. I bet we’re going to see a lot of that kind of contrasting chart this sesson.
Great read. Love sneering Nate after a debacle like that. Not really sure how many years of evidence Lue/ Longabardi need to understand that their switch happy scheme isn’t feasible with this team, especially with Love on the floor. I fully expect this Cavs team to be the worst defense in the NBA this year. Who’s worse? Only competition are Bulls, Hawks *maybe*, Kings *maybe*. These guys made Alex freaking Len look unstoppable. If Nwaba isn’t hurt, his not playing in this game was malpractice. Posted it in the live thread, but at this point it’s impossible to imagine Longabardi… Read more »
So…Lue is not good at lineups. That is clear. Remember when Larry Drew coached and he started Cedi a lot last year and didn’t lose almost at all? That wasnt someone forcing him to play cedi, obviously. And yet…OKC is going to make the playoffs and they are currently 0-3. Maybe we find a rhythm we armchair coaches are not paying attention to. Man that’s hard to see though. Looking at all the variables through 3 games, we have devastatingly poor gameplans. The scouting report was disrespected all year when the king was in town. It hasn’t changed. Attend to… Read more »
Also…Nate, this was somehow both concise and flowery as a piece. It was a boy to read even while it sucked to remember. Cant thank the writers enough for putting in the time
Ugh. Joy not boy