Live Thread: Cavs @ Hornets
2018-11-03One thing you have to give the Cleveland Cavaliers, it’s never boring with them. In the past week alone, they’ve fired their head coach, had their associate head coach all but refuse a move to the head chair, had Quicken Loans Arena named as the site of the 2022 NBA All-Star Game, had owner Dan Gilbert and general manager Koby Altman named in an age discrimination lawsuit by former assistant coach Jim Boylan, and had Kevin Love, the team’s best player, undergo surgery on his toe that will sideline him indefinitely. Oh, and they actually won a game. Who says that LeBron caused all the drama?
Tonight, the Cavaliers head to Charlotte to take on a Hornets team that is looking to return to the playoffs for the first time since 2016. While they are just 4-5 to start the season, they are outscoring opponents by nearly five points per game and three of their losses have been by two points or less. Kemba Walker is off to the best start of his career, averaging 29 points per game, and Nicolas Batum has been healthy and effective to start the season. New head coach James Borrego has done a nice job of finding ways to get as much shooting on the floor as possible, and his decision to play Michael Kidd-Gilchrist almost solely as a big man has paid dividends.
Meanwhile, the Cavaliers are in disarray both on and off the court. They were always going to struggle if and when Love got hurt, but they are also playing an inefficient style of offense that leads to a ton of mid-range jumpshots. Combined with one of the worst defenses in the league, and it’s no wonder why they are 1-7 to start the season.
At this point, the goal should be to try to establish systems on both sides of the ball and get players such as Cedi Osman and Collin Sexton valuable experience. We’ll see how it goes.
And I’m still aboard the ‘Brandon Ingram is just a guy and obscenely overrated’ train. Lakers should have traded him over the summer.
Meyers Leonard is pretty useless. Blazers have too many of those ‘not useful, but paid too much’ guys.
“The Voice” is 1-2.
Vic is filthy.
https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1058892830444306432?s=19
Right in the flat earthers face
Pulled a Kyrie on Kyrie LOL
Atlanta pulls it off against Miami… Trae Young with 24pts 15 assists.
https://twitter.com/ClevTA/status/1058358218148274176?s=20
What? This is garbage. Gilbert isnt near the bottom
You can’t sue someone for not picking up your contract.
Well, you can’t win, at least.
BS lawsuit. Next step is JR suing the Cavs for “going young”.
(And no, I don’t think JR would actually do that).
olidipo and co beat the celtics.. heck of a player
outplayed the ego
I can see it already… Dan Gilbert to the media: “There’s a deep state operating in my FO.”
How many games until Gilbert fires the FO and the coaching staff and becomes the GM/Coach?
@ 1-20
https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/1058460763537297408?s=20
ONLY WHEN I DRINK TOO MANY ADULT BEVERAGES—( FLYING UNICORNS )—-I AM JUST SAYING THEY ONLY NEED 3 MORE WINS ( TO SURPASS YOUR PREDICTION )–I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE GOOD–JUST SAYING TEAMS DO GET LUCKY AND OTHER TEAMS DO UNDER PERFORM
i sincerely hope u r right.. i don’t enjoy seeing my home town mocked..
Cavs bench got clowned tonight. Charlotte has a well oiled machine with Tony Parker, Malik Monk, Miles Bridges, MKG leading their bench.
hek of a game between bos-indiana.. and we could have had olidipo..
6 years ago…
and would have changed the course of history.. :)
Right, which includes my greatest sports memory. So i’m good wuth how it turned out.
olidipo over bennett doesn’t mean no 2016 victory.. but i understand your perspective
I HEAR / UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU GUYS ARE COMING FROM ON SEXTON——STILL THINK IT IS EARLY / PREMATURE——JUST WAIT UNTIL SEASON ENDS —LOOK BACK —WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A MORE ACCURATE PICTURE OF THEIR POTENTIAL OR LACK OF ——-DO AGREE WITH YOU ON KEEPING KLOVE —–AM SURE THEY ALREADY HAVE HAD TALKS WITH HIM PERTAINING TO THIS—MIGHT BE GOOD HE IS SITTING OUT —-ALTHOUGH THE INJURY MIGHT REDUCE HIS TRADE VALUE SOMEWHAT —–YEAH SAW YOUNG HAVING A GOOD NIGHT —WISH THEY WOULD START SEXTON WITH HILL HUST SEE WHAT HAPPENS
Absolutely. Can’t tell anything about him when he’s playing with Clarkson.
On Sexton, I agree–and one must consider, there isn’t much “coaching up” going on with that young man. One must also consider his surroundings, which is the basketball equivalent of summer school…
this team is even worse than i previously thought.. amazing
so much for a new coach saving the day.. send the team over to lourdes
Trae Young with an excellent night so far…. 16 points and 12 assists 5 rebounds on efficient shooting against the Heat.
Also Huerter and Spellman doing pretty well tonight… I continue to think they killed their draft.
the cavs are so profoundly worse than there “comparables” that it isn’t even funny
I’m not sure we can justify keeping Love. This team isn’t one draft away. Love will be 33 before we can contend.
Uh. He has a huge contract and an injury history. He has to prove he can play at a high level again before another team will even think about trading for him.
stay tuned for my orlando preview.. it’s actually pretty easy guys.. they will lose by at least 20.. and probably 30.. will work for most of the games this year
this is what pathetic looks like.. 3-40 my amigos
How many games do you think theyll win?
You do realize that your “realism” kinda comes off a bit more “whiney and annoying”. Either you’re not a Cavs fan, which makes me wonder how you accidentally keep reading and posting stuff about the Cavs… Or you are a Cavs fan that is disappointed with the team and somehow thinks if you insult them enough they’ll magically get better…or you think complaining about them somehow metaphysically distances you from their bad fortune or something… Or you could just like being a troll. Don’t get me a wrong, there is plenty of stuff to talk about the team that is… Read more »
BUCK THAT WAS ME—I WILL STILL TAKE THAT BET—NO WAY THEY GO 3-40
4-39 fo sho.
do you believe in flying unicorns too?
JUST THINK YOU GIVE MINUTES TO SWISH / KORVER—HOPE THEY PLAY WELL—-1ST GOOD TRADE OFFER–JUMP AT IT ———PLAY THE YOUTH—-LIVE WITH THE PAINS—-EVALUATE THE TALENT —-WHO CAN MAKE YOU BETTER IN YEARS TO COME——-CAN YOU SAY “ZION ” ?
so.. did we screw up last years draft as well? do we think either of the bridges was a better pick than sexton?
Yes. Thought so at the time.
The next four guys were better.
who is that on? boy wonder or bigD?
Miles I am convinced has all star potential in a few years. I didn’t think so at the time of the draft tho
I guess if we just let JR shoot away someone might trade for him.
JOEY B RIGHT ON BOTH ACCOUNTS ——THINK WE COULD ALL BE HAPPY / SUPPORTIVE IS IMPROVEMENT IS BEING SEEN/ COMPETITVE GAMES BEING PLAYED
BONZI WITH 12/ 7 @ HALF TIME—–KID CAN PLAY—GOOD BASKETBALL I.Q. —CHARGE DOWN 4 —GOOD GAME ——-PRESTON SHOWING HIS ATHLETICISM—-NEEDS A TON OF AKILL WORK / PLAYING TIME
Sexton is minus 24 in 13 minutes. Against Charlotte.
g hill vs tony parker.. hmmm.. how come we always get the wrong dudes?
Lebron carried this team to the finals. There should be no more discussion of greatest ever.
YES..YES..YES…… it is truly a mystery for the ages.. what he was able to do with this mess!!!!!!
Well, at least we don’t have to tank to keep the pick.
surprising even me.. r u fu$%king kidding me??!! 110-81 @ 7:00 in 4th..
who was saying they wanted to make bet about 3-40?
years ago, someone smart said “hope is not a method”.. cavs dan and the boy wonder need to wake up..” i think we can.. i think we can” doesn’t work either..
*sigh* Bridges would look so good filling in for Kevin Love right now.
Someone explain jr over Nwaba.
Cavs do not have a starting nba quality player at any position. Also, they appear confused on both ends, and in transition. These things may not forebode a good season…
The ton/son backcourt has to go. They are AWFUL together.
Yeah. Makes no sense at all.
Charlotte ball movement just vastly superior
CHA is not a great team.. kemba is not en fuego.. cav-nots are still down by 20 at end of 3rd.. so, they are having their asses handed to them by who? mediocre players.. not a good sign
parker.. aka father time.. is having a decent game.. but he is way past his prime
Why whould you even have clarkson on the floor there on a defensive possession? Thats just terrible coaching.
The bench is all out of sync
Jesus. The dumb turnovers this game.
Long twos…
Korver getting mugged out here
Korver so good without the ball.
Nice ball movement!!! Nance with the and 1
Nice play out of to. Nice finish, Larry
WISCONSIN HERD UNIFORMS ARE SWEET !!!
YEP RIGHT ON SCHEDULE TO GO 3-40- RIGHT BUCKO
That sounds like a February prediction
Id try nwaba on parker.
just checked in to espn for the score..85-68 @2:21 of 3rd.. right on schedule
You think they’ll win?
i wish they would.. i don’t enjoy this any more than you do.. i have just surrendered to my cynicism.. fighting it is to hard.. i hope they can make some good moves.. luck into some good draft picks.. and grow a decent team.. not holding my breath, but i would like that for all concerned
Charlotte bench just destroying them. They have no answer for Parker.
Why not try ZZ?
Clarkson nice steal! Sexton terrible TO stepping out of bounds
Sexton pull up!!!
Argh the turnovers! just shoot the open wing three, Cedi!
Section what a steal!!!!
Sexton
Dekker with a six point swing on the miss.
Nice finish Clarkson!!!
How many wins by February?
TT at the elbow is dumb.
Tt bails out an awful possession with a strong post move.
Tt nice finish!
CHECKING OUT SOME OF THE CHARGE —BONZI IS THEIR BEST PLAYER—-PRESTON LOOKS REALLY RAW—HOLLAND IS WHAT HE IS——WOULD SWITCH BONZI / HOLLAND—MAKE BONZI 2 WAY PLAYER / CONTRACT
Dekker and tt not rebounding on defense.
Cavs not rebounding at all on d.
Fantastic no look pass by cedi to dekker!!!!
Rodney hood is useless this game
.. and then scores! Nice pass cedi to Sam!
Nice acting job, cedi.
Nice pass hood tt with the finish!!!