Recap: Orlando 102, Cleveland 100 (The Vets Showed Up and The Refs Backed Off)
2018-11-05The Cavs fought back tonight only to lose to an Evan Fournier last second shot. After being down 11 at halftime, Cleveland held the Magic to just 12 points in the third while scoring 32 themselves behind what seemed like 8,000 Tristan Thompson screens. Cleveland entered the fourth with a nine point lead and all the momentum in the world. A twenty point swing will do that.
For most of the fourth, the Cavs held the Magic at bay, as they made little runs. After the Magic grabbed six straight points to get within three with 6:58 to go, Jordan Clarkson hit a jumper to stop the run. With 3:33 to go, the Magic grabbed a lead off a Fournier 3-pointer. But the Cavs didn’t buckle. George Hill took over to guide the team hitting two mid-range jumpers in a row before pulling up from deep to put the Cavs ahead 95-92 with 2:10 left. He then nashed the ball and found TT under the basket to extend the lead to 97-92. With 42.2 seconds left, J.R. Smith hit a dagger 3-pointer to set the score at 100-95 forcing a Magic timeout.
All of the threes.#BeTheFight https://t.co/n9bwPey2Na
— Cleveland Cavaliers (@cavs) November 6, 2018
Aaron Gordan ripped down an offensive board on the following possession and put it back in, but the Cavs still just needed to hold the ball and hit some free throws, since the shot clock was at 23.8. It went bad though.
Cedi Osman tossed the ball away to the Magic on an errant pass towards Clarkson. Clarkson then fouled for some reason and the Magic brought the game to within one point. After a timeout, the Cavs inbounded the rock to Kyle Korver anticipating a foul, but the refs let the teams play. The Magic swarmed and Korver lost the ball after being hacked. The Cavs ended up fouling again, and Orlando made one of their two free throws to tie the game.
In the waning moments of the Cavs game, a loss at the buzzer in Orlando, the refs did not feel Kyle Korver was fouled here. Can't wait for the NBA 2-minute report. pic.twitter.com/HTjWqrtaeF
— Matt McCoy (@MattMcCoyRadio) November 6, 2018
After taking another timeout, the Cavs were unable to get a solid look. George Hill got deep into the paint and had his shot blocked after not getting any separation. He then appeared to be fouled as he fought for the board, but the refs were nowhere to be found. The rest is history and won’t be talked of after this. The Magic got the ball, called a timeout, and closed the game on a tough shot.
This was a weird night. From the start, the Cavs were running a lot of off-ball screens set by Thompson. Thompson wasn’t rolling hard and the team had some trouble stringing together multiple actions to create shots, but it was an attempt at an running offense. Tristan made it work in the first getting seven points, including an old school 3-point layup. He finished the night with 19 points and 16 boards. George Hill also helped in the first chipping in 6 on 3-3 shots including a beautiful steal he took coast to coast. He finished the night with 22 points on 10-12 shooting to go with six assist and four steals. While the vets were showing up in the first, the team still turned it over four times times giving the Magic nine points. And, Aaron Gordan just abused the smaller Sam Dekker. He bulldozed him getting 10 0f his 23 with ease. The Cavs second line also got sloppy at the end of the quarter giving up two Terrence Ross 3s to enter the second down, 21-30.
The offensive motion that Cavs attempted in the first started to pay off a little as the second quarter went on. Clarkson carried the Cavs early scoring two 3s and a two off a Larry Nance tap-out steal. J.R. Smith then stepped up canning a 3-ball off a TT off-ball screen and then finding TT for an oop off another off-ball pick. 80% of the Cavs shots were assisted on. The Magic continued to feed Aaron Gordan who got six points and punished any mismatches he saw. Between that and Cleveland’s seven give aways the Magic were able to score without a ton of effort. They also finished the quarter on a 9-2 run to end the half up, 58-47.
The Cavs came out in the third and looked the best they have all season. This was partially a result of their own efforts and partially because of the Magic not being very good. The Cavs got off a 10-0 run to tie the game. Basically, Tristan started setting screens every single possession and guys either received a DHO from him, pulled up behind him or drove in, or hit him rolling. Six buckets came off his screens and two came from him diving. One basket came from a steal and another came from a tip back by the artist known as Canadian Dynamite. And, two shots came out of solo action. The Cavs repeated what works. Jordan Clarkson capped the quarter off with a four-point play.
Defensively, the Cavs didn’t have to do much. The Magic started chucking when their shots wouldn’t drop. They went 2-10 from deep. And, that’s how the Cavs ended up being in a great position to win a game. We won’t relive the fourth again though.
Gripes
- Larry Drew had the Cavs in a position to win and they didn’t. Sure, the refs were bad. Sure, Drew could have burned a timeout to help the young guys with their nerves. Sure, Cedi could have avoided tossing the ball away. Sure, Clarkson could have avoided fouling towards the end of the game. Lots of things could have gone different, but this is part of watching a bad team. What can go wrong, will go wrong. There’s a reason the Cavs are on pace to win just eight games this year.
- Cedi Osman is struggling. He was 5-17 for just 11 points. He did grab 10 boards though and he was present defensively.
- The defense needs to learn how to swap guys out when they are switching. The Cavs often end up in a position where a smaller player gets stuck onto a center when covering a pick and roll. If the play continues after the initial screening action, the Cavs need to learn to help the little guy out. If a bigger player is nearby, he needs to tell the little man on the center to scram. J.R. Smith shouldn’t end up on Nikola Vucevic if a guy like Tristan Thompson is covering a perimeter oriented guy.
- It was frustrating watching Sam Dekker cover Aaron Gordan. Same with J.R. Smith. Gordan should have been Tristan’s assignment. He’s simply too big and strong for a lot of the Cavs. I’m willing to bet he doesn’t have the same effectiveness dribbling against a guy he can’t bulldoze.
- The Cavs are running an offense that involves only strong side action. Most of the time it only involves two guys. The man with the ball and the man screening. Thankfully, the Magic aren’t good defensively. They didn’t snuff out any of the pick and rolls tonight. They didn’t even figure out that TT wasn’t a threat to score off the roll unless he was wide open. Larry Drew needs to get the weakside man cutting. He needs to get multiple things happening for a defense focus on. He needs to work on getting Larry Nance and Channing Frye more minutes. Both of those guys are more dynamic than Tristan and would be able to run the same screens with the same or greater success with the first unit.
- Collin Sexton is just too weak. He can’t handle the ball when guys push into him. He had two assists, two turnovers, and five points. He needs to learn to be a driver. He dribbles two steps forward, then bounces back a step. He dribbles left to right. He’s too jittery for his own good. If he applied himself to charging the rim, he’d get to the line and defenders would lay off of him for fear of being burned off the dribble.
Hypes
- The Vets talked and the vets delivered. Hill guided the Cavs in the fourth tonight and stayed active. J.R. Smith had his second 14 point game in a row and chipped in three assists and four boards. TT had a career game. He may not be the best finisher in the world, but when he’s just slamming every player he sees, he’s very valuable.
- Clarkson had 14 points on 5-10 shots. He’s a ball hog. He passes only when he’s confronted by three or more defenders. However, when the vets are leading the team and the game is going steady, his spark plug scoring can help the team. It’s not just empty points.
- The Cavs finally hit some more 3s. They went 10-23. They still need to take about five more per game.
- Tonight was a learning experience. Cedi won’t pass the ball again when the opposing team has to foul in order to get the ball back. That’s a guarantee. Larry Drew won’t watch the team lose their grip without taking a timeout. Clarkson won’t foul when it’s not absolutely necessary. And, the team won’t rely on the refs to bail them out or help them.
- The Cavs take on the Thunder on Wednesday night. Let’s see if they can perform like this again.
https://twitter.com/treyzingis/status/1060158325520822272?s=20
Yeah. Did this myself the other day. Collin has been terrible. But then again every other cav has basically a negative rating other than Nance who is plus 1.6 BPM.
However, while I like Young and think he will be good, he is in no way good yet. Not even close. If Sexton has been abjectly terrible, Young has been just plain terrible. Doncic has had some great games, but he is not a world beater yet.
https://twitter.com/BenAxelrod/status/1060195475800895488?s=20
Or the #1 pick for the Charge.
THAT IS WHY I AM A CTB BLOGGER AND NOT A NBA G.M. : )—–GOOD PTS ARCH ——-IS THERE A PLAYER ON CAVS THAT MIGHT SWEETEN THE DEAL TO SWAP SPOTS ?—–AM THINKING PROBABLY CEDI
I don’t think so. It’s rare for teams to swap spots in the NBA. I remember in the 2012 draft, Chris Grant offered New Orleans several drafts picks to swap spots and they rejected it. Most teams want to sell their fan base on the future. So unless you’re offering Durant, LeBron, AD, Curry, etc. it’s less likely you will be able to move much.
In addition, teams that are drafting number one (ordinarily), are more than one all-star away from being good enough to warrant trading out of the first spot. AKA, Love isn’t going to be as valuable to the franchise drafting number one.
Exactly
I KNOW I AM “LEAPING WAY AHEAD ” HERE —BUT LET’S SAY CAVS FINISH WITH THE 2ND OR 3RD PICK IN THE DRAFT AND REALLY WANT THE PLAYER THAT WILL GO # 1—-DO WE SAVE LOVE / T.T. IN ORDER TO POSSIBLY MOVE UP TO # 1 PICK WITH THOSE GUYS TRADE VALUE OR OTHER CAVS PLAYERS / TRADE TO MOVE UP AND JUST SWAP DRAFT SPOTS
It’s doubtful that teams will trade out of the #1 pick slot. And throwing in Love or TT doesn’t sweeten the deal.
SO IF THE CAVS WOULD NOT GET THE # 1 PICK—-FALL TO 2 OR 3 —-IS THAT / WOULD THAT STILL BE A GOOD CONSOLATION PRIZE / PICK / PLAYER ———-YEAH YOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT ON THE TRADES ——MOST EXPERTS ARE SAYING THE CAVS WILL NOT GET A 3 1 PICK FOR HILL / SWISH / KORVER OR T.T. —-HAVE TO SETTLE FOR 2ND ROUND OR A PLAER DEEP ON THEIR BENCH —OH WELL
The Cavs may be able to get a first next summer for either JR or Hill, simply because those contracts are only partially guaranteed. Say a team wanted to shed $20 million, so then they trade for Hill, and cut him, and only have to pay out $1 M. Same with JR, but for less $.
What arch said. Cavs can move those guys to eat bad contracts and get picks but it won t happen till closer to deadline.
Kyrie fined $25 K for his unhinged tantrum.
GRIMES FROM KANSAS LOOKS LIKE HE MAY BE A PROSPECT ALSO —————-AGAIN ( I AM REPEATING MYSELF )—-WHY NOT BLOW IT UP——HILL / SWISH / T.T. / KORVER / LOVE –GET ON THE PHONES —-GET MORE YOUNG PLAYERS / DRAFT PICKS ——-PLAY THE YOUTH —-EVALUATE –WHO STAYS –WHO GOES —–ACCEPT THE FACT WE ARE IN FULL BLOWN REBUILD MODE —–AND START “THE PROCESS “
I think Korver is the most likely to get traded, if they will settle for a 2nd round pick. Unfortunately, it sounds like they are holding out to grab a first from some team.
J.R. won’t get traded until the summer.
Hill could get traded at the deadline, if not definitely in the summer.
After the surgery, no one will want Love’s contract, until he can reestablish himself.
SO LET THE TANKATHON START———–I MEAN CONTINUE ;)
JMAY YOU BEAT ME TO IT—DIDN’T WATCH THE GAME(S) LAST NIGHT –WHAT IS EVERYONE’S OPINION
I personally like Barrett a bit better. I think his shot is more consistent.
It for sure is. But man Zion is one of the best finishers I have seen. I really don’t know how you keep him from getting where he wants to go at that size, speed, and agility. Reminds me of LBJ in that regard.
Who would you rather draft, Barrett or Williamson?
Tough. Barrett really may be more NBA ready. But it is tough to bet against Zion, especially if he can make the occasional jumper like he did last night. I mean it seems near impossible to prevent either from getting to their spots. Zion seems to be able to score in the paint through or over length anytime he wants.
It sounds like both we be great selections
‘would be’
Higher floor, Barrett, higher ceiling Williamson. Depends on what you want…. a unicorn power/point forward, or an elite scoring 3 and D.
At least the Cavs aren’t the Wizards… LMAOOOO
Right now, I’d rather be the Wizards.
agreed..
That was one of the most impressive performances by a group of freshmen against a big time opponent I have ever seen. Man I am just stunned. Zion and Barrett are FOR REAL. Reddish could be really good too. Damn. Zion with 28 on 11/13 (1-1 on threes), Barrett with 33 on 13-26 (3-7 on threes), Reddish with 22 on 6-14 (3-8 on threes). Number four ranked Duke knocks off number two ranked Kentucky by 34 points 118-84.
32 and 0 is within the realm of possibility with these kids.
Zion also made one of the most spectacular defense to offense plays I have ever seen in college.
The top of this draft won’t be as bad as predicted. Just not the depth of this year’s class.
Like I said. If those two keep having games like this, they are hands down the best prospects since Anthony Davis.
Reddish with a great drive and ridiculous finish thru contact. This team is so stupidly stacked with those three and their complementary pieces.
Oh what a pass by Zion.
Damn Barrett is so smooth.
Zion post ups FTW.
He has 26 points on 12 freaking shots.
Zion literally can score anytime he wants in the paint.
So everyone cheering for Sacramento rest of season, otherwise Boston ends up with one of these guys from Duke
Good God, what a nightmare
Good to know…. GO SAC-TOWN!!!
Good God. Please let us get the number one. The handles, the first step, the leaping ability, the vision, the tenacity. Give me Zion. Both Barrett and Zion look like surefire stars and I would take either in a heartbeat over basically anyone from the last 5 drafts, but I have never seen anyone like Zion in college.
ZION WILLIAMSON CROSSOVER ON THE PICK AND ROLL>>> OH MY
This is ridiculous.
Zion is playing point guard right now.
Why not? You saw that pass. He has great handles. Dribbles lower than most NBA guards. I mean the kid is the real deal.