The Cavaliers draft Tristan Thompson
2011-06-23
The Cavs passed on Jonas Valanciunas and drafted Tristan Thompson. Here is our draft profile on Tristan Thompson. I do not like this pick.
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The Cavs passed on Jonas Valanciunas and drafted Tristan Thompson. Here is our draft profile on Tristan Thompson. I do not like this pick.
While I was hoping for Enes to be available at four, I like the TT pick. This guy has a ton of potential, plays EXTREMELY hard, and is super athletic. I also think of it this way- he’s going to compliment Kyrie better then I think JV would have. TT’s ability to get to the line so often is GOOD FOR TEAM- not just himself. Getting over the limit in fouls early in the half’s is a huge advantage because EVERYONE on your team can now get to line on any foul. Are you going to want Kyrie to go… Read more »
@David. That trade makes no sense in the context of when we were drafting because BOBCATS ALREADY TRADED THE 19th PICK BEFORE THE DRAFT. That rumor is false. TT must have been for something else
The Cavs didn’t want Thompson. They were going to trade him to the Bobcats for JV and the 19th pick, but the Raptors took JV and spoiled their plans, according to an article on yahoo sports before the draft: “Cleveland wants to draft 7-footer Jonas Valanciunas of Lithuania, but had a scenario where it could get him and also land the 19th overall pick belonging to the Bobcats, sources said. Charlotte has the ninth pick, and desperately wants Texas’ Tristan Thompson. The Bobcats believe that Thompson won’t get past Detroit with the eighth pick and need the Cavaliers to take… Read more »
Ok, now we’re talking. Agreed that the aggregated measure Hollinger uses is not particularly illustrative and wish he’d put out a little more complete discussion on why certain guys ranked so highly. DraftExpress guys do a great job with that sort of thing. Would say that a big part of Hollinger’s thing is the youth that Thompson has on his side. When you’re comparing to a guy like Faried that’s huge. Not sure I wouldn’t put Thompson’s ability to draw fouls and get offensive boards into the great category for what it’s worth (maybe blocks too). Faried is kind of… Read more »
kenneth fareed is 6’7 thats undersized as well, beyambo well dont know to much about him but as i did my comparison aldridge came into the nba with none of the big stats, too know he’s hitting 15-20ft jumpers and can say the same about stodemire, just a althete who they will develope . not saying tt will be that good but they did predict him being in the top 7 picks. so the work out thing must of went well
I take your point, Matty, but I always look at a few advanced metrics that give you a better look at what kind of player a guy is. http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Just-By-the-Numbers-the-2011-Big-Men-Crop-3754/ is a very good example. Tristan Thompson is a terrible shooter, turnover prone, a bad defensive rebounder. He has 4 skills, and none of them are GREAT: straight line drives, drawing fouls, offensive rebounds, and blocking shots. He is a terrible fourth pick. An individual workout should be a validation of what your scouting and the stats bear out, not the end all be all. Guys have bad days, off days.… Read more »
my point is alot of over seas guys end up being bust too, hell kanter may not pan out to being a good nba player they compare him to mehmet okur. is that somthing to be excited about. so picking up a atheletic player like tt who is compared to a lamicheal aldridge ill take that . i think we did the best we could with what was in this draft and will soon have a good young talent team with all the trade options we have, hoopsdogg.
Good point by Robin on the FT drawing ability of Thompson. Would be good to examine that. But for those who are just writing off the stats without making arguments, I’m wondering exactly what do you non-statheads want us to use to measure the quality of these prospects? I’m guessing few have watched extensive game tape of Thompson, let alone Valanciunas. In terms of in-person workouts it sounds like Thompson basically blew the Cavs away. I take that with a grain of salt, but if you hate stats, then that must mean something, right? Do people want us to ignore… Read more »
Well, triston won’t be playing either. Most 5th string power forwards dont get much playing time
No one’s playing in the USA till at least 2012, c p.
you call your self cleveland fans…. jv may not even play in the usa so it would of been a waisted pick. so why not get the next best player in… tt to help mode the team . grant did the best he could with this horible draft of talent
Haha Robin. I bet Grant never realized that statistically why he was going to the line so much is because he’s being fouled on purpose. ARGH.
Grant blew it. We had the first pick and didn’t take Williams to put pressure on the next two who all had point guards to take the guy they didnt really need and then get irving with the number 4 pick.
there is no justifiable reason to take a role player with the number 4 pick
The important thing is that we got Kyrie Irving. But I can’t help but be disappointed in this draft. I don’t know how good Thompson or Valanciunas will be. But for Thompson to be a good pick he has to end up not only better than Valanciunas, but better by a wide margin. He has to be All-NBA. You just can’t get good talent at Center. Power forward talent is fairly available. In fact, we already had some on this team. Including a guy who is pretty young. If the Cavs used a method similar to Hollinger’s draft rater, there… Read more »
for all the people who say that he is good at defense I have two say to you:
1. Who will he guard? To short to shut down opposing pf’s, and there is no way he can guard 3’s or 5’s.
2. If you want want defense, than pick chris singilton instead of this piece if s**t.
We should definitly trade him. I never did like thomson (he’s what, the 5th string pf!?!?) Maybe we can get a second rounder for him