A Tale of two Recaps: Cleveland 100, Minnesota 98 (or, Baseline Competence)
2021-02-02Congrats on scoring a C+, Cavs. After falling to Minnesota 109-104 (in a game that wasn’t that close) Sunday, Cleveland barely hung on to beat the Wolves Monday night without Andre Drummond and his soul-crushing parade of post-ups slowing them down. While a lot of really good things happened for the wine and gold last night, the Cavs weren’t without their glaring problems as they hung on to beat one of the NBA’s three worst teams who were playing without their best player.
Andre Drummond finished with 25/22/4 Sunday. It was clear then, that the dictate to get him post touches is sucking the life out of the Cavs’ offense. The Cavs offered up a paltry 16 three-pointers to the basketball gods. Monday wasn’t that much better, as they put up 22 and canned 35 of 84 from the field as opposed to 41 of 84 Sunday. The biggest improvement: six fewer turnovers for Cleveland as the Cavs were freed from the monotony of a Drummond offense and everyone seemed to play with more “joy.” Did the newfound freedom allow Cedi Osman to go 2-8 from inside the arc and Taurean Prince to go 1-7 from behind it on Monday? Sure, but we’re talking baby steps, here, folks. The other big improvement: a better march to the free throw line, especially in the second quarter when the Cavs got in the bonus with eight minutes left, and a much more efficient scoring threat inside.
CLF said it better than I ever could how painful Drummond has been for Cleveland this year despite a usage that is way too high.
This is how poorly designed the offensive scheme has been so far this year:
Drummond accounts for 31% usage, which is in the 98% percentile in the NBA.
His offensive EPM is -1.4, which is ranked 8th best on the Cavs’ roster… one spot BEHIND Thon Maker, who was at -1.0.
Woof. Fortunately, Dre’s “substitute” Jarett Allen was a banger. Allen patrolled the paint on D and rocked the rim on O. He finished 23/18/1 with five blocks and just one turnover. He was 7-9 from the field and 11-14 from the line. He’s the first Cav ever to put up that line with only nine field goal attempts. He was blocking or altering a ton of Minnesota shots and they kept coming at him. All in all, the Cavs blocked 12 Minny shots with Javale (DNP, Sunday) also getting in on the action with three of his own. And the dunks. OMG the dunks were epic: a standing takeoff windmill that looked like a sky hook and just kept going, and an alley oop from Garland that was NBA-Jam-esque.
But… this is the kind of dominance the Cavs’ should have against a team trotting out the very forked Ed Davis, Naz Reid, and Jarred Vanderbilt: all who max out at about six-nine. Honestly, the Cavs should’ve won Sunday when Sexland combined for nine turnovers, and Monday’s shouldn’t have been that close. Fortunately, Garland played one of his most complete games as a Cav with a 19/3/11 only two turnovers line and solid defense throughout the night. I’m taking the commenters’ word for the D because I didn’t notice it. I spent a lot of the time watching Garland’s offense where he Nashed repeatledly, kicked the ball out, found shooters and cutters, and then closed the game with a ridiculous dream shake spinning finger roll, and a legit dream shake turnaround a few minutes later. The Cavs were at their best on offense when the ball was in Garland’s hands. He was rolling.
Collin Sexton, conversely, has had a rough couple of games. He had a “my turn” turnover when he didn’t give the ball up to Garland in crunch time that was really irritating. Sexton’s too often careening into the free throw line area from the high pick and roll and just shooting a give-up floater or pull-up. Too often the Cavs ball handlers are not pausing after engaging the pick to read the defense and just committing before the defense does.
What Sexton did Monday when he put up 26 as opposed to Sunday when he he put up 16 was get to the line. He was 10-11 from charity, and repeatedly put the onus on officials to make calls. He had zero free throw attempts Sunday and only one triple try. Monday he was 2-4 including a make that barely touched his fingers as he threw it up off a pass before the shot clock expired. Sexton should be shooting at least six threes a game at the rates he’s shooting. But as many noted Sunday, Cavs’ guards are refusing to shoot when teams go under the pick. The Cavs’ guards have to get better at letting it fly, and setting up their screens just a little higher. Also seems like Sexton is better when the p/r is tilted a little for him instead of straight on, though I’ve no data to back that up.
Isaac Okoro was steady as she goes defensively both nights, putting up 13/2/4 on Sunday for some much needed bonus offense, and only four points with three turnovers Monday, while leading the team with a +14 stint on the floor, mainly by aying stellar defense and delivering smart, timely passes. What Ice did Sunday offensively was not hesitate from three, where he was 1-3. Most of Okoro’s offensive problems Monday were due to turning down open threes and breaking the offense. As you could see throughout the game, even just shooting open threes provided offensive rebounds for the Cavs’ perimeter guys, and loosened up the D. They have to do it more.
Dylan Windler’s 13 minute, two turnover 0-fer (zero other stats) Sunday, led to a five minute stint Monday where he was better, but still innocuous. Lamar Stevens got a lot of his minutes Monday. Stevens was ok, but a team low -18 and part of a disastrous 11-0 run in the early fourth that gave Minnesota a one point lead.
That run came on the heels of yet another J.B. Bickerstaff failed challenge. Coach is starting to look like the Jack Del Rio of the NBA. He’s terrible about every part of the process: choosing bad times to challenge, challenging plays that he can’t win, challenging plays with minimal game impact, and using the challenging when it kills his team’s momentum. He’s abysmal at it.
Similarly, the Cavs still routinely fail to run competent out of bounds plays, especially from the baseline. This one was glaring as the Cavs nursed a seven point lead before a DeAngelo Russell triple cut it to four with 14 seconds left. On the ensuing inbounds, I screamed at the TV for J.B. to take one of his two timeouts to advance the ball to no avail. Taurean Prince passed it to Garland who was standing out of bounds in the left corner (still took a replay review to get the call right).
After, Beasley put back an Edwards triple, and J.B. mercifully called timeout. Jim Chones and I both yelled at the Cavs when Taurean Prince got the ball from the sideline out-of-bounds play to shoot the intentional fouls with 3.9 seconds left instead of Garland or Sexton. While an 82% free throw shooter, Prince had just split a pair of freebies a minute earlier, and was a woeful 2-10 from the field, and 3-16 over the last two. Crisis averted as Prince hit ’em both to seal the deal. The end of the game was a welcome sigh of relief.
Cleveland gave up 65 to Beasley, Edwards, and D-Lo Russel Sunday compared to just 41 Monday, so win there, too. Russell is the most meh 20-ppg 24-year-old former all-star I’ve ever seen. He floats through the night, but the Wolves have a solid set of young talent, and are poised for another rock star from the ’21 draft.
The Cavs’ still aren’t running any action on the weak side, which is comical. A simple weak-side pindown to spring a guy from the corner to the wing, and/or set up a weak side cut would do wonders. Still, at least we aren’t watching Drummond go one-on-four like we Did Sunday, and the kids look more engaged. Back to the grindstone against the Clippers tomorrow, a winnable game for the Cavs. Hopefully J.B. can outcoach NBA Champion Ty Lue after losing the battle to Ryan Saunders Saturday and tempting fate with bad timeout management, challenges, and too much Zone Monday, lets hope the Cavs bait Pbev and Co. into a lot of fouls continue the one game trend of baseline competence.
Live thread up
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1357114062505672705?s=20
Also, ESPN reporting that Love has resumed individual basketball activities. No date on his return yet.
yeah, probably still a couple of weeks away I’d imagine.
LNJ/ OUT TONIGHT —-DRE QUESTIONABLE
Dre in…the Cavs twitter account sounds excited by his return …
LMFAO
Any word on Load Management for the Clips?
No, but likely starters are Jackson, George, Leonard, Batum, Ibaka
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/back-on-the-map-collin-sexton-nba-cleveland-cavaliers-basketball
Houston has sneakily started killing bad teams. A 6-0 run against 5 sub .500 teams and a banged up POR with an average MOV of 15+.
They have guys playing with chips on their shoulders. They are pissed. Harden dissed them and dismissed them. Wall & Boogie have a ton of incentive to prove they can still play at a high level. Tucker & Gordon are proud vets. Wood is legit.
Brooklyn defense has been atrocious, I know that people have noticed this but outlets keep quoting them as ‘25th in defense’ and stuff. Since the Harden trade their Drtg is 119.5, which is more than a full point below SAC’s bottom of the barrel D. It is impressive that they can rack up wins with defense this bad, but it is probably even worse than that. 6 of those 10 games came against bottom 5 offenses, and 7/10 under .500 teams (with one .500 team) as of current records. Even their ‘these games are important, turn it up a bit’… Read more »
Oubre stinks. Even when he’s hitting more shots, he stinks.
Oubre just stinks. I’m sure GS is dreaming of trading that contract.
yup…. on the flip side, they’ve turned Wiggins into a legit player this year.
Wiggins is the same player he has always been, just running hot from 3 for 100 attempts. His shot blocking is up as are his fouls and everything else is in line with his career production. He was close to a neutral player in Minnesota, which is what he is.
he’s actually playing defense now…. makes a big difference!!!
also making 3s as opposed to not is another big difference lmfaoooooo
Goodness Nets putting on a show tonight>>> KYRIE OMFG
Finally watched it. Wooeee, his step-thru reverse with english with 4:40 to go was something else.
Also – how close did Green come to choking on that final field goal?
lmfaoooo they were just raining shots from everywhere!
lmfaooo yeah, but doesn’t matter when 3 out of the 4 best players on the court that night are on your team!
FVV 11/13 from 3???!!!
Had a Terrance Ross, Brandon Jennings, Mo Williams Corey Brewer type career night.
not sure if they ever played like a top 20 player like FVV is this year
True.
apparently Beverley’s out as of right now with no expectation to be back soon.
Hey thanks for the shoutout Nate! We need another point guard desperately (Delly get well soon)…. Sexton’s assist ratio while improved (15.1 vs. 12.4 last year), is still well below NBA average (17.8). Exum, when healthy, was that guy. Still love the Prince pickup, love how he adjusted his shot profile last night, just needs to be ready to shoot the 3 at all times. We also need Love and Nance back desperately… Love for his 3 pt shooting and defensive rebounding, and Nance for his passing, which is a sorely missed ingredient on the 2nd unit. Glad the kids… Read more »
I am not looking forward to this. Would like my bubble of positivity to stay unpopped just a little bit longer. But we’re about to blowup like the Hindenburg.
LMFAOOO i’ll only be pissed if I see Drummond on offense, otherwise I’m excited to see what the process is.
We are gonna be 10-19 after this stretch of games.
I think that may be one of the most realistic scenario. Though if teams rest guys, have injuries or covid, fall into a trap game or all three occur, we could sneak in a few wins or two.
We’re going to have so much trouble scoring over the next four unless teams are lackadaisical. Denver and Portland we might be alright scoring wise but get torched on the perimeter. Okc and SA might be winnable.
SA’s defense is pretty damn good, especially their 2nd unit with Poeltl.
Average D, their D with LMA out there is bad. Drummond should eat up LMA on the glass and in the post and demand a lot of help.
LMFAOOOO i figured it out, this is Drummond’s burner account… stop posting up!!!
I am not even getting to SA & OKC. Our next 8: LAC, MIL, MIL, at Suns, at Nuggets, at Blazers, at Clippers, at GSW.
I suppose they can beat the Suns, Nuggets, Blazers, and Warriors on good nights, but probably just as likely they lose them all.
Tomorrow’s game against LAC isn’t that bad, the Clippers are playing their 6th straight road game and since Jan 24th its been game/travel/game/travel/game+travel/game/travel/game/day off/game (tonight). Tonight’s game is against the Nets so they should be up for it but then its travel from NY to Cle and their 7th game in 11 days with 2 b2bs in that stretch and 5 travel days across California, Florida, New York and then Ohio, while the Cavs at least have a rest day at home today. The two Bucks games are rough, I expect 1-2 after those three games, and then the Blazers/Warriors… Read more »
Even tired I expect LAC to be mostly a guaranteed loss. Bucks are going to be the same in all likelihood. Unless either team rests people. I don’t expect good things against the nuggets. On a roll. We aren’t slowing down Jokic. Suns maybe you have a chance, but I expect CP3 to torch our young backcourt and they are very good defensively. Blazers duo is going to absolutely torch our backcourt as well, but we might score on them. Not likely enough to win since even without dre we suck in half court offense even against terrible defenses like… Read more »
Which Blazer’s Duo? McCollum and Nurkic are out for at least another month, it’s the Dame show right now.
The Clippers sitting one or both of Kawhi/PG13 on the back end of a road b2b is a good probability and Beverly is out at least tonight which makes him doubtful-questionable for tomorrow.
Ah didn’t know McCollum is out. Shows you how much I follow injury reports. Yeah that is gettable then.
Also Doc Rivers? Think you mean Tyronn Lue lol. That game is going to be a massacre I think.
Lmfao. How’d I get this wrong?
Fixed. thanks for the catch.
Oopps…made a dumb comment…erased for my dignity…accidentally said something wholely unrelated…
Yeah recap pretty much summed up my thoughts. Great we got a win, but not getting too hyped considering the offense. We put up 100 points against one of the worst ds in the league. Slightly better o rating (106.8 versus 105.3) than Sunday (which only tanked because of the 4th qtr) which is progress, but we have a long ways to go. Better shot profile with 22 treys, but obviously still a long ways to go in that as well. Been harping on it. The weak side offball stuff should be a priority. That is how you use Windler… Read more »
WILL BE INTERESTING NEXT GAME AS HOW JB DISTRIBUTES THE MINUTES BETWEEN DRE / ALLEN —-ALLEN HAS TO GET MORE —-DOES DRE GET THE ” QUICK ‘ YANK IF HE ‘DOMINATES –THERE ‘S NATE FAVORITE WORD AGAIN ” —THE BALL / OFFENSE ACTION / DOES NOT PLAY TO HIS SKILL SET —-IF HE DOES GET THE ‘QUICK YANK ” AND ALLEN GETS MORE MIN’S WHAT IS DRE’S ATTITIUDE GOING TO BE ……………STAY TUNED
” MORE 3’S PLEASE “–SOME SHIRT BUSINESS SHOULD CAPITALIZE ON THAT
Good cap, Nate. Sexton has been annoying lately, just forcing too much crap, although at least he was getting to the line last night. As NOMAD notes, it’s infuriating to see how many open looks the Cavs are giving up from the corner. During that Wolves run they gave up two wide open looks to Reid, and then a third, which they were very lucky he missed. What do they think is going to happen on those? The opponent is probably going to hit 40+%. Along the same lines, the Cavs *have* to get some actions that set up corner… Read more »
The Cavs are not going to fix this offense in season unless Love comes back at an all-star level. It is simply to much to ask that a team which was bottom 5 in O and D last year come in and fix both in a condensed season with no camp, while running through dozens of different lineups due to injuries and trades. For all the griping about Drummond’s usage when he missed a game the Cavs managed a 105 ortg against a team that gives up 114 per 100. Sexton and Garland are just not complete enough players to… Read more »
THANK YOU NATE —I MPOSTED LAST NIGHT -( MY BRIEF APPEARANCE )–THAT MAYBE TY LEFT HIS I.B. PLAYBOOK IN THE LOCKER ROOM/ POSSIBLY JB CAN LOCATE / USE / THE I.B PLAYS ARE DISASTROUS —-ALSO MENTIONED ON LIVE THREAD —WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR CORNER DEFENSE –BELIEVE WOLVES MADE AT LEAST 3 LAST NIGHT / OPTHER TEAMS PROBABLY HAVE SIMILAR SUCCESS — NO DOUBT DRE BEING ON THE FLOOR ( ALTHOUGH A HUGE PRESENCE )— DOES SUCK THE ENERGY / BALL MOVEMENT / JOY OUT OF THE CAVS PLAYERS —WHY IN THE HELL ( AT MY AGE ) AM I… Read more »
What is I. B.?
Inbound?
Thanks! Duh on my part.
Irritable bowel, duh. :)