Training Camp Open Thread (or, LFG!!!)
2024-10-05Good evening CtB!
We’ve finally made it, NBA Media Day and the opening of Cavs training camp at the IMG Academy have taken place. Some random thoughts as we’ve finally heard the first words from the Cavs org for the 2024-25 season…
1. The Vibes are Back
After watching the state sanctioned video (AKA the Cavs Youtube channel) of all of Coach Kenny Atkinson’s press conferences, as well as the press conferences of Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland, the good vibes are back. The tone was really set by Coach Atkinson, who’s passion, energy, and focus for basketball is apparent in every media interaction. He knows the game, he’s humble, and he’s extremely polished and professional.
One of the major overarching themes he harped upon was the fact that he came into a Cavs org that doesn’t need an organizational “overhaul.” To paraphrase him, he’s trying to “get 5% better, just tweaking and working on the margins, not trying to re-invent the wheel.” To this end, he claimed that 75% of the time spent in training camp was on defense. He said that the Cavs “can’t lose” their identity as a defense-first team. He also said there’s zero change regarding the overall defensive scheme, only tweaks on particular situations.
As for the offense, he’s steadily claimed that there’s no overhaul of the offense either, and he’s only interested in incremental improvements this early in the season. But some of the comments by DG and Evan Mobley belie Coach’s claims… there’s rumors of a lot more transition 3s, high post Mobley, and more off-ball DG. But the clear focus for Coach Atkinson appears to be offensive rebounding, and rebounding in general. He said that offensive rebounding is a key differentiator in playoff basketball, which is hard to disagree. We’ll see if he can get this group of some of the worst rebounders (looking at you Isaac Okoro, Darius Garland, Georges Niang, and Caris LeVert) in the NBA to find their inner Dennis Rodman.
Lastly, an interesting comment from Coach Atkinson was his claim that they started individual skill work portion of camp far earlier than he intended, because Donovan Mitchell brought the guys in early to Cleveland for voluntary workouts and the “road trip” setting of training camp at IMG Academy facilities in Bradenton, Florida lends itself for more time together as a team. The IMG training camp idea sprang from the Cavs France road trip last season, which is also according to Mitchell, the time he decided he was re-signing with Cleveland.
What was apparent from Mitchell’s presser was his sense of calm. He was as relaxed and focused as I’ve ever seen him. He said having the contract extension meant this was the first offseason in three years he hasn’t faced questions about his future. He also talked about tweaking his offseason regiment, to include more rest and recovery to be able to play longer into the playoffs. Probably the best part of Mitchell’s press conference was his public confidence in teammate Darius Garland, predicting a bounce back year for the doubted point guard:
Donovan Mitchell speaks about Darius Garland’s injury and the year he’ll have on the upcoming season.
“My biggest thing is ‘How do you respond.’ He’s been Mr. Cleveland, he’s been Mr. Cavalier since he’s been here.” pic.twitter.com/GAGm14Ijz4
— ¹⁰ (@HoodiGarland) September 30, 2024
This was the perfect response from Spida, and it just goes to show how locked in he is for the season.
As for DG, the fun and light-heartedness in his personality is shining through right now, with the same kind of calm and determination that Spida has. He said that because of his injuries last year, he was able to start his offseason program right after the season ended. He speaks about an understanding that he’s got to trust his shot and shoot more threes, and play more off ball in order to score more. As a lifelong Darius Garland fan, this is music to your truly’s ears. For as good a shooter he is, he’s never taken more than seven threes a game, and his highest season average of 3pt attempts per game resulted in his only All-Star game appearance. Coach Atkinson reportedly has told him the minimum number is “eight to nine” attempts per game, we shall see…
2. Jaylon Tyson Agenda >>>>>>>
There were scolds out here telling me that Tyson wasn’t a lock for the playoff rotation, but given how much universal hype surrounds this kid the scolds will all be in shambles come next spring as the Jaylon Tyson Agenda continues unimpeded and gaining in momentum. Why is yours truly so confident? Just watch the tape and listen to his peers and superiors talk about him. With Coach Atkinson, he raved about his maturity and unselfishness saying that he plays like a 24-25 year old veteran instead of 21 year old rookie. Atkinson also pointed out his offensive rebounding, something that Atkinson correlates with postseason success. Tyson’s teammates all echo the same sentiment about his professionalism and unselfishness. The Cavs gave nearly 500 playoff minutes this past spring to Dean Wade, Isaac Okoro, and Georges Niang, all of whom were completely unplayable on offense. The threshold is low and the opportunity is there for someone to step up… #staytuned
A statistical data point in Tyson’s favor is current talk of the Twin Cities Donte DiVincenzo. Tyson’s college production compares favorably to the former Villanova Wildcat. And while he wasn’t a rookie, a 23 year old NBA sophomore DiVincenzo was an excellent playoff rotation player for the Milwaukee Bucks in 2019-2020 and won a ring the next season with an even bigger playoff role. The tape clearly shows Tyson has even more playoff equity as a guy who can create off the dribble, we’ll see if he can capitalize on the opportunity over the course of the season.
"He's been phenomenal. I didn't know much about his game beforehand. But, I'm in a group chat and my friend told me, 'Yo. This is a guy you have to watch.'"#Cavs guard Donovan Mitchell on rookie Jaylon Tyson.
— Evan Dammarell (@AmNotEvan) October 4, 2024
#Cavs sharpshooter Max Strus says that he's been very impressed by Jaylon Tyson early into camp, especially with Tyson playing without the ball in his hands.
"Guys coming out of college don't usually do that. … It's refreshing."
— Evan Dammarell (@AmNotEvan) October 2, 2024
Kenny Atkinson on rookie Jaylon Tyson: “He’s been great in open gym. He’s one of those players who does everything well. He’s been really intriguing and played well on the first day of camp.” #Cavs
— Sam Amico (@AmicoHoops) October 1, 2024
3. Cavs action in 72 hours…
The Cavs will play their first preseason game on October 8th on the shores of Lake Erie against the Chicago Bulls, at long last basketball is back, GO CAVS!
LT up!
SPEEDY RECOVERY FOR EMONI 👍—— JUST EXCITED TO WATCH THE YOUNGSTERS PLAY/ NEW COACHING STYLE/ SYSTEM ———BEEN AWHILE SINCE I POSTED THIS—— “ GO CAVS “ 👍👍🏀🏀🍺🍺————-CAVS ALWAYS GIVE ME A REASON / EXCUSE FOR……….” MORE BEER 🍺 PLEASE “ 👍🍺🏀
close race!
all four mlb series are ties 1 – 1, apparently for the first time ever
the Browns are so bad they make Fox News tell the truth!
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/browns-the-worst-situation-pro-sports-ex-nfl-quarterback-says
Bates knee scope — out for a month: https://sports.yahoo.com/cleveland-cavs-forward-emoni-bates-225252925.html
CANT WAIT UNTIL CAVS PRESEASON GAME TOMORROW——— TOUGH GAME FOR THE GAURDS
same.
Guards game was a classic. Lots of runs avoided by great defensive plays, mostly by the Guards. Then the Tigers scoring in the least likely way — that’s the way it goes in baseball!
QUOTE OF THE DAY ( AFTER “ THE “ MRS NOMAD SAW THE LOWLIGHTS IF DE “ SHAME “ ATTEMPTING TO PASS) ———“ I CAN THROW THE FRIGGIN BALL BETTER THAN FRIGGIN HE CAN “ ——— SHE WAS A STAND OUT ATHLETE IN HS / COLLEGE…… 👍🍺
from the ringer.. The Winners and Losers of NFL Week 5.. guess who gets some special mention.. it’s a fun read, if you are into horror..
and then there is smokin’ joe flacco.. 33/44 with 359 yds, 3 TD and QRTG of 121 in a losing effort (37-34).. but, alas, the plan in the 216 was to go to the dance with the perv named da-shame..
Great write up Chris! Lets Go Cavs! Season cannot start soon enough with how disgusted i am with my Bengals
Thanks as always DanK!!! No kidding, Bengals wasting a Burrow MVP year cuz Lou and Zac are big f*cking frauds.
Add Duke Tobin to that list for the atrocity of a defense!
YAHOO SPORTS HAS A GOOD ARTICLE ON EMONI
AGREE RAOUL/ BUCKAROO —- RAOUL 1St POSTED IT ——- TRADE ANY PLAYER WITH VALUE—-BUILD FOR THE FUTURE “ WITHOUT WATSON “ ——I WILL REPEAT—— IT WOULD BE CRIMINAL TO PLAY CHUBB s ——FOR THIS SHIT TEAM / QB/ / OWNERSHIP AND RISK CAREER ENDING INJURY—-MYLES LOOKED TOTALLY FRUSTRATED AT THE END OF THE GAME—- WOULD NOT BLAME HIM AT ALL TO REQUEST/ DEMAND TO BE TRADED
NOMAD bro.. another shameful performance from da-shame, although, to be honest, most, if not all individuals associated with this turd of an “organization” should feel shame and embarrassment..
SO GLAD WE HAVE THE CAVS / GAURDS / BUCKEYES——ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE TOUGH FOR THEM TO WIN IN EUGENE
NOMAD bro. It is clear that the “dumpsters” are entering the terminal disease state of “girly man syndrome” characterized by full body muscle shrinkage and emasculation. They are becoming. “Femme Fatales” utterly incapable of participating in a male sport. As they give up and quit putting forth any effort, the ensuing collapse is going to be epic. Doesn’t” someone (at least a single individual incompetent loser) need to be terminated immediately ?
BUCKAROO “ THE PROPHET “ —- SMELLED “ SCHIET “ LONG BEFORE IT SURFACED ——— DIDN T WATCH GAME—— LOOKED AT BOX SCORE. ….. TOTAL SCHIET 💩
many smelled it 2 1/2 years ago
Another classic L from the CLE “dumpsters”. 1-4 heading to 1-5 next week. Can they win 4 games this year ? At least the gaslighting from the the “management” is enjoyable to watch as they slowly slip beneath the stagnant stench-filled waters into last place worst-in-league oblivion.
Great writeup CLF!
I am very, very invested in the team and I blame CtB’s quality writing and the comments community.
Ride or die, LET’S EFFING GOOOOO.
yo! on board with Simmo !!
LMFAOOO LETS GOO SIMMO!!!!!!!!
The joy with which Garland and Allen play is a real gift to us as fans.
right. and that is the pair that all the self appointed experts wanted the Cavs to give away!
Shit Joe Vardon is in the Athletic TODAY predicting a Garland or Allen mid season trade. SMFH
sports talkers have to come up with product, so they mostly make up stuff
Thanks for this, Chris. I watched all the videos you included from end-to-end, and it got me fired up for the season. During KA’s interview at training camp, I think it was Strus just breezily sinking shot after shot in the background. They’re all so good.
You’re welcome as always daspec90!!!! Always nice to legendary names pop up here!
fun fact, average good 3pt shooter in the NBA makes around 70-80% of practice 3s it’s crazy how good they are!
if you are interested in knowing what puts a smile on uncle buck’s mug, check out “104.7 MPH!! Aroldis Chapman BRINGS THE HEAT against Manny Machado!” on ytube.. makes me grin from ear to ear every time i watch it.. simply perfect.. i love dudes who can do the do, especially the older dudes close to the nursing home.. go ahead and watch it.. you will smile too
lane thomas 3 run dinger in the 1st inning of today’s guard win was pretty sweet as well..
I EXPECT TYSON TO EVENTUALLY “ HIT THE ROOKIE WALL “ BUT THINK COME PLAYOFF TIME HE WILL BE A VALUABLE ROLE PLAYER
I am looking forward to Tyson being in the rotation from game 1.
If he contributes in the playoffs the pick is a home run and certain bozos gotta put away the “Korby” jerseys
Agreed, good call coach!!!
WOW ALABAMA LOST TO VANDERBILT——- SABAN TO COME OUT OF RETIREMENT 🤪
not me. I won’t be watching.
Seriously, the only sane option at this point is to cut Watson, trade all assets, and tank for a year and a half. hopefully have some good young players for 2026.
GREAT DAY FOR SPORT FANS IN O- H-I -O 👍———— “ MORE BEER 🍺 PLEASE “ ——— “ FROWN-CLOWN- BROWNS “. WILL BRING US ALL DOWN TOMORROW 👎😡🗑🔥
Nice write up.High hopes for this year.
That’s right, ring or bust lets goooo!!!!
Man. Great piece, Chris!
Thank you kind sir!!! LFG!!!!!!!!!!
LANE IS “ NOT “ LAME 👍🥎
Remember when we were all bitching about Lane Thomas!
Yes. Great to see him contribute
everybody, as in one person
LFG! Get Olson outta there!
GO GAURDS —— GO BUCKEYES——HAVE “ DELETED “ MY “ FROWN- CLOWN- BROWNS “ FROM MY “ GO LIST “
GREAT JOB—— SO ENERGIZED——- WILL BE GREAT TO GET “ ALL THE CTB BROS —/ SWEETCHIE “ POSTING ON A REGULAR BASIS 👍🍺🏀👍🍺🏀
Bibee gets out of the first. Thank God.
Let’s go Guardians!
Go Cavs! Go Guards!
I will be reading this as soon as today’s game is over