Live Thread: Hornets @ Cavs
2025-01-05Good evening CtB!
The Cavs welcome the tanking Charlotte Hornets to the windy and frigid banks of the Cuyahoga River for a Sunday evening Eastern Conference trap game affair. The only question regarding this game is the Cavs’ approach, do they take of business in a professional manner (especially on defense?) or do they screw around and make it hard on themselves? Luckily, the Cavs’ approach has been nothing short of championship level this year… so Go Cavs!
Tip off is scheduled for 6:00PM Eastern time and will be broadcasted live on Fanduel Sports Network.
LeBron has become the heel. We used to laud his unselfishness. Just watched him sink his coach and team and made them all miserable while he made them watch him throw the game away. The team played way better when Davis was the primary cog. But then the offense changed. Should have retired last year.
right. so many great players expect to still get paid top dollar after they become good or mediocre. as a fringe rotation player for a couple $M, they could hang around for a couple more years.
LeBron, Butler, Beal, …, in the news right now.
BATES 18/ 9 — 2 / 7 FROM 3’s WE SHALL SEE ——— “ MORE THOR “ IS 85% FOUL SHOOTER —— 36.5 % 3PT SHOOTER——- 8 RPG ——— —- THIS WAS LAST DAY TO EXTEND LIMITED CONTRACT s —- TT’ s SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN EXTENDED—— JUST MY OPINION 🤪
DAMN —— WE HAVE A GAME TOMORROW NIGHT—- SAME TIME AS CAVS / OKC GAME——— COUNTING ON ALL YOU CTB BROS OF BRINGING HOME A “ W” ——- I WILL DO THE SAME COACHING OUR TEAM 👍🏀👍🏀
Sacrificing for the kids….well done.
JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE FOR POTENTIAL BACK UP POST——- DRUMMOND—— WE KNOW HE CAN REBOUND—-BUT IS PRETTY MUCH LIMITED IN OTHER AREAS—- BUY CHEAP???
motion offense probably requires a big who can move
Cavs who are top 20 in major categories: Mitchell: Pts 10th, Stl 12th, SPG 16th, FG 14th, FGA 8th, 3PTFG 3rd, 3PTFGA 5th, U% 19th, Pt/36 8th, Allen: Reb 7th, RPG 15th, WS 6th, OWS 7th, DES 12th, WS/48 6th, PER 17th, ORtg 1st, DRtg 13th, TrSh% 2nd, EFG% 3rd, FG% 3rd, 2PT% 4th, 2PFG 20th, ORbs 18th, DRbs 8th, Reb% 11th, DRb% 7th, R/36 15th, DReb/36 9th, DG: Ast 9th, APG 12tg, WS 13th, OWS 11th, DWS 19th, WS/48 14th, OBPM 14th, FT% 4th, 3PTFG 15th, Ast% 19th, Pt/36 19th, Ast/36 12th, Mobley: Blk 9th, BPG 12th, WS 12th,… Read more »
good stuff
Knicks about to lose to the depleted Magic.
the Magic is looking like a really solid team — still kicking butt after losing their two best players. I can see Cavs and Magic dominating the EC for a while.
It wasn’t really a solid win for them, it was just a January rock fight (no KAT for NY which makes the NY offense extremely bad and the overall squad super small with OG and Jericho Sims)
I like Orlando as a high floor high effort team that mucks up the game and is physical but the offense is putrid, although the Paolo bailouts help.
Their path to contention is a huge version of OKC but I don’t know if Paolo is on SGA level as a scorer and playmaker.
Bontemps: “Cavs are going to have to prove themselves in the playoffs”. This fuggin guy…
He’s right, can’t wait until we expose Boston in the ECF
Doesn’t everyone need to prove themselves in the playoffs? Roll with it.
In the Cavs’ case they’re young and haven’t done it in terms of ECF or Finals… so, they won’t get the benefit of the doubt as a Denver/BOS/GSW would currently.
But thankfully this is the exact scenario where Spida and Mobley thrive… and other guys seemed to be 1000% bought into their roles to play team ball.
OKC swept a Zion less (and gimpy BI) Pels team and dropped to Dallas in 6 despite being healthy.
No doubt a healthy Cavs team takes two off Boston last year.
Mild double standard but no worries
LAMELO REALLY SHOWED/ PROVED WHY HE IS LEADING IN GD ALL STAR VOTING AND DG IS SO FAR BEHIND LMAO 🤮——- KEEP PROVING THEM WRONG DG !!👍💪🏀
He’s a chucker and needs to wear clown make-up.
ha-ha
AND YES —— THE LACK OF REBOUNDING WILL KILL US —— MIGHT FIND THAT OUT WEDNESDAY—— “ HARD ROCK “ MIGHT GET 20 BD’s ———- BEEN ON MY TEAM ALL SEASON ABOUT REBOUNDING—— THEY GET 15–20 MIN’s REBOUNDING DRILLS DAILY!!!!! ——— “ GET A BODY ON A BODY——- FIND — HIT —- GET “ 👍🏀💪
shot creation / playmaking > shooting > rim protection > rim pressure > perimeter defense > rebounding, at least when it comes to what generally matters for winning at this level.
…best contested rebound teams per NBA.com are: Nuggets, Rockets, Knicks, Lakers, and Clippers. All good, none great, and we waxed the Nuggets and Lakers twice.
CLF —- GOOD/ VALID POINTS—-GUESS THE “ OL SCHOOL PERFECTIONIST “ IN ME DOESNT ALLOW FOR “ ANY ALIB’ s ——— GET THAT FROM “ THE “ MRS NOMAD ON MY “ ALIBI s FOR LOW PRODUCTIVITY ON HER HONEYDO LIST 🍺🤪🍺🤪
LMFAOOOO HEY TELL THE MRS. NEW SCHOOL COACHES LIKE KENNY ATKINSON ARE GETTING IT DONE!!!
IF YOU NEED A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FOR THE MRS. LET ME KNOW! #MOREBEERPLEASE
AGREE RAOUL ( GOOD COACHED ) TEAMS HANGING AROUND——- MAYBE IT IS THE “ COACH “ IN ME THAT ALLOWED THEM TO HANG AROUND—- GOT SLOPPY—- LAZY—- IN MY OPINION—— I AM A BELIEVER NOT TO LET BAD HABITS SURFACE REGARDLESS OF THE SCORE ——— “ AM OLD SCHOOL— KILLER INSTINCT—- “ STOMP ON THE HEAD —-NECK “ 💪💪💪💪
Totally disagree, first home game back from an extended road trip is tough. This was a game JB and previous teams would’ve shit the bed. Instead they won by double digits and it was largely low stress.
Stats show their defense was amazing and the starters killed it. LeVert, Strus, and Jerome couldn’t buy a bucket, only reason why we didn’t win by 20 or 30.
Biggest legit criticism is they consistent suck at defensive rebounding…. it’s going to get us killed against the wrong team.
Allen is top 10 in defensive rebounding %, but does not get much help. 7th in fact. Only guys better: Towns, Sabonis, Zubac, Valancunas, Davis, and Giannis.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2025_leaders.html
yeah the issue is the team is too reliant on Dean Wade for that 3rd big position, when he simply hasn’t stayed healthy. We’re screwed if he goes down.
The offensive tempo for the Cavs this year has always been high but last night seemed to me to be the fastest yet. Not sure if that was planned.
Strus is a pace demon and Charlotte likes to play that way too.
good point!
being able to max out the pace and still be efficient is a great weapon to have in the tool box. especially if you have the deeper bench.
EMONI STRUGGLED BIG TIME YESTERDAY. 3 PTS IN 33 MINUTES——- CAVS MIGHT HAVE A TOUGH DECISION WITH HIM THIS OFFSEASON——- STILL EARLY—— WE SHALL SEE
yup, he was a gamble. sometimes they work out, sometimes they don’t. hope he does. in the unlikely event that the Cavs make any trades, he should be worth something.
last year it looked like Emoni was the best chance for the Cavs to become a contender. with this years team, Emoni will be a nice addition if he works out, but not central to things.
WATCHING REPLAY—- VERY “ MINOR “ OPINION s —— LETTING HORNETS COME BACK/ HANG AROUND—— DID THE SAME WITH THE MAVS ——- NOT GIVING “ MORE THOR “ SOME EARLY MINUTES WITH THE STARTER s WHEN UP BY 20 + —-ESPECIALLY AGAINST HIS FORMER TEAM
any team with a good coach should be able to hang around and be a threat until part way thru the fourth quarter.
The Allen acquisition is one of the all time steals in NBA history. It still makes no sense that we snuck into that trade and basically picked the best fruit from the tree for almost nothing.
his “talent / pay” ratio might be the best in the NBA. yet tons of clueless “analysts” out there continue to “urge” the Cavs to trade him (plus more) for various over the hill chuckers. trades like Allen + most of the Cavs bench for Butler. Personally, I wouldn’t trade LaVert for Butler. Butler is obviously better, but vastly overpaid, over the hill while demanding another four years at the max, fights with his own team everywhere he has played, etc. I’m sure that Riley hopes to turn him into a jackpot, but I doubt if he finds a sucker… Read more »
I look at it like a karma thing for having lost Kyrie for nothing.
REPLAY TIME FOR ME ALSO SIMMO 👍🏀——-“ CLASH OF THE TITANS “ ON WEDNESDAY!!!
Yeah the game time doesn’t work for me over here, matinees too. Replay time. Just watched Ball flop….what a douche.
Great game. Sorry I didn’t catch up to u guys till the end.
I hate 6 pm Sunday games. Literally the worst time for a game.
Better/worse than 3:30pm Sunday starts? [Mavs Feb 2]
3:30 would be better. Or after 8.
This team can win games by 15-20 at a canter. Over and over and over vs poor teams.
Marquee matchup next time, though..No cantering vs OKC. They are tough and relentless.
But not t as deep as Cavs. If the bench brings the energy, the Cavs have an advantage.
Okoro will be missed, but Strus back a definite plus
Kenny said Ice was back to contact in practice….sure would be nice to be able to stick him on SGA.
guarded the hell out of the Hornets, too.
haven’t really seen full force Mitchell in about a month tbh.
Another crappy quarter close.
I’m behind – LeMelo is a clown!
You are up to speed
😂😂😂
ha-ha!
I gotta say I miss Merrill’s ridiculous Jesse Deister (wright state anyone?) style quick release threes
yeah, also miss his defense and ball movement too.
Man. I know the Hornbobs ain’t great, but man, how many times in the last few years could you say: Donovan has 2 pts at half time but we’re up 15 and on pace to score 125+?
Despite ending on a 0-8 run the last 2 min.
True, need to cap this season off with a ring baby!
Go Cavs!
DEAN WADE DIMES
How about JT in first half?
I think Strus is eating all the okoro/merrill minutes sadly
Both guys are hurt. And Okoro is a better defender, and Merrill a better shooter. So there is room for both in certain situations.
But Strus is the better overall player. He’ll get more minutes.
It is gonna be tough to play 11 guys. But over the course of the season, all 11 aren’t usually available.
I know they’re both out, I’m talking about why JT hasn’t played.
JAMES DEAN WADE
SORRY I CANT WATCH WITH YOU CLF —— WATCHING/ BREAKING DOWN FILM -VIDEO FOR OUR TUESDAYS GAME 👍🏀—— GO CAVS
GO GET EM COACH!
great defense to close the quarter let’s goo time for a Cavalanche
Hornets came to play, Cavs defense way too casual no physicality at all.
DARIUS GARLAND BEST SHOOTER IN THE NBA
JARRETT ALLEN BEST CENTER IN THE NBA, EARLIEST RAGE TIMEOUT OF THE YEAR????
MOBLEY BULLY BALL
LEADERSHIP BY SPIDA, MAKE WADE TOUCH THE BALL, RUN THE FIRST PLAY FOR A WADE SHOT
OKC — WOW —-/ CAVS 1st THING s 1st —— TAKE CARE OF HORNETS TONIGHT—THEN THUNDER ON WED !!! ——- POSTED YESTERDAY …. “ MORE THOR “ MiNUTES WITH THE STARTERS 👍🏀
Chance to gain another game on Boston. Charlotte games have consistently been th weirdest games for us going back like 3 years now. Let’s make this one a laugher I wanna see some CPJ and JT mins
Thank you OKC, …today. Go Cavs!