Recap: Pacers 87, Cavs 98
2012-02-15After losing five of their last seven, the Cavs defeated the Pacers in a game that wasn’t all that competitive.
–Kyrie Irving looked himself in his first game back from a concussion that sidelined him for a week and a half. He flashed a portion of his offensive arsenal in the opening quarter, scoring at the rim, on a pull-up bank shot, behind the arc, and in transition. What I liked most tonight from Irving is how he controlled the pace of the game when he was the lone point guard in the backcourt (when he was paired with Ramon Sessions, Sessions did Sessions things while Irving spotted up in the corner). There was a point in the first quarter when, in semi-transition, he spurted past a defender and forced the other one to foul him as he converted the lay-in. I think Chris Paul comparisons can wait until Irving enters his third or fourth year in the league, but if there’s a Paulian aspect to Irving’s game, it’s that he dictates to the defense the pace at which he’s going to play.
–Semih Erden! The Turk played the pick and roll game pretty competently tonight. Irving and Sessions slipped him a couple of nice passes in the first half that resulted in easy dunks and lay-ups. Roy Hibbert put up some points on him with that near-unblockable hook shot he’s developed, but it’s hard to fault Erden for that. One minor concern to take away from an otherwise impressive game: Erden has to finish stronger at the rim. A couple of times, he caught a pass with a chance to flush it, and he failed to throw the ball down, resulting in a trip to the line for a pair of free throws. You’re 7-foot, 240 pounts, Semih: make them tackle you if they want to prevent a dunk.
–Ryan Hollins checked into the game in the first quarter and immediately picked up an off-the-ball offensive foul just as Omri Casspi was about to take a wide open three. I hate him.
–I was going to make a joke about being positive that Antawn Jamison missed every single three he took no matter what the box score says, but the almighty box score is informing me that my joke is a fact. So instead, I’m going to submerge myself in the frigid waters of Lake Michigan and scream for a few minutes.
–I find it disconcerting how little I talk about Tristan Thompson in game recaps. I mean, I know he’s been banged up, but his impact on a lot of Cavs games this year has been negligible. I’m starting to have recurring nightmares about Jonas Valančiūnas (I insist upon proper diacritical marks!) dunking on Tristan Thompson, and then giving him the Hook ‘Em Horns sign as he trots back down the court.
–Omri Casspi is lucky I’m conserving all of my hate for the next time Ryan Hollins does something stupid. Because he has been a semi-secret disaster this season. He was 3-10 tonight, and a decent number of those misses were uncontested three-pointers.
–Boobie Gibson went down early in the game with what the announcers were calling a sprained ankle. (More news on that tomorrow, I would assume.) I think we’ve reached the point where we can finally slap Gibson with the dreaded “injury-prone” tag. Dude just can’t stay on the court.
–The Cavs won this game in the first half; they went into the break with an 18-point lead. Indiana looked flat (this was the second night of a back-to-back for the struggling Pacers), and the Cavs, due in part to their light schedule over the last week, were spry. The defense was solid, the ball moved quickly on the offensive end, and their effort on the boards was commendable.
The Cavaliers’ next game is at home against Miami on Friday. Until tomorrow, friends.
Casspi is no mystery. As I’ve posted before, he started less than half his games in Sac. You look good coming off the bench playing against tired starters or 2nd units. That’s the level of player he is. The only bright side is that JJ isn’t lighting it up in Sac.
I think we need to relax a bit in regards to worrying about TT. Apart from Kyrie & Rubio, few rookies have done ANYTHING this year. While TT is raw and isn’t setting the world on fire, remember that he is second among rookies in rebounding, only plays about 18 minutes a game, and has battled a couple nagging injuries. Anything the Cavs get from him this year is gravy. Give him a full offseason and preseason and see what we get.
@The NUPE “As much as everyone loves Andy, we still have to accept that if we have a ‘real’ C in Erden, it’s worth trading a 6th man in Andy for a potential starting wing and/or a good secondary player with a pick.” They might be able to get a starting wing in FA with all the cap space. Of course, they’ll probably have to overpay. But it might be worth it if they can keep Andy. Personally, I was hoping for Eric Gordon. His shooting next to Kyrie’s ability to drive would make a great combination. But now that… Read more »
Boy. 14%. He IS terrible from the corner –probably because he’s never had to camp out there in his life.
I was going to mention that I don’t think that Kyrie’s shot is that good from the corner spot up 3 where he ALWAYS is when Sessions is playing, and then I remembered Statscube: http://www.nba.com/statscube/player.html#Kyrie-Irving|202681;year=201112;season=r Kyrie is misused awfully in that spot. I know Byron is trying to save Kyrie’s legs/showcase Ramon in that set, and I digress…
It’s nice to see Kyrie comeback so strong from injury. I mainly like that he’s picking up his assist. Honestly, I’m not ready to say he’s clearly a better PG than sessions right now (who when given minutes as the sole pg puts up arguably better pt/ast/to numbuers with not as good a shooter). However, considering Kyries a rookie, I clearly think he is our PG of the future, but I’d really like to hold on to sessions if we can. I don’t want them on the court together, so we really need to draft a solid SG. More on… Read more »
I just checked Isiah’s stats. He shot 29% from deep. 45% overall… So I suppose I contradicted myself. Fail.
Kyrie may even be a better shooter than Billups. To even be compared to him as a shooter is high praise. As far as the Isiah Thomas comparison, I think too many people forgot how good Isiah was on defense. For years we watched NBA teams pick up intensity late in games but it was mostly on offense. Those Pistons lead by Isiah, took their defensive intensity up a couple of levels in the 4th quarter on a consistent basis.
How about Irving versus Byron Scott 1986-87 (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=irvinky01&y1=2012&p2=scottby01&y2=1987#per_game::none)
Rk Player Season Age G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Kyrie Irving 2011-12 19 24 24 30.1 6.9 13.9 .498 1.2 2.8 .426 3.2 3.8 .826 1.0 2.5 3.5 5.1 0.8 0.4 3.1 2.3 18.2
2 Byron Scott 1986-87 25 82 82 33.3 6.8 13.8 .489 0.8 1.8 .436 2.7 3.1 .892 0.8 2.7 3.5 3.4 1.5 0.2 1.8 2.0 17.0
@theo – I like Chauncey, but the perception of him as a great shooter is not supported by the evidence. He is a career .416 shooter, and .386 from deep. The latter is solid, the former is putrid. Kyrie is well ahead of his numbers at the age of 19. I still think Isiah might be the mold. Which would be amazing. He is one of the few PGs that has lead a team to a championship. He had natural PG instincts, but also the ability to dominate a close game by scoring at will. KI has shown flashes of… Read more »
Like Pete said, don’t worry about Hollins, Casspi, etc. They will be gone soon and we will have better players taking their place.
Right now we only have 4 players who are still on the team from the 2010 season (Andy, Boobie, Parker, and Jamison) and the last two probably won’t be back next year. Turnover on NBA rosters is really high amongst non-core players.
Gee’s shooting was off but I think he’s doing what Byron always wanted Eyenga to do: solid defense, passable offensive game, lots of effort, and a couple electrifying dunks.
I don’t know why people are so bothered by Hollins. I mean sure, he’s bad… but he’s 7′ and with Varejao out we have little in the way of big men.
Just remind yourselves…we have what, like 7 1st rounders in the next 3 years or so? Hollins will be replaced by one of those picks…just be patient. :)
Kyrie is so good.
Maybe its just me, but I chuckled at each of Janison’s no look shots. It`a easier to do when up by 20.
Forget the Chris Paul comparisons, Kyrie reminds me a lot of Chauncey Billups. He’s not as good of a shooter obviously, at least not yet, but he has the same eye for the game and clutch gene that Chauncey has. They’re both good, not insane, passers who finish well off the glass (Chauncey used to) and can be a top ten PG in the league on the right team. Hollinger made this comparison recently as well I think.
I hate Omri Casspi. He is one of my least favorite Cavs ever. He is so soft, and he turns the ball over in crucial moments. His shot has a hitch in it that will prevent it from ever being consistent. I just want him to go away and leave us alone.
Hollins is terrible. He has one good game out of five. We all know this. He’s not a 12th man. A 12th man is someone who can give you spot duty off an injury, or bring some energy if you need to mix it up. He also provides wisdom and locker room stability. Either that or 12th man is a project you hope to get better. Brian Cardinal is a 12th man. Christian Eyenga is a 12th man. Ryan Hollins should be playing in in Serbia. As for Casspi, he has to get better around the basket, and beyond the… Read more »
I’m sold on B Scott as the coach of the future for this team. If he can inspire Semi Hardon to play with that much intensity and confidence, he’s a guy that I want in my corner. Also, there may not be a better coach for a point guard in the league. Kyrie is a stud, and hopefully B Scott is his trusted mentor. (May they both stay in Cleveland.)
Tom Pestak,
Did you notice that Omri Casspi shot 43% from 3p range against Indiana. IMHO with that percentage there is hardly place for criticism concerning Omri’s 3-p shots. In my opinion Omri should take 6-7 shots from downtown every night. That would take his 3-p scoring to around 40%. He can’t feel comfortable with the shot when he makes only 2-3 attempts a night.
Moving screen Hollins comes into the game and kills at least 3 possessions with stupid offensive fouls. I can’t stand watching him play. He has to be one of the worst basketball players in the game. I’ll always fondly remember him getting all physical with the Heat when we beat them last year, but that only goes so far. Can we please bury him on the bench and play anyone else at center? I’d rather see Tristan and Samardo get the playing time.
Also, Irving is shooting 49-41-83. He could very conceivably join the elite 50-40-90 club some day.
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Maybe we should start comparing him to Mark Price?
Irving reminds me of Paul in many ways. He has that very soft, calm, (almost a set shot) 3 pointer that he hits regularly when guys go under screens, much like Paul. Tonight he showed some flashes of iso-D as well. He forced a sc violation when Collison had to shoot-pass from 20 feet cus Irving closed in his grill. I thought the Cavs played hard tonight. It was clear they had more energy, but the Pacers are still a good team and this was no gimmie last year. This year this game was a gimmie. I don’t really ever… Read more »
I’m a bit surprised that TT hasn’t been getting more play…he’s been mediocre, but Samardo should absolutely NEVER get minutes at his expense, and Casspi (who’s been statistically worse than Thompson) should also give up some minutes to him. Also, while it’s nice to have a center, if that center is Ryan Hollins, I’d rather have Tristan in and let the opposing center have a field day.