Recap: San Antonio 122, Cleveland 101 (Or, the time Kyrie channeled his inner Sasha)
2014-03-05Dion Waiters returned tonight, and Cleveland played a solid defensive first quarter. Then, the Spurs scored 109 points over the next 36 minutes, to slice and dice the Cavs into julienne silvers. When you play the Spurs, openings lead to reactions. The Spurs use those reactions against you and seem to instantly know the best way to exploit the tiniest mistake or overplay, and it doesn’t matter how many passes, cuts, or screens it takes to exploit that mistake. When you compound the precision of the SAS brand basketball-omatic with poor defensive discipline, weak rebounding, and ungenerous officials, victory can seem like an impossible task. It’s even harder when your franchise player plays looks clueless on defense.
First Quarter: The Cavs played the Spurs like you have to in order to beat them. Double nothing, live with the points that they score from post-ups, penetrations, and screen rolls. Don’t give up three pointers, and play good individual defense. Cleveland stayed disciplined and held San Antonio to 13 points, mostly on long two pointers. Spencer Hawes thrived off the developing pick-and-pop game with Kyrie Irving. Spencer for Hire is making himself lots of money with his stint in Cleveland.
Hawes can catch the ball at the top of the key or the wing, and has four or five options. He can shoot a three (he’s shooting 50 percent with Cleveland), he can swing the ball, he can drive to the bucket — which seems to flabbergast most defending centers, or he can drive to the high post and make brilliant passes to cutters. How many players in the league can do this at the center position, and still average close to ten boards and over a block a game? One?
Once Hawes gets on the same page with Kyrie in terms of when to roll instead of fade, their two man game might be near impossible to stop. In fact, miscommunication seemed to be the only thing stopping it tonight, as Irving had five turnovers, most coming on the two-man game with Spencer. If this small sample size is indicative, Spencer Hawes could be an all-star playing with Kyrie Irving.
The Cavs got more welcome news in the return of Dion Waiters who looked just fine, offensively. Dion attacked as soon as he came in, first setting up Hawes for a three, then attacking the rim for two quick layups in transition. Waiters has obviously been watching the videos of the Sleepy Floyd Game I sent him. Keep attacking before the defense is set, Dion. Kyrie closed out the quarter with a three, and the Cavs went to the bench satisfied with themselves, up 23-13.
Second Quarter: The Cavs started with a Delly, Dion, Irving lineup. After a pretty Irving layup (plus an uncalled foul) off a back-door feed from Delly, and then a Dion slam off a beautiful outlet pass from Delly, the Cavs got smoked by a 15-2 run in just under three minutes where Belinelli, Diaw, and Mills, scored most of the points. This was one of those maddening stretches where Mike Brown waits way too long to call a timeout, and the lead suddenly evaporates.
Kyrie Irving has improved as an on-the-ball defender this year, but his-off-the ball defense may have gotten worse. Patty Mills got a wide open three in the middle of this run on a play where Irving contracted to the elbow for no reason, got caught on a screen, and never recovered to Mills (there was no screen, only lousy defense). Kyrie watches the ball way too much and doesn’t watch his man. The Spurs exploited him all night. The Cavs’ three-guard lineups were positively Pavlovichian.
After a merciful official timeout (no Mike Brown didn’t call it), the Cavs traded baskets as Dion started to heat up and converted on two gorgeous drives and a three. But the Cavs defense got shredded by Mills and Leonard. Leonard posterized Cleveland in transition, but Mills, in particular was galling, because he hit two 19-footers off pick and rolls, and another three where Kyrie collapsed for no reason and lost his man (click for the video). Cleveland’s defensive discipline of the first quarter was completely absent, and the Cavs just looked clueless.
The Cavs offense stalled big time, and Jack and Irving mid-rangers seemed to be the only options. Meanwhile, Danny Green hit a three where Jack helped on a drive for no reason. A play or two later, Duncan threw a 60 foot laser outlet pass to Ginobili on the left wing. Before the ball was even 10 feet from reaching him him, I said, “Crap. That’s three points.” As if in slow motion, Manu caught the ball two feet behind the line, Kyrie ineffectually closed out, and Manu splashed a three. The half closed a minute and a half later with the Cavs down 40-50.
Third Quarter: It started out well enough, with the Irving and Hawes show quickly cutting the lead to five. And then Danny Green made Kyrie look incompetent for the first of many times in the second half, cutting to the basket, without Irving paying a whit of attention to him, and getting a ridiculously easy layup. Seriously, someone on the Cavs needs to coach Kyrie. If you have a hard time guarding your man, keep a hand on him while you watch the ball, just so you can know if the guy is within arm’s reach. There should be no point where you are at the elbow, and your man is at the rim. Irving got the points back immediately with a Pavlovic-esque “my defense is my offense” 20-footer, but it was a bad portent.
The game started to spiral when Kyrie gave up another groan inducing three, when he collapsed to the elbow, Green moved from the top of the key to the wing, and Kyrie got stuck on Tim Duncan as Danny splashed it. Is it MB’s system? Is Kyrie being told to collapse? Is it not reading the scouting report? Is it just horrific habits? I mean Danny Green is the guy who just broke the record for threes in a finals series. How do you lose him that easily? I cajoled MB to move Irving back onto the ball, because, at least, he seems more engaged there.
It really fell apart when TT got hammered on a no-call, Mike Brown got a tech, the Cavs got a make-up call on an offensive foul, and never capitalized. Parker eviscerated Jarret Jack for an and-1 off a spin move, and a Kawhi Leonard nailed corner three (Deng was the one who got sucked inside this time). Suddenly the lead was 14 for the Spurs. The Cavs stayed within striking distance after an Irving three, a Hawes assisted Deng layup, and a 20-footer by Spencer to keep deficit around nine. Despite Irving and Waiters heating up, on jumpers and drives, Cleveland’s inability to get stops doomed them.
First, the Spurs penetrated, and then Splitter set screen on Delly after he collapsed. ‘Dova couldn’t get back to the corner. (The Spurs may be the best in the league at sucking defenders in, then setting screens on them so they can’t get back to shooters). A possession later, Delly’s fellow Aussie, Mills hit a morale crushing step-back triple over Matt’s outstretched arms as the shot clock expired. After Dion got a no love from the refs on a drive where Splitter bumped him, Diaw hit another three from the same corner to close the quarter, depressingly, 85-68, Spurs.
Fourth Quarter: Danny Green canned the first six to put this one away, first with yet another “why is Irving leaving Green to chase a play 15 feet away!” three-pointer, and then with a transition and-1. Game over. Waiters hit a 19-footer, and Gum Drop Bear hit a nice finger roll, but this one was finished. The Spurs were content to trade baskets and further embarrass Kyrie by setting back-picks for Danny Green. At one point the lead was 27. Most of the starters played till five minutes or so left in classic, “I gotta get mine” fashion. Irving and Waiters hit jumpers, but meh.
Solace came in the form of 12 straight Gum Drop Bear garbage points: first a “whoa, he can elevate” dunk off a Delly dime, and then a buttery 18-footer with perfect arc. I considered changing Bennett’s moniker to Garbage Time Bear when he next drained two straight threes, giving Dellavadova his sixth and seventh assists. This made up for the moment earlier in the game where Bennett beat the defense with some nice footwork, and short-armed a right bank layup. Bennett closed it out with two free throw swishes for Cleveland, another welcome sign. In the future, maybe Anthony Bennett can do these things at points in the game that actually matter, and when the other team is trying.
Notes:
- Luol Deng finished with nine points on 3-10 from the floor. As bad as he was on offense, he was +1 for the game, because the Cavs’ three guard lineups were defensive sieves. Cleveland needed Luol’s defense, but his offense was painful. Is Luol the anti-Sasha?
- Irving and Waiters were hyper-effecient on offense, each finishing with 24 points. It doesn’t matter cause they couldn’t guard anyone. Dion Waiters and Kyrie Irving were -24 and -17 respectively. Irving, especially, looked uncoached on defense. Waiters wasn’t as bad, though his +/- was worse, it was mostly a victim of the arbitrary whims of garbage time. But yeah, stink city here.
- I’m convinced The Spurs offense is governed by the Heisenberg uncertainty principal. The basketball moves like an electron whirring around an atomic nucleus. Once a defender stops to measure where the ball is, it is already somewhere else. That being said, the defensive principals on how to beat them apply: everybody get your man, don’t over-help, and don’t give them open threes. I know. I said this already.
- Tristan Thompson finished 2-8 and routinely got his weak attempts at the basket swatted by Tim Duncan. He looked lost and the Cavs needed more activity, especially on the boards from him.
- Spencer Hawes, American Patriot, finished with 20 points and 13 boards. His shooting? An incomprehensible 7-9 from the floor and 3-4 from beyond the arc: ridiculously good, a ridiculous waste. The Spurs mitigated him and Thompson’s decent defense on Splitter and Duncan by moving Diaw to the five and playing small. Boris finished perfect from the floor for 16 points. Coaching win, Pop.
- Mike Brown coaches at his worst against Popovich, and Pop seems to relish destroying him. The three guard lineup got torched in the first half, and then it came back in the second to even worse results. Why Brown never took Kyrie out is beyond me. Was he watching the same game? The breakdowns on defense are either due his system, his players not executing his system, or Brown’s inability to adjust. The correct answer is probably “all of the above.”
AMEN UNDERDOG—-YOU ARE RIGHT ON AS USUAL——SHARE SAME TGOUGHTS ABOUT BROWN
Frankly, I don’t think Mike Brown can get away with saying that. When you win as much as Pop you can, In fact, it is interpreted as brilliance.
I realize this is a LATE COMMENT ON SPURS—– check last night (thurs ) score SPURS VS HEAT—-did pretty much to the HEAT as they did to the CAVS—–YES THEY ARE THAT GOOD—-loved the quote “POP ” had the other day—–” sometimes I tell them I have nothing for them—figure it out yourselves ” and leaves the huddle—-that is a coach that trusts his players and vice versa
Bennett is about to pass Ben Mclemore and Phil Presley in the rookie PER race!
I worked really hard on that snark…
Also, anyone notice that Hawes, upon catching a pass behind the arc, requires an inordinate amount of time / space to be willing to shoot? I’m not saying this is a bad thing but he passes up opportunities to shoot that most other players would take.
12 points in 3 minutes is pretty awesome even in garbage time. And AB did show decent versatility (3s, a dunk, made FTs). But he doesn’t yet have a back to the basket game or much ball handling ability, which limits his versatility. I was sad to see him put on SI’s all-tank team.
last 10 games in limited ( unfortunately ) time has avg close to 8 ppg / 4 rppg —-needs work on def—–but my / our thinking on him ( me and several nba scouts included ) has changed in the last couple of months–want to see what a full/ healthy off season with a trainer brings next year—
“The kid showed an offensive versatility that maybe no other player in the arena last night has.”
Methinks you need to look up the definitions of “objective” and “subjective.”
Prove me wrong. Given size and skill set. I conceded Leonard but not sure he can make that dunk. Seriously, what I said is far from hyperbolic. It’s pretty clear and objective. Give me a counter-argument rather than lazy snark…
Who’d have thunk that the CtB Comment Section Hyperbole of the Year Award, 2014 would be wrapped up in March? Congratulations, “the kid showed an offensive versatility that maybe no other player in the arena last night has” wins. Your award is as inevitable as Matthew McConaughey’s Emmy for True Detective.
@ Underdog. Spurs are just that GOOD! I have NBA pass and watch alot of games. This had to be the most perfect game I have seen all season from any team. WOW What an arsenal they have! You can see improvement in the Cavs even though they lost. Kyrie/Hawes/ Dion are really clicking. There is definite improvement with Zeller and Bennett as well. It’s a damn shame this upswing came so late in the season. If Brown can become more brilliant in his rotations and limit Jack; good things on the horizon.
What happened to defense? 122 points on your own turf is awfull , I mean I thought its a 50/50 game, meaning they have a chance, but they got schooled by a better coach. Go Cavs.
I know that the label doesn’t really apply to a team fighting for the 8th seed, but I consider the next 2 games to be “must-wins” for the Cavs. With the way Atlanta is freefalling, 2 straight wins could put us within 2 games of the playoffs. So wins against NY and Charlotte, plus maybe 2-3 wins for the rest of March and I think we will be fine. The schedule eases up in April so they just need to weather this particular storm. There’s no shame in losing to the Spurs (especially after that amazing 1st quarter) but if… Read more »
Kyrie was at his worst last night. I hope it had nothing to do with Dion being back, I really do. I hope that is just me being paranoid. I think AB has shown he can do things when “they actually matter.” We have seen it but not so much recently due to his loss of regular minutes. Instead of damning him with the faint praise that you did, I would say that what we saw last night was in keepin with what we HAVE seen for the last month or so. He just got minutes tonight. Not necessarily “garbage… Read more »
What type of player would Lebron be if he played (and bought in) for Popovich? Would he average a triple double?
So have we figured out whether we were that bad or San Antonio was that good, yet?
That seems to be the current debate . . . and I’d like to know the answer. “Both” would be a valid answer.
I completely agree, Nate. Yes, the Spurs are really, really, really good. As their opponent, though, you can’t just be in awe of them. You have to put them on their ass at some point. Not dirty, just resolute. Especially on your own court.
And yes, I love the inclusion of the NBA.com links. Keep those coming!
Rough loss, but not unexpected. Anyone else checking the NBA scoreboard incessantly for Detroit, Atlanta, and Charlotte scores? At least we are playing meaningful basketball in March. Haven’t said that in awhile.
james thank you–I was a little nervous too whan I saw the picture——I have coached high school ball for over 25 yrs—-although the cavs got beat last night —- watching the spurs play basketball the right way makes any coach feel good ( except for mike brown ). –basketball is a game of adjustments—-the best teams/ coaches are able to make those adjustments which is what the spurs did last night—-another BIG FACTOR in playing defense is COMMUNICATION/ TALKING (I ALWAYS TELL MY PLAYERS WHEN WE ARE TALKING OUR DEFENSE IS GOOD ) not sure if I see that on… Read more »
When I saw the picture, I definitely thought Sasha Pavlovic had been declared the 12th best Cav…
Nice analysis, Dutchboy! How fantastic is NBA.com now that we can link to individual plays? If you’re calling out the system and Kyrie’s (admittedly lax) execution of it, then I have to take issue with Brown. What changed between the first and second quarter? Why did the Cavs (especially Kyrie) start over-helping? Yes, the Spurs are good. Blah blah blah. I started recapping with the subtitle that the Spurs are a basketball perpetual motion generator, and then, the more I watched film, the more I thought, “Wow, that’s just some crappy defense.” At some point, if you’re getting waxed, and… Read more »
The Spurs play beautiful. It’s even better when you keep hearing “Shook Ones” in your head when watching them find the open man. I told my wife 30 seconds into the game that the Spurs would slice the Cavs up at some point. The contrast of where each team is at right now is staggering, so this was to not unexpected. But, giving up 122 points is just really, really bad. As bad as Kyrie was on D (he too often wanders and overplays on weak side D, not just tonight), I’m not sure if the examples in the recap… Read more »
You can just say “Pavslovian”. I really enjoyed reading Nate’s and Ben’s analysis. Spot on, fellas. I marvel at what The Spurs do. Tony Parker is a gifted player, but he certainly has his flaws. He’s a score-first point guard that doesn’t shoot particularly well from outside and yet he’s really the only star they’ve had for a while now. They plug these guys in and maximize their talents. Patty Mills? Boris Diaw is the best example though. They took a guy that had one foot out of the league and was a laughingstock and had him check LeBron (effectively)… Read more »
hopefully both players and coaches can learn from last night how to play and what it takes to win —-agree with a lot of blogs—-like to see A.B. get more minutes/ realize there is work to be done on defense / needs to play to get it done—–dion needs to start—-he has earned it/ regardless of his bench pts—–I like deng but I think he is playing himself out of a huge free agent contract—would I like to resign him / yes—but not at his agents asking price ( I don’t see any other team giving him 30 million either—–we… Read more »
Popovich taught Mike Brown how to coach, in theory he knows more or less everything that Brown knows. I don’t think that Popovich is stupid enough not to know a strategy to beat his own and then how to counter it. Brown isn’t there yet. His offense is as simple as they come, even though I did see a few new”ish” plays in the first quarter. What our offense needs to graduate to over the summer and into next season is adding misdirects making it look like you are setting something up that you aren’t, get the defense moving. It’s… Read more »
didn’t get a chance to see the game last night, but in his time how was AB’s defense even if it was garbage time? I’d really like so see him get more minutes, but he has gotten destroyed defensively as of late. On the bright side he has been shooting the ball at like 46% since the beginning of february. Also it’s nice to have Dion back, but how offensively was his play with Kyrie? I know they both put up impressive stat lines, but were they creating offense through each other at all?
Spurs are really a beautiful team to watch. I agree with all points made so far. Kyrie’s off ball defense is so bad, it looks like he is getting paid to leave his man wide open. Until he cleans that up, this team can go nowhere with him being the best player on the team.
Impressive insight from both Nate and Ben. I really appreciate how you broke it down intellectually. MANY THANKS!! FTS can be so annoying with all the sniping without understanding just raw anger. There was little the Cavs could do against the 3 point arsenal shooters and the smack down Godzilla defense they played against us. I would have like to seen a little more Delly because he plays defense better. Tristan was getting owned. I would liked to seen more Zeller/Hawes against their Big guys. And it’s getting harder by the game to like Deng so…. I’m so glad you… Read more »
Fantastic comment, Ben.
Nate! What an unsolicited attack on my boy, Pavs!!! C’mon, he was a defensive ace for like a month and half at the end of that 2007 season. We can’t overlook that magical month!!! Pavs actually was pretty good at checking big guards when he tried. His off-ball D was comically bad, but.. Oh, wait, that’s what you are talking about… I love the Spurs. They are basketball poetry. Their off-ball play on both ends of the floor is simply marvelous. At times, it seems as though they have a 2 dribble limit for their guys. Parker and Ginoboli can… Read more »