Recap: Cleveland 114, Minnesota 107 (it’s a win, mate)
2016-01-26On Australia Day at the Q the Cavaliers looked to ignite the offense by pushing the pace for easier buckets, and for the most part it worked. We saw a bevy of turnovers early, but the Cavs really looked sharp in the third quarter, and they held on to win late. LeBron and Matthew Dellavedova were exceptional, all the starters scored in double digits, and Mozgov looked energized on both sides of the ball. Tyronn Lue humbly accepted the game ball after his first win to successfully clear his first hurdle towards building a collective spirit in the locker room. Let’s all sing Kumbaya.
First Quarter
Cavs raced out to a seven point lead on a couple long twos by Irving and a triple by JR Swish. Karl-Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins kept the Wolves in it by attacking and leveraging KAT’s automatic mid-range jumper. The Cavs helped Minnesota out with turnovers and very careless defense. Despite Lue’s directives, the Cavs walked the ball up until Matthew Dellavedova checked in with five minutes left, and then the pace picked up. Delly capped the quarter with two triples in the last 47 seconds including a near buzzer beater off the dribble when Minny went under the screen that brought the crowd to their feet and put Cleveland up 32-29.
Second Quarter
We started out with an actual elbow jumper by KLove that was pure string music, followed by a LeBron post-up and dish to Iman who smashed the ball with great violence and terrible ferocity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vDF_HE8f08
Unfortunately, Kyrie’s first quarter makes gave him license to keep shooting mid-rangers, which he kept missing. The turnovers kept piling up for the Cavs too (10 in the half), and you could tell that the crisper pace was leading to some mental errors. Still, they were sins of effort and experimentation, and not sins of malaise. I can live with them. The Wolves kept shooting open long twos and kept making them until they’d clawed back to a tie at 34. Part of the Cavs’ problem was that no one was getting their hands up on D. Kyrie, Kevin, LeBron, and Moz were all guilty of “hand down, man down” defense. Kyrie had at least four shots drilled in his eye, as Zach LaVine was uncharacteristically sharp from distance.
Both teams went cold through the middle of the quarter, and the good guys dodged a lot of bullets. Kyrie dribbled around aimlessly a lot, and the Cavs’ offense didn’t pick up till Delly checked back in at the five minute mark. He sandwiched a floater in the lane between two Delly Dimes to LeBron for beautiful beautiful layups (highlights below). The ball started whipping around, but you could tell that Cleveland’s mental focus was on offense as Minnesota tied it back up at 51. Fortunately, the Cavs closed strong, outscoring the Wolves 8-4 in the last two minutes behind Shump and JR triples and a LeBron deuce to make it 59-55, Cavs.
Third Quarter
A nice two man game between the King and Kevin got Kev a floater in the lane, but Cleveland went away from him in the key and instead set him up for triples which clanked. Kyrie was firing away, and just made 1-4 early. Meanwhile, Pekovic, Wiggins, and Towns played bully ball around the basket, getting shots in close and collecting offensive rebounds until a Towns free throw gave them their first lead at 66-65.
Fortunately the Cavs had the Matty D who subbed for Irving. Dellavedova found TT on an improvised loaded wombat from the right baseline. Cleveland then ripped off a quick 8-2 run when Thompson then gathered a LeBron deflection and fired a beautiful outlet to James who reverse flushed at the other end. Delly hit LeBron for a top-of-the-key trey on the pick-and-pop, and Bron returned the favor two plays later finding Delly in transition for a triple of his own. But Minny hung around cause KAT couldn’t miss, and Wiggins hit a filthy turnaround in the post.
Seriously, it took LeBron seven years to perfect that shot, and he doesn’t shoot it now as well as Wiggins does in year two. Andrew looks like vintage Jordan or Kobe when he shoots it. There’s no wasted motion and the release is at the apex of his jump, but I’m not ****ing bitter.
My favorite stretch came when the Cavs put Delly on the floor with Kyrie, Shump, TT, and Mozgov. On paper, this is a “huh?” lineup, but the attention the guards garnered helped Tristan get two straight putbacks, and on defense the lineup caused havoc. A Delly steal led to one of the greatest plays of the season when he found a trailing Moz who caught a deflected oop with his left hand and flushed deftly. I woke my kids up with a galvanizing yell which shook the living room.
https://vine.co/v/iiXIjY1MuOh
Then, Kyrie swerved his way into a behind the back step-back three to stretch the lead to ten before he missed a buzzer beater, and TT missed the putback. 83-73, Cavs.
Fourth Quarter
This was good-bad-good. A 7-2 run was started by an LBJ fool’s gold 22-footer, followed by a nice Kyrie floater in transition, and then a Shump triple preceded by some gorgeous ball movement. But the Cavs let their guard down and slipped into bad habits after a T-Wolves timeout. Gorgui Dieng burned Cleveland by consistently cutting through the lane for layups and hitting his freebies when Cleveland fouled him. The Cavs found K-Love at the elbow for a nice J, and then lost him for the rest of the quarter.
Comfortable, Cleveland sleepwalked through a disastrous stretch: Kyrie missed a bunny, Mozzy traveled, Irving threw the ball away, and LeBron got the ball stolen when he tried to la-di-da dribble in the key between three people. This was countered by Bjelica three and a Towns dunk, both set up by Zach Lavine and the Cavs’ old nemisis: Kyrie Irving’s pick-and-roll defense. Lavine added two more transition layups, and suddenly it was 94-91.
Crunch Time
Thank God for Tristan Thompson. He owned the last five minutes. He notched nine points and showed great hands grabbing o-boards, dump-off passes, and a laser pass from Kevin Love. The Cavs scrapped on D, and really made some nice rotations to pick up a couple steals. A Delly trey put Cleveland back up 13 with 3:30 left, but Cleveland started making ridiculously bad decisions again. Towns, with his unstoppable mid-ranger, and Wiggins with, his fantastic footwork, made them pay.
J.R. Smith jacked up a baffling 18-foot brick early in the shot clock, and was only bailed out by a TT o-board. Then, with a eight point lead, he fired up a fading 24-footer with 12 seconds left on the clock. The Cavs missed three straight triples instead of attacking the basket, and the Wolves answered the misses with layups and turnaround shots in the post by Shabazz and Wiggins. (‘Drew showed LeBron the future with a 15-footer that was nasty). The lead was just four with a minute left. Thankfully, Kyrie got himself to the line on a drive and made them both.
Out of a timeout, Kyrie got smoked on the baseline by Zach LaVine and TT was forced to foul, leading me to question why the hell Ty Lue was playing ‘Rie over Iman Shumpert in a late defensive situation. Zach canned ’em both. Delly drove the left lane and hit a trailing LeBron with a gorgeous bounce pass for a layup with 19 seconds left. The Cavs’ six point lead looked secure, until LaVine drove easily, and Love inexplicably fouled him on the layup cutting the Cavs lead to just three. Fortunately, LeBron made the ensuing charity shots, LaVine bricked a three, and Delly sealed the deal with two more to make your final score 114-107.
Thoughts
After a slow first few minutes, the Cavs pushed the pace for two and a half quarters, and got into transition offense and into their sets quickly. When LeBron James posted up and the ball and his teammates moved, it was a beautiful thing to watch. He had some wicked feeds which led to nine assists, but he struggled with five turnovers too. He only took one really bad shot on the iso in the fourth quarter, and he was still 11-15 from the floor and 3-6 from outside the paint. Despite his regression late, I liked what I saw for most of the game. He suffered from the same gator arms everyone else did on defense, but the 25 points, nine assists, and four rebounds made up for it.
Key to LeBron’s night was his chemistry with Matthew Dellavedova. When James is at the power forward spot, Cleveland might be the only team in the league that runs a 4-1 pick-and-pop. Delly might be the best screening point guard in the league, and when LeBron comes hard of his screen, they are really hard to stop. Delly’s also gotten great at running the P/R with LeBron as the screener. With Thompson, Delly can deliver the lob, but LeBron can finish at so many more angles and delivery points. The Cavs were at their best with Delly on the floor tonight, as he was +16, 4-8 from three, with 18 points, seven dimes, four boards, and only two turnovers in just 25 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xckVkDllNek
Delly outplayed Kyrie Irving, but I thought the Cavs were at their best when both were on the floor together. Kyrie had some good moments, but really struggled containing Zach LaVine and running the offense. He seems really focused on mid range jumpers and dribbling right now, equaling his four assists with four turnovers. But he did rebound, adding nine boards to his 17 points (on 18 shots). He is still struggling laterally on defense and had some tragically bad passes too.
Fortunately, Tristan Thompson was around to clean up the trash for Cleveland all night. He had seven offensive rebounds and 19 points on 8-10 shooting. He also did a nice job with his defensive rotations in the second half. He did struggle at the free throw line, but the picked up pace might help Tristan excel in his garbage man role.
Kevin Love was 4-4 from inside the arc and 1-7 outside it. He also only grabbed six rebounds. Why he didn’t get the ball more at the elbow, I have no idea. Love had one shot at it in the fourth and didn’t seal and it got stolen, and he didn’t get another shot after. But to his credit he worked the ball, and made assists or hockey assists as an unselfish passer. Lue noted that they’re putting extra plays in for him to do this. It kind of makes no sense because they do it with Andy, so they should already have the plays…
Speaking of Andy, he was a DNP-CD again. Lue says he wants to run, but basically played an eight man rotation tonight (Mo Williams got five minutes). LeBron played 38 minutes Lue must avoid the temptation to play James extra minutes in close games and has got to learn to trust his bench. Richard Jefferson didn’t see the floor either. A commenter speculated that he and Lue were enemies in their playing days, and maybe that’s part of the dynamic now. If so, that’s dumb. If the Cavs are going to run, they’ll need the bodies.
The Timberwolves are going to be scary good in two years: Wiggins (21 points), KAT, LaVine (26 points), Shabazz (10 points)… This team starts Tayshaun Prince and lets him play 21 minutes a night. Imagine what they’ll be like when they replace him with a player who is still alive.
Speaking of Karl Anthony Towns. I think we’re talking future MVP candidate. He’s only averaged 20 points, 11 rebounds, 2.4 blocks, 2.6 assists, a steal, and 62%/75%/89% shooting splits over the last six games, and that’s in 31 minutes a night. His jumper might be the purest on a big man I’ve seen since Dirk. You can’t give him any space at all. Porzingis is very good. He’ll be great, even, but KAT will be a top ten NBA player by next year. Who says tanking doesn’t pay? He’s Flip’s gift to Minneapolis. Kat had 26 and 11 on 16 shots.
Timo had some nice minutes. Defended the paint, hit a couple monster dunks. Shumpert was nice too. Thought he should have gotten a lot more than 22 minutes when JR got 38 minutes (and went 3-14). They should be splitting time at worst.
After the game, Lue rambled again, and his strange comments didn’t match what we actually saw. I don’t understand how if guys are getting tired, you don’t play more guys, and not fewer. Plus he made some strange comment about running Kevin Love with the second unit and running slower offense with him at the elbows. That wasn’t the strange part, the strange part was noting that Kevin was slow, and didn’t run the floor that well. At least that’s what I took from it. But Kevin Love playing with the starters ignites the break because he’s such a good outlet passer. Kevin Love’s not a slow player either. As we saw against the Clippers, he can hustle and get up and down the floor. He’s at his best when he does. And again, didn’t the Cavs already have high post sets for Andy? Eventually, Lue’s “say whatever is on the top of my head, whether or not it makes sense” style is going to get him burned by the media.
Still, a win is a win, and on Australia night, I was ok with the Cavs experimenting and Delly playing fantastically. Many of us stuck around for the Warriors/Spurs game which saw the Dubs destroy the Spurs 120-90 (which, as Mallory noted, made Blatt’s firing seem all the more absurd). Many a commenter gave up on the season watching that game, but I’ll tell you what I told them. Any team can be beaten. But if you don’t believe you can win, you can’t win. There’s been a lot of negativity on this site in the last week, and life’s too short for a “woe is me” attitude all the time. I believe that the Cavs have all the ingredients to beat any team in the league, and I believe they’ll come out and play hard for Ty Lue and the fans every night. That’s enough to keep me happy. Let’s keep building that kind of belief.
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Time for work! Session 1 of 5 begins now. #StriveForGreatness #ItWouldNeverBeCauseIDidntPutInTheWork
Anyone that wants to criticize Blatt should watch this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbO_505V3Uo . (I believe Arch posted on a previous page).
This team has the ability to compete with anybody. They have the talent to compete with anybody. The issues were never X’s and O’s.
Great podcast with Scott Raab about Cavs/Blatt
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/to-z-podcast-andre-knott-zac/id917644285?mt=2#episodeGuid=da0df538ae6bd0b4a57ff714e8f3f0ef
GOING ALONG WITH MY R.J / ANDERSON NOT PLAYING ( POSSIBLE TRADE MATERIAL—DON’T WANT TO RISK INJURY ) ANOTHER REASON TO POSSIBLY TRADE THESE 2 IS WE WANT TO PLAY FAST / THESE 2 DON’T NECCESARILY FIT THAT ROLE ——LET ME ASK YOU THIS WOULD YOU DO R.J/ ANDY / 2ND ROUND PICK STRAIGHT UP FOR MARKIEF — HE FITS THE BILL AS FAR AS BEING YOUNG / ATHLETIC / RUN THE FLOOR AND THE WAY THEY WANT TO PLAY EVERY PLAYER ( WHO IS CAPABLE ) IS GOING TO GET MINUTES ——DON’T BE SURPRISED AFTER THE CAVS PLAY THE… Read more »
Salary wise I think an Andy-Markieff trade is already doable. But I really don’t want to give up Andy.
Andy for Markieff I’d do all day…kind of doubt they could get the trade, though…
It’s like Z for Antawn all over again eh?
Question is would Markieff really put us over the hump? Would his answers outweigh the questions on his attitude?
I didn’t saw every single Warriors game this year. But from the games that I saw.. 1. No ever attacked Steph during their offense consistently throughout the whole game. Like get him into foul trouble or play him with very high physicality. Rondo did it in glimpses and they almost won that game for Sacto if I remember it right. 2. No one ever made Draymond to be limited to just a scorer and eliminated other facets of his game. I really believe if you take Green’s other abilities like his passing rebounding and defense, GS won’t be as fluid… Read more »
We did point number 2 last year in the finals if you remember. Worked ok for awhile, and then Green got more aggressive and started torching us. But yes in principle it is a good strategy and preferred to the alternative.
Point number one is exactly how the cavs played them in the Finals with Delly. Would love to see KI learn that type of defensive effort, but I’m not holding my breath. Either Delly or Shump has to be on Steph at all times. Point 2 – that’s where LBJ has to really show up. He is one of the few players that can defend Green at a high level. TT can do it a little as well, but Green is big, strong, and deceptively quick. It takes someone like LBJ to truly shut him off. Love has not shown… Read more »
If against GS, Kyrie should always have Delly or Shump when he’s on the floor against Steph. So that he can attack him on offense and let the other guy guard Steph on defense. And not just in spurts. It should be the whole time they they match up against one another. I agree with you there. I’d go iso at times with Kyrie going through Steph. If they switch to let’s say he Curry guards the 2 or 3, then attack him there too. It’s not just about making him work on both ends. It’s about directly attacking him.… Read more »
I agree and Bron should guard Green and take away his point forward ability.
But the key against the Warriors is to not get beat of the dribble cause they move the ball so well that they will make the defense pay for every single breakdown.
Attacking Steph is tricky, but you are right that you have to try to do it. Generally, Klay takes the tougher cover and the Warriors are great at re-switching on D to correct mismatches. If you have Delly or Shump in, which you have to do, than that’s who Steph is on. Steph is good enough defensively to cover Delly or Shump. The problem is also that when Kyrie is on the floor, even if you have someone else on Steph, KI can get switched on the Curry. He’s so bad on the pick and roll that he lets Curry… Read more »
It’s easy. Stop Curry and you win.
It’s amazing the Cavs were able to do that with some success in the Finals with missing or unhealthy players.
True, but he kind of got loose the last three games. I think they were a little befuddled the first three games, but they figured out the Cavs after that.
He didn’t just get “loose”. But yeah they really adjusted. Once they did that it’s been 5-0 since. We are the ones who still haven’t.
I’ll keep the starters as it is. If Kyrie is producing through attacking Steph I’ll be fine with it. If they play pnr with whoever Kyrie is guarding then I’d pull Kyrie out then bring him back on key possessions again. Timely substitution is also key. Not just for rest but also for counter attacks. Damn we really have almost zero room for error against this team. Again if they pnr Steph and whoever Kyrie guards I’ll live with it as long as Steph doesn’t get anybody else involved or get going. He shoots so be it. We just have… Read more »
And I wouldn’t want Markieff solely as a Green Stopper. He’s a good player when he’s trying. He’s not even that great of a Green stopper, but he gives you an extra guy who can do it for 10 to 15 minutes so LBJ can rest.
That’s the thing. He wants a large role wherever he might end up. He puts himself above the team and been a known pouter when problem arises. He also has some off court issues. If we get him I’d welcome him of course. But I’d look to some others before him if I’m Griff.
Sometimes I feel like if Lebron took a bulldozer and ran it through the Christmas Story house on 11th street to build a Klutch office, people would still make excuses for him on here.
Well it was an old house and an eyesore. Lebron did the neighborhood a favor when he did that…..
Is the Christmas Story house an analogy for the Kyrie-Dion-TT-Zeller team that was there before he arrived?
What if he bulldozed the Free Stamp?
I’d cheer, actually.
Thanks for the great recap, Nate! Like cwzagger, I also had to listen to the game since my computer feed was all jacked up, so it was good to relive it. It certainly sounded like the offense looked a lot better, but the defense is still a work in progress… which seems like a strange thing to say about a Ty Lue coached team given his propensity for the defensive side of the ball… I expect a similar type of game against the Suns, where the Cavs are still trying to switch gears and find themselves in Lue’s schemes, but… Read more »
How about a “You cannot deny the wombat” T-shirt or a “Team Wombat” mug?
http://www.cafepress.ca/+wombat+gifts
But wait, there’s more! A “Combat Wombat” T-shirt and hat. And lots of other good stuff.
http://www.cafepress.ca/+wombat+gifts?page=2
After David Blatt firing, LeBron James ‘is now the most hated person in Israel’
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/01/26/after-david-blatt-firing-lebron-james-is-now-the-most-hated-person-in-israel/?tid=sm_tw
That’s saying something considering the history and culture of that insane country.
Great comment. (Not)
I’m kind of 50%-50% about the pace that Ty Lue wants. It’s a great pace to watch for us fans but by the numbers the slower pace has been better record wise for the Cavs. I think they should mix both. Play with the fast pace when needed. Play with the fast pace in the first quarter (to try to build a lead early) and in the 4th quarter (to close the game strong). About trading Kevin Love, if the right deal appears well just do it. Oh and after the first 4 meetings against the TWolves I have to… Read more »
ALSO BLAKE INJURED HIS HAND HITTING A CLIPPERS STAFF MEMBER —–THEY ARE DOING WELL WITHOUT HIM —-IS HE POSSIBLY ON THE TRADE MARKET —IF SO INTEREST BY THE CAVS/ WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET HIM ?
He’d be a good pick up. We have some staff members that should probably get knocked out.
Ha!
CtB is on a roll today.
Had @WindhorstESPN on for emergency Blatt pod, which turned into emergency Blake pod, which turned into Brian making a “Swingers” reference. — Zach Lowe
I hope he means the movie…
Well, sauces tell me that he leads many cuddle parties in Minnesota.
COULD IT BE THE “NO SHOWS ” OF R.J / ANDY ARE POSSIBLY TO KEEP THEM INJURY FREE FOR TRADE VALUE / POTENTIAL —JUST A THOUGHT
Wow never thought of that but you could be right. Let’s see if they don’t play for a third game in a row.
This is a good theory.
Another possibility is continuation of keeping small groups on the floor as they adapt the offense, and use games to get players in shape.
Another possibility is worry that running extra hard will lead to injury for the older guys.
Miami Heat part-owner Raanan Katz said LeBron had Blatt fired. In same breath: “He tried the same with Spo, but failed.” — David Pick
Cause partial Miami Heat owners are the bastion of honesty… smh…
It’s Raanan Katz and dogs in Cleveland and Israel.
Best pun of the year so far!
LOL… I had to read it a couple of times… slow today :|
If it is true, he should get a bonus. Anyone can see the team is much more engaged under Lue. Wait till they get a month or so to get used to the new system. By then, even Arch will wish it had happened sooner.
I don’t know how you can come to these reaching conclusions after a few days. But keep grinding I guess.
LeBron’s IG comments in Hebrew are hilarious, no filter. He’s the villain out here. — David Pick
Turkey vs Canada is going to be ??? loads talent, plus – Cedi Osman vs NBAers. — David Pick
New Story: Matthew Dellavedova, who grew most under David Blatt, speaks: ‘I’m always going to be grateful’ to him
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/01/cleveland_cavaliers_guard_matt_3.html#comments
Classy comments by Delly. I am sure JR feels the same way about what Blatt did for him too. Maybe he will say something too.
What I love about the Warriors is their attention to detail and the preparation before the game. Not just steph curry working on his shot, but other guys studying and improving their games too. I bet you that Green, Thompson, Barnes and even other guys have worked to get better during the offseason because Coach Kerr demanded it of them.
Tyronne Lue, take notes…
Kinda sounds like you’re the one doing a bit of drooling over the Warriors here…
Yeah, I though we weren’t supposed to focus on GS…..just the East. Didn’t take you long to go the dark side again !!!
Focus on the East, Cleveland and don’t get too caught up about drooling over the Warriors. The Bulls and Raptors, should be the real focus right now. If you can’t beat them, Warriors talk is all irrelevant.
I always hate this argument. The only people who need to think that way are the players and coaches in the organization. There’s no reason fans can’t talk about what they want, when they want. Besides, you just contradicted yourself by continuing the Warriors talk the next comment down.
Lue says KI and Love need to sacrifice more. What possibly can Love still sacrifice?
How about a change of pace?
WHY is Golden State so much better this year?
I think curry ascended to a whole other plane of bb existence, green is improved, thompson is more dangerous off the dribble, and a couple guys improved their 3 point shooting. Finally they have another year within the kerr system and have grown even more comfortable with it. They know exactly where they will be all the time on both offense and defense. Their sum is greater than their parts which are incredibly talented to begin with. I think their playoff tests against the cavs and grizz made them into an incredibly mentally tough and confident team. Confidence makes role… Read more »
They are trying to prove that last year was not a fluke by going out every night with the intention to convince people they’re the best team of all time. That’s what happened.
I blame the media.
Coaching and their work ethic off the court, in practice. Attention to detail. These guys just want it more than anyone else and are willing to put in the extra time to get it.
Curry ia having a career year, a young player (Green) has improved mightily, even guys like Ezeli have improved, and they are playing with as much confidence as any team, ever. And don’t forget, they were really, really freaking good last year as it was.
LaMarcus Aldridge disables Twitter account after blow out loss to Warriors ble.ac/1nlJBFZ
The Warriors are destroying everything including Twitter.
I’m kind of with Tom that I think at this point the Dubs are an unsolved puzzle, with no clues as to how to beat them. And I don’t think that last years playoffs are much of a clue. And I agree that the national media is kind of ignoring this fact, because as a story it doesn’t go anywhere. Ah well, we don’t have to play them again until the finals. I am optimistic that KLove can play on an up-tempo team. He played with Westbrook at UCLA after all dragging around 25 more pounds. We’ll see. Lue really… Read more »
It seems like the media is being MUCH easier on him than they were on Blatt.
In fairness, he’s come out MUCH less defensive than Blatt and has been pretty open saying what really seems to be on his mind. The guy definitely has more charisma.
Most of the media didn’t seem to like or appreciate Blatt’s demeanor…
You can see why Lue is the guy to keep LeBron and KI in line; he has no subtlety and speaks the truth. That makes him kind of poor when facing the press, where the vast majority of coaches say little or nothing. I have always admired people who say what needs to be said and don’t worry about what anyone thinks. You can bet LeBron has not met many of them before.
The day the Warriors win the WCF and the Cavs win the ECF is the day we should worry about how to play GSW.
I like the improvements I saw last night but it’s probably a little soon to hope they’ll be totally dialed in for the Spurs game. Hopefully Lue gets them committed to his brand of ball through thick and thin because at this point, that’s what the Cavs have this year.
It would be unCleveland-like if we were favorites in anything. I prefer being the underdog, personally.
Good recap. Lue has a lot of growing to do in the next 40 games. I don’t know if he can learn enough in time. Great point about overplaying LBJ. It will all be for naught if he’s breaking down come May. I don’t get how Mo gives you anything that RJ doesn’t, and RJ is a better defender. I also don’t get the no Andy if you are intent on extending the rotation. He’s good for 5 to 10 minutes a night, which is especially important if you are trying to run at a faster pace. I worry about… Read more »
We will miss him trying to call time outs we don’t have.
Don’t forget that the team doesn’t have a whole lot of practice time all week and hasn’t since the firing, so we’re are pretty much adjusting on the fly. Lue indicated that these games are partially being used to get guys into shape, We’ll get there.
Maybe, Tom, you feel like getting Cols listen to your point of view is your version of “beating the Warriors.” In that case, never give up.
Cripes, Tom. Why hold a playoff at all? The only way to win is to play one game at a time and focus at the task at hand. Cavs can deal with the Dubs if and when the time comes. There’s no point in letting it drive you crazy now.
Yeah, I agree with Nate, what I saw last night was depressing, but we can’t worry about that team now. We can only focus on the cavs. We are not in the same situation as that team with this coaching change, so we can only judge the cavs against the cavs. If we see progress then we are doing ok. Worry about them wewe face them. Even Draympnd said the same, if teams are worrying about other teams instead of focusing on their own play, they got problems.
Did I dream last season or did it actually happen? Was not the prevailing thought around this place last year that the Cavs were dooooomed and the Hawks were going to beat them (or the Bulls) in the playoffs.
Come on people. It wasn’t that long ago. Do not forget lessons you just learned.
I think the thought was that the Bulls and Hawks would be tougher than necessary if we didn’t clean up certain areas of play last season, not that we were doomed. This years’ Warriors and Spurs teams are in a totally different ballpark. I’d never say we’re doomed but taking them down is certainly a scary proposition.
Is the counter to that: why hold the regular season at all?
Because no one wants to take the Warriors seriously.
So I see a certain number of posters have gone from Panic! at the Blog, to Defeatist! at the Blog. (It doesn’t have the same ring to it, I know, I’m working on it).
Stop with this garbage. Yes, the Warriors are playing at a very high level, no that does not mean they will win it all, or even get tot he Finals. They are in playoff mode now, which does them no good except it gets supposedly smart people slobbering all over them.
They are in playoff mode now?
Let’s say this made up nonsense is actually true. The implication is that they can’t play any better but other teams will raise their game
Not to this level.
These games against the Spurs and Cavs weren’t close.
You’re giving Saddam’s Propaganda Minister a run for his money.
Did Saddam even have a propaganda minister? I’m not sure.
Anyways, I think you are letting recency bias get the best of your here. Last time we saw the Warriors in the playoffs they were down 2-1 against a severely flawed Memphis team, then down 2-1 against LeBron James and a bunch of guys.
Yes, Saddam’s Propagana Minister was saying they would defeat the infidels as our military was on the doorstep of Baghdad. It’s probably futile using logic to have a discussion with you Cols, but you simply fail to accept how much better GS is this year as opposed to last year. And the Cavs have yet to reach the level of dominance they had in the Finals run. Maybe they will. You do sound as illogical as Saddam’s Propoganda Minister. Last night you said how much better the Cavs looked against the Wolves when they almost blew a 15 pt lead… Read more »
This is for you, Cols:
http://memegenerator.net/instance2/4004128
http://memegenerator.net/instance2/4005106
Phil Hubbard, I like this a lot. Yep, the Dubs will run out of gas right when the Finals start hopefully against the Cavs.
I mean I really don’t think they could play much better than they are now, they clearly are trying to prove something to the NBA.
That said, they still look so good it might not matter. It IS pretty ridiculous.
No one’s gonna beat them in a shootout but I still think we have the blueprint on how to beat them. Eventually someone’s going to crack the code to smallball and we definitely have the horses to do so.
What is playoff mode? Playing a ton of minutes? Exerting a ton of energy? The Warriors aren’t doing either. BTW I think the Cavs win the championship, but it’s going to take some special ball.
Question from Twitter: Would the Cavs trade Love for Griffin knowing that he’ll miss time but probably be back for playoffs.
I’d say yes, because the Cavs aren’t beating the Warriors in the finals anyways.
Windhorst: The conversations that the Cavs have been involved in have involved Timo Mozgov. When they’ve had any discussions about trades it has involved Timo because they do not think they can afford him next season.
Nice recap. I was only able to listen to the game on radio so it’s great to have a detailed breakdown to read on how the game looked. On the slow Kevin Love comment, I don’t read into it. All Lue’s saying is that with Love’s preferred spot being at the elbow and his top speed not being all that high, it’ll be harder for him to be utilized in the faster offense AS ENVISIONED. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a place in the up-tempo style with his great outlet passes, but Lue talked about Love running the 2nd… Read more »
Actually Kyrie came back after the sub, and sucked.
He was probably tired that late in a fast paced game.
Windhorst: What is happening with the Cavs historically is fascinating. The idea that the Cavs could seize control of the of the nations sports audience 2 days before NFL playoffs; The idea that this (Blatt) move pushed out “middle east violence” updates out of the leads in Israel, and that the country would declare ideological war on the Cavs franchise is incredible. It’s why we at ESPN devote so many resources to covering Cleveland stories.
I mean they put up 120 on one of the best defensive teams (statistically) of all time.
The league has no recourse right now. And since they’ve done away with dirty goon flagrants – no one is stopping that team. Short of Curry’s femur splitting in two, they won’t lose more than 1 game in any playoff series.
Until they face the Cavs.
Yes, that will be a sweep, and the Warriors win two of the games by more than 20. Mark it down.
I have wondered many times this year: we know that the Spurs unleash Tim Duncan in April and have another level they could be playing at, but do these Warriors have an extra gear that they can dial up to in the playoffs?
And does it really matter?
Extra gear? Curry is scoring 40 points in 3 quarters. He’s making shots like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BRpfyb4tXk#t=2m52s Against one of the best defensives (statistically) ever. They don’t need an extra gear. I’ve only seen a team exhibit this level of offensive dominance over more than a game once in my lifetime: the 7 second or less suns. And that team couldn’t defend anyone. The Warriors are like raging pirahhnas on defense. They clean up the glass as well as anyone. Now Shaun Livingston is going crazy and Harrison Barnes is back. Draymond Green looks like Charles Barkley went to Magic Johnson… Read more »
Every point is absolutely true. I have always been one of the biggest homers for the Cavs, but at best they would win one game. GS has improved so much over last year. It’s true that Curry could deserve – but won’t get – both the most improved and MVP award. I can’t see the Cavs getting anywhere near their level of efficiency on offense and defense. And I hope I am wrong.
They do not. This is the Warriors playing in playoff gear in the regular season. Remember the Heat that won 27 in a row? That team looked unstoppable then too, but they almost lost to the Spurs in the Finals.
People need to stop acting like the Warriors are unbeatable. IT”S DRIVING ME NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!
SERENDITY NOW
HOOCHIE MAMA! HOOCHIE MAMA!!!!!!
But…you’re wrong. And it’s completely shocking to me how everyone is in denial about the Warriors. They have been since day 1. They’re lucky. They don’t have injury problems. Big shrugs about “well, when Andre Iguodala is making 3s, whatcha gonna do?” like what they do isn’t sustainable. I’ve watched them enough to know – they aren’t beating teams – THEY ARE SALTING THE EARTH. They could start a land war in asia and sit their starters in the 4th quarter. I get that it’s a defense mechanism but what will it take to have appropriate fear of the Warriors?… Read more »
They won’t. We saw what happened in the playoffs. Stop acting like regular season and playoff basketball is the same. It isn’t and hasn’t been for decades.
I mean, you just witnessed this last year. How can you forget the lessons of 2014-2015 so easily?
THESE PRETZELS ARE MAKING ME THIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because the Warriors were a historically good team last year and were never seriously challenged in any series.
This year’s team is SIGNIFICANTLY better than that team.
I mean – we’re midway through the season. How much evidence do you need that this team is head and shoulders above the rest of the NBA?
What happened last year? No one seriously challenged them. After Cavs went up 2-1 they went to the small ball lineup of death and the Cavs have since lost five straight times to them.
The Cavs are a very good team and, perhaps, could become a great one. The Warriors are historically great.
The Warriors are better this year, and much more confident. And it’s not like the Cavs almost beat them in the finals…they won two games, and the Warriors won the last three by an average of 14 points. That was the ‘deer in the headlights, first time in the finals Warriors’. This team is far ahead of that one. It’s hilarious to see you and others constantly downplay them. Guess they needed to beat the Cavs AT THE Q by 90….even that wouldn’t do it, I know. Even if they happen to play in the finals, and the Warriors sweep… Read more »
If a land war in asia won’t work, then we need to trick the Warriors into a battle of wits with a Sicilian when death is on the line…
Windhorst: The Cavs and Spurs are intimidated by the Warriors.
The Warriors are the best team I have ever seen and it’s not really close.
And I watched a lot of the 72-win bulls.
It’s hard to disagree. But we are also in the moment of watching the Warriors. The Bulls were so long ago. I’d still probably take the Bulls, during the 90’s rules.
That’s nuts. That Bulls team would kick the crap out of this Warriors team. They had the GOAT in Jordan. Don’t forget.
Cols – I’m just telling you.
Michael Jordan was the GOAT – you are correct.
If that 72 win Bulls team had played the Warriors last night, they’d have lost by double digits. Easily.
Nope. Rodman, Pippen, and Jordan would stifle that team. Then Jordan would hang 60 on them just for kicks. That Bulls team is still the best ever.
I don’t think so. Those Bulls would be lucky to play these W’s even.
If those Bulls played the Warriors right now, with the current NBA rules, the Bulls get smoked. This is the 3 era, and nobody does it in the same galaxy as the Warriors.
Arguing about this is fun, but tough. The way teams play depends on the rules of the game. The Bulls played how they did to maximize their effectiveness in the 90s game. The Warriors play how they’re playing to take advantage of the 3 and the different rules on defense. If Jordan, Pippen, Rodman and the rest were in their primes right now, that team wouldn’t play the same way they did 20 years ago.
Windhorst: Nobody through that Portland game more than LeBron.
EDIT: Nobody THREW that Portland game more than LeBron
Pretty obvious the way he was walking around the court, not GAS for a second of the game. Sterling leadership.
According to Windhorst, the fastest paced team LeBron played on was on his rookie year in Cleveland. He also said that Pat Riley didn’t keep LeBron in check in Miami, Dwayne Wade kept LeBron in check, by leading by example.
I’m starting to think that we might *need* a Kyrie-for-Chris Paul trade to keep competing for a championship. I wouldn’t feel too good about it, though….
I’m not sure it will matter with the way the Warriors are playing.
Windhorst: The #Cavs just need to move better. It doesn’t mean sprint up and down the court, just move more on offense.
Windhorst: I don’t know how anyone can beat the Warriors, 4 games out of 7, right now, but the #Cavs are trying to find a way.
Windhorst: I don’t know if the #Cavs are better off, we just haven’t seen enough yet. I give them credit for making a tough move.
Windhorst: It sounds crazy to say but, the #Cavs should have let Blatt go the day Lebron signed. It was never a fit.
Windhorst: Part of this does fall on Lebron for not being more open to working with Blatt but he was going to get fired eventually. #Cavs
Blake Griffin has a possible broken hand after getting into an argument with equipment.
Griffin is a true POS. He’s always doing low class crap like this, it usually doesn’t get reported. Clippers are a wreck.
I would like some of the Delly coffe blend.
You have to be in good shape to drink it. The coffee beans are also part-digested, eaten, and defecated by the Asian palm civet (which looks like a cat). Unable to digest the coffee beans, the Luwak graciously deposits them on the jungle floor where they are eagerly collected by the locals.
The stomach acids and enzymatic action involved in this unique fermentation process produces the beans for the world’s rarest coffee beverage.
http://ravensbrew.com/NewFiles/kopiluwak.html
Repackaged and renamed the “Caffeinated Wombat”, or actually, maybe the “Loaded Wombat”
Or “Dirty Wombat Blend”
I’ve actually had it. It’s too strong for me.
I am a coffee aficionado and I generally like strong coffee, but…or should I say, butt…
It’s way too expensive to purchase in the States. You can it for a reasonable price in Indonesia.
And you’ve gotta drink it in this…
That 3rd quarter run was set by the Cavs defensive intensity. They did a great job of rotating and closing out on shooters. Those turnovers and missed shots led to the offensive run.
We’ll need Kyrie for playoffs, but he’s playing like Allen Iverson right now. Straight butch, and he won’t throw LeBron that quick post pass. You can see his legs aren’t there yet. He doesn’t have the lift to finish his many blown layups this season.
Sorry, but Kyrie has never had a season yet as good as Allen Iverson. Iverson single handedly dragged his team to the Finals. Irving was unable to even get the Cavs out of the lottery.
For once cols and I agree. They stole a game from the Lakers.
Yep, agree with Cols!
My apologies, I didn’t mean to compare Ky to AI. I was putting more notice to Ky playing more like a shooting guard instead of a point guard. He’s not looking to set anybody up.
Yeah that is true most of the time
One of the very rare times I agree. I never liked Iverson’s game, but he was streets ahead of Kyrie.
Streets Ahead! I’ll tell Pierce it’s catching on!
Lue really seems more in tune with the players than Blatt ever was. The notion of not celebrating your first NBA win because you won overseas is nutty and had to rub the players wrong from the beginning.
Well if the players are going to get all bent out of shape over that, then they are more fragile then I expected.
Whatever. Keep blaming the players. Griffin seems to have made a great decision.
Haha… Keep blaming Blatt It’s all his fault.
Give it up Arch. Anyone can see the team is better now.
I’m confused how you came to this conclusion?
Are you trolling? It’s possible the team will be as good or better. But it’s not now. Earlier in the season we beat the Wolves by 28.
Sorry guys. The old system had clearly plateaued and was going down. The new system is only two games old and will be a major improvement.
Lol….yeah, sure they are. I see no difference whatsoever…not sure why there would be any difference after three freaking days.
Raoul, if that’s the case then how can you say the team is much better now. Kind of contradictory right?
I’m pretty confused how you can see that after a bad Chicago loss and a marginal win over one of the worst teams in the League. I’m not saying the team was SURELY better with Blatt, but saying that this team is OBVIOUSLY better after less than a week is pretty laughable.
Totally agree Cols. Look at his comments about Love and Kyrie needing to worry less about their “brand” and to defer to LeBron. He brings up the same thing happening with Dwyane Wade realizing he had to defer to Bron in Miami to win. Lue just gets what these superstar egos are going through so much better than Blarr.
Since you guys keep talking about the modern athlete, you do realize pretty much all the modern athlete cares about is their brand. Especially the superstar max player athlete. Sure they care about winning too but in as so much as it helps their brand because championships = more money via branding. Telling the modern athlete to stop worrying about their brand and continuing to harp on it isn’t going to end well. Can you imagine if Blatt instead of saying he’s not a rookie coach came out and said these guys worry too much about their brand. All you… Read more »
You can’t make that ridiculous generalization about athletes. Cummon. The NBA is littered with superstars known for making sacrifice to win, aka Curry, Duncan, Wade (highlighted above), Bosh, LEBRON, etc… All these guys have sacrificed either pay or stats in order to be part of a champion team. In fact, we are literally witnessing the rise of a “team ball” era in the NBA where the superstar holds less weight than he once did (at least that’s the narrative we’re being fed). I wouldn’t know how to react to Blatt commenting on “brand” because he didn’t, and that would be… Read more »
Not sure what Lue means by deferring to LeBron, but I don’t think that’s the answer if it means having LeBron control even more of the offense.
I’m usually all sunshine and rainbows with the Cavs, even last year when they were sub .500. Can’t shake the feeling however that the Warriors really screwed with their heads. OK and understandable to mope around a bit, but hoping some of the team leaders get over this, pick themselves up off the ground and redouble efforts. Until then it’s tough to watch…
“It’s never as good as it feels, and it’s never as bad as it seems.”
Agree, but I don’t think Cavs are alone there. Warriors are causing everyone serious FOMO, and with good reason. Hey, anything can happen in the rest of the season, but it’s looking to me like last year might have been our best chance. As Nate said after the buttwhipping at the Q – “hold me”.
Yep. Think the warriors specialty is destroying teams’ spirits, connectivity, etc.
But, keeping our heads up, the Warriors have been playing so well this year, that facing actual competition in the Finals might catch them off guard and cause a bit of a panic in the same way that getting destroyed by the W’s seems to have messed with our heads.
But the issue is that they HAVE faced actual competition and destroyed it all. Their losses are practically negligible because they get up for every big game and beat the teams that matter. Not just beat them, but dominate them to the point where there is no way the opposing players and coaches don’t feel a blow to their confidence. I’ve resigned to the idea that the Cavs chances of winning a championship have been dashed for the duration of LeBron’s remaining good years because in the West we are witnessing a historic team creating a legitimate dynasty.
That might be true, but the Cavs can get to a level where an upset is possible.
That was me.
I’m laying here on the floor in the fetal position.
Get up. Ugh. This Warriors team is good but can be beaten. LeBron almost took them down by himself last year. Stop with this nonsense.
The Warriors were considerably worse last year, and Lebron is considerably older and slower this year.
LeBron might be older, but he’s not slower… if anything, he’s looked way more energetic than he did the first half of last year. The problem is that the Warriors at least appear to be much much better…
I was trolling Cols with that comment, but it does seem to me that Lebron looks more declined each game…
The Warriors are better this year. However, the playoffs are a different animal. Guys can catch fire a couple games, or go cold. Cavs will be the underdog vs either GSW or SAS. That doesn’t mean I don’t think they can (and will) beat them. I thought we had a better chance with Blatt (continuity and his playoff game plans, mostly), but at the same time I don’t think coaching is going to make us or keep us from winning a championship. This team CAN win it. They will win it. They will just have to play some special ball… Read more »
Apologies Tom. Hope you are surrounded by a caring support network.
Mike Golic’s take this morning on “swag” and illuminating stats of Cavs success playing slower vs faster.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:14650797&startTime=00:00
Literally, Steph Curry, this year, is the most skilled basketball player that has ever played this game, taking into account everything. — David Thorpe
That’s one dumb quote considering Michael Jordan is still around. Jordan’s Bulls teams would slaughter this Warriors team.
He said most skilled, not the best player to ever play.
Jordan was more skilled.
Jordan couldn’t shoot or dribble as well as Curry.
Jordan would kill Curry in any matchup.
In the 90’s he would’ve.
Jordan was the better athlete, but Curry is in a different universe as a shooter, and a better dribbler, and at least as good a passer. Jordan would kill Curry at one on one, Curry would roflstomp Jordan at Horse. It’s a different era – Jordan ruled in the dunk era, Curry is the ideal player in the 3 era.
It’s kind of an apples and oranges comparison. Jordan: * Unstoppable counter-moves to the basket can beat anyone one-on-one. * Unstoppable mid-range shooting * Lightning quick hands, solid perimeter defense. * Indomitable will, completely dominated the league for years Steph: * Unique combination of quick release and range * Amazing handle and quick passer makes it seemingly impossible to slow down * Excellent freelancer for steals * Plays with overflowing confidence. Has dominated the league for year. Jordan would presumably win a one-on-one easily. As a modern 3-point shooting monster the Dubs would probably blitzkreig the 90s Bulls. However, it… Read more »
Put peak Jordan in today’s NBA and he probably averages 45 a night.
Put peak Chamberlain in today’s NBA and he probably averages 300 a night.
See I can pull numbers out of my Loo too.
I’d like to see what Curry would average if he actually played in 4th quarters. And if he were more selfish. He could put up ridiculous scoring numbers.
So what was supposed to be the tipping point of Blatt losing the locker-room was his benching of RJ and Mo. Since Lue has been at the helm, Mo is now getting a whopping 5 minutes a game, and RJ has remained glued to the bench.
It is what it is. I think I have been one of the more critical of the move for both short term and long term reasons, The move looks even more foolish since the spurs maasacre by the warriors and Pop insinuated as much. However, what is done is done, no going back now, so all we can do as cavs fans is hope it works and go all in with the Lue era. For better or worse this is our team, go cavs. Patience will be critical over the next few months. As long as they do not regress,… Read more »
I think he mostly was getting **** for benching them without telling them beforehand that that was going to happen. Not for benching them generally.
One thing I like about that Delly/Lebron pick n roll is that most of the time it puts Lebron in the middle of the court which is easier point of attack compared to him being the ball handler. It’s like posting up w/o backing down the defender. And when he’s on that spot (above the free throw line) it’s already a deadlier pick-your-poison for the defense. Three times he scored, one time it opened Shump and knocked down a 3.
That play should be on page 1 of our playbook.
I enjoyed the game and would ordinarily think post something about my observations – but I am still buzzing that Fred McLeod during the broadcast mentioned my 2 year old daughter’s propensity for reciting all the names of the Cavs players. I’ve always thought he was a class act but fitting these kind of things into a busy game commentary just blew me away. Thanks Fred!!!
Wow that is awesome
I heard the comment. Nice !!!
I bet your daughter can also recite the number of plays the team have in their offense. Would be very easy for her to name it all. ;)
Yes rj, she has complete command of single-digit integers!
Haha my wife and I looked despondently at each other when that comment was made, knowing our two year old can only identify LeBron James.
That’s an awesome shout out, Simmo! Good on ya!
Well done mate! Teach ’em early!
Cavs looked pretty great until the final few minutes. Probably the 2nd best team in the NBA right now. Spurs looked old and slow.
Pop: “I’m just glad my general manager wasn’t in the locker room. I might have gotten fired.”
That is an awesome quote.
SAW THE COMMENTS MADE BY POP AFTER THE LOSS—–CAN’T TELL ME HE WON’T HAVE THE SPURS ” AMPED ” UP AGAINST THE CAVS ON SAT —-JUST TO PROVE A POINT
I’ve never seen a Pop team get dismantled like they did last night. These regular season games don’t mean jack anymore for anyone so long as the Warriors are feasting on every franchise.
Team looked great in spurts. But really labored down the stretch. If Lue can get them to play at their peak for 4Qs, we will be tough. It’s gonna take at least a month though.
Agree that Lue’s pressers continue to be odd. But I think he is doing it intentionally. He is going out of his way to criticize the Big 3 a lot. We’ll see if it works.
AGREED DELLY IS THE PLAYER ( NOT MOZ ) WE GO AFTER TO SIGN THIS OFF SEASON ———-LIKE OR NOT MARKIEFF WILL BE SOMEWHAT ” SHOWCASED ” ON WED FOR THE CAVS ——-WOW THE DUBS AT PRESENT LOOK ALMOST UNBEATABLE ( WITHIN 1 WEEK THEY BEAT CAVS / BULLS / SPURS ALL BY 3O PTS OR MORE)——-ANY TRADE RUMOR (AND YES I WAS THE ONE WHO INITIATED IT ) INVOLVING BOOGIE COUSINS WILL NOT HAPPEN—48 / 56 THE LAST 2 GAMES —-HE IS A BEAST !!
How do I get one of those Delly Australia Tee Shirts? Love it. Happy Australia Day!
Thanks for the recap — still have only watched most of the first half. There’s some good stuff there — more Spursian movement with penetrating, dishing, penetrating again style plays.
They are really focusing on the offense and it shows in the box score. The defensive lock-down just isn’t there. No worries.
Great Australia Day night for our boy. I love the Delly-to-LeBron connection. Clearly Blatt’s firing isn’t going to keep Delly off the court.
It’s great that we have an fairly easy schedule stretch here to try and work in new plays and a new attitude.
Congrats to Coach Lue. Now let’s go play basketball. Some thoughts. – That Delly/Lebron pick SHOULD be a staple on our offense from now on. Two very high IQ players that are also great passers. Never once did I see that pick never produced a score on our part. Never mind that it is against the Wolves but that play was successful at every turn tonight. – I might want to try to put a chunk of Kev’s minutes with the 2nd unit just like what coach thinks. He will still start and will play major 4th quarter minutes tho.… Read more »
http://fanbuzz.rare.us/story/gregg-popovich-throws-all-the-shade-at-the-cavaliers-after-bad-loss/
Pop is the best.
Even though Griffin says he has heard the criticism from other top coaches, this one from Popovich has to sting. Griffin is the one who has to look at himself in the mirror. Memphis gave GS a good series with their slow down style last year in the playoffs, and the Cavs may have even taken it a notch slower. This faster pace may create more transition opportunities, but it sure isn’t a recipe for beating GS. And Lue seriously has to think before he talks. Saying Irving/Love shouldn’t worry about their brand is just plain ignorant.,,,among many other head… Read more »
His pressers are SO weird.
But, in some way, he is actually being very honest. He just keeps throwing his stars under the bus. So far he has said all 3 of the Big Three are out of shape, KLove is slow, because KLove is slow he should be at the triangle, Irving is nowhere near 100% and can’t keep up, LBJ and KI fall into ISO because they are out of shape, etc.
Who knows. Maybe this style will work.
His pressers aren’t that much weirder than Blatt’s. Blatt would say a bunch of stuff and then LeBron would run the team the way he saw fit. At least now it seems like Lue is doing some real actual coaching.
Cols you have to put an /s after you use sarcasm.
I mean, Blatt refused to celebrate his first NBA win because of EuroWins
He completely disregarded TTs consecutive game streak
He said Love wasn’t a max player
He gave awful interviews and comments.
All reasons to can a coach. Because championship rosters never had difficult personalities co-existing.
Blatt couldn’t get through to the personalities. And he didn’t bring much xs and os wise either.
I don’t see any real downside to firing him.
Please… give me a break. He is the ultimate X’s and O’s coach. Now, maybe he was unable to implement this system, but that’s not completely on him.
We saw no genius from Blatt. That’s on him. You can blame the players if you want, but the GM isn’t trading away all his players just because a coach sucks at his main job.
Or the GM can just say, this is who you have as your coach, deal with it. Then the players can fall into line if they want to have a shot to win a championship.
He didn’t refuse to celebrate. He simply reminded people he’s not a rookie and had been coaching for years. If that’s a reason for players to turn on him, then that is childish and ridiculous. No different than any college coach. Seriously if this is the cause of the great beef and no one, not players, writers, Louers, etc could get over it, then it’s so disappointing on all sides. Was he supposed to throw a surprise party to commerate playing in x number of games? How silly. And all he said about Love is he’s not a max player… Read more »
What is this, high school sports? Do you not understand how the modern professional athlete works? No coach stays hired with a my way or the highway type of attitude. My goodness, this isn’t 1978, or even 1988 anymore.
No, we are vying for a championship and this is the coach that the team hired. No individual is above the team, except LeBron of course.
I for one love it – this type of gut honesty is refreshing. It is an enormous style shift from Blatt – I enjoyed watching David and he left the viewer feeling that he had things totally under control. You don’t get the feeling that Lue is hiding anything – I like this more.
I like it a lot more too. He’s not constantly on the defensive and is willing to tell reporters what he honestly thinks, even if that includes mentioning that Kevin Love isn’t exactly the fastest man alive. It’s refreshing.
The “brand” comment is one of the best things to come out of Lue’s mouth yet. He also expanded on it by saying Kyrie and Love should defer more to LeBron. I love it, He’s explaining how those three need to be on the same page and that two of them are going to have to sacrifice even more when playing alongside one of the 5 best players of all time. I really am baffled. This blog has demanded player accountability since the beginning of last season and longer. Now that we finally have Lue saying what individual players need… Read more »
Yep. Lue seems great so far. Blatt was a guy who on paper seemed like a great coach but just couldn’t handle an NBA team as a head coach quite yet. He needs a few years as an assistant I think.
Maybe so, but so far Lue hasn’t outcoach Blatt in any way. In fact, it’s probably the reverse of that.
Lue got by the big hurdle – he accepted the game ball after his first win. It’s all gravy from there.
Here’s my hot take: Delly is better than Kyrie. He’s not nearly as gifted, but he’s better. At least right now – and Kyrie has some work to do to be as good. And the Cavs are probably going to lose him after this season, unless they want to pay him pretty massive money, counting the tax.
Thanks, Nate.
He’s a restricted free agent for the next two offseasons.
Right, but somebody is going to give him a pretty big offer sheet. And with the Cavs in the luxury tax, it will cost them a fortune to keep them. I mean, would it surprise you to see someone offer him, say 7 mill?
With the cap blowing up it would be easier to swallow that hit for Gilbert. More the year after next season. 7 mil is repectable for a player like him. Id keep Delly with that number.
Well, since Cory Joseph got 4 years, $30M (yeah I know he’s repped by $Klutch$), and Delly is the far superior backup PG… I’d say $7M per is probably the floor of what Delly gets…
He’s getting the GOAT max!!!!!!!
Right now he’s better, but Kyrie is a better player overall. He’s just not completely back yet.
Delly is smarter.
When was the last time Delly scored 30 points per game? Sure his D is better, but Kyrie is a scorer. And clutch.
Sure, but I’m not saying Delly is better am I?