Live Thread: Cavs vs. Bucks (Pre-Season)
2015-10-13The Cavs host the Bucks at 7:00 PM at the Q. The game can be seen on NBA TV and FSO. In what has become common place so far this pre-season, the Cavs will rest LeBron James on the second night of a back-to-back. J.R. Smith is sitting out his second game in a row because of a hamstring issue and Timofey Mozgov is also sitting to nurse his surgically repaired knee.
Kevin Love still isn’t playing, but he may be available later in the week according to Jason Lloyd of the Akron Beacon Journal. Jabari Parker is the only Bucks player who will be missing the contest. He is trying to come back from an ACL tear suffered last season and is resting.
Here are some things to think about while watching the game tonight:
-Pre-season wins mean nothing. Seriously. No title winning team in the past five years has had the best win percentage in the pre-season. When Dallas won the title in 2011, they were 4-4 in their glorified pick up games. Miami was 3-4. The Cavs were 6-2. So, in a way, it’s good the Cavs aren’t unleashing a nuclear bomb of winning on the pre-season.
-The Cavs offense didn’t look too hot against the Grizzlies when LeBron James had to sit. With the King on the floor, the Cavs at least had the threat of him taking the ball to the hoop to get the Grizzlies’ defense on its toes. This freed up everyone on the floor for some semi-open shots. When LeBron sat and Matthew Dellavedova had to initiate all of the play action, the Grizzlies suffocated every Cavalier who dared look at the ball. While the Bucks defense isn’t on the same level as the Grizzlies, it is formidable. They have the arm length of five octopuses, and the Cavs will again struggle to penetrate and even pass. Watch to see how David Blatt tries to free players up without any of his number one scoring options on the floor. Back door action? Motion offense? Double pick and roll plays at the top of the key? Who knows?
-The Bucks are horrendous outside shooters. Greivis Vasquez, Michael Carter Williams, Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Greg Monroe have no outside shots to speak of. Rashad Vaugn is an unknown draftee and was supposed to be a shooter. However, during the summer league he shot 25% from deep. Khris Middleton looks to be the only floor spacer the Bucks can rely on at this point. He shot 40% from 3-point land last season.
-The Cavs defense should make a strong showing tonight. They can sag off of guys, dare them to shoot, and look brilliant for doing so.
-Anderson Varejao looked spry against Memphis, and when the Memphis bigs banged with him down low, they had little to no success. When Z-Bo and Marc Gasol pulled Andy out a little bit, they were able to get open shots over his outstretched arms. Offensively, Andy had three assists last night. The Cavs should look to get him in the high post directing the team for a few plays tonight. Delly will get tired at some point and need a break from creating plays.
-It’s official. Jared Cunningham is a Cleveland darling. After scoring 31 points against Philly and 13 points against Memphis while playing very tight defense, he seems to be in the lead for the Cavs’ final roster spot. He has showed more skill than the other training camp invitees, but more importantly, he has shown non-stop effort. Quinn Cook and Austin Daye have looked good for short stretches, but have made mistakes and not always showed the extra hustle needed to make up for them. Today is judgement day for the invitees, as was yesterday. They should all be showing maximum effort tonight after reading all the headlines about Cunningham being a lock for the 15th roster spot.
Not sure I like that hook call on Kaun.
Yeah… borderline…
If Sasha can defend a guy like Monroe this well, then I’m encouraged!
I think the only type of guys Sasha will struggle guarding are undersized, perimeter 4s.
He will probably be guarding Centers the majority of the time.
Kaun doing a really nice job on D
So many Delly treys. A bar mitzvah is gonna break out.
Fred just called Delly “Dellavadoozey.”
EVIL GOD JOB OF “POINTING OUT ” EVEN THOUGH MND IS STRUGGLING/ NOT FINISHING — HE IS STILL AFFECTING THE GAME IN OTHER AREAS / MDN 1-7 SHOOTING / THE CHAMP 2-8 SHOOTING EVERYONE HAS ” OFF ” DAYS
I don’t even know what that means. I still call any shoe intended for athletics a tennis shoe.
Ninja wears no tennis shoes. Only sneakers. For sneaking.
Good D by Ninja there…
Delly knows not to shoot it from that deep…
He was also leaning forward on that 3.
MDN is 1 for 7? Ouch…
Went to the line on several of them though. Still gotta love his D… three steals and three fouls drawn…
Yeah, it’s his D that’s gonna get his roster spot. Without Shumpert they’re gonna be scrambling on defense in the backcourt as currently constructed. JR is underrated, but Mo is who he is and Delly works best off the ball.
Due for regression to the mean. 3 steals is nice, so at least his lack of offense doesn’t affect his effort on defense.
Regular season Henson would be edging toward a T.
Henson does everything TT does… for a LOT less…
I hated the 5/80 offer for TT. They better stand firm.
Dionte Christmas has some good anagrams. I’m rooting for him now. So Far I like “Mice Shit on Darts” just because its making me giggle.
Also works with Mice Darts? No Shit!
Drat! No mice shirts!
No! Mice Tit Shards!
Keep it clean fellas… ;)
Triad Tone Schism. Sounds pretty high class.
Sounds a bit discordant to me. ?
Strand Most Hi Ice
Cho Starts Midnite
Rodney Danger Ninjafield is great at driving to the hoop, but his finishing is St.-Wierdo-esque.
This game… but not in previous ones. Also he’s got three steals and three drawn fouls…
HAHAHA… that makes him more endearing.
I bet LeBron went home because he was distraught over the Cowboys benching Weeden.
JOEY B A LITTLE ” BEVERAGE ” BET THAT CUNNINGHAM MAKES THE ROSTER —-YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT ABOUT JOE STILL BEING THERE BUT SO WILL MDN—–DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE A LITTLE OF BOBBY PHILLS IN MDN ?
Yeah, I thought that back when they signed him… definitely a Bobby Phills vibe…
Probably why I like him and his game. Phills was a personal all-time favorite Cav of mine…
James Freaking Jones off of the sweet pass from Mo Gotti!
Cunningham needs to make those high percentage shots. He’s missed two driving layups in a row.
That’s still some tall timber in there… but agree, he needs to get those ones to go…
Cavs have been to the line 20 times already!
Danger Ninja wanted that slam!
Man, these Bucks just run the floor and chuck shots at the rim and backboard and pray a lot of the time…
It’s pretty bad that the Bucks aren’t schooling back-ups and back-ups to the back-ups.
Ninja with a sneaky backdoor cut. No one saw him coming.
Christmas looks fast out there… seems to make good decisions… Would like to get a longer look at him
JFJ starting to heat up!
Good hustle Cook!
Quick Noon, if he makes the roster.
Still like Mighty Quinn tho…
Chokin Joe will make the roster. Cunninham might. Christmas won’t (unless TT still isn’t signed, and even then) Because of the Luxury tax payments, dudes who ain’t gonna play at the end of the bench are a waste of money.
What’s your basis for that? They did everything they could to keep Harris in Canton last year and rookies on minimum deals are cheaper than a second year player on a draft contract.
There is much talk of keeping only 14 and leaving 15 open. harris is on a guaranteed deal.
Joey B’s correct… EG posted the Haynes article a few days ago, which spells it all out.
CHAMP! For three!
Good D by Kaun there to force the three second call…
IT MAY BE WAY TOO EARLY BUT HAS CHRISTMAS ENTERED INTO CONTENTION FOR THAT ROSTER SPOT—–STAY TUNED ——SMOKIN/ CHOKIN JOE CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE PLAYING HIMSELF OFF THE ROSTER
Man… just for marketing purposes they have to put Christmas and Daye on the floor together…right?
Christmas Daye is not coming to Cleveland this year, me thinks.
The Delly Counter is serving No. 3
Great pass from Christmas for the DELLY TREY!!
Never seen JFJ put the ball on the floor like that…
This has been another wonderful development this preseason. He seems to have developed something possibly resembling a handle.
Liking Kaun’s offensive aggressiveness… but he needs to box out better on D…
These Bucks jersies are fresh. Best rebranding I’ve seen in a long time.
Agreed. May be ONLY rebranding I’ve seen in a while that isn’t a disappointment.
Was just going to say… spiffy!
AC loves the Ninja… since he reminds him of his own game when he was young…
O K HERE IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT—OUR 2 DRAFT PICKS—1 WILL BE IN D-LEAGUE THE OTHER PLAYING OVERSEAS BUT LET’S LOOK AT THIS WAY CONSIDER BOTH SASHA AND MDN AS ROOKIES ( DRAFT PICKS ) AND I WOULD SAY WE DID OK IN THIS YEARS DRAFT
If my name was Christmas I’d wear 25
Isn’t it retired?
Did they retire Price’s jersey?
Yes…in fact, Mo Williams was 25 before he came to cleveland, I believe.
Maybe he can pick up 12 after they cut Harris.
DANGER NINJA!
Mo Williams is going to be the Mike Miller of this year, I’m afraid. He’s looking abominable on defense and his shot ain’t all that – he’s kind of a volume shooter.
Dude, bite your tongue!
Biting my tongue hurts me. I just call em like I see em.
He can still move and dribble the ball, which is more than the Mime Killer ever could. Mo will be just fine…
Agree with EG here… plus, I think Delly will see more action than some might expect because of his defense. I see Mo’s job is to let it fly, and if he’s on, then he’s in… if he’s not, his stay on the court will be short for the night.
He got into the hero ball habit the Hornets instill. His shot selection will improve once he’s on the floor with LeBron and JR and he knows he’s not the primary option.
Its not shot selection I’m worried about so much as being a complete defensive seive.
Yeah but he’s always been a swinging door. You don’t complain when a one dimensional player remains one dimensional at age 33 as long as he can still do the one thing.
Danger Ninja must practice Much jumpers.
As long as he brings the energy and ninja stealthiness on defense… he’s okay by me…
Agreed, but it wouldn’t hurt for him to take a page from the Dellavadova Book of Camp Invite to Superstardom and work on hitting those wide open threes he’ll have to keep defenses honest.
HAHAHA… I like that JOey B.
THANKS FOR JOINING GUYS—-YOU HAD ME WORRIED ——2ND UNIT LOOKS SO MUCH BETTER THAN LAST YEAR –THEY CAN ACTUALLY SCORE !!
Nice cut by MD Ninja! Great find by AV…
Ninja creates much contact. Very sneaky.
Think I’d rather have John Henson than TT.
Wow! Bad call there against AV…
Really like how the second and third units play together, good movement on both offense and defense.
You mean third and fourth units.
Was that Chris Johnson who got destroyed on that block before the Delly trey?
Not able to watch but love the stats for Kaun. 3 for 3 and 3 rebounds! Who has he been up against?
Chokin Joe and Delly back to back 3
Delly trey!!
Sorry guys! Was in a meeting… work is so inconvenient sometimes…
Delly trey! WOO
We are playing zero starters this game. In fact, we aren’t playing anyone in the Top 7. Wow.
They should probably get a better look at Austin Daye, Dionte Christmas, and Nick Minnerath…I am ALL IN on Jared Cunningham myself, but they need to do something for Tristan’s spot, and maybe put Daye, Christmas or Minnerath on the roster instead of Harris who could be moved to D-League or traded, and I think Jared Cunningham would clearly help the team at SG while Shump is out, and may compete with Mo and Delly later on…I like Chris Johnson also…I do not know why we never hear about him to fill in for Tristan…and Kaun probably should be tested… Read more »
They have the two Russians, plus Andy and Love. I’d rather have the best team than fill a need that may not really exist. TT is more of a luxury than an essential.
I mean, isn’t Kaun Tristan’s replacement, sort of? I think the guard situation was more of a concern coming in with Kyrie and Shumpert out.
Andyou looks more engaged tonight.
Delly looks like he’s improved driving to the hoop.
This is the Bucks first unit that the second and third units of the Cavs is owning so far in this game.
Ninja ready to cause Much Danger to stray deer.
Thank god the media will stop referring to Blatt as a rookie head coach.
Hopefully they say “Second Year” constantly.
Or Sophomore head coach…
Chokin’ Joe!!!!!!!
@mcten: LeBron James came to the Cavs game tonight per the team but was feeling sick so he went home to rest.
Feeling sick = felt like playing xbox.
Or pocket pool!
KAUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!
HEY EVERYBODY WAKE UP IT’S ONLY ME (NOMAD ) AND BELIEVELAND WATCHING THE GAME
Kaun is tearing Monroe up!!
SASHA NEEDS TO SEE THE ” SHOT DR “NOMAD ” WOW THAT FOUL SHOT IS UGLY !!
It’s been nice to see Jefferson play well this preseason
RJ IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN ( RIP) THE MATRIX / BENCH IS GOING TO BE SO IMPROVED
JUDGEMENT DAY(E) FOR INVITEES AND SMOKIN JOE ALL ARE GOING TO GET THE MINUTES TO SHOWCASE THEIR TALENTS AND ALSO EXPOSE THEIR WEANNESSES —–LIKE HOW THE CAVS ARE ” INTELLIGENTLY ‘ RESTING THEIR PLAYERS / LETTING THEM GET THEIR GAME LEGS / CONDITIONING SLOWLY WHILE ALSO GIVING THE INVITEES MINUTES TO REALLY EVALUATE THEIR TALENTS TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE ON WHO STAYS/ GOES —IF SMOKIN(CHOKIN) JOE IS FEELING THE PRESSURE OF MAKING THE ROSTER ( AND SO FAR SUCCUMBING TO IT ) THAT INDICATES OF PROBABLY WHAT HE WOULD DO AS A PLAYER IN A TIGHT SPOT —–JUST MY… Read more »