Live Thread: Cavs at Wizards
2016-01-06The Wizards are 8-8 since they presented the Cavs with their only home loss of the season (December 1st). That’s not great, but 12 of those games have been without Bradley Beal. The Wizards certainly aren’t as scary as they probably seem to the Cavs fans that witnessed that debacle on 1 Dec, but they’re probably not as bad as their disappointing start would indicate.
There’s a slight tension between these two organizations, centered around their all-star point guards, both selected #1 overall. Both players have, at times, shown a sensitivity (immaturity?) to criticism of their shortcomings. Wall dealt with it immediately, as the whispers around his shaky jumper became a raging horn blast around the Jerichoean walls of the Verizon Center. He’s quelled those blasts with an improved (but certainly not elite) jumper. Wall is one of those guys that after he swishes a few Js in a row everyone throws up their hands in exasperation or glee and says something to the effect of: “well, if he’s going to be hitting those, just forget about it.” We’re all familiar with that sentiment from watching LeBron for so long. It’s fleeting. As shooters, they are who they are. But Wall is no Rondo, his J has to be respected.
Kyrie, coming into the league with many more questions than answers (never let Bill Simmons forget that advocated strongly for Derrick Williams #1 overall) became a golden boy almost immediately. His hippity-hoppity style, the literal foil to his alter-ego’s professed interest in fundamentals, was (and is) perfectly suited for the modern NBA. As the game winners piled up and the broken ankles scattered about, Kyrie Irving was voted an all-star, and assumed a top-1o player in the league reputation (and “obvious” max-contract status) long before he had really earned it. With his best performances coming in all-star festivities and grainy youtube footage of team USA practices, the allure began to tarnish as Cavs fans saw through the “fly-paper” defense and all the other less-than-optimal tendencies that hindered Irving in the pursuit of Ws (oh those baseline traps…).
As they were climbing (struggling?) up the Point Guard pecking order (one with more temporary kings than the Mamayev Kurgan) they became rivals whether or not they intended it. Both players registered a dazzling resume of highlight finishes: Kyrie with the eye-popping handles and insanely creative below-the-rim finishes, and Wall, he of overflowing athleticism who could be described as having dribble penetration that starts under the opponent’s basket. On a scale of one to Soulja Boy, the rivalry of Irving and Wall is probably a 3, as bits and pieces of passive-aggressive trash talk flare up now and then (sometimes emanating from their running matesmates). The most recent spark occurred when John Wall called it a joke that Kyrie Irving had more all-star votes than he, despite Uncle Drew playing just 2 games (at the time) while Wall had earned Eastern Conference player of the month awards. Kyrie responded by basically saying that Wall had a good point and the he has a lot of respect for Wall. So, maybe downgrade the rivalry rating to 2.5 as long as Beal is out and the Cavs escaped from Waiters Island.
Alas, their fates may be diverging. Irving is enjoying the luxuries of working himself back into form on a roster that was good enough to win two Finals games (against a historically good championship team) without him. Wall, meanwhile, is making a habit out of playing through broken bones and other ailments in order to keep his fringe playoff team afloat. Wizards fans hope with bated breath that the Durantula makes a Jamesian return to his roots and joins the embattled Wall. Unless that happens, expect the differences between Wall and Irving to begin to outpace the similarities, and the fledgling rivalry to fade into obscurity.
So is tonight’s scrub-fuego candidate Kelly Oubre or some dude named Jarrell Eddie? Also, did they get his name backwards?
Cavs Sessions when referring to Kyrie : “Just trying to help the young fella” another common saying from him was “You know this isn’t my 1st rodeo”
You watch: LBJ is about to get pissed off and dominate.
Cavs don’t look all that hungry or interested…
These refs really blow! LeBron gets hit in the face?
Yeah… that one was pretty obvious… smh…
Kyrie looks like he’s favoring his leg a little bit tonight. Maybe he just banged it when he went to the floor early.
Where the H did Moz run off to?
Brew Garden. Duh.
Good one JoeyB! (also, glad you ditched the extra B)
What? Where was the foul?
Kyrie can run circles around Razor Ramon…
Need TT, Moz is too slow
Timo with some bad defense there.
Wiz must have gotten the Raps’ scouting report on Delly…
Wow… both Moz and Kyrie have shots rim out…
JR is 3-4… and NONE of them are threes… interesting…
Really love that floater he’s added. I’m proud of him. sniff.
So this Redskins commercial on the Wiz broadcast features mostly highlights against the Browns.
Wizards have 12 fastbreak points out of 26 points, basically 50%, when we take that away, we will get the lead and extend it.
IN the past, I always enjoyed the match up of Nene and Andy. They are good friends.
I know nothing about that dude, but man, he has a very punchable face. No offense, I’m sure he’s nice.
Wizs saveed by 0.3 secs
Apparently this scrub gets star calls?
Bad foul by Kyrie, but It’s okay, he tried to contest
Refs never call that.
That’s true, like you said below, a player who only played 5 games getting a call like that? That’s some real home cooking
Yeah, I don’t mind it. We’re going to win by 15, so what’s two points.
Someone needs to shave that dead cat off of Oubres head!
Isn’t that the new style tho?
Is his family part of the taxi service?
TERRIBLE CALL
Give me a break! Who calls that foul?
Kyrie. NICE. Wall wanted to win that matchup bad.
And 1 For KYRIE, LETS GO !
Kyrie Swerving!!!!!!!!!!
I like how Mozzy got that for Kyrie’s miss.
There you go Timo!
Finally TIMO, my gosh
KLOVE has been key for us so far, 6 points off his offensive rebounds
Good eye! Thanks
Oubre tryign to bring back the mid ’80s hair.
Blatt is subbing in really quick on rotations
Not sure why the Wiz front line always looks 10x more athletic and coordinated than the Cavs’. Thoughts?
They have cooler hair?
I may need a second opinion
You gotta admit though…
They run a lot and we look slow comparatively.
Delly is the smartest fouler in the league. Every one of them is smart.
TIMOOO again with those hands, sighh
Mozgov with his typical butter hands.
Stickum for Moz, stat!
Seriously Mosgov ??
Timo forgot the stickum again… smh…
Cavs need one of these tonight…
So which jack ass wouldn’t vote for Griffey? Seriously.
Love is off tonight, Nene I thought he was gone??
Seems like changing that more inflated basketball has helped
Delly has been mixing in the bounce or shovel pass to TT on the roll lately to counter defenses looking out for the lob.
If Delly misses a shot, how long until Cols comes in to bash him? I’ve got 2 minutes.
Now the tips are going the Cavs’ way…
Seems like the O rebounding has cost us about 6 fast break points but now maybe we just got them back. I like going for the O boards. There was a decent Lowe article on it today at espn.
I’ve got it on mute. What was that ball stuff? Patriots ball boy in charge tonight?
Irving complained to the refs saying that something was wrong with the ball, it felt deflated like the Wizards record.
Seeing that FT just sit on rim makes me think they chose the wrong ball.
Sloppy passing continues. WTH was that LBJ? a shot?
Gortat totally wanted to go coast to coast.
Cavs just missing shots… they’ll be okay…
Apparently the Wiz are following Tom Brady’s lead by deflating the ball.
Not loving the way Love or LeBron is playing.
Delly and Shump to the rescue.
9 fast break points for the WIZ so far, not good
How many damn bunnies are we gonna miss at the rim again against the Wiz.
Maybe like five more?
So what’s up with KI tonight. Not looking to be aggressive nor does he appear to be comfortable. No?
Not all the way back + formidable matchup is my guess.
LeBron will have to take floater lessons from Delly.
I honestly couldn’t tell if that was a pass or a shot.
Come on TT. Just a little softer touch buddy.
Nice shot Kelly!!!!!!!
Over the glass from 5 feet away is not as easy as it looks.
Every time they play the Wizards, even if it’s only been a week since they last played, I’m surprised Randy Wittman is still in the league.
What’s the date he gets fired this Season.
Its like when you realize a guys been on death row for 20 years and they’re still processing his appeal.
Now that is funny
Lazy passing. But nice move Love
I want to kill this Wizards team and their stupid small ball BS.
KLove looking good with that hook shot lately…
All Season. almost 70% I believe.
JR throwing the pipe bombs tonight!
I’ve never been a fan of Dudley. Always thought he was a mouthy turd.
Was that a dirty play by Kyrie getting down for the loose ball? Just wondering when the Delly standard applies.
The Delly Effect
Good hustle by both JR and Kyrie off the bat…
Klove hitting everything in warm-ups it seems.
Cavs come out angry and with fire tonight and blow the Wiz out of their building… #RevengeTour2016 rolls on!
Agreed. They have no Beal, and we have back KI and Shump. I don’t think it will be close. Wall will put up a good fight for 2 or 3 quarters, and then he’ll run out of steam.
The Johnny/LeBron bromance is on the rocks: cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf…
Apparently LeBron’s marketing agency has cut ties with Manziel.
Or did they cut ties with Billy Manziel?
Even Ron Mexico couldn’t believe the Billy disguise.
Ron Mexico is still maybe the greatest alias of all time…
I’m sure Billy will show up at the Q wearing a Heat jersey.
As long as he’s wearing his blonde wig and glasses… or maybe a CavsSuperFan getup…
Billy Freaking Football is gonna tear up this league…too bad the XFL is defunct, he’d be a star.
It’ll be interesting to see how this one compares to the first matchup.
Good evening CtB! Here are your numbers for tonight:
CLE is an 8pt favorite over WAS, with an o/u @ 202. Smart money is on WAS covering and the UNDER.
I’ll take CLE in a close one 104-97. My guess is WAS will get up for this one and challenge CLE, but to no avail ultimately.
I shall go against the smart money and take CLE and the Over. Put me down for 12 billion.
HAHA! Got it… just remember, I’m taking 10% of those winnings! ;)
Just like how .1% of the germs that hand sanitizer doesn’t kill is a lot of germs.
HAHA Bingo! You know what I’m talking about Tom!