The NBA’s Kevin Durant Problem (or, it’s OK to Sportshate)
2016-07-06Kevin Durant’s decision to spurn Oklahoma City this week and return to the Bay Area will have repercussions for years to come. There is no shortage of hot takes of outrage, no shortage of disappointment, and no shortage of sanctimonious culture warriors (no pun intended) telling people that their emotional aversion to Durant’s exodus is ridiculous. Don’t worry. It’s perfectly natural to (sports)hate Kevin Durant for leaving the Thunder. In fact, it’s healthy.
All these condescending sportswriters, Twitterers, and friends are telling us Kevin Durant’s exodus is just like you or I switching jobs. Here’s Deadspin’s Barry Petchesky.
Dude’s just an employee making an employment decision. Here’s a fun thought experiment: When you read analysis of the move today, mentally replace “play” with “work” and “team” with “workplace.” Durant, though on a much more public pedestal, is making the same employment decisions we make—and are encouraged to make—all the time.
Here’s an even more hyperbolic take by SportsOnEarth’s Will Lietch.
He did what Wall Streeters do, what day laborers do, what writers do, what politicians do, what nurses do, what freelancers do, what every single one of us does, or at least tries to do. He recognized his value on the open market and made certain that he was able not only to have the utmost control over his situation, but also make the decision that was specific to him, the one that did well for him financially, personally, emotionally. It is, on this Independence Day, the American dream. A human, through hard work, talent and dedication, using the spoils of his labor to declare his freedom to do what he wishes and be compensated handsomely for it. Outside the world of sports, we would all cheer this.
Lietch goes on to deride Durant critics who’ve called Kevin “selfish,” “a front-runner,” “greedy,” “disdainful of Oklahoma City,” “weak,” and “a heel.” Myself, I called KD a coward and a traitor. Lietch and everyone who compares Durant to the average Joe is completely missing the point that sports is not “real life.” The entire reason these guys make so much money is because of the passion of fans. Anyone who plays, follows, and/or coaches sports knows that teams, their players, and their fans coalesce into a tribal identity, and that tribal identity is the passion which fuels viewership, ticket sales, merchandising, etc. If one moves from one tribe to another, especially the tribe that just beat you, it’s considered a betrayal and an act of cowardice. Heck. Look at how Cavs fans booed Andy, and he didn’t leave by choice.
Sportswriters are trying to get us to decry our basic, tribal instincts and to look at the bigger picture. But it’s cynical for people who make their living writing about the NBA to say that its consumers are suckered by tribalism and the marketing of the NBA – marketing based on competition and rivalry, and funded by fan passion. To, on one hand, enjoy the money generated by that zeal, and then, on the other hand, expect there to be no consequences when Durant and other turncoats disappoint fans, organizations, and teammates, and spurn the time, emotion, and money they have invested is either of naive or malevolent hypocrisy.
There is nothing wrong with caring about basketball, and nothing wrong with a little sports hate. I hated the Raiders in the 90s. I hated the Spurs of nine years ago. I hated the Heat. I hated the Zombie Sonics. I hated the Warriors. I HATED LeBron cause he broke my heart and crapped on where I live (and has since made amends – clearly).
But “Sports hate” isn’t real. And, while people can argue whether sports is a sucker’s game and an opiate for the masses, It can be a healthy, cathartic outlet for projecting your real life frustrations onto a sports villain or heel. You can turn it off when it’s over and go back to your life. It’s true that some people certainly lose the ability to draw the line between sports hate and actual destructive behavior, and someone needs to help those fans put things into perspective. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting to see a professional athlete fail on the court, the field, the golf course, etc. and then putting on your shirt and forgetting about it when you go to work on Monday.
The money made off folks rooting against professional athletes spends just as well as the money made off folks rooting for professional athletes – and we should laugh in the face of any sports writer who feels compelled to tell large swaths of the population how to feel about anything.
There are “real life” comparisons. I’d consider it a dishonorable act for someone to go to a competitor, all things being equal. It’s certainly not a choice I’d make, and I’d consider it a betrayal if a co-worker did it. It’s a free country, but and the fact that Durant is taking less money to go to Golden State has got to burn his teammates. And, the fact that Draymond Green was by many accounts
“actively recruiting” Durant throughout the season seems like a very bad continuing trend for the NBA.
In many respects, I get why Durant did this. I don’t know if Russell Westbrook will ever win anything. He can be so brilliant at times, and then he can piss away games like he did Game Six. And, Billy Donovan didn’t figure out how to coach till the playoffs. And, the Thunder did trade James Harden…
But going to the team that just beat you invites all sorts of horrific implications. Do these players actually care about the cities they work in? About their teammates? Was Durant “really trying” when his team blew a 3-1 lead versus Golden State?
Check out his fourth quarter shot chart in the pivotal Game Six. Was he tanking? I don’t really think so, as it was Russell Westbrook’s litany of terrible decisions more than Durant’s poor play that led to that late game breakdown (and maybe is part of why KD rolled on out), but the perception that Kevin could have been tanking in a league where half the league goes in the tank by season’s end is an enormous problem.
These critics of fan passion also like to say things like, “if you’re not an OKC fan you shouldn’t boo KD.” And, “the city that stole the Sonics got what they deserved.” I empathize with the people of OKC. I have family and friends who live there. And, I’ve felt what it’s like to have someone leave that I invested a lot into. (LeBron, 2010). Believe me, I don’t love how the Thunder ended up in OKC. I called them the Tacoma City Plunder for years. But, I’m not a heartless jerk who can’t empathize with the folks who didn’t have anything to do with how the city got its team.
Further, there’s a real frustration among fans who have a sense that the rules of fair-play are being violated here. A long time NBA fan I know recently referred to the association as “a joke” because there are “now two teams (maybe three, maybe one) now capable of winning a title. The rest are mulling about & increasingly all about cashing checks.” He has a completely fair point. If the NBA folded tomorrow, and the players made a completely new league, they’d have to distribute the players as evenly as they could to create a league that could be marketed in every city in which it played. Part of football’s enormous popularity is due to its competitive balance. Everyone feels like they have a shot (and the huge rosters help smooth the talent disparity – outside of the QB position).
But this Warriors’ team seems like a stacked deck that is almost impossible to compete against: a four all-star team that just added a top five NBA player and another former all-star in David West. The competitive balance has shifted so far towards them that it reminds one of those historically dominant Yankee teams or, as Colin McGowan pointed out in his excellent RealGM piece, the soccer power houses of Europe.
A season that was set to be fun and fraught is now just shy of a coronation. Durant hasn’t done anything wrong, per se, and he’s created something we’ve never seen before, but the novelty of it will only carry us so far. Is this really going to be so wonderful to watch?
A reason why Average Joe Fan gets so irritated when players are signing exorbitant checks is because these team’s fans don’t feel like they have any shot at a decent season. If their team is not in the top 10 or so, they don’t even have a chance to get to the second round of the playoffs. And, if they’re not a playoff team, they’re going to actively stop trying to win games to get a better draft pick. And yeah, most of us don’t have a problem with the players getting paid versus the owners, but it’s not easy for everyone to see players hitting the lottery when they don’t seem to have to care or play all that hard, just cash the checks.
The shift towards a Plutocracy in the NBA one of the things that the last labor stoppage was designed to thwart, and KD’s move will likely add to owner’s intransigence in the summer of 2017. The richest billionaires in the world don’t want to compete in a league where they feel only a couple teams have a chance, and to the average fan, it has to feel like what so much of this election season is about: if you’re not in on “the system” you’re locked out of it, and can’t grab the next rung on the ladder.
And that’s the problem with sportshate. Eventually, when you feel like you don’t ever have a chance, you suffer through the five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. OKC fans are probably moving on to bargaining, and then will come the malaise, and eventually folks will just check out. The NBA is in trouble if more fans than than just OKC’s get to malaise, and then acceptance – you know, turning off the TV and going outside. I’m sure the players, the NBA, and the sportwriters who depend on it for their living would much rather fans hate Kevin Durant than close up their wallets and turn off the TV.
Cavs have one more roster spot open. That assumes LeBron, JR and Champ all return, and Felder makes the team out of training camp.
Is there an athletic big out there still looking for a home who could help handle Draymond and Durant?
Boogie /s
See above.
This couldn’t have gone better. So lemme get this straight – 1. Wade leaves Miami, making Miami, and Riles, worse, 2. Wade doesn’t sign with us, which would have caused us to dump good players to make him fit and then been saddled with a player clearly on the decline, 3. Chicago is blowing themselves up so they are no longer a threat, and 4. We are GIFTED Mike Dunleavy. What’s not to like?
Yep, worked out pretty well. If only there had been a way it could hurt the Celtics too…
“Hey Mike… can I borrow that meme of yours?”
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Fun fact: Mike Dunleavy was drafted third by the Warriors in 2002 and spent five years there during the long, long winter that began after the departure of Chris Webber in 1994.
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If a foreign player is part of the Dunleavy deal, there are four possibilities besides Osman.
For a more legible version: http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Cleveland_Cavaliers/5/Rosters
I’m guessing it’s someone other than Osman, and the someone won’t ever play in the NBA. Just had to throw in something in the trade to follow the rules.
Riles: “I still want you to play me in the movie, Mike…”
Mike: “I dunno… who’s gonna play LeBron and Wade?”
Riles: “Get the hell away from me…”
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Dunleavy is under contract for the next two years at about $5 million per. So with the tax, that’s how much? $20 million a year from Gilbert?
“Wait… we did agree on thumbs down… right Mickey? Right?”
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Griffin really is a great GM
“If you don’t like it here… you can just go home like LeBron!”
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Sockless curmudgeons don’t die. They just fade into irrelevance.
“Man, that looks real uncomfortable. Wait, are those ladies shoes?”
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“I get no respect. No respect I tell ya!”
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Love this one.
“Alll byyy myyyyseeellllfff… Don’t wanna be… Alll byyyy myyyyseellllf…”
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https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/750891834293915649
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/750889876086816769
Love the Dunleavy pick up!!! Let’s go Duke!
Great shooter, willing passer…. smart and tough on defense. I’m sad about Delly… but this does a lot to ease the pain.
Time to “re-tool” Pat…
LOL
https://twitter.com/woodymlb4/status/750866782634729473
How freaking WEIRD does the landscape of the EC look now?
Windhorst: The Cavs will use a trade exception to acquire Dunleavy and also are likely to send a second-round pick or the rights to a player overseas, sources said.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16842415/cleveland-cavaliers-acquire-mike-dunleavy-trade-chicago-bulls
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God I hope it’s not Osman.
Just cannot imagine Griffin would do that.
Doubt it. They have the rights to a bunch of overseas players. Can’t find the list now, but there are probably a half-dozen besides Osman.
Yikes…
https://twitter.com/espn/status/750887125189402624
It’s a mystery to me why anyone would sign Rondo for any reason. He’s toxic, and doesn’t help in winning. Teams are paying him millions to go stat padding and triple double hunting.
Late to the party today, but great piece Nate!
Richard Jefferson. Notice Lil Kev in the background?
https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/750883268816302080/photo/1
Nice
Genius! Did they have to make a separate deal for Lil Kev?
Hooray!!
https://twitter.com/RealGM/status/750887726812057600
https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS/status/750889659912232962
Rj and Dunleavy will net LeBron a lot of rest this season.
I was about to say that I’m not sure jefferson will be back, but looks like he will.
Has there been any word at all on what’s up with JR Smith?
No news is probably good news. Indicates things are following the same general path as TT’s situation last summer, with no other teams in the picture — just Klutch holding out for as much as they can get.
Dunleavy is a great signing.
FTS is reporting RJ resigned as well. 2-year deal.
Nice.
Yeah. RJ, Dunleavy, Shumpster. Some 3/D guys we can throw at skinny lil’ Ws.
RJ confirmed on his snapchat !
Tweeting at the King! I like it!
https://twitter.com/MikeDunleavyJr/status/750875475484958720
Hope he can stay healthy this year!
https://twitter.com/MikeDunleavyJr/status/750873797322870784
Dunleavy was as tough as nails in that CLE/CHI series two years ago. Smart, made shots, played D.
Cavs > Ws
Cavs + Dunleavy > Ws + KD – Barnes – Bogut – Ezeli – Speights – Barbaso + Zaza + West
QED
“The probability of event A occurring given that event B never occurs is obviously zero.”
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/750874614411042816
I’m excited too Mike! This is a great fit and they finally used a TPE!!!
The guy shot almost 40% from 3 last year and has the size to defend 3’s and 4’s. Plus all that vet savvy. He is the perfect addition to the bench and to the small ball lineup.
A better potential pickup than I could have hoped for, but it will really depend on his health…been fighting a bad back. He will get a lot of looks from 3 if he can stay on the court.
He will have to play minor minutes on the Cavs. Easier to stay healthy. Fingers crossed.
Wow, this is a nice surprise out of the blue. Thanks Bulls!
What TPE’s do we have? I hope we don;t have to use Varajao’s …
According to Bobby Marks/ Woj, they are using part of Varejao’s TPE.
Ah, good. Wasn’t sure we could split it up.
you just can’t combine them, yes?
Right. (to the best of my knowledge)
Andy’s trade exception was the only one large enough to absorb Dunleavy’s salary.
https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/750870955535192064
A good fit for the Cavs bench if it happens.
Go GarPax, it’s your Birthday!
If they do this and he plays as well FOR the Cavs as he usually has AGAINST the Cavs, he’ll be Sixth Man of the Year.
Cavs would have to waive/renounce someone to make cap space, wouldn’t they?
See above
Cool!
I so hope the Bulls bring in Lance, too…it would be awesome…
also… Ray Allen is sniffing around (alert Cols?) http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16822398/ray-allen-eyeing-golden-state-warriors-considering-return-nba
Bulls trying to dump Calderon. Too bad he isn’t better…
I heard they are trying to dump Dunleavy too
I’d take Calderon…just will need two 1st round picks as throw ins…
Whoever runs the CtB twitter account, this was a great one. Crazy to look at Bosh now.
https://twitter.com/CavsTheTweets/status/750865465359015936
Wonder if Wade didn’t believe that Bosh would return to Miami?
Elijah Kim runs it.
As the ringleader of all Wade Twitter news, I can say I am 100% glad we didn’t get him at that price. If he wanted to chase a ring at a low price, he would have been amazing. $50M at his age is not a good deal. Bulls doing strange things.
Yeah Wade was historically great in his prime. but that was almost a decade ago.
Man, the last two years have driven most teams in the NBA nuts. GSW are now a pretty nuts super team, and LeBron is certainly the real deal, but it’s not like people started making these crazy Mozgov or Wade signings last time the cap went up, or when the Spurs seemed like they might go legacy on everyone, or am I misremembering? Wild times.
Wouldn’t mind if the Cavs helped the Bulls unload some salary by taking Dunleavy…
Also, seriously, wtf are the Bulls doing? Dump Rose, sign Rondo, and now maybe grabbing Wade for big money? Thought they were going to try a mini rebuild…
It’s a major rebuild, it’s just of jersey sales, not a competitive team.
No idea. Wade is the same player as Butler, but 8 years older. Their roster makes no sense AND its expensive. Worst of all worlds.
One theory given was that Wade may help attract another big free agent next year. Surprised Wade is leaving. Wonder if Riley will say it’s the worst mistake that Wade will make in his career?
At least we can dispense with the idea of Riley being some all powerful Godfather figure. He got his Whiteside, but they are a trainwreck now…
Agree completely about Dunleavy. That guy would be a perfect bench guy for the Cavs.
They’re trying to rebuild on the fly. Poorly, but they’re trying.
Big news. Wade singing with the Bulls according to Woj!!!
really dodged a bullet on this one
Just saw that Houston might have to renounce Donatas Motiejunas – would be a feasible option at C? Desirable?
and don’t make spell that again! :)
Here’s the thing. Cavs barely beat the dubs with Harrison barnes playing like total garbage. Put Durant in the exact same role… I just don’t know if it’s doable.
Nate, Kyrie wasn’t garbage, but certainly not very good in the first two games either. And perhaps we would see more of the KLove of Game Seven in a rematch. I still think we can pound the interior and beat the crap out of the Dubs on the boards too. I am not saying you per se, but way too many fans are overly defeatist as of July 2016. We have a bigger hill to climb, but no bigger than what the Cavs accomplished this year. Next June is a long time away. And most importantly, we have #23. I… Read more »
It might not be, but who cares? This championship will mean more to us than 10 championships to Cali team fans. Besides the finals are a long way off. Anyone of their core could get injured. On top of that, anything could happen in the finals. On top of that, we got a championship. The curse is broken. Everything is awesome. We can now just sit back, relax, and finally just enjoy the regular season and playoffs because the monkey is off our back. It doesn’t matter whether we win everything in the next 5-10 years because we got one.… Read more »
On top of all that, we don’t know how they will play next season. Period.
If Jimmy Butler on the trade block has any legs, cavs should try to get Butler for anyone but Lebron, Kyrie and Tristan.
Bulls are not trade Butler. For anybody.
It is do-able. Look back at your worries for each of the last 10 seasons on July 6. They were likely all rendered irrelevant by April. No team is unbeatable. Ever. Let the chips fall during the next 10 months and we’ll deal with what’s left standing.
Cavs took 4 of 5 from Ws once they woke up. And, again, as Ws fans made clear after the Finals, Bogut is their most important player and #HeGone.
https://twitter.com/CavsNationNet/status/750798907999784961
Nice!
Durant can go anywhere he wants, but yeah obviously this doesn’t look good for his all time ranking as far as skill since it is literally can’t beat em join em. Really surprised he didn’t sign a one year contract with OKC to see if they could get over the hump. Maybe the Ibaka deal rubbed him wrong. I hold no ill will to the warriors since we would be loving it if the cavs could pull off the same deal. Their incredible scouting in the draft was the the thing that got curry (7th pick!), thompson (11th pick!), and… Read more »
Man, I am just LOVING not caring about the offseason. Its just interesting fodder. But I. Don’t. Care. We are the Champs. Keep on winning the offseason Warriors. You and the Browns can compare press clippings.
Yup, feel the same. I’m hoping it lasts throughout the season, and I can actually enjoy an NBA season without the normal Cavs anxiety that accompanies it.
This move puts the Warriors even further into the pace-and-space model, something they were already historically good at.
If a team were to develop that could consistently stop this, from a style and prospective, what do you think that would look like?
Can the Cavs be that team due to LeBrons greatness and the more balanced, play any style, type of attack?
I don’t think anybody can stop their offense. I was going to add more, but I don’t there is much to add. Hope they miss shots. And try to outscore them.
Oh come on. Don’t be so defeatist. It’s going to be tough for teams, especially bc so few have a player that can guard KD, but I think it can be done.
Not being defeatist, just realistic. They were unguardable this year when Klay was hitting shots (Curry was so good it was a given with him)…now you add in yet ANOTHER top shooter in the world, who also happens to be 7 feet tall and one of the best 3 or 4 players in the world….
They are going to be undefendable.
MikeO, I know you (and me too) had a bleak forecast before the playoffs if the Cavs faced the Dubs. Nothing in the regular season last year indicated we could play such good defense and disrupt Curry/Thompson. I have a new more positive attitude given what happened in this year’s epic playoff run. Hoping that Shump gets better and we pick up one more wing defender. Many analysts felt the Dubs were undefendable heading into this year’s playoffs. OKC tried to outscore, but we outmuscled them.
The Cavs already DID stop their offense. Blueprint: use their switching against them….put them in a position where either Klay or Seth has to defend on every single play. Then wait until their legs fail them late in the game, and shots all fall short.
It would look like the 2016 Cavs. You need versatile defenders that can switch anything. You then need at least one, and hopefully two, of those defenders to be big enough to punish the smaller quicker guys in the paint. the other 3 or 4 need to be able to hit threes consistently. Thompson and Lebron broke the Warriors System. Lebron because he could destroy any of them in the paint, and Thompson because he could prevent the fast break by controlling the boards. Both of them could switch on defense onto anything. Ed Davis and Portland almost knocked the… Read more »
LBJ owns Durant. Kyrie owns Steph (time-share with some KLove D). JR owns Klay.
Not scared.
Oh no. This week’s SI!
It’s all about winning one for the (Oak)land…
+1.
And I’d add: In the (Oak)land, everything is given….nothing is earned.
HAHAHA both of your comments are hilarious
This article is great. Congrats, Nate, on verbalizing what so many of us can’t. Also, outside of Cols, this blog is great at providing well-thought responses. I’ve agreed with mostly everything being said. It really doesn’t feel like anything but trying to win easy on Durant’s part. It DOES feel like “Thanks but no thanks OKC fans, I’m just going to get mine. Enjoy the aftermath.” Also, LeBron was able to make amends because of his unique set of circumstances and relationship with CLE. KD won’t have that opportunity. Another thing to consider is how will all of these guys’… Read more »
Steph found a defense he can get to the rim against.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHgPlVTjGkn/
So Wade just left his meeting with Arrison. His acceptance of our $3M MLE should be public any minute now.
https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/750789365937340416
Hot Sauce refusing to give up haha. Keep at it, man.
:) Austin Carr’s son said it was true. So it has to be!
He should sign with the Bulls…how fan anyone say no to playing with Rondo? Also, epic locker room connect four games…
Nene signed today with Houston for 2.9 million. Could he have helped the Cavs? Didn’t see him play enough, but his numbers weren’tbad for the time played in 58 games.
He would likely be an upgrade over Kaun, but they already start have TT and Frye playing C with Love there at times as well. They seem to be looking at wing players as their lack of bench defenders there is a weak spot. If Shump were to be injured, and that NEVER happens, they’d be down to McRae (super unproven and better against 1/2’s) or RJ (assuming he’s back but he’s pretty slow these days and more of a small 4).
I have a lot of sportshate toward Durant. One of the few times I agreed with Screaming A that it was a weak move by a superstar given the situation he is leaving, and where he is going. This sad move just reninforces the great leader LeBron is for his team. Every Cavs player interviewed mentioned that in the Finals, James said follow my lead and jump on my back. I would love to know what KD said to his OKC teammates, or the mouthpiece dangler when he was clearly not living up to his MVP status for the second… Read more »
Yep. Frauds. I love it.
Didn’t you guys say I get to be on a podcast if the Cavs won it all?
What do you want to talk about?
How awesome LeBron is. How much of a fraud Curry is. How the Cavs need JR Smith bacfk.
Why didn’t you call into my radio show?
I forgot.
Pretty sure “I forgot” is code for “I was extremely baked.”
Sounds fascinating…
Cavs should sign some bruisers. I’m not sure who is available, but Golden States stars are kind of soft (other than Green).
Maybe. Or maybe it doesn’t matter because they have shown that they are nothing but wimps who masqueraded as bullies fora bit. Once they ran into a fully healthy team in the playoffs they were exposed.
Yesterday you all but handed them next year’s title.
Yeah. I sucked yesterday.
When LeBron made the Decision, it was bad. Real bad, and I hated him for it. But he “gets it” and erased everything in the perfect return home essay. Now I feel like Durant looks at LeBron and says to himself, “if he can choose to play with his friends on a superteam why can’t I?” So Durant runs off to join the W’s at the behest of his agents and Nike reps. Thing is, LeBron instantly realized his mistake (not necessarily the act of leaving, but just the manner) when he saw those clips of burning jerseys. He was… Read more »
Someone on another site called Durant’s move Unprecedented pussification… lol…
Haha. And he’s joining a finesse team that folded when things got tough. LeBron has to be pretty happy about how badly the Warriors look.
LeBron is sitting back in his throne, feet up, thinking, “Bring it on, babies. Making me look bigger and badder by the day.”
Don’t ever read anything written by Kevin Draper of Deadspin. Dude is a Warriors homer.
Here’s how I imagine the meeting going;
Curry, crying in the corner “It’s not fair, LeBron is just so mean, can you please come save our franchise Kevin?”
Braymond punches him in the nuts “You shouldn’t have choked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Curry “But, but but I’m not used to playing against healthy teams in the playoffs”
Klay takes a drag off a blunt and says “We are still champions in my mind”
Curry slowly falls to the floor crying even harder “PLEASE PLEASE KEVIN SAVE US FROM LEBRON!!!”
Haha. Probably not too far off the real thing.
That Deadspin article is a complete crock (like most of their crap)…anyone pulling out the tired argument of ‘it’s just a job, like any other job, he’s just changing his workplace’ has completely missed the point. It’s a job, yes, but it’s not a ‘job like any other job’ — it’s a competitive league.
Hope the NBA enjoys this move…it moves them one step closer to the Harlem Globetrotters vs the Generals. I would expect it’s going to further kill interest from the general fans of most of the teams in the league, even more than last season did.
Nah. It’s not the NBA’s fault. It’s hard to come up with rules to stop stuff like this with the Warriors luck with Curry’s contract and all. It’s up to the players to not go join the team that they just choked a 3-1 series lead against. That’s the weird part. It’s not Durant leaving, it’s Durant joining a team that he personally choked against. It’s so weird.
This. The owners can’t want the NBA to devolve into a two-team league like the 80’s. The players have a responsibility, too, to uphold the integrity of the league. It is, after all, a league for entertaining. And fans in 28 arenas will not be very entertained for 95% of games this year.
I just don’t get why Durant would want to sign with a 73-win team other than to win a title easily. There’s no other reason. Since that’s the reason – I reserve the right to find it weak. And it’s boring, to be honest. It renders the entire season null and void. All anyone is going to be doing is watching closely to see if any of the Warriors big 5 suffers a significant injury – that way there might be some drama in the playoffs. And it’s not great for the league. Forget the regular season not mattering, the… Read more »
Yep. The Warriors have outed themselves as a joke.
It’s funny how the media has framed this move as similar to LeBron’s Heat move, as far as “once he wins titles all the criticism will go away” more or less. Uh, that’s not what happened with LeBron at all. Fans are so much smarter than the talking heads give us credit for. We understand that LeBron’s two rings with pals in Miami are “worth less points” than the chip he brought to the Land. There is a reason Bill Russell isn’t everyone’s unanimous GOAT — we actually are capable of looking at the whole picture rather than just counting… Read more »
Good post, Carson.
Overcoming obstacles and the struggle is a powerful legacy. It’s not just getting rings.
A simple image I saw via reddit explains things well:
https://www.reddit.com/r/clevelandcavs/comments/4rk9gt/the_comparison_is_completely_ridiculous/
Oh, and on the Draymond recruiting Durant thing… Did you hear what Donkeyface more or less told Durant? “We’re gonna win rings whether you come here or not”
“How many rings you gonna win in OKC?”
“How many rings would we win TOGETHER?”
^Entitled brat alert
Yep and OKC would’ve been favored to come out of the West had Durant stayed.
Yeah, no idea why Durant wouldn’t tell Bray to F off at that. Comes across as weak ass, sorry to say.
One annoying thing I keep hearing is that Durant’s ‘circle’ had been distancing themselves from the Thunder. Close to number one on my list of things to not GAS about is what player’s ‘circles’ think about anything.
Great article. I have no problem with KD leaving for his own reasons. I likewise have no problem with OKC sports hating him to the nth degree. You can’t accept the benefits of free agency and then act shocked when you have to suffer the consequences of it as well. When LBJ left, I was always sure to state that I hated him because he left. Not how he left, but because he left. Because I love the Cavs, and that’s illogical and silly and true. OKC fans should hate away at Durant, the Warriors, LBJ, and anyone else they… Read more »
And the ridiculous Lietch take and others like it are so clueless it’s comical. They are defending a person’s right to choose what’s best for them. Not close to the point by even a mile. What did we learn in kindergarten: what’s best for you isn’t always best for everyone, or something like that? My point being, no one is denying Durant or any free agent have a right to choose where they work. But most people also aren’t public figures whom millions of fans look up to as a role model and representative of the city’s name stitched onto… Read more »
It’s hard to see a system which would increase parity. I guess one would be having a max contract be much much higher (like 60% of the cap) or unlimited – but that would make teams like the 2011 Heat even harder to compete with as they all took a discount. It would be weird to say “you must take a minimum amount of money” but perhaps it is necessary?
Yesss let the (sports)hate flow, I loved this article. Especially this point: “sportswriters are trying to get us to decry our basic, tribal instincts…” That’s exactly what’s been making me so mad about the coverage and media-defense of the Durant move. It’s like they’re putting down fans, telling us not to BE fans. “Durant doesn’t owe you anything, he gave his hard work and it’s his right as a human to make a decision that is best for him” blah blah blah. Athletes are ENTERTAINERS. We — as in, FANS — are paying for their meal tickets. So don’t give… Read more »
If Warriors won championship, Durant wouldn’t have come to warriors. Now, if warriors win a championship, he will be credited to leading warriors to NBA championship and then will be easy to forget that he joined a competitor.
As cavs fans, you know first hand that it is not uncommon for a free agent super star go elsewhere for championship with Lebron and then Kevin Love. How would you have reacted if Durant orchestrated Durant for Love trade ?
Question for Cavstheblog, do you anticipate Cavs make any moves as a reaction like adding Melo or something like that.
Nope. We already beat your arrogant cocky smug team once and would’ve been twice had we not lost Irving for an entire series. Now that Curry has shown to be nothing but weak mentally we can do it again.
If not, oh well, all that 73 win crap was thrown away when LeBron decided to end your season.
nice and ‘Are you still sticking with ‘everybody hates Curry and nobody wants to play with him” ? Why are you so angry when your team is a champion.
Curry’s final record is 1-1. You know you can celebrates being a champ while respecting your opponents achievement like championship+73 wins, they are amazing feats. Cavs were the deserving champion in the end, give you that. I post here because I am a Lebron’s fan and because of some smart posters and not for your crap.
Sorry… Cols is why we can’t have nice things
no worries, I will learn to ignore.
You aren’t getting affirmation here. Go peddle it a Warriors board. Your team is now the most hated team in the league. Get used to it. Sorry that Curry is a fraud. “Please Kevin, please come save us from that LeBron guy…”
Chill out and be respectful.
OK, but he’s not going get affirmation or get to peddle the nonsense that this is the same as LeBron leaving to go join a Heat team that was awful before he got there and awful after he left. Joining the team that just beat you while if you stayed the Thunder were probably favorites to come out of the West is a level above what LBron did. If he can’t see that at least he can not come to a Cavs blog and pretend we are supposed to be OK with it.
The Warriors are public enemy #1 around here. I can’t think of a sweeter way to break the championship curse.
Cols can swing it around all he wants for the next couple months.
[Make championship belt pose]
Also, has anyone asked A Curry to follow up on her “rigged” comment in light of the Durant move?
She just did some damage control with People magazine:
“I was just a fan in that moment so I didn’t think about the ramifications,” she says. “I regret the way that I voiced how hurt I was. I felt hurt for [Steph], and I didn’t mean to offend anybody. Obviously, what I wrote is not what I think about what he does for a living.”
http://site.people.com/food/ayesha-stephen-curry-twitter-response/
Caution: Total puff piece may cause nausea or vomiting.
Glad you warned me, as I needed an airplane barf bag nearby. She should have just said that she regretted being stupid.
Ok, I’ll actually answer your question with some thought. I don’t think they make a bold move related to Durant. They don’t have the cap space, and I don’t think they actually want to move Love if they don’t think they have to. His contract will actually be pretty good in the near future, and he’s not old. As for how I would feel if Durant went to the Cavs? I’m not sure. It’s hard to say. I would have been happy about getting him. I don’t think I would be super comfortable with the way, but I can see… Read more »
Great points. Love and Frye, despite how they did in finals think will net Cavs lot of wins. Did JR Smith get a contract yet ? That and backup PG are two positions Cavs probably should look to upgrade, IMO. It has kind of become norm now, super stars joining hands instead of trying to beat each other unlike in olden days.
Whatever. In the olden days the Lakers and Celtics had 3 HOF on each team. It’s not about joining up. It’s about joining the team that you just choked against. It’s about fraud MVP Curry begging Durant to come and save his arrogant team. What a joke. Have fun rooting for the villain this year. LeBron will probably still own you.
Back up PG will likely be a bit of a hole; can’t see how we upgrade that from Delly with no cap space.
MUST sign JR. He was more important (throughout the entire season) than most people realize.
Warriors might go after Jarrett Jack, might be a good for cavs too.
Please tell me you are joking.
Sure, we’d have taken Durant for Love. Maybe it wouldn’t have meshed as well, but we’d have tried it. Personally, I’d rather keep Love than Durant, because Durant is more duplicative of what we already have in Irving and James. I think the Cavs do nothing in response to Durant for two reasons: 1: there isn’t much they CAN do, due to cap and complete lack of assets without purging the team completely (the team that just won the finals). 2: I don’t think Durant actually moves the needle that much for the Warriors. Just a short two years ago,… Read more »
JoeyB, Curry shooting 3s from 5 feet out does give impression that he forces the shots but that is hardly the truth. Warriors pass a lot until they find an open shot. If someone is hot, ball always find that player in this offense. Warriors were #5 in passes per possession despite Curry and Klay taking most of the shots. Curry+Klay are just a great shooters that they are encouraged to take transition 3s when they are open, that will give that impression too. Warriors were #5 in passes per possession despite being the team with the most fast breaks… Read more »
Oh yeah – Durant is going to more than thrive in that system.
He’s literally perfect for the way the Warriors play. Perfect. You can’t find a better player to add to the mix than a lanky, 7-foot, 50-40-90 threat two years removed from league MVP and in his prime.
Jesus.
He will thrive in that system, yeah. They share the ball, yeah. They’ll score a lot, yeah. But are they a different team than the one the Cavs just took down? There is no one on that team that Lebron won’t completely embarrass in the post. At least Bogut gave them a that. Green and Iggy? Please. Green was abused and Iggy’s body is just about kaput. David West? I suppose what Golden State is trying to say is that Barnes lost them the finals by missing open threes and that Durant will hit them. Fine. Except that every game… Read more »
This is very interesting. Was talking to a co-worker about the Derrick Rose provision today. https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/4rg0o2/transcript_of_an_amazing_brian_windhorst_story/
Wow. If that’s an accurate description of events, it’s malpractice by the league.
It’s not accurate. And even if it was it’s still the OKC owners being cheapos. Good thing we have Big Danny G.
Care to set the record straight or are you just going to let that comment hang out there?
Deadspin remains the worst.
The “employment decision we all make” argument does not hold when you are making more money than 99.9999% of the population. You can’t be compared as equals with the people who are judging you when you aren’t anything resembling one.
Also, these athletes are celebrities and are not held to the same protections against character assassination as the average American. That’s part of why you get paid all of that money. The fact that they pout to the media for crafting narratives and circumvent them via Player’s Tribune to control their PR message shows how control hungry they really are.
That essay he wrote in the Player’s Tribune was awful, BTW.
Durant going to the team he choked against is really bad. And yes, I understand it’s his choice and all that other nonsense and that if he wants to win it was the right move. However he now just becomes another cog in the cocky smug arrogant Warriors machine. What a bunch of baloney. I just hope that this arrogant bunch of jerks that comprises the Warriors are booed as loudly as possible at every away game and that Durant becomes the villain. I do not think he will handle that well at all. The fun thing is that the… Read more »
“To, on one hand, enjoy the money generated by that zeal, and then, on the other hand, expect there to be no consequences when Durant and other turncoats disappoint fans, organizations, and teammates, and spurn the time, emotion, and money they have invested is either of naive or malevolent hypocrisy.”
They aren’t just passive in this – they help promote the zeal.
Yeah. People telling other people how they should feel about an event is insufferable.
It’s so weird. It’s like the backlash to LeBron leaving was OK for the writers, but now they are trying to halt any backlash to Durant leaving a team that was him choking away from the Finals to go play with the most arrogant team we’ve ever seen.
I want backlash dammit!!!!