Recap: Cavs 123, Hawks 107 (Or, Sometimes You Gotta Trade Six Guys)
2018-02-10https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3LRp_OQRyQ
Sometimes you just have to shake things up. The Cavs showed that tonight. After what seemed like two months of pure aggravation, the team looked galvanized. LeBron James didn’t glare at anyone on the floor or throw the ball just three inches out of reach of a sub-six footer’s hands. It helps there were no sub-six feet guys on the floor, but he didn’t throw a heated pass to prove a point to anyone this game.
In fact, he threw some beautiful passes as he recorded a very special triple-double getting 22 points, 12 rebounds, and 17 assists. It’s almost routine for James to have a triple-double from time to time, but tonight’s was different in the sense that it was actually happy. He didn’t do because he had to for the team to be in the game.
The Hawks showed up to play too. This wasn’t a walkover game. They hit nine 3s in the first half and were within five at half-time. Dennis Schroder went 10-18 from the floor to put up 25 points and had five rebounds and four assists. Taurenan Prince put up 15 points while going 0-9 from deep. He was 5-7 from the floor though and seemed to have an uncanny ability to blast by Cavalier defenders. Still, the Cavs held the Hawks to 43.5% shooting. Offensively Cleveland looked crisp. They had 31 assists, just nine turnovers, and 26 fast break points.
They were playing for each other all night, whether it was finding the open man or sprinting down the floor for easy buckets. Early on, the Cavs were taking jumpers. They were open ones, but they weren’t dropping. Then James found Miles Plumee on him and went to town scoring two easy layups. Cleveland didn’t pull away though and the Hawks drained a variety of contested 3s and some tough shots at the rim to stay close the first 24 minutes.
Even if Atlanta would have led, it wouldn’t have mattered. The Cavs were unified. They made each other look good and trusted one another. It’s crazy how much of a difference that makes.
With 7:26 in the first, Tristan Thompson helped out Jose Calderon after Jose and LeBron switched assignments off a pick and roll. LeBron ended up on Schroder and Jose ended up on Ersan Ilyasova. TT came over and swatted Ersan after Jose did his very best to keep the rangy big from just bull dozing to the rim.
TT was active all night on his way to 11 boards and ten points. He had a great sequence late in the first where he swatted Malcolm Delaney and made it down the floor instantly to hammer it down off a Jeff Green pass.
LeBron got in on the help fest too. After Cedi missed a wide open 3 to start the game from one of his passes, the King didn’t hold it against him. Later in the quarter, James penetrated off a J.R. Smith screen and morphed into a black hole on his way to the rack sucking five Hawks to within a foot of him. Cedi then got the kick out and delivered. When John Holland came in the game in the fourth, LBJ didn’t hold misses against him. He missed his first two 3s and the King still let him hang from deep.
Cedi delivered all night too in his first game starting. He went 6-9 for 16 points (2-5 from deep). He also had five assists, three steals, and six boards. And, he ran some beautiful one man fast breaks after securing a rebound and just going coast-to-coast to get fouled. Again, LeBron trusted him. He didn’t demand the ball after every rebound; he let the young Turk run. Cedi gives non-stop hustle, and he was the catalsyt for Jeff Green picking up a case at one point. Early in the fourth Cedi jumped out of bounds and bounced the ball back into play. The rock then found Green who went the length of the floor for a rim assault.
Kyle Korver also had a wondeful evening, and was the biggest reason the Cavs were able to take this game by such a hefty margin. He was 7-13 from deep and had 30 points. His 3s came at crucial times. With 25 seconds left in the first quarter, Korver hit a 3. In the next 74 seconds going into the second he hit two more 3s. Midway through the second with the Hawks up five, he scored seven straight points to get the Cavs back. He even completed a four free throw play to do it. He was fouled on a 3 and then the Hawks got a tech.
By the time the third quarter rolled around, Korver was officially ready to destroy. He checked into the game with 4:10 left and the Cavs up nine. During the final three minutes of the quarter the Cavs went on a 14-2 run. Korver hit 4-4 from deep to put the Cavs up 97-82 heading into the fourth. The Hawks never got the game close in the final minutes as the King whipped four dimes and Cedi the Jedi added another three.
Gripes
- The Cavs could have done a little bit better closing out on shooters, but the Hawks hit some lucky shots and the Cavs weren’t going to die with the wide open ones they allowed tonight. Kent Bazemore went 4-4 from deep. That doesn’t happen everynight. Dennis Schroder hit two straight on 25 foot plus 3s. That never happens.
- J.R. Smith might be done on the defensive end. He just lets guys blow by him now. Prince shouldn’t do this to you:
- J.R. just opens his hips up when guys try to drive on him these days. He lacks lateral speed. He put up just seven points tonight.
- Jeff Green got a little dribble happy a few times, but ultimately he figured it out. He went 3-4 from deep, had some nasty dunks, and was tied for a team high +21.
- Tyronn Lue played guys a ton of minutes, but gets a pass considering he was missing players due to the massive trade.
Hypes
- Cedi Osman is the man. He is a perfect compliment to LeBron. He’s a corner to corner guy. He will cover guys in the corner with the same speed he gets to the corner to take a 3-pointer. He’s not playing for points. He’s playing to win. And, who knew he had coast to coast dribbling ability off of rebounds?
- Near the end of the third quarter, LeBron James was fouled and taking free throws. You could audibly hear him directing John Holland and Cedi. He instructed them to spread to the corners their next offensive possession.
- That’s the type of talking that is contagious. The team communicated all night, whether it was on switches or just on where to head when someone was trying to set a play up. That contributes a lot to a teams’ success. If you’ve watched the Cavs even a little this year, you know that that communication just hasn’t been there.
- And, that’s why this team has a really good chance to prove the analytics guys wrong who don’t think the team will be much better with the new players. Analytics can’t quantify how much just liking each other matters on a basketball court. It’s a lot easier to sacrifice your own semi-open layup to get a teammate a wide open 3-pointer when you are going cheer just as loud no matter how the bucket drops.
- The meshing isn’t going to be an issue either for this team. Everything they run is simple. They switch on the defensive end with screens from any non 5 and trap and recover if a 5 is screening. Offensively, it’s just the spread pick and roll. Look how fast Cedi acclimated to playing with the King. Prior to tonight he had only shared the floor with him 132 minutes. It’s not hard to generate chemistry when all you’re doing is getting the ball up the court, running to the corners, and setting solid screens.
The Cavs take on Boston Sunday. All of the new guys should be available. The game will be a great test to see what the team needs to work on during the All-Star break and final weeks of the season.
JR’s struggles on defense stem from him being tired and unfocused. He can improve. he has had a nice run the last 10 games offensively. and he’s not too slow or injured or anything because he has had about 1 complete blow by per game where he knocks in a nice floated after a pump fake. He didn’t get traded because he wants to be here and still has upside like crowder couldn’t dream of. He has saved us from defeat at least once in each of the last three playoff runs. We can afford to keep playing him 15-20… Read more »
I’m still backing him – I think his focus & fitness will be sharpened nearer the playoffs. He has been showing signs, and he knows what kind of D is effective against GSW (assuming that’s the opponent). GET PHYSICAL.
He was pretty god awful in the finals on d last year, if I recall.
A team with spaced out/moody/low energy -jr smith as starting shooting guard will not be able to win a championship period ! The dood showed up for game 5 last year and that was it . All other games he couldn’t hit a shot or barely took any because of severe confidence issues
O and His defense for the most part will always be horrendous . Ya hel have occasional runs of being zoned in, but that won’t do it to compete for title
the projected lineup looks great but– Would love for hood to start over jr and get most of the minutes , if anyone is paying attention will see his defense /rotating/closing is beyond horrendous ! Yes he’s still a threat to shoot on offense , but doesn’t bring any energy – no cutting , no nothing! And when love gets back he takes tt spot than we got another great 3 shooter and elite defensive rebounder on floor. Really like this !
Nets lose. Mavs win. Suns hung tough for a while in Payton’s debut but no booker doomed them. Wins:
17 = Hawks, Kings
18 = Suns, Mavs, Magic, Grizz
19 = Nets, Bulls
Tomorrow:
Pistons at Hawks
Mavs at Rockets
Kings at Wolves
Grizz at OKC (hopefully Russ & Melo still out)
Standings wise, only the Hawks are more than a game behind the Nets, who are 1-9 in their last 10 & missing the injured RHJ. Bulls & Grizz ahead of the Nets & Magic tied.
Love these updates !
https://twitter.com/Jclayton614/status/962519686557691905
Rocky River native!
Lowly Mavs scored 130 in a win over the Lakers…mysterious…
You guys think a 30 game – at 20+ minutes a game – Cedi can guard Durant – of course, as best as anyone can?
If we see them in the finals I don’t know who would guard him. It was supposed to be Crowder and Green/LeBron, but does it fal on Cedi?
Cedi can try, but I really doubt he’d be very effective on Durant…frankly, the only reason I’d like to still have Crowder is to guard Durant…
So out of the expected starters, who’s going to guard him? Other than when Green comes in, is it going to fall on LeBron?
I’ll be honest and say I don’t know enough about Hood or Nance but from the bit I’ve seen I don’t think either one is capable of guarding him. I think Cedi’s energy will wear on Durant and/or Klay, kind of like Delly on Curry in ’15.
Guess we’ll start paying attention tomorrow. Can’t wait!
He is still a rookie. Tough ask, despite him being more advanced in that regard that most rooks. Jeff Green would be my choice. Has the length and athleticism to have a shot at making things tough, relatively speaking of course.
But yeah. I would say LBJ is the only one that had/has a chance since Durant went to the warriors.
Cedi I think could definitely chase and cause problems for Klay though. And hill and Clarkson have the athletic ability to chase curry.
I just can’t see LeBron wanting to run around after Durant, specially without a second iso player that he can pass the ball on offense and slack for a bit. It seems that pretty much everything will run through LeBron, so having him use all that energy looking after Durant could cause problems. Green will be on him for sure. I’m just trying to figure out the starters. I’ll have to look up Hood’s defense videos to get a sense of the guy. credit on Klay will be great. Specially if Cedi body’s him up and makes it gritty (As… Read more »
Great comments from all – I agree a combination of Cedi/Green/LBJ as primary defender would likely be what we see. Those three would have the best chance of “slowing” him down as a solitary defender.
However, gotta also think about team scheme and who helps the primary defender to get the ball out of Durant’s hands. The entire team needs to work on defensive communication and covering others’ mistakes because we all know one person isn’t enough to stop KD (or Steph or Klay).
As long as everyone else sticks to Curry/Klay and allows Durant to torch them, I think they are better off. I would rather clog up their motion and let Durant beat them by scoring 40 than help on him and allow the full power of a fully operational battle station to obliterate you.
I hope he slips on a banana peel and hurts his knee!
If it happens, it happens. No guarantee even then, for the cavs considering how close GS was in 2016. I will never wish that though. I want to beat the best as they are. If they have misfortune, so be it, but I won’t actively hope for it.
Agree – I wanna see Durant’s face when he gets shut down on a key play by someone like Cedi. I may be dreaming, but I never expected to see Curry shut down by KLove.
Another thing about some rookies is not being afraid of the moment. I don’t think Cedi is afraid of the moment and will cherish it – kind of like Delly.
“Banana peel” is supposed to indicate a joke, like the last scene in “Billy Madison”.
Ah got it. Been a long time since I have seen that movie.
Right I don’t think you are shutting down Durant in a series anymore, especially not with our personnel. However, I think they are positioned to disrupt triangle, motion, floppy, and dribble handoff/high pr with Curry/Klay and Green better than they have been since 2015. Hill is an upgrade over Kyrie on d. Clarkson and Hood have the athletic ability to chase, and Nance is TT but better and more mobile. You make those other three guys inefficient, make Durant the lone iso star and you will defend them better than we have since 2015.
Tony Allen.
The problem with rookies. Is they never get the benefits of the doubt on calls.
Yep. He could make things frustrating but I doubt he can whisper near Durant without getting a foul.
Calm down. We haven’t even played a game with the new guys, and you are panicking about the finals. Obviously there is no easy answer about what to do. If you get that far, you see what happens. Don’t forget they don’t have anyone that can cover LeBron, so let them so the panicking.
Not panicking just thinking ahead. If our wishes come true then we expect the Cavs to be in the finals, at which point I’m guessing so will the Dubs.
When we traded with Boston, before the season even started, we were already talking about Crowder being on Durant. To have the same conversation 54 games in is not panicking, just planning, now that Crowder is gone.
Can’t wait to see these guys play.
I think that we have two starting spots up for grabs. Bron, Love, and Hill seem like locks. Love at the 4 or 5 and Bron 4 or 3 are the questions for Lue. Fill in the other two spots with some combo of: 1 of Nance/TT + 1 of JR/Hood/Cedi, or 2 of JR/Hood/Cedi With Love out, 1 of TT/Nance has to start. Or if we go big then TT + Nance/Green. I hope Lue plays James as a stretch 4 most nights with Nance/TT at C & picks 2 of Cedi/JR/Hood. Close with Korver & make sure he… Read more »
JR has a lot of “seniority”, but it certainly seems time to dial back on his minutes. That seems to be the only personality problem for Lue to deal with.
If you want to tank sign IT!
HaHaHa!
HA-HA—HOPE THEY DO——THAT WOULD END ANY RUMOR OF LEBRON GOING THERE
DRAINO’S +/_ ….HAS GONE FROM + 11—TO + 3—MAVS ARE WINNING—-YES HIS DEFENSE IS / AND WILL ALWAYS BE A LIABALITY
He’ll be an MVP candidate for the Lakers after they max him…
This Purrs team can definitely compete with the Dubs over a series with a healthy Kawhi…underdogs for sure, but they’d have a legit shot…question is will they have a healthy Kawhi…
Wow, Klay can dunk when he’s not totally stoned…
16 pints from IT at the half, 4-7 from three. That is a max contract player.
GS and Purrs back and forth, good game…
don’t care if “DRAINO ” avg 30pts / game for the lakers —-glad he is gone !!!
IT hit his first shot as a Laker, it was a three…I think he deserves a max.
Bray has eaten some leather in this one…enjoyable…
Aldridge is on fire in this game…
37-27 Purs over GS after one…
They do purr like a finely tuned machine
I am just going to call them the Purrs from now on…
Amazing the Purs are this good with no Kawhi…
Spurs* 33-21 late in first…
Cury tried for the tailpipe banana to no avail…
Pelicans win. Nets missed their first 9 or 10 shots in the second OT.
138-128 Pels game. Dodged a bullet.
Right. Give some cred to Rondo for a change, who had an excellent game.
Spurs up 23-13 early…go Spurs!
Pels up 9 just over a minute left in 2OT
Pels 130-124 2:40 left in double OT…
not trying to put pressure on him ( Rodney hood ) but could we possibly see a ” young paul george” start to blossom here with LeBron playing / mentoring alongside him —-kid has a similar game to george
Don’t think he has a prayer of being a defensive force like George…it’d help if he put on some muscle…maybe Lebron can guide him there…
Spurs starting strong at Oracle…
Nets-Pels go to double OT. Pels look very much like a tired team on the second night of a back-to-back.
HEY ARCH WATCHING THAR VIDEO OF “DRAINO” SHOOTING—– MIGHT HAVE TO CHANGE HIS NAME TO 0-PHER—AS HE DIDN’T “DRAIN ” A SHOT AT ALL———OF COURSE HE TOLD WALTON ” I WILL COME OFF THE BENCH —WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO “—WHAT A TURD !!
“Offer” is actually a Norwegian name (I think). If you play baseball, you could get to be Offer Sycks if you keep starting out Owen Tough.
great win by the buckeyes —been a nice couple of days of ENJOYABLE BASKETBALL
They are looking really good…not on the level of Duke, etc, but they can compete with those teams…
Ugh. Nets take the Pelicans to OT after trailing by 28 points halfway through the third quarter.
Potentially interesting game tonight on ABC…Spurs and Warriors.
Billy approves of Houston’s deal –
https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/962382676928774144?s=20
Wright was a great pickup for them as a Capella light type backup.
my bad —-watching buckeyes —-does bates diop come out this year or stay another year going higher in the draft
I haven’t heard anything about what Bates-Diop is thinking…it may just be a matter of how much he raises his stock. If the Buckeyes go on a tournament run, it may be enough, because they aren’t going on a tourny run unless he’s carrying them…
draino
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/962397203254792193?s=20
The comments are a hoot: “Isaiah To-Miss”.
BTW, I really did not like the original IT.
That silky shot that we al know so well…
I had a much better shot in my 50’s than IT has now.
Frye says IT is a better fit for the Lakers than he was with the Cavs, and he thinks he’ll be great there. I agree, and I think Magic should get him locked up before the summer. That’ll be one superstar, then they just need to find one more.
Shump, obviously.
Marcus smart
Kendrick Perkins
IT and Smart would be a killer backcourt…then the Lakers can move Ball for a first…
Poor frye. Hope he at least enjoys the weather.
He seems to have fun wherever he goes. Love his attitude, dude is my role model.
WOW What a game when there is effort played like this. Cedi was all over the place and his hustle was infectious! The M.I. A pace came back! It was glorious!!
Windy keeps saying the DeAndre trade was almost done before Cavs did Laker deal… Wonder what the DJ trade looked like? They must have been willing to take Cavs first and expirings instead of Nets pick…
You are happy we took Clarkson and Nance instead, right EG? Based both on the respective contracts and players involved
If we could have gotten Lou Williams and DJ for our first, then I’d prefer that to the Lakers deal.
There is no way in the world that would have happened since they wouldn’t even give DJ for our first. If you are in the pure fantasy zone anyway, how about Durant and Clay for our first?
Huh? That’s not remotely the same thing. And it sounds like the deal involved our own first, so you’re wrong.
Yes, because Clarkson and Nance are both 25 and controllable for a couple of years… DJ wants to get paid, and Lou just signed an extension. Both of those guys are older (DJ 29 and Lou 31). The one thing that might have been different, is that the Cavs would most likely have included TT in the deal to make the money work… so they might have kept Frye.
I am. The Cavs had more problems than needing a big who can opt out after the season. If the DJ trade did not involve the Nets pick, I wonder if it involved Cedi plus a lot more…
Did you guys see the report where we offered the Nets a first for Dinwiddie?
Glad they turned us down as it turned out. But still a sneaky good sabotage move.
Yeah, I’m sure they wanted their own back instead… Hill will be the better playoff tested guard anyway…
Wouldn’t have minded. Was probably a future first.
Cedi is one guy none of the talking heads have mentioned about the trade. Yes, one can analyze the guys we got. But Cedi is another guy we added because he is going to get to play now.
The other thing is that we just got rid of a ton of inefficient chuckers (Wade, IT, Rose, Crowder, & Shump when he played) & those shots should get redistributed to more efficient shooters (Love, Korver, Hill, Hood, JR) or more efficient transition players (Green, Osman, Clarkson, Nance).
I mentioned that before. At the current fast pace games, the average field goal attempts is about 85 shots per team. The Cavs had a bunch of chuckers who thought they were better than they really are (Wade, Shump, Crowder) or were playing for a contract and can only make money with ppg (IT), so they kept shooting even though they had no reason to.
We have traded those players for better shooters and people not trying to prove they still are what they once were. This trade is going to benefit them tremendously.
Talk about someone whose stock has risen rapidly: In the 10 games before Wednesday night, Osman played a total of 17 minutes. Two games later he’s apparently in the rotation to stay, and even starting at least for a little while.
Maybe Altman realized Lue would continue to play guys on reputation over production & just traded all those guys away (Wade, IT, Rose, Crowder). Wonder if Koby told Lue to start Osman.
Kind od like what Billy Beane did in Moneyball.
Maybe that was Altman’s diabolical plan :)Trade all the players Lue played ahead on Cedi. Perhaps Altman and Lue had the proverbial come to the mountain top meeting
Or maybe play the guys you were trying to trade, like any GM would?
Then it backfired. IT, Rose, Shump, value was completely destroyed from the time they were actually played. The more they played the worse they looked and the worse their value. Ironically, Frye who had proved his value again and again via his play sat most of that time in which he could have increased his value even more. Your argument holds no water with regards to the actual reality of what was happening on the court.
Actually, it worked great. Check out the trade last Thursday.
Sure. The trades were great. Could they have been better? Possibly. If Thomas gets limited minutes, maybe the lake show doesn’t see him as much of a liability and settles for a second as opposed to a first.
Also, not playing Frye was indefensible from a basketball standpoint. Would have nothing to do with your theorized scenario. With history and the long view of Lue’s tenure, his rotations in the last few months make complete sense, in that they make zero sense. Rose playing could be explained away, since he had a few sparse moments, but not IT playing a ton or Frye playing so little. Makes zero sense from a front office perspective.
Just incredible… Thibs tryin to collect his entire former Bulls roster… next stop, Jo Noah!
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/962402810913525760
Woj tweeted that the Wizards may be interested due to Wall’s injury…god, that would be hilarious…
I’m guessing Rose is out of the league next year. I could see Wade retiring too, but could see him play one more year.
Rose and IT could have a hell of a rivalry in China next year…
There will be more statues next to Starbury.
He would play another year if they get rid of Dion.
Awesome cap DW! It’s indescribable the contrast between last night’s game and the Tuesday night game in Orlando…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqsT4xnKZPg
https://twitter.com/mcten/status/962394772903268353
Cedi may have Lue’s eye for now…or Altman may be pushing for him…
Or, maybe the trading deadline is past. They weren’t planning to trade Cedi, so there was no reason to showcase him.
How about as a reason to win games?
You might be new to looking at the big picture. But what matters is the team assembled now, AFTER the trade deadline. If they had played Cedi ahead of Thomas and Rose earlier, and they had made a big stink, that might have stopped a trade when a team realized they were getting a crybaby troublemaker.
Don’t be condescending Raul. Sometimes your comments are not in keeping with the good vibe on CtB
Love the starting line up!
So off the bench: Calderon, Hood, Korver, Green, Nance Jr.
– this is a much more balanced roster. Can’t wait for tomorrow nights game.
I think you mean Clarkson, Hood, Korver, Green, Nance Jr.
Yep, just realized that. Forgot about Clarkson.
Swap Hood in for JR and I love it…
I think that will happen after a few games.
Didn’t Ty say yesterday Cedi would be coming off the bench?
So our 2nd five will be: Clarkson, Hood, Korver, Green, & Nance.
At lest each lineup has 2 shooters in it (Hill/JR & Korver/Hood). Plus 2 slashers (James/Osman & Clarkson/Green) and a roll guy (TT/Nash).
Calderon can come in to run the offense if things go haywire.
Wow. Lue still starting Cedi. I like it. Probably because Cedi is at least familiar with the team at this point. That bench lineup could be capable of scoring too.
The Cedi highlights from yesterday are awesome. Dude is a mix of Delly and Varejao. LeBron is gonna love him.
https://youtu.be/seStY_R8HFQ
THE “DRAINO ” COMING OFF THE BENCH IN HIS LAKER DEBUT—-GET USED TO IT DUDE !!
All those coked out celebs are finally going to see some real basketball…
Hey, we’re not all coked out celebs… some of us are just coked out… ;)
You all are going to need the coke to watch IT…
Or a paper bag!
Or a blindfold
Rockets roster: Paul, Harden, Ariza, Anderson, Capela. Gordon, Gerald Green, Mbah a Moute, PJ Tucker, Nene. Now Joe Johnson & Wright.
Nasty top 12 & everyone fits. I think they are the favorites.
Wow. Anyone see Luke kornet’s debut for the Knicks?
https://nypost.com/2018/02/09/knicks-rookie-finally-gets-his-shot-and-refuses-to-waste-it/
Now that was impressive
Wow. The Knicks need a couple more wins. 4 ahead of Nets and no Zinger.
RHJ missing his 8th or 9th game in a row with a groin issue. Nets struggling without him. Hope Cunningham is not ready for this one.
Extra value is what you get when you play Kornet.
(That groaner is for the old-timers here, and Evil the ad fan.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6DSohKp6Fxk
They really could have chosen another color
Nice Phil. The diddy is in my head.
The UniKornet!
That is a keeper.
Joe Johnson apparently signing with Rockets, along with Wright…how the hell are they going to play these guys? I don’t love all their players, but that team is deep…
https://twitter.com/Steve_R_Walker/status/962219869247811584?s=20
https://twitter.com/JasonLloydNBA/status/962200498756562945?s=20
Cedi’s first start: 16 points 6 rebounds 5 assists (2 turnovers) 3 steals 6-9 from the field (67%)
MJ’s first start: 16 points 6 rebounds 7 assists (5 turnovers) 2 steals 5-16 from the field (31%)
We are all witnesses.
Hahahhahaha.. oh I’m definitely sending this to my friends.
Genius!
Green, Korver, & the King were great. TT is improving. Calderon did what Calderon does. But Cedi was the story. 16/6/5 with 3 steals and it could have been 20 pts if he would have made his FTs. I love the factoid that Crowder did not hit that statline all year. Lock Cedi in the gym with Korver to work on that shot. In terms of the lineup, Bron and Hill are locks for now and in the future. I think JR & TT start for now but may get pushed by Hood/Cedi & Nance eventually. Hood likely starts now… Read more »
The fun is back for sure. The defense in this game was actually passable except perhaps for JR get blown by off the dribble. The first game in like forever the Cavs didn’t surrender any 30 point quarters either. I agree with others that before the playoffs JR will be coming off the bench, but still play 20 minutes or so. Loved all the drain/fountain photos and discussion on the live thread. I had mentioned before it seems like the team took a big Shump with a much needed nuclear waste enema. The offense as David mentioned was so much… Read more »
100%. If the 4 new guys never even laced up this Cavs team would play .550 ball until Love gets back. Cedi is the new Varajeo only he can shoot a bit – love that he is always open in the corner. his form isn’t bad. simply playing him will ensure the Cavs play a more uptempo game. the dude was accelerating through defenders while dribbling – and still out himself in position to finish, necessitating a foul. This won’t show up in the box score but I think more than half of Korver’s shots were the result of Jeff… Read more »
I am with all your comments, Tom. I also listened to the Lowe podcast wherein he took the analytics guys to task. Zach is my favorite NBA analyst. And Green indeed has been the surprise pickup of the year given the consistent level at which he has played. I liked that Green called Cedi “….my man.”
Great recap, David! I’m looking forward to a Wood Shop piece on what makes Cedi Osman great
i remember how rewarding it was in 2008 when the Cavs won the gap game between the outgoing and incoming players.
If you allocate significant minutes to Hill, Osman, and Nance, this team will no longer be a bottom of the Harrell defensive team.
very excited about these guys playing uptempo too. Jeff Green and Cedi are demons in transition and of course Nance is going to take our breath away. this team absolutely needs to aggresively go for steals and push off possession changes.
Not knowing the full extent of Wade’s issues here, I’m glad he got a standing ovation back home and had a good game for himself.
Absolutely loving the Miami “Vice Style” jerseys.
Didn’t get to see the game. Sucks I missed such a showing by KK. Glad he’s getting some good minutes – same with Cedi.
JR needs to realize, just like Wade did, that he’s best coming off the bench. Hopefully he’ll come around to it sooner than later.
One of the more memorable games in some years. So much fun.
Wouldn’t be surprised if JR is moved to bench or missing in crunch time of games at the end….figure Hood/Hill will take the spot with Lebron nance Love to close out. TT has been looking decent lately but still when he is alone top of the key the guys just crush him, doesn’t have the speed anymore. One other gripe was Lue not playing the young guys more minutes. The game was over with 5 min left, I doubt those guys would’ve blown a 15 point lead, the Hawks were chucking up shots and hoping they went in. Some Hawks… Read more »
Green basically was left as a point forward a few times while LBJ was out and basically was the only guy in those lineups that could create his own shot/run the offense, which is why I think he had to take some shots he doesn’t normally take.
Yeah but he made more than he missed and bailed the Cavs out at the end of a shot clock too
For sure. He had a great game. Just pointing out the reasons for the isos.
Green was great that game. His shot is really improving.
Lebron taking the HIGH road / mature answer ——-” there is no shade on the guys we just traded “——good for you Lebron —stay classy !!!
bulls beat the timberwolves / Lavine has 35 —-good for the nets pick—might be bad as far as potentially getting lopez at buyout/ bulls may decide to keep him —————–understand with our new players there will be “bumps ” –losses–probably come as soon as the next 2 games —-but if they continue to play with this energy / excitement / enthusiasm —hey that is all we are really asking for
was also thinking about certain nba players fathers —–LONZO / KYRIE ——MAN WHAT A BREATH OF FRESH AIR TO HAVE OL MAN NANCE AROUND —WELCOME BACK !!!!!
SUPER!!!—-that post game interview with cedi was PURITY AT IT’S BEST —-hoping there will be more —–am guilty of “tunnel vision ” of just seeing these new guys playing with LeBron—-due to his injury forget about KLOVE —-his coming back will almost be like having “5” new guys —will be interesting / exciting —also “mr ” Kolby will get a serviceable player at buyout ( we now have FAITH ” in you)————just remember —— DO NOT EVER DRINK DRAINO—ALWAYS DRINK FROM THE FOUNTAIN !!!!!
I don’t care how young and fit you are, if you don’t get run most of the season, and then you get 39 minutes, you are going to get calf cramps. I died laughing when TT went to help Cedi up and Cedi was like “wait dude, cramps”. It was really only at the line that I saw Cedi get in his head a bit with the new minutes. On the floor, he was great. Don’t about his shot. He can shoot and as always had the coast to coast game. That’s his trademark on offense actually. I’m so happy… Read more »
i think managing jr smith out of the lineup into a low minute bench sparkplug guy would be the best thing ty lue could do for this team.
does jr know he cant defend anyone?
Killer recap David. Seriously this was such clean, precise, fluid writing. Kudos, dude. As for this game…good lord. we basically just found out that if we had cut 6 players and gotten nothing in return except keeping our brooklyn pick, we would have improved as a team. Obviously not sustainably improved as everyone had to play the whole game basically…but Cedi Osman is a revelation by comparison to the nonsense we had been watching. I literally forgot what it looked like when an nba player tried that hard and had that much fun. He’s a giant delly in a lot… Read more »
Agree that JR is just not acceptable on defense. He either needs to be better or play less minutes. For a rookie, Cedi was great. He wil make a lot of money in the NBA if he works like a fiend on his shot. He needs to make people defend him on the perimeter. If I were him, I would shoot threes from all over the floor 6 hours a day. He is good enough at other parts of the game. I love how he runs the floor. So refreshening to not have to watch terrible players taking a lot… Read more »
I agree that Cedi has the potential to be really good.