Open Thread: 2020-21 NBA Playoffs, Bonus: Koby Altman speaks
2021-05-30Hello again CtB!
As a bonus to the playoff open thread, here’s a quick recap/analysis of Koby Altman’s lengthy end of season press conference. Let’s dive into the takeaways…
Altman puts lipstick on a pig of a season
The most striking overall impression of the Altman presser was his overwhelmingly positive spin to a terrible 22-50 season that included the loss of the Cavs’ most talented prospect Kevin Porter Jr., and the inability for Altman to successfully handle two of the grizzled veterans on the team, Andre Drummond and Kevin Love. Altman’s optimism was frankly borderline nauseating and patronizing. The reason for such a characterization is because it left the impression of a lack of accountability for the team’s poor performance this year, as well as over the past three years. His optimism also failed to address the fact that they fell short of their own expectations they declared at the beginning of the year, to be in playoff contention. Altman was careful not to declare the season “a success” but was quick with the excuses of injuries and youth for the lack of success. While injuries and youth are reasons why the team didn’t win, there was absolutely no talk of how the organization will be held accountable in the future. Altman simply declared that fans should “be excited” for the future of the team.
Altman hitches his wagon (rightly) to Darius Garland and defends Kevin Love
Altman was effusive in his praise of DG’s play this season, calling DG’s highlights literally “holy shit” moments. DG’s name was repeatedly brought up by Altman, which clearly gave the impression that DG is the current centerpiece of the rebuild. It’s safe to say that Altman’s love for DG served as a complete rebuke of a midseason report by Sam Amico that suggested the Cavs weren’t interested in retaining DG beyond the rookie contract.
Altman also deserves full credit for defending Love against the multitudes of fans calling for a buyout or half-baked trades to get rid of the NBA champion and one of the best players in Cavs’ history. Altman noted that DG was statistically one of the biggest beneficiaries of Love’s presence on the court in the second half of the season. Also Altman shared that Love wasn’t healthy and returned too soon from his calf injury, and discussed improvements to be made regarding how the Cavs think about load management in the future once the NBA schedule normalizes. One of the most interesting comments from Altman regarding Love was about the offseason plan they have in place to return Love to 100% health, including the phrase “weight training.” Hopefully this portends to Love putting on some weight/strength to withstand more minutes in the low post where Love was so dominant in Minnesota.
Altman wants to keep Collin Sexton and Jarrett Allen (but at what cost?)
Altman was clear to imply that they will re-sign Allen once they are able to talk to him, noting that they gave up a first round draft asset to secure his services. Altman also made it known that he’d like to keep Sexton long term. The interesting part of the Sexton and Allen discussion was the measured response from Altman. There were no sweeping declarations that Allen and Sexton are “franchise cornerstones” that would imply a forthcoming max contract extension. Altman played it straight up, saying that he will speak to their agents and negotiate when the time was appropriate.
Altman is looking for “supplemental” vets and “length and athleticism” in the draft
In a question about rebuilding, Altman said that he’s studied the rebuilds of the Phoenix Suns and Atlanta Hawks, noting that both organizations made savvy moves to sign veterans that would help grow their young talent. He’s hoping to do the same thing for the Cavs this year, although he felt that getting Love, Larry Nance Jr., and Taurean Prince would obviously help getting a veteran presence on the court. The most disappointing aspect of Altman’s response to the roster is refusing to acknowledge the dearth of playmaking on the roster. Classifying Young Bull as a dynamic playmaker flies in the face of reality (15.5 assist ratio, NBA average 18.0).
Altman also mentioned that he’s looking to add “length and athleticism” to the roster through the draft. Altman unfortunately is still married to the idea of Sexland being a championship-level tandem. One might also infer that there’s a lack of interest on Altman’s part regarding the talents of guards such as Jalen Suggs or Jalen Green, the former of which would be a serious mistake. But with the offseason still in its infancy, withholding judgment is the appropriate response. But on a talent starved team such as the Cavs, it doesn’t augur well that Altman appears to be pigeon-holing himself into Sexland and/or looking exclusively at wings or bigs.
Shoutout to Kenny Roda
Kenny Roda of 1480 WHBC deserves a shoutout in particular for doing his job and asking the questions that hold Koby Altman accountable for his tenure. Roda’s questions were excellent, seeking the answers that Cleveland Cavalier fans demand. Roda made it worthwhile to check out the hour long press conference, so tip of the cap to Mr. Roda.
Brooks completely wastes a timeout, wonder if that’ll come back to bite them.
Feel like sixers should close this out, but wizards hanging around, finding a way to grift buckets.
I think the Sixers will win… can’t see the Wizards getting over the hump
Man, hard foul on Simmon….there’s hacking, then there’s rugby.
Hawks-Knicks looking like it’s going to be good…Randle still looks kind of lost, though…
“Champ” James Jones light years ahead:
https://twitter.com/AleCozz1/status/1333028820295819264?s=20
I GUESS THEY FIGURED IN “ESSENCE ” HE REALLY DIDN’T COACH THE CAVS :-)
John Beilein has been hired by the Detroit Pistons as ‘senior advisor of player development’ — the press release makes no mention of his time coaching Cleveland’s NBA team
Best not to…
Big mistake not to publicize his glorious run with the Cavs.
IIRC, wasn’t someone around here SUPER down on Trae Young? Well, the Hawks may be looking at an ECF run with Embiid out.
With Reddish out and Hunter merely OK, Young + the vets (Boggy, Capela, etc) are the drivers. Young has really leveled up this year in terms of leveraging his shooting and making better decisions.
I guess. I mean the east outside of Brooklyn is garbage. Memphis could get to the ECF.
Yup, looking like Trae Young and Deandre Ayton making the 2nd round before Luka!!! LMFAOOOO (before someone gets pissy, ATL/PHX rosters >>>>>>>> DAL)
Hunter’s maybe a bit better than just OK, he was really good before the injury, esp defensively (top 50 defensive EPM), and his shooting splits were great too despite being below average from 3. Has time to add that 3ball too.
Regarding the C’s:
Is Tree Rollins still alive? I’d pay to see him “continue” some past conversations with Ainge. Ainge was a whiny brat as a player (but good shooter). He mistreated his players as a GM (IT). And his blatant lying about players experiencing racism in Boston was worthy of getting canned for. 2008 and even the fleecing the Nets was a long time ago.
All his extra draft capital is gone. And aside from Robert Williams and an increasingly gimpy Kemba, there is not much help for Tatum & Brown.
totally agree with NOMAD we need EG write up on Stevens news today haha
Cant believe that guy was ‘stressed out’ as coach and is now taking on bigger role with more responsibility…and stress
WE NEED EVIL’S ” PRES PICTURE ” POINTING TO HIMSELF
Unless you leverage your scoring to make plays for your teammates, then you’re not a playmaker, just a scorer.
https://twitter.com/msinger/status/1400108136787189760?s=20
I hope President of Basketball Operations Stevens has the courage to bring in Drummond, and pay him what he deserves. No more lowball nonsense.
Jason Kidd one of the names in the Celtics coach mix. Oh god, please make it so. He’s waited too long for another shot. Mark Jackson should be considered, too, imo.
Wow, what a shark show.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1400094894551617545?s=21
I think it was a good move…. Celtics fans split.
Depends on who they hire as coach. Hope for Celtics fans’ sake it’s a home run hire like Kidd or Mark Jackson.
So how long is Dame gonna be with Blazers?
Work starting to interfere with my NBA time… lotta replays to get through! Sounds like a great night of action.
Whaaaaaat….Denver shot 50 points in the first 15 minutes! And yet Blazers caught them to force OT. Incredible game.
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO Simmo you gotta scout that Josh Giddey kid for us!!!
I’ve spoken to him & he’s all in on the 216 ;)
*fire emojis****
Wild stuff tonight.I would say Phoenix came ready to play.Chris Paul probably didn’t need to be out there (up by 30) maybe getting hurt.Drummond doesn’t seem to fit, and Lillard was fire.
great night of ball!!!
LeBron walking back to the locker room with 5 minutes left LMFAOOOO
He can’t win with those cats…
serves him right to hitch his wagon to ADisney!!!
https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/1399940384608845824?s=20
Looks like it’s bench time…
2nd OT for the Blazers-Nuggets…seriously?
Lillard being superman…
Lillard just broke Klay Thompson’s 3 point playoff record
I hope they win at this point…he deserves the W…
Uh oh, looks like CP3 may7 have reinjured the neck/ shoulder, which makes one wonder, why tf was he still out there?
yeah, that sucks…
Wow, Blazers going to OT…
Thinking Lebron may get himself in ‘foul trouble’ quick in this one…
Wish I could see the Blazers-Nuggets game…going down to the wire…
same… lost NBA TV going from Spectrum to Xfinity
game recognizes game:
https://twitter.com/JaMorant/status/1399918077823774724?s=20
Boy talk about embarrassing for LAL. Can’t say I am not enjoying this. AD being out isn’t 30 points down in the first half of an impact.
Would be nice to see the nets lose before reaching the finals but I doubt it’ll happen barring injuries to at least two of the three stars.
I may be enjoying this a little too much, but so be it.
The Lakers are all about LeBron and AD, without both of them they’re hapless.
What are the Lakers doing? This is why they signed Drummond. Let him eat.
GOT DAMN SUNS!!!!!!!!!
Time to hand the keys to Kieff and Drummond and ride them.
Suns Jazz WCF let’s goooooooo
Lbj has to take over this game for lakers to have a chance. Without another star we’ll see if he is capable or willing to try anymore. No one to take pressure off.
Don’t think he can. Definite Lebron and the Lebronettes vibe to this. Suns by 21.
Payne clowning these bums…
14 points in 7 minutes LMFAOOO
uh Cam Payne just blew by and finished over LeBron LMFAOOOO
This is like game 1 Booker…
holy crap Cam Payne!!!
Frank the Tank has no business playing in this series…
Booker looks like he wants this…
damn, he and Payne are lighting it up!!
It’s your time3, Kieff. You need to take at least 30 shots tonight.
I don’t know how, but the Blazers got to within 3 at the half. They were down 20+ early…
WTF.
https://twitter.com/Ryan_Mourton/status/1399883975020232704?s=20
nice, sucks he didn’t work out for the Cavs but he knows ball.
When is the lotto? Is it usually during the Finals? Playoffs for sure.
June 22nd, 830PM
Re idiot fans causing problems — check out the film of an NFL game when Mike Ditka was a tight end and in a huddle. Some clown goes running right down the middle of the field. As he approaches the huddle, Ditka looks up, takes one step, and whacks him. He looked like he was dead. My recollection is that they carried him off on a stretcher.
Too many hero heaves for the Griz late
Bogdonavic the iceman once again.
Nice game wiz. Bright future on that squad
Westbrick limits their upside. And they don’t defend for beans. But Russ’ intensity & Beal’s scoring give them a good shot to beat mediocre teams and a puncher’s chance vs good ones. Claasic 7,8,9,10 team in conference.
JV continues to get abused on defense in the PnR coverages.
Utah running the same play over and over LMFAOOOO
Hack-A-Ben FTW!!
Might as well. Worked out well for them, too.
A+ choke job by Ben!!!
I see I should have patented “Hack-A-Ben”, Fox Sports running it in their headlines already.
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1399543183965622272?s=20
Careful Nate, Cavs twitter thinks Koby has hit every pick!!! LMFAOOO
Sure, but a lot of other teams could have drafted him, too. Impossible to hit on all these later in the draft guys.
This is true. Hindsight is…..
Agreed — still think it is funny that Koby’s first mention of Windler at his presser was to throw him in at the end of a list of ‘injured vets’ who can help Cleveland win. What? I still of course hope he is Duncan Robinson 2.0 next year but golly
Hackaben seems to be working
Crucial challenge- Doc wins!
Neto huge triple to put wiz up 3
I’ll say this – the game is a lot more exciting than the previous three…
Didnt even watch
Lot of guys ballin’ in the POs. Lillard. Luka. Tatum. My top 5 woukd be:
Player: PPG/RPG/APG. TS%. FG%/3PT%/FT%.
5. Ja. 33.7/3.7/6. 60.1%. 51.4/26.7/78.1.
4. KD. 34.8/8.3/3. 69.6%. 55.6/45.5/90.7.
3. Jokic. 31/11/3. 63.4%. 53.9/45.5/90.0.
2. Embiid. 29.3/7/2.7. 78.4%. 67.4/54.5/87.
1. Kawhi. 33/8.5/3.8. 74.1%. 62.7/47.6/87.5.
Well gotta hand it to the Clips. Statement game. Noone laughing at them now.
Hard to expect the Mavs to continue the ridiculous shooting. Kawhi really has been lights out, arguably the best player in the playoffs so far. With Luka a bit banged up, seems like the Clips might win in six. But we’ll see what Doncic has in the tank.
And PG has been huge. Feel like he knows his reputation is on the line. It’s been fascinating series.
Feels like Nets v Clips.
Philly and Milwaukee have shots. Losing Donte hurts the Bucks.
Not gonna count LAL out yet. IDK if LeBron has top gear anymore with that ankle (or at his age). He needed to play like Kawhi did with AD out & went really passive. Utah has a shot. Suns too if CP3 is full go.
IMHO Milwaukee out of the East, don’t think Nets can handle them in a series. The West is a crapshoot right now.
THANK YOU CLF——HOPE ALL ARE ENJOYING THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND !!!!——–I GUESS KOBY IS SAYING WHAT ALL G.M.’S ARE “SUPPOSED TO SAY “—–BEING POSITIVE /// EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE / BLAH / BLAH / BLAH —-HE DID ‘DODGE ” THE TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT PORTER /DRUMMMOND SAYING THEY WEREN’T QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED // ANSWERED ” AT THIS MEDIA FORUM ” …………..” THE BEAT GOES ON…….THE BEAT GOES ON “————-” MORE BEER PLEASE “——–STAY SAFE HAVE FUN EVERYONE !!!!
you’re welcome as always NOMAD!
Enjoy the holiday weekend NOMAD!!!
Loved the writeup Chris!
What’s the latest on Doncic, is he out tonight?
Thank you Simmo! Trying to keep up with you! LMFAO
Woj reporting he’s a go tonight.
good for the hawks.. well-balanced team.. nicely constructed.. built up to code.. nails, screws, etc.. no chewing gum, duct tape and string..
trouble in La-La.. whazup with brow ?
groin pull, depends on how bad it is… but if it’s bad, could be out awhile
Thank you SO much for such a candid article! These last 2 days have been utterly nauseating. The Cavs organization needs to get rid of Altman asap!! He is the one that brought in that college coach with a 2 PG system to begin with!! They have been protecting Garland and putting down Sexton!! Sexton should be the focal point. I wouldn’t care if Hartenstien started, Allen isn’t that great. Garland is a 2nd team PG that shouldn’t be played next to Sexton. We need a real starting SG, perhaps Okorro. Love needs out too! Over half the roster should… Read more »
These are some takes, all right.
You’re welcome Richard, thanks for reading!
100% agree, ready to move on from Altman.
Would disagree on DG, but I mentioned on the last podcast episode that they missed a chance just give another year to Sexton to start at PG and collect more data, but as Eli and Nate mentioned, he didn’t play the position well when he did have his chances. But i think they probably should’ve tried it again this year to see if he could make the leap.
Sexton is, was, and will continue to be a terrible PG. His court vision is terrible. And he’s a ball-hog at heart.
He probably did not even notice he didn’t have 4 teammates that game in college. ;)
Plus, modeling team-building on Portland, who have accomplished nothing, and not come close to accomplishing anything, is beyond stupid.
We are a poor team with poor talent coached by a below average coach and run by a delusional GM with an owner who is willing to spend, but creates a dysfunctional organization.
And most of our better players are injury prone.
I don’t need a magic 8 ball to see how next season will go.
no question Jason lmfaoooo everybody knows where I stand, but objectively speaking there’s still another year before a decision has to be made regarding Sexton.
I will never get over SGA over Sexton, that decision convinces me that Koby doesn’t have the best eyes for evaluating talent. The tape was obviously in favor of SGA.
Good comedy — Jabari Parker checking Durant…Celtics would do just as well to put a chair on the court for KD to beat off the dribble…
Hope all those amazing Laker fans in their high dollar seats enjoyed the game.
Laker fans deserve all the slander!!! LMFAOOO
BTW, agree 100% on your take on Altman’s presser.
Appreciate it Jason! Good to know I’m not on an island looking too crazy LMFAOOOO
Big 3 for Crowder. He’s actually hit a few today, after bumming it up the last two games…
He actually went to the rim & made a couple layups. Seeing the ball go through the hoop a couple times helps. As does having a lead instead of being behind.
Lakers had 2 chances down 7. TO + a missed layup. Crowder 3 = game over.
Figures today is the day Gasol decides to hit every three he takes…
LMFAOOO the Gasol saga has been an intriguing one for the Lakers.
Sign him only to replace him with Dre LMFAOO
Looks like CP3 is back!!! that’s huge
Better anyway. At the end of Q3 he had to underhand a heave from halfcourt. If he is healthy, no way he goes underhand.
oh dang, LMFAOO didn’t know about that heave, hopefully he’ll continue to progress and we’ll get a great series.
Lakers within 10. Bron energized by a non-flagrant call.
Thanks Chris. Good to hear he values DG. To me, DG and Okoro are absolutely untouchables.
Suns getting Paul back in none too soon…felt like Payne was enjoying his own smell a bit much the last few possessions…
You’re welcome of course. Yeah, he definitely made it a point repeat DG’s name.
Really excited to see the improvement Okoro makes, and also if they use him properly.