Pre-Season Live Thread: Cavs @ Hawks (or, Deep Thoughts by CLF)
2023-10-10Good evening CtB!
The Cavs have finally made it to the 2023-24 NBA season calendar with their first pre-season game against the Atlanta Hawks in the heart of the Georgia Piedmont at State Farm Arena. After falling flat on their face in the playoffs, the Cavs have had all off-season to stew about what went wrong against New York. The conclusion they’ve appeared to reach is that their star players just need to play better. Donovan Mitchell said as much, in response to a question from Jason Lloyd at Cavs’ Media Day, Mitchell said, “I missed shots I could’ve made, DG [Darius Garland] did too…” referencing the playoff flameout. Evan Mobley said his off-season focus was “a lot of different aspects to my offensive side of the game…” Cavs’ President of Basketball Operations Koby Altman was focused on the offense as well, adding sharp shooters Georges Niang, Max Strus, Ty Jerome and drafting Emoni Bates to create more space for Spida, DG, Mobley, and JA. The open question left after this offseason for the Cavs to answer: who’s going to rebound??? Stay tuned…
Deep Thoughts on Koby:
The only bad vibe emanating from Cavs’ Media Day was Koby Altman’s recent DUI arrest, which was the elephant in the room he refused to talk about and media members shrugged off. It’s hilarious to see Altman wax poetic about character and accountability when it appears there were/are no public consequences from the team for Altman’s dipshittery. A millionaire who can’t afford a cab ride is never a good look, and that’s being charitable. But yours truly believes in second chances, so if there’s true remorse Altman’s part and everybody’s on board then carry the hell on…
Deep Thoughts on the trades:
Count me among those that enjoyed the Miami Heat striking out on Damian Lillard. I think all parties involved made out well, except for the Heat and Portland Trailblazers, but the Blazers did a pretty nice job on the Jrue Holiday trade to make up for it. All the pressure is on the Celtics and Bucks now, hopefully the Cavs can enter the realm of the contenders.
Deep Thoughts on J.B. Bickerstaff
Coach J.B. Bickerstaff had a clearly commanding presence alongside Altman at Media Day, and it came across as though he’s the clear leader of the organization. He’s said all the right things in terms of how to improve the offense this offseason with off-ball movement and less pick and roll. However, the problem with J.B. isn’t necessarily his playcalling it’s his stubborn insistence on playing non-shooters all over the floor, constantly. Rumors are Max Strus will start instead of Isaac Okoro, but how long will that last? At least Lamar Stevens has been banished to Beantown, but does Niang or “James” Dean Wade stay glued to the bench for Tristan Thompson or Damian Jones??? Perish the thought! Here’s one last thought, LET ISAIAH MOBLEY COOK!!!
Deep Thoughts on the JA injury
While the injury to JA is devastating news, the blessing in disguise is presumably more Evan Mobley center minutes or more creative small ball lineups to workshop early in the season. This was something missing from the Cavs’ toolkit against the Knicks to force MitchRob or Hard Rock out of the paint and adjust to the Cavs instead of vice versa. As such I’m prepared for a healthy dose of Jones/Thompson/Okoro or Mobley/Jones/Thompson minutes because J.B.’s gonna J.B.
Deep Thoughts on the Hawks…
The Hawks will be an interesting watch this season. I didn’t like the John Collins trade, and De’Andre Hunter is the new albatross contract, but they drafted a few guys I like and still have some interesting pieces. Also, year two for Quin Snyder’s system and yours truly can see how this will be a bounce back season for Atlanta. If it goes sideways, will Trae Young be on the trade market? #EarlySlop
Finally, apologies to the Commentariat!
Hopefully there will be a ramping up of some content as the season starts up, but thanks for sticking around and keeping the train rolling, GO CAVS!
It’s just occurred to me that we won’t be seeing Cedi out there…
He is gonna be on TV all the time with Wemby… Some birds aren’t meant to be caged.
Another ice dime.
Ice Ice Baby!
Okoro has been fantastic tonight.
Super composed.
Why is Merrill passing to Wade at mid court.
TT’s screens setting up Merrill
My preseason prediction is that the Celtics are making the finals. That Holiday pick up was huge.
my prediction also. Cavs got a prayer too.
Would love to see Bates
AGREE ON MINUTES FOR ELDER MOBES
Cavs Legend Tristan Thompson
Merrill… smh
TT’s time to shine. If he can give them 10 minutes of this two nights a week, I’ll be happy.
God I wanna see. Mobes the Elder, cause Jones sucks.
He’s better than I thought he’d be but yeah….
ARCH DO YOU THINK TT FILLS THAT VOID
No he’s washed.
Agree
WTF Sam.
Okoro another nice feed.
Cavs need to be active in trying to trade for a rebounder by AS break.
Okoro the class of this lineup
KEEP BRINGING IT ICE
SAM MY MAN OUCH BOTH SHOTS LOOKED WEAK
Ice bringing it in the second half.
I CAN SHOOT BETTER 3s THAN WHAT THE CAVS ARE SHOOTING TONIGHT
WE ARE IN TROUBLE OF JB S COMMENTS ON JEROME WERE HONEST —-“ TY IS PROBABLY HAVING THE BEST CAMP OUT OF ANY PLAYER /—- WILL BE HARD TO KEEP HIM OFF THE COURT ——- WITH 4 FOULS IN ABOUT 4 MINUTES HE WILL TAKE HIMSELF OFF THE FLOOR
Ok first half, missed lots of open 3s. Still getting dominated on the boards.
TY Jerome is terrible.
Honestly do not see the point in launching shots from logo in preseason.
Johnson gets a big offensive rebound because Max Strus doesn’t know how to box out.
Dumb foul
LIKE WHAT I SEE FROM E JONES SO FAR
You spoke too soon.
Cavs missing a lot of open treys
Too flat Mobley. But great block.
Lol. Trey couldn’t shake Niang.
Mobley just worked okongwu
What is this lineup.
Nice read Caris
Always enjoyed Niang’s on-court demeanor. A competitor.
Young flopped out of his shoe.
Lol. Waited to see if it went in before they blew the whistle.
Had some TV issues. Hopefully fixed!
Bang bang.
Trey not hunting fouls for once. A nice pre-season treat.
Too unfit to roll out his complete game 😂
LEVERT MIGHT HAVE BEEN OUR BEST FREE AGENT SIGNING
LET CARIS COOK!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the way Strus and Ty are moving on defense. Mobley’s turnaround looked great — more arc!
Cavs hanging in despite misses all kinda open 3s. Garland not finding the range at all.
SNYDER WILL HAVE THE HAWKS PLAYING BETTER THIS YEAR
CARIS LEVERT = CLUTCH
Cavs are missing WIDE OPEN 3s right now
Thats ok though because they are WIDE open
true
Turnaround J smooth as butter
DARIUS GARLAND CHASE DOWN BLOCK LETS GOOOOOOOO
Go Cavs!!!
I’m getting 3fps.Its horrible.
MOBLEY FADEAWAY SPLASH
MOBES STILL NEEDS 15 MORE LBS OF MUSCLE—-BE A BEAST
He may never. Kind of reminds me of Kareem’s body type.
ANYONE HEAR ANYMORE ON RUBIO S STATUS. ANY OPINIONS ON IF HE WILL COME BACK OR NOT
my guess is no. hopefully the Cavs can use the contract in a trade.
NICE PASS CARIS
JUST SHOOT THE THREE SPIDA
LET CARIS COOK
WHAT A PASS MITCHELL
Anyone else’s feed total garbage?
PUKE TRAE SHOOTING FOULS ALREADY
Attaway Max
STRUS IS FOR US
STRUS IS LOOSE!
SPIDA DEFENSE
Ahhhhh Cavs. Yessir, let’s go!
WOULD LIKE TO SEE A”ELDER “ MOBES HAVE A PRESEASON SIMILAR TO HIS SUMMER LEAGUE
The real season is just around the corner. Wow.
Let’s hope JB doesn’t find ways to sabotage himself and the team with non-shooters and playing the starters playoff minutes from the start.
Will be in & out during the game, not ideal but pumped the team is back in action!
Go Cavs!
Let’s GOOO!
Interested to see the team vibe tonight. Will TT be the new bench cheerleader?
So many subplots to start.
How long is JA out? I thought it was only a couple of weeks?
The concern is that he is being “re-evaluated” in two weeks. Think it’s described as a bone bruise, which can really vary on severity and how long it takes to come back. I’m just regurgitating things I’ve heard, I don’t know crap about it lol.
It’s an ankle bone bruise. The release said “will evaluate in 2 weeks” which I think means is totally on ice for 2 weeks, and then they’ll start a count down, but that will probably be at least 2 more weeks and possibly more.