Eastern Conference Offseason Primer Part Two
2015-07-02Cory Hughey and David Wood teamed up to breakdown the Eastern Conference teams’ needs in free agency. Click on the team names to see a detailed break down of their contract situations.
I feel a lot better now that Kevin Love has pretty much re-signed with the Cavs. I often acted like I didn’t want him back, but I really just didn’t want to be disappointed. I also loved Kevin Pelton’s Love piece. In short, he said Love was part of both the best defensive and offensive units the Cavs had this season. To celebrate the Love news, I made a dinner that symbolizes Cleveland, and why Love probably came back. I cooked some good old beef hot dogs in beer (Busch Light, if you were wondering) and then whipped up a gastrique sauce with oranges. I’m a chef, sort of.
The point is that a gastrique is supposed to be uppity and hot dogs are the steak of the poor. However, it must also be noted that hot dogs are still delicious. The above meal defines Cleveland. We are a city that knows how to appreciate the finest things in life, but doesn’t decide to be defined or controlled by them. Clevelanders just enjoy what’s delicious.
My sister lives on the West Coast and many of my college friends do too, Los Angeles to be specific. It’s a different world there. People who aren’t girls do yoga, and they have pizza that’s just bread with broccoli on it, aka liar pizza. In Los Angeles/the West Coast, I don’t think a hot dog has been eaten unironically in years, unless you count the ones devoured by tourists who line up at Pink’s Hot Dogs. That’s a tough life to live and Kevin’s choice today showed that he wants to enjoy finely sauced hot dogs without feeling shame. I don’t blame him. Now, here’s a former Angelino to discuss some free agency stuff.
Brooklyn Nets (Cory Hughey)
Draft Selections:
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (23rd via Portland), SF Arizona
Chris McCullough (29th), PF Syracuse
Cap Room: The NBA always has a character like Nets GM Billy King, and that’s one of the many reasons that the league tells a better story than any other pro sport. A cat running a team in a cosmopolitan market, whose owner has made a mandate to win now at all costs, and it cripples the franchise for a decade. King mortgaged the future to pay for the present two years ago, and it didn’t work, and it’s gonna get worse, much, much worse. The Nets are a fringe playoff team that will be deep into the luxury next year. If they renounced all of their cap holds (Brook Lopez, Thaddeus Young, Mirza Teletovic, Jerome Jordan) they would only have $3.6 million in cap space. The rooks along with Lopez and Young back on board only puts them at eleven guys. Even filling out the rest of the roster with minimums will push them towards being $20 million into the luxury tax.
Yahoo Sources: The Nets have agreements now: Thad Young (4 years, $50M) and Brook Lopez (3 years, $60M). Both deals w/ player option.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2015
Story going online now: ESPN sources say Nets and Grizzlies recently discussed a Joe Johnson-to-Memphis trade
— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 29, 2015
Free Agents to Take Down the Cavs:
If the Nets signed The Human Torch, Mister Fantastic, Susan Storm, and the Thing to deals, they wouldn’t be able to take a game from the Cavs in the first round next season, because they won’t make the playoffs. With Miami and Indiana’s return to health, along with the growth spurt the Magic should experience in the standings, I can’t see a way that the Nets make the playoffs. The worst part? Brooklyn owes it’s unprotected first round pick to the Celtics next season from the Garnett and Pierce deal (both long gone). In case you missed it, owner Mikhail Prokorov stated he would punish himself by getting married if the team didn’t win a title by 2015. I LOVE IT!
Charlotte Hornets (David Wood)
Draft Selections:
Frank Kaminsky (9th), C Wisconson
Juan Pablo Vaulet (39th), SF Argentina
Cap Room: With Al Jefferson accepting his player option of $13.5 million, the Hornets are tapped out financially. The Hornets did not extend a qualifying offer to shotblocker Bismack Biyombo.
Free Agents to Take Down Cavs: The Hornets have made moves already. They traded away locker room joker Lance Stephenson and added Nicolas Batum for essentially just Gerald Henderson and Noah Vonleh. Batum adds some 3-point shooting, which Charlotte needs after ranking last in the league for 3-point percentage. Pairing Batum with Kemba Walker and MGK will create a formidable defensive set of wings and backcourt players.
Charlotte drafted Frank Kaminsky, who should help spread the floor from the 4 and 5 spots. When he gets paired with Cody Zeller, the Hornets will have a distinct advantage. This pairs’ height, extreme whiteness, and awkwardness will create a spectacle no team will be able to look away from, so there will be lots of open layups to be had. Michael Jordan knows what he’s doing.
The Hornets ranked ninth in defensive efficiency this past season and developed a system where everyone, even defensive minuses like Al Jefferson, could succeed. If the Hornets can maintain this defense, and keep developing guys’ shots, they’ll be a decent team. MGK attempted zero 3s last season, and Cody needs eight more feet of range to change his long 2s into 3s. So in free agency Charlotte should go after the best shooting coach they can buy.
Chicago Bulls (Cory Hughey)
Draft Selections:
Bobby Portis (22nd), PF Arkansas
Cap Room:
Yahoo Sources: Chicago Bulls, Mike Dunleavy agree to $14.4 million deal. http://t.co/Ral1AGmfbB
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2015
Jimmy Butler, Chicago Bulls finalizing a five-year, $95M maximum contract with player option after four years, league sources tell Yahoo.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 1, 2015
The Bulls could have had Jimmy Butler locked up last year for $13 million a season or so. They chose to give him the qualifying offer instead. Now they are on the hook for an average of $19 million per season. I’m assuming both Butler and Dunleavy’s contracts are descending so they are probably slightly lower next season than the average per season over the life of the deals. With a rough estimate of $22 million next season for Butler, Dunleavy and rookie Bobby Portis, that would put the Bulls around $86 million for 12 players. Even if they filled the other three spots with rookie minimums they would still be over five million into the luxury tax. It’s possible they will look for a cash dump of one of their bigs to dodge the tax. The Bulls could be a cap bully like the Lakers and New York teams, but they’ve chosen for years to be a luxury tax lamb.
Free Agents to Take Down Cavs: I might sounds Cols-ian, but if the fairly healthy Bulls of last season couldn’t take down the Love-less, Varejao-less and basically Kyrie-less Cavs, they don’t scare me at all. If MJ and Scottie resigned on vet minimum deals, they wouldn’t beat the Cavs in a series. They won’t have Thibs running them into the ground during the regular season, which is a plus. He was a great coach at a standings glance, but his teams were always running on fumes by the second round of the playoffs.
Indiana Pacers (David Wood)
Draft Selections:
Myles Turner (11th), C Texas
Joseph Young (43rd), PG Oregon
Cap Room: Since Roy Hibbert opted into his $15.5 million player option, and David West declined his $12.6 player option, the Pacers have $15,563,258 to play with if they renounce the rights to all of their guys. That likely isn’t happening, but I still can’t imagine them extending Luis Scola his $6,650,000 qualifying offer. Cap guru Nate Duncan estimates Indiana will have about $11 milllion to play with.
Free Agents to Take Down Cavs: The Pacers are in a spot similar to the Knicks. The front office wants the team to remain competitive, but it is probably in the organization’s best interest to develop young players. With David West leaving, the Pacers now have a 250 pound hole at the power forward/tough man spot, but there is a solution to that, which we’ll get to later. With Roy Hibbert opting in, the Pacers still have a defensive anchor, but they aren’t really sure he is worth his offensive ineffectiveness in a faster league and are shopping him. The Pacers drafted young big Myles turner and will probably play him at the 4 and 5 spots to see what he can bring; however, he is years away from being a game changer.
Luis Scola is a great competitor and a Larry Bird favorite, but he probably doesn’t want to take a discount to play on a rebuilding team and to teach guys verticality. Rodney Stuckey is also a Bird dude, but he has played himself into a sixth man contract worth $5+ million. He averaged 12.6 points per game off the bench last year.
If the Pacers want to remain competitive and still build, they should look at some absolute shameless pure scorers to compliment their consistent defense. Louis Williams of Toronto (15.5 ppg) comes to mind. Monta Ellis is being talked with currently. If he comes in under $9 million per year and would consider coming off of the bench (he demands the ball so much), he’d work out. While losing West at the 4-spot seems like a hit, the Pacers could play Paul George there for some minutes, CJ Miles at the three, and a random 3-jacker at shooting guard. As always, a Hibbert trade could net them a few game influencers, not game changers though. However, that might be enough in the East though if Paul George progresses his game a bit more.
Orlando Magic (David Wood)
Draft Selections:
Mario Hezonja (5th), SF Spain
Tyler Harvey (51st), PG Eastern Washington
Cap Room: The Magic have $16,128,073 to spend after giving qualifying offers to Tobias Harris, Kyle O’Quinn, and Willie Green.
Free Agents to Take Down Cavs: Looking over the Magic’s roster one thing is really apparent. This team has a ton of rookie contract guys, and if they’re able to build anything decent, the league best watch out because everyone can be locked up whether they like it or not. The Magic backcourt of Elfrid Payton and Victor Oladipo is very athletic and they’ll be defensive stoppers as they master the NBA game. The frontcourt duo of Channing Frye, Andrew Nicholson, and Nikola Vucevic are offensive studs; however, they’re sieves on defense. The other Magic front court guys, Kyle O’Quinn and Aaron Gordon, are all defense guys. No one on the team is multi-dimensional, and the defenders aren’t efficient enough yet for the offense guys create to mean anything.
If the defense can imrpove to league average under Scott Skiles, draft pick Mario Hezonja can make a huge impact. Mario is described as a ballsy and super confident scorer who can make the 3-ball and take guys off the dribble. He will add the complete offensive player the Magic need and should pair nicely with Vucevic to carry the team’s scoring duties. Orlando tried to pry Paul Millsap away from the Hawks, but they failed. They had the right idea with that move. They need a complete player who is a veteran to usher along the team’s development. David West would be an amazing grab for the Magic, and they should be willing to overpay for him. West’s scary presence would terrify the team into defending, and I’m sure he could teach the young guys how to win. If the Magic totally strike out, they can always look to package a few extra young guys for a disgruntled vet.
Philadelphia 76ers (Cory Hughey)
Jahlil Okafor was ret' to go pic.twitter.com/6d8NuSq5Lo #76ers
— Michael Lee (@MrMichaelLee) June 28, 2015
Joel Embiid was amused by the 76ers drafting another big man. That & more NBA draft reaction: http://t.co/Oi5Kd0YFAT pic.twitter.com/OAPV2ennbO
— ESPN (@espn) June 26, 2015
Draft Selections:
Jahlil Okafor (3rd), C Duke
Richaun Holmes (37th), SF Bowling Green
Arturas Gudaitis (47th), C Lithuania
J.P. Tokoto (58th), SF North Carolina
Luka Mitrovic (60th), PF Serbia
Cap Room: They’ll have around $52 million next season, and $12 million of that will be dead money from JaVale McGee. That total includes the cash dump they took from the Kings last night in adding Carl Landry ($6.5 million), Jason Thompson ($6.4 million), and Nik Stauskas ($2.8 million).
Free Agents to Take Down Cavs:
This question seriously doesn’t apply. I will defend them though. They were stuck in mediocrity for half a decade. The Nets went all in for nothing and their future is more pathetic than Andy Dick throwing up on the floor at a Jewish deli bar at 11 in the morning. You can always sell the future to a fan base for a couple years, and they are entering year four. That’s the breaking point. On the plus side, they have an A$$<%@? of assets going forward and Noel is blossoming into what a lot of us on this very blog were salivating for before the 2013 draft. He’s a defensive monster, and he’s only going to get better. I wasn’t against the Okafor selection either with the recent news about Embiid’s foot not progressing as expected. Okafor’s game might be old school, but I’m not against zigging, while the rest of the league zags. If Okafor develops as expected, he will absolutely abuse small ball finesse lineups. If Noel and Saric, Embiid, or Okafor hit their potential, they’ll be two fifths of their way to being vicious, with $40 million in cap room and a full draft pick war chest. The bummer of it all, other than the fans having to see another 50 losses, is that of the three center prospects on the roster, Embiid had the highest ceiling. If the foot were never an issue, he’d probably be a Cav.
Washington Wizards (David Wood)
Draft Selections:
Kelly Oubre (15th, via Atlanta), SG Kansas
Aaron White (49th), PF Iowa
Cap Room: The Wizards have zero money to spend this offseason once they sign Kelly Oubre. They have negative money to deal with if they extend qualifying offers to Kevin Serpahin ($7,407,517 ), Rasual Butler ($947,276), and Drew Gooden ($947,276).
Free Agents to Take Down Cavs:
Paul Pierce signed a 3 year deal will the Clippers! Welcome to the family! Beyond excited for next season! #GearUpLA pic.twitter.com/zRyYQ8xWCy
— Los Angeles Clippers (@LAC__Nation) July 1, 2015
The Wizards moved into modern day times just at the start of the playoffs. All their long 2s morphed into timely 3s. They took the Hawks to six games in the Eastern Conference semi-finals. And, if Paul Pierce had released his 3-pointer a second sooner in game six, the Wizards would have taken the Hawks to overtime and had a chance for a game seven.
The Wizards have much of their team under contract for next season. However, the really important guy who hit a game winner for them in the playoffs, Paul Pierce, declined his player option. And, he is now headed to the Los Angeles Clippers. The Wizards did move up in the draft to take small forward Kelly Oubre who will be a 3-and-D guy, but Oubre isn’t ready to start at the 3 spot. Again, Pierce returning to mentor that kid would have only helped the Wizards. Martell Webster just isn’t the same type of veteran as The Truth. And, that’s the truth right there.
And, finally, the Wizards haven’t offered young French center Seraphin a qualifying offer yet. Serpahin needs to stay in Washington. Nene and Gortat are both over thirty now, and Seraphin projects to be a decent post threat and defender in more minutes. He held opponents’ shots at the rim to 47.1%. That’s Mozgovian. And, as Cavs fan know, he can get his blocks, o-boards, and flashy hooks when given minutes. If he leaves, the Wizards are probably stuck with stretch-4 (I say that with only a slight smirk) Drew Gooden and no longer have a snake owner on the team.
The Wizards won’t make a splash this offseason. That’s okay though, because the pool they’re sitting in is calm, and that’s sometimes exactly what is needed for a young team.
Any news about JR?…….
https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/617086892543242241
Thanks a lot Nate!! I hope they keep him. Continuity is key to win a championship.
Sacramento is now officially the Island of Misfit Toys…
Tooo funny , props for the creativity
What was the one from South Park? With Sexual Harassment Panda?
If I’m The Mavs, I’m going hardhafter after Kendall Marshall and/or Sergio Rodriguez.
I need league pass this upcoming season so I can watch the Kings.
I found this tweet hilarious :
Patrick Beverly resigned w/ Rockets? Phil Jackson lost 90% of his free agents. Will have to bring the band back : Lin, Lee… Novak? #knicks
Don’t forget Landry Fields!!!
@SpearsNBAYahoo: Rondo signs one-year deal with Kings
Cue George Karl head explosion in 3…2…1…
Hope he’s not planning on running the GK system. Like Lebron, Rondo is gonna run what Rondo wants to run. Unfortunately, Rondo sucks.
Cousins and Rondo….new heights of team dysfunction headed George Karl’s way.
They just need to bring in Josh Smith now.
@KBergCBS: Patrick Beverley, a Mavs target before they landed DeAndre Jordan, will be staying in Houston on four-year, $25m deal, @CBSSports confirms.
I find that’s a big steal for about 6.3 mil/year I find it a bit surprising Brewer is getting more per year than Patrick. The way free agency has been, anytime someone signs for less than 10 mil a year it’s like a shock
DeAndre Jordan does not have the offensive talent to be the number one option on a team. Why is he being treated as such?
The Mavs don’t have a point guard. They are not going anywhere.
Can only get sporadic coverage on phone. At water park with kids. DJ leaving Clips not a surprise out here. They’re gonna have to either pull a sign and trade for big man or play Blake at the 5 and go small ball like GSW…
Some are speculating a sign and trade with Dallas to get a big man back, or even getting fancy with a three team. Wouldn’t it be hilarious if they bring in Perk to ‘replace’ DJ? They may bring him lin, anyway, even if they get another big.
Corey Brewer signing deal to return to the Rockets…
Clips are screwed and a destination for Haywood contract. I’d hold out for Reddick. Maybe give them JR for a pick.
Probably won’t happen, but Reddick would be perfect for the Cavs.
This is definitely a huge step back for the Clippers, but I don’t think it puts them at a junction where they decide to disassemble the team.
They could go after Kosta Koufus, Bismack Biyombo, Brandon Bass, Derrick Williams- type player and still fill that rebounding roll.
Just say no to JJ Reddick. We can do better. Much better.
Yes to Redick! Haven’t watched him much lately, is his D decent? He shot 43% from beyond the arc last year!
I agree, Blake was da best player in the playoffs for Clippers and really stepped up when Chris Paul wasnt there. I think they would be fine without Deandre and still be a playoff team.
Maybe this year. They will have a ton of money for next season. Only three guaranteed contracts: Reddick, CP3, Blake.
You know your franchise is a trainwreck when you make signing Derrick Williams a ‘priority’, like the Knicks have. That knucklehead would have to pay *me* to see the court if I were running the team.
Would that make JJ Barea an easier get?
http://www.amicohoops.com/nba/three-free-agents-the-cavaliers-should-pursue
Would still love Josephs although not likely.
Heard he was talking to the Heat and Mavs as top 2 candidates.
Barea sucks.
There’s a decent chance Delly is a better player than Berea next year or the year after.
Agree with both of you
SportsCenter @SportsCenter now18 seconds ago
THIS JUST IN: DeAndre Jordan on the verge of leaving Clippers to join Mavericks. (via @ESPNSteinLine)
That will kill the Clippers. But on the bright side, they will be able to feature Austin Rivers more.
Crushing to clips. CP apparently IS that much of an a-hole. Kind of makes you wish that CP trade to the Lakers had gone through. Kobe and CP on the same team completely burning the rest of their team to death.
Its a 4 year 80 million dollar deal
According to Stein, it’s a done deal. Welcome to your expanded role, Austin Rivers!
Marco Belinelli signs three year deal with Kings for $19M according to Ramona Shelburne
Marc Stein called it a “good maiden pick-up for Vlade Divac”……. Ok.
PS my dad looks like Vlade Divac, so he’s awesome.
I think it’s a good signing, but of course they need a lot more than that. I’d be terrified of that Matthews deal if I were Dallas (or the Kings, if he had signed there). High risk, high reward, but way more high risk.
Not bad. Rather have CJ Watson if he can be gotten.
@ESPNSteinLine: ESPN sources say Wizards pushing hard to land David West. Would be nice rally to get both Jared Dudley and D-West after losing Paul Pierce
They still can’t beat the CAVS.
Cavs Top 10 Plays by NBA. Relive the fun that was this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbymg03C_zM
Interestingly Fear the Sword just tweeted the same link. Well done sir!
Boy, THAT was fun!
The Kings are the Kings! Is that owner crazy or something?
He’s pretty terrible. Wonder how many coaches they’ll go through next year. I really feel for Kings fans – they have had to deal with clowns as owners for a long time, and that is just the worst.
I wish we didn’t have Andy on the books. Would much rather offer that 10 million a year to Lou Williams to light it up from our bench.
Doesn’t work that way.
Anyone have any details on Mozzy’s surgery?
Wow, this is sure more fun than a couple years ago. The biggest news we used to get was Jarrett Jack!
Did you save anything for the swim back, EG?
Probably not… I might need a vacation ;)
“Hi Rajon, still going to sign with the Kings? Cool! Just touching base.” – The Lakers
Cue the #WhenDeAndreDecides…
That’ll be weird with Ro-Lo and Bro-Lo playing in essentially the same metropolitan area…
But also on Delly…from Amico’s latest roundup:
Contradictory to an earlier report, the Cavaliers have not entered any serious negotiations with Matthew Dellavedova, per Bleacher Report.
http://www.amicohoops.com/nba/nba-movement-free-agency-tracker
This has been brought to you by the Emily Littella School of Journalism.
Ah, what does Bleacher Report know anyway… ;)
WOW! That seems like a LOT of money for Wes Matthews…
It’s a crapload, considering they don’t even know if he can play. But they are in desperation mode, may as well roll the dice.
Knicks, Sacramento, and LAL. Most unintelligent front offices.
You can probably throw Boston in there lately too…
I kinda don’t want to see David West go either of these places…
I’d rather him go to Washington.
Oh boy… this is starting to get really good here in LA…
Next year’s Free Agency market is way more intriguing than this year’s.
These players are not franchise changers.
Yeah, but this year’s FA market has been fun because of the hyper-volatility (especially compared to the waiting game of last year). Both outcomes were good ones for the Cavs, but I’ve had more fun tracking all the moves this year (except for Gilbert’s plane last year).
The plane tracking was such fun. Gilbert originally denied it, but folks looked up his plane registration and confirmed it had been in Miami….Then there was the debate about who was on it. What a crazy time. Looking forward to a book someone will write on the return of Lebron, etc.
@AmicoHoops: Cavs, Matthew Dellavedova progressing in contract talks, and all of today’s NBA free agency news on Amico Hoops: http://t.co/aQjhLR9glT
Here’s more on that…
Boy, that would be a pretty crazy contract…
Seriously… I figured the low end ($3M) would have been the ceiling… Pays to be a Cavs FA with LBJ on your side…
New Money. Contracts more inflated than we thought
Just posted link on Delly. Blocked by monster.
@RealGM: Matthew Dellavedova, Cavs Progressing On Multi-Year Deal (reports @ShamsCharania): http://t.co/oJxJqlBO9u http://t.co/oKxvdhrpsd
LaMarcus Aldridge isn’t even a top-five power forward in the league. He isn’t going to change the outlook of any team’s chances next season.
He goes to a contender, they will obviously stay a contender.
He goes to a team that’s losing a lot, they will continue to lose a lot.
He goes to a mediocre team, they will stay mediocre.
What a waste of time.
Yeah, but he’s the top player who might actually switch teams this FA period, thus all the hype…
EG, this was not to undermine all your posts. Really appreciate all you contribute, and enjoy reading it. Just kind of big picture, I feel LA isn’t worth this hype.
I’d take K-Love over him any day.
I’m not disagreeing with you. Just saying that most of the more important or talented FA’s (LBJ, Love, Wade, Gasol, etc.) just aren’t going anywhere, and LMA is doing the most meetings with teams other than his own. That’s why he’s being talked about so much. That’s all…
Not top five? Eh.. I don’t think so.. In no particular order
AD
LMA
BG
KLove
TD
He is top five dude..
Btw – off topic, but Buster Olney, MLB Insider, told me that the reason why the Indians have poor attendance is because folks in this part of the country have trouble with the economy.
Whatever LA decides he should probably announce it on a 1/2 hr ESPN special.
Only if he agrees to wear a bad checkered shirt, have Jim Gray do the interview, and give all of the money to Boys & Girls Club of America…
I still feel ill whenever I see purple and white checkered material. About three days later, my girlfriend said: “are you ever going to talk about basketball again?”. But I did not pitch my LeBron bobblehead, I put it in the attic until he came back.
Time to “kiss” KMart goodbye…
He’ll have to go to the strip club to get more tattoos like that!
Even though I’m an OSU fan I have a soft spot for Cincy. I was very close to going there before choosing FL Tech. Kenyan and the Bearcats were a shoe-in for the title until he broke his leg in the conference tourney. Overall he’s had a good career, he’s been part of some good teams, and forgoing a little cockiness and a stupid moment here and there, he’s done some good things in the community. Have a good retirement KMart.
I was in about the second row behind the Nets bench at a game about 10 years ago. I took an instant dislike to Keith van Horn, and was razzing him during a timeout. Kenyon turned around and stared right at me. I thought “this guy is scary crazy and can jump up here in 0.5 seconds”. I was quite as a mouse until he went back on the floor. BTW, that game ended on a Cavs inbound with about 0.1 seconds. Three point jumpshot for the Cavs win! The resulting controversy caused a rule change. I think now you… Read more »
Ha! Love that story, Raoul! And I share your dislike of Keith Van Horn…
Other than the Spurs, of course, Portland gives him a better chance to win AND more money than anywhere else. Not sure why they couldn’t get it done.
USA Today stole my “LA to LA: Part 2” label… Gonna sue them like Donald Trump… ;)
If LeBron wins a championship for Cleveland next year does anyone believe that he would then start jumping teams to help out his boys (Melo, CP3)? This was something Screamin A Smith brought up previously.
Not even a little bit… why would he do that? What’s the incentive? He lives in NEO. He’d be excoriated once again. After next season, he’ll be able to make a deal to make $40M/year to stay in Cleveland. Likely $200M over five years. Absolutely ZERO percent chance he leaves. There’s a better chance that Stephen A. becomes President of the United States…
I tend to agree. But I think there’s a slight chance he’d join his buds to help them out, even if it’s only for a year. I’m really not worried about it. And if he wins us a title I’m even less worried about it.
I’m going to go all “Cols” on you and say NOPE, No chance this EVER happens. ZERO. Only way those guys play with LBJ is if they come to Cleveland on a vet minimum…
I will never say never. If he wins Cleveland a championship that’s a huge lift. The only reason I bring it up is because SAS brought it up previously. If it were a different player or situation I’d agree with your ZERO percent, but it’s LeBron. If he won Cleveland a title then left he wouldn’t be hated right? How do you hate a guy that brings you its first title in 50 something years. Again I don’t believe it happens, but I also never saw the CAVS being in the situation they are now.
Stephen A. Smith is ridiculous. This is the same guy that claimed it was a done deal (TWICE) that LBJ was going to be a Knick. Seriously, dude. You’re better than this. Of all the media loudmouths, believe SAS at the risk of being foolish…
If LeBron wins a title in Cleveland, he can stay here, be a hero forever, age gracefully, keep contending, and gradually pass leadership of the team to Kyrie, Love and Joe Harris. If he starts team-hopping, he has to go through the hard work of making new situations work, be considered a mercenary, and be considered a failure if he doesn’t deliver a championship right away. Plus he would surrender most of the good will he earned with the return. This is one scenario that Stephen A. pulled out of his behind. A more likely but still remote possibility is… Read more »
I believe SAS said Bron was going to Miami in 2010. Let’s drop it! Not trying to piss off a fan base I’m a part of.
He did eventually, but for much of the free agent period of 2010, he was telling anyone who would listen that LBJ was going to the Knicks. He said the same last summer… that LBJ would opt out and join Carmelo and Phil in New York. Dude’s a blowhard that loves to hear himself talk. And for the record, I’m not pissed off. I enjoy debating stuff like this. But I think it’s silly to believe that LBJ will ever leave Cleveland again (unless something goes horribly wrong between him and CavsDan). He has everything he could ever want or… Read more »
I agree EG, but just think how winning a title for Cleveland changes things. It’s no longer a heavy burden. I don’t see it happening. But I guess wouldn’t be surprised if he left to try to win a title for the Knicks, where he loves to play.
See, I don’t think it changes things… We’re all part of the title-starved fanbase of this city, but winning it all doesn’t satisfy, especially when you have the opportunity to keep winning titles. Guys like Magic, Bird, MJ, Kobe and Duncan (on the player side); and Riley, Jackson and Pop (on the coaching side) understand what it means to win multiple titles. LeBron DID already go away and play with his friends, and won two titles. But, he didn’t win the infamous “not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5…” If he’d have won that third in a row in… Read more »
I know the fixation is on just winning one title in Cleveland, but guaranteed LBJ wants to win as many titles as possible (he still needs 3 more to match Kobe and 4 more to match MJ). His best chance to accomplish that is with this core that the Cavs are assembling. Melo is a one-way player and selfish to boot. He’s not a winner. CP3 wants to be a winner, but he’s never been able to get over the hump. Kyrie is 8 years younger than CP3, and has the chance to be even better than Chris. Absolutely no… Read more »
It is more likely Melo and/or CP3 join Bron especially after Gilbert spends like Mickey Mouse Arison should have. I would never rule anything out though.
Do you really think LeBron… especially after his statements last summer about NEVER being willing to take a haircut again in pay, would turn down a 5 year/$200M deal from the Cavs once the cap explodes? NOT GONNA HAPPEN!
I do not believe he will.
I love listening to Steven A, but he is BSC (batsh$tcrazy).
@TheRealLA__: LeBron and Wade conspiring their next move…….have to listen to this for a year now
Pretty much right?
I thought there was a slight chance PBJ would accept a 1 yr 12 mil and Wade would come here on a 1 yr 10 mil. Both would then become free agents together. Not now.
The thing is – Wade can’t leave Miami. It would be like Lebron leaving Cleveland. Miami is still a contender.
My favorite part of that was that you called LBJ “PBJ”…
It’s Peanut Butter and DELLY Time!
Good interview with David Pick on Blatt: http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/07/02/david-pick-says-david-blatt-admitted-he-had-to-sacrifice-more-than-he-initially-wanted-to-ends-speech-with-championship-prediction/
Pick covered Blatt in Isreal.
Must be fantastic being a Lakers fan right about now.
Yeah, must be real horrible to look upward during a rebuilding period and see 16 banners swinging from the rafters.
Depends if you were there to see them win any of them or not…
I mean, it has been five years since the last one… and it looks like it’s going to be a long wait for the next one…
Like I said, “right about now”.
Good point. Would much rather sit around staring at banners than watching amazing basketball. Lucky them.
An entire generation of Lakers fans doesn’t know what it’s like to rebuild.
I wonder if Timmay talked basketball with LMA…
What a contrast this year’s FA period has been compared to last year… 2014 was all about everyone waiting to see what LBJ would do. This year it’s fast and furious with the deals…
Thinking about Mo Williams signing for the mini mid level and got me to wondering why Delonte West can’t find a team. He’s only 31. We could bring them both back!
I don’t think LBJ would welcome Delonte back… and I don’t believe the rumors either. Just doesn’t seem like it would be in the cards…
I know. But Delonte was the best.
I would love Delonte back here. If he could still play (after being out of the League for a couple of years), he’d be a great fit at the two. Can defend, handle, shoot. I’ll always have a soft spot for him.
And in any recent interviews I’ve seen and read, he seems to be in a much more stable place in terms of his mental health.
Most of us get saner when we are too old to run around any more.
Truth replacement?
Wow…hope Dudley didn’t opt in and get blindsided by this. He would have gotten a better deal as a free agent.
Yeah, would love to have him for haywood. Thought it was a mistake for him to opt in.
I get the defense part, but what exactly is Milwaukee trying to be on offense? They have a starting lineup that can’t stretch the floor. Middleton is decent at best on outside shooting. Giannis and Jabari are slashers..
Jabari can shoot the ball. He is a very versatile scorer.
He definitely can. But he wil be the offensive creator not the “stretcher”. It won’t work out for either parties if Jabari is just to be there as a stretch 4. As versatile as he is he ain’t no spot up shooter.
I will put away the knives….for now.
LOL!
Just gotta say… no way that Lillard should be making more than Kyrie…
Voice of reason?
Don’t know that would have been on the table from Riles…
Probably wasn’t on the table. When Riley is done with you he says the money is on the counter.