The Case for Kibitz
2016-01-23
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Editor’s Note: The dismissal of David Blatt struck the sports world like a 8.0 on the Richter scale, and the reverberations and aftershocks will be felt on Cavs:TheBlog in the coming days. Above you will find an emergency Cavs:ThePod with instant reactions from Nate Smith, Tom Pestak, and Cory Hughey on the situation. Below is an article on Blatt that Cory named months ago, and is surprisingly fitting with yesterday’s news. Â
When news broke in June of 2014 that David Blatt was in the running for the Cavs head coaching job, maniacal fans went to Google and Youtube to break down what Blatt could bring to the table. The more I read, the more I liked him as a possibility, not just because of what he had accomplished in his diverse coaching career, but also, because of what he wasn’t. Blatt wasn’t another retread coach with numerous NBA playoff failures on his resume. He wasn’t a member of the old boys club that permeates American sports where executives play their own brand of buddy ball securing their pals gigs. He achieved success everywhere he had been, and didn’t pigeonhole himself to any specific scheme to feed his own narcissism. He got players to overachieve as a whole and play better as a unit than the sum of their individual parts led you to expect. There are multiple faces to David Blatt, and I don’t think we ever got a chance to witness his genuine self, where he could coach the team in his own vision.
Before the 2014-15 campaign, we ran a 5 on 5 previewing our expectations for the seminal season in which the Cavs were to transform from a rebuild with no exit strategy to a team with “Championship or Bust” on the letterhead. Nate, Tom, David, Ben, and I eagerly anticipated a free flowing offense with a ballet of off-ball movement that would make the Cavs appear to be a cross blend of the Spurs’ pulverizing-perfection offense with a talent level the Heat had showcased in the previous two NBA Finals. We expected both Love and LeBron to take turns operating out of the post and perimeter, and to run pick-your-poison pick and pops with weak side wings flaring into shooting position for uncontested threes in the holes that the stars opened for them. The possibilities of what LeBron, Love, and Kyrie could achieve in Blatt’s offense with their passing ability and three point range seemed limitless at the time.
That summer of 2014 provided an ever-flowing dopamine drip along the lines of a Schedule I Drug, and we were so high on our own imaginations that we couldn’t see the potential for abuse until months later. Anderson Varejao was given a contract extension that almost immediately looked terrible with his rough fit with Love in the front court. Dion and Kyrie were still playing a childish game of “it’s mine” with the ball. The worst part was that bad LeBron surfaced so soon after the honeymoon. He hijacked the offense like he hijacked the summer and largely ignored Blatt. Words are a funny thing. We revere them as a milestone on our own evolutionary progress as a species, and we pick them apart to find their perfect employment. In reality, they are simply our failed attempt at conveying emotion. You can throw #Ipromise at the end of a tweet, and even drop a line in a blockbuster film about how you see Cleveland’s face in the clouds, but if your actions don’t match the words, it’s all  just foreplay, and you were really just looking up to see your own reflection in the pillows of precipitation.
As a self-admitted Blatt guy, and sometimes apologist, I genuinely felt sad at the news of his dismissal. Those visions of a future that I believed would come true hit me like a relationship that had come to an end. All of the promise and time I invested into what it could have been was really just fleeting moments of my youth that I wasted. I could have learned Spanish, or how to play the piano instead, but instead I day dreamed about a basketball team. The future that played out in my brain so many times was rewritten in a instant.
So why was Blatt fired, and why didn’t his tenure with the Cavs work? A few hours after General Manager David Griffin’s press conference, Adrian Wojnarowski provided the blood stained glove that snugly fits LeBron James’ massive hand, which has controlled the puppet strings to the Cavaliers franchise since the moment Dan Gilbert’s private jet touched down in Dade County on July 6th of 2014. Woj begins that Blatt never had a chance from the rip. That LeBron’s dismissive attitude towards Blatt had trickled down and spread to the rest of the roster. While Tyronn Lue wasn’t Klutch Sports first choice to be the hand of the king, he was a compromise they would get.
As much as LeBron vows his reverence for Tim Duncan, and his fascination with the Warriors, it means nothing with his personal dismissal of David Blatt from day one. Blatt was the perfect coach to turn the Cavs into a monster, and LeBron made a conscious decision to put himself ahead of the team, or any of the PR lip service he has spewed since returning. The fear I have for the franchise going forward are thus. The reasons Duncan is Duncan and the Warriors are so feared is because they’ve bought in completely, checked their egos at the door, and sacrificed entirely for the good of the tribe, and that LeBron James’ fatal flaw is that he’s incapable of that.
Which brings us to that funny yiddish word in the title. Like most words, kibitz has a different meaning to different people. To some, it’s jovial joking around that can boarder on being intrusive. To me it’s a gathering of people to share a piece of themselves informally, once they’ve let their guard down, and it allows them to experience the world together. That’s what I felt while I shared my life with my collection of misfit toys at The Kibitz Room. We all knew that we had been broken by society, but we fit in here, in this moment with one another because we understood one another’s journey, and because we had lived it in our own way. We survived a loop reel of rejection, and while we didn’t necessarily prosper, we grew personally from it together. We kibitzed and understood one another on a level that I’ve never experienced elsewhere, and probably never will again.
This article was conceived three months ago, and was going to tie in Blatt’s roots, his Jewish faith, some of my experiences at the Kibitz, and the seemingly growing camaraderie that seemed to be taking root on the Cavs bench. The players appeared to be the tallest group of cheerleaders on the planet as they’d root on zoo crew members during blow outs. In the end, Blatt was fired for a lack of kibitzing in the locker room. Was Blatt the root of that lack of fellowship, or did LeBron poison the well against Blatt?
Blatt’s firing certainly changes the narrative on the Cavs quest to end Cleveland’s half-century and counting title drought. If they don’t win a title during this incarnation of the team, his firing will be one of the primary plot fulcrums we’ll dissect on Cavs:TheBlog, along with Andy’s extension, the Wiggins’ trade, whatever goes wrong from April-June, and the Cleveland failure package will get a fresh cut.
The fact Tyronn Lue was already in house for this entire run is encouraging to me that this won’t be a Trainwreck in the coming months. The team knows him and vice versa. When Avery Johnson was fired by the Mavericks, his .735 winning percentage was the highest in NBA history at the time, and it was the right move. I looking forward to seeing Blatt on a team that is open to his leadership, and watching him succeed from afar because I believe in him. Hopefully for our sake as Cavs fans, Lue is the right man for this team, and this transition won’t be looked upon as yet another failure.
There’s a part of me that feels good for Blatt as a person, and that his termination in a way was merciful. There has to be some sense of liberation for him in all of this. He’s no longer the media monster’s punching bag and scapegoat. He doesn’t have to suppress himself and his talents to appease an ego fit for a king. He didn’t sign up for the media circus that fluffs LeBron around the clock as click bait spam for idiots. I get depressed when I don’t see my dog for two days. Blatt’s family has been 6,000 miles away the entire time, in the matchbox in a bag of dynamite that is Israel. Blatt was deflecting charged barbs that questioned his credentials to lead an NBA team. I’m happy he takes that flush retirement plan that only a former Cleveland coach can attain, which will provide for his family for generation.  He’s earned the right to spend some time kibitzing with his own tribe.
Count me a fan of David Blatt. As well as a fan of Jason Lloyd.
I thought that David Griffin championed the hiring of David Blatt, but it turns out it was Dan Gilbert, according to Jason Lloyd. And maybe it’s just my take, but I think that Lloyd kinda throws Blatt under the bus here (along with championing Lue).
http://www.ohio.com/sports/cavs/jason-lloyd-tyronn-lue-emerges-from-shadows-of-champions-to-carve-his-own-path-in-cleveland-1.656873
Blatt was Never a fan of Blatt. Blatt had many enemies in the local media mainly because he stood up to them in interviews. They are out to get you anyways in the sports world ( in hopes of controversy) so you may as well be prepared. I made it a point to watch almost every damn Blatt post game interview. I enjoyed watching this chess game that was played between the two. He knew exactly what storyline they were looking for by the questions they asked. Another person who handles the media well is Lebron. In my opinion, they… Read more »
Good Lord I wish I could correct after posts sometimes. Lloyd was never a fan of Blatt. I wanted to add that many questions that were asked of Blatt were already loaded and antagonistic to begin with. You and I would never be able to handle those kind of questions.
Amen to that. Bring on the new CtB website!!
Same here – every time I watched those to post-game, there was some tension between the two. From what I saw, I remember Blatt being fairly narky towards Lloyd following a negative article he had written, and gave non-answers fairly aggressively each time he asked. Things never seemed to be respectful after that.
I never watched the post-game interviews, so that was completely off the radar for me. Interesting.
I agree with Anthony Lima of 92.3.He predicted yesterday to get ready for the “piling on” from the local reporters on Blatt. That is def happening.
Yep totally agree. The local beat writers can’t tell that they’re getting swayed by a narrative. They should join the Browns beat, and get talked in by ownership about a regime change every other year.
Lloyd is a bit of a schmuck. I don’t really have a whole lot of respect for him any longer.
Do you think Spoelstra stood up to LeBron better than Blatt? I respect LeBron’s basketball knowledge; he’s probably as good or better a coach than 1/2 the league. But EVERYONE needs a second opinion. Hopefully Lue can reach LeBron easier than Blatt was able.
Yes I do think Spo stood up to Lebron, and Miami had a unified front office to do so. Having seen what went on with Mike Brown “It’s a privilege that Lebron let’s me coach him” baloney – when Lebron had his nuts in a vice. I was surprised when reading this article back in the day and bookmarked it as this is something that would of never been said to Lebron in the Lebron 1.0 days with the Cavs: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5862172 specifically from the article “Exhibit A was a recent shootaround in which Spoelstra told James that he had to… Read more »
Nice job pulling up that link. Goes to show that when it comes to LeBron, you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t (stand up to him). When LeBron’s career is done, I think we’ll look back at it and say that his first stint in Cleveland, when he didn’t have a single figure who could guide him well, set him on a pathway that led to a lack of trust in the people around him. On the court, he morphed from a pass-first player to a high-usage player, and off the court he never quite devloped the leader… Read more »
Just read that article on ESPN about Blatt. If the stuff about James is true, I’m more pissed than I was yesterday. Seeing that, I fully believe that we would have won the finals had James bought in and not put himself above the team and Blatt. We had a good coach and Blatt did his best to change for James, but he lost the part of him that made him good in the first place. I’m so disgusted with this team. Particularly James. He hasn’t changed at all since the first time – thinks he is bigger than the… Read more »
Wait what? You think James didn’t work hard during the finals…!?
He worked hard during the playoffs, but he never bought in to the coach. Could you imagine LeBron working that hard in a Spurs-type motion offense?
You know, I think coaches are a little bit like pro quarterbacks in that the fandom expects perfection. A quarterback needs to be 6’4″, he has to be mobile, he has to be able to read defenses before the play and when the play is in progress, he has to have a quick release, he has to take hits in the face of a 300 lb pass rusher and get back up, he has to have a strong arm, he has to be able to throw accurately, he has to throw long, he has to sense the rush and escape,… Read more »
This comment “pro quarterbacks in that the fandom expects perfection” made me laugh. Because Browns fans didn’t even expect that Their expectations are SO Low all Johnny had to do was win 1 game against Pittsburgh Season saved. LoL But getting to your point, yes expectations on Lebron team is Very High. I’m not buying Portland game was thrown. They were devastated beyond belief and just couldn’t find the will power within themselves to play hard. If anything, they felt sorry for themselves more than a calculating move to throw game. It could be possible the chemistry or thrill is… Read more »
Let’s put Popovich’s quote up here – Gregg Popovich with some very kindhearted things to say about David Blatt a few moments ago: “He did a remarkable job. It doesn’t matter if you’re a good team or a bad team or how much or how little talent you have; he did a great job. I think what was most impressive about him was his demeanor. Who knows what he felt inside, but he never showed frustration or fear or excitement that would hurt the team at all. He was very measured in everything he did with that club and they… Read more »
That reads as something of a backhanded compliment. Especially considering how much we’d heard from Blatt about his own experience and non-rookie status (rightly so) as a coach.
No I think he was sincere. Pop has seen a lot of new coaches come and go over the years He was comparing him to them and trying hard to separate all of the talent on the team (thus doesn’t matter good team , bad team , talent ect) Blatt would smile at this comment.
I think the Cavs may have become more of a hated team after this move? The perception fair or not is that LeBron is a coach killer and the organization is dysfunctional. Can LeBron handle being hated again like in Miami?
It will NEVER be at that level for Lebron. I’m not sure this exactly catapults them to be the most hated team in NBA. But there will be some random jabs over it. The national NBA media will be very protective of Lue. All criticism from this point forward will go on Lebron(rather you agree or not) and the GM.
From @MrMichaelLee, #Pistons Coach Stan Van Gundy GOES IN on the #Cavs & the firing of David Blatt:
https://twitter.com/rachel__nichols/status/691014418721705984
That slob would be the first person begging to get paid what Blatt made to coach a team of all stars like the Cavs. What a turd.
Let’s put the SVG quote up here – Stan Van Gundy on CLE firing David Blatt after a 30-11 start: “That elevated all of the coach firings into the theater of the absurd. You can’t even make a flimsy excuse that the guy wasn’t meeting expectations. Obviously you have something else going on. Did he order the wrong type of food for the post game meals? Did he not give David Griffin a nice enough Christmas present? I don’t know. If David Blatt’s getting fired, how in the world does the rest of us have jobs? Because our front office… Read more »
Gregg Popovich with some very kindhearted things to say about David Blatt a few moments ago: https://twitter.com/serenawinters/status/690730243481427968
Most of us here really like Blatt and wish him the best. It is just that in this particular situation, he was obviously not getting the job done, and there is every reason to think Lue will do better. Why do 10,000 people think the team should waste a season so that the coaches feelings do not get hurt? Sheesh!
I don’t think it was/is a black and white issue. There are other dimensions to this.
Give me even one reason to think that Lue will do better. If we were bringing in someone with NBA head coaching experience, maybe….
One reason might be that the team might not intentionally tank games to make him look bad. As long as they still like him. If it doesn’t work out, I can already see the articles from Cavs beat writers: “an anonymous team member told me ‘he’s in over his head'”….”one Cavs front office worker said ‘he’s like a deer in the headlights'”…those courageous anonymous shots are always great.
If this team is really tanking games to show up the coach – then heaven help us.
It’s really great so many coaches and Elite coaches are supporting Blatt.
Well Pop is the best.
Stan Van Gundy calls Cavaliers front office ‘crazy’ for firing David Blatt
cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas…
Israeli NBA fans turn on Cleveland Cavaliers and LeBron after favorite son Blatt is fired
http://m.dailyjournal.net/view/story/6f3cd6d68b8249e186b22078223f280f/BKN–Blatt-Israel
See ya, bandwagoners. #Cleveland4Life
We start strong as @MikeFratello joins me to offer his insights into @cavs ouster of David Blatt. 415p @ESPNCleveland.
After watching Ty Lue’s first interview these are my thoughts : I liked: 1) he said he was going to call out guys if don’t play hard enough. I hope he does. 2) he wants more ball and player movement, he even said that Blatt really liked to run ISO’s most of the time. I didn’t liked: 1) admiting to the press that the loss against the Warriors really affected the teams confidence. I personally don’t think is ok to give your opponent that mental advantage. Maybe he is right but I don’t think it’s ok to let know the… Read more »
I just have av hard time believing the things people are saying about Blatt right now. The Woj piece is a hit job on LeBron, but equally there are hit pieces on Blatt coming out now. Seriously, Chris Haynes? With all his Euroleague success he can’t draw up an inbounds play? And do you seriously expect me to believe that the guy hailed as an offensive genius, who the Warriors wanted to hire, *he* was the guy who was making the team fall into LeISO?
Yeah, that crap is already old, a day in. Blatt may well have not been a great fit coaching the Cavs when Lebron and his entourage decided to come back, but he didn’t become one of the most successful coaches in the world because he can’t draw up or design a play. Enough already, he’s gone now, we’ll see if Lue can do any better. (Or even as well)
Wait a minute. Can you believe your own eyes? There have probably been 200 CtB comments about how bad the inbounds plays were.
Can someone find the overall league average for scoring on an inbounds play? And the Cavs? It sure seems like a huge disparity.
I think the prevailing sentiment for a long time has been that we were great at inbounds plays. Just a few podcasts ago, Tom was talking about how the team always seemed to score coming out of a time out. Fred & Austin have said similar things, and national TV commentators have even praised some of the Cavs’ inbounds plays. I’m not sure where you’re coming from with this.
I was thinking the same thing Wray.
Just last game, Delly slipped through a maze of players to get a lay up on an inbounds pass. It was sweet.
The Byron Scott led Cavs teams were almost incapable of inbounding the ball. Mike Brown didnt have much more success. David Blatt has drawn up some notably good inbounds plays.
There have been some really sweet ATO plays. Early in the Brooklyn game the lob to Love for the dunk was especially pretty, with KI screening Love’s man and creating an easy pass and dunk.
I watched it as well. I heard Lue say that Blatt preached ball movement, but that it just didn’t happen enough. He seemed to be blaming the team, not the scheme. I do agree with you that Lue’s communication savvy was pretty low – almost shockingly low. The stuff he said about the Warriors games was really strange. Why say that? He also used words in a very imprecise way that will lead to lots of quoting him out of context, etc. For example he said he didn’t want to coach “differently” than Blatt, just “better.” Then when someone asked… Read more »
Maybe Griffin will talk to him about how he should approach his interviews but I agree he needs to improve on his interviews.
I’d much rather have a coach who can communicate with the players over the media. Blatt was too verbose for these players to understand him.
Agree. As long as he gets team playing well, this will not be an issue. Charlie Manuel won a World Series and he can barely speak english.
Well, you know, like he was a good hitting instructor for the Indians too, you know, like Jim Thome used to swear by him, and you know, like Thome’s put up HOF numbers…..
One thing that David Blatt did that certainly backfired for him was not meeting with players and preparing them for their roles. His message was always — be ready at any time. But then players would be surprised by having to play or not getting in the game.
I expect Ty Lue to be more forthcoming with players on his plans. We’ll see if that works.
I don’t think this is a big deal. This stuff happens all the time in the NBA. They are whining . DO NFL football players cry about that?
Players are whining and crying because they don’t know where they stand? Uh, yea that is a pretty big deal for every professional athlete on a team sport. Some players will whine and cry about where they in fact do stand, but at least they should be given the courtesy of knowing.
Looks like LeBron lost at least 2 million Twitter followers over the past 24 hours. Is that right? Probably angry Israelis.
Jumping to conclusions a little there.