Live Thread: Cavs @ Hawks, Game 3 (#ChuckTheChuckersChuck?)
2016-05-06[Make sure you check out David’s awesome Wood Shop piece on five man lineups!]
After the Cavaliers rained down historic long-range fire on the heads of the hapless Hawks in Game 2, I was looking forward to Charles Barkley’s post-game eulogy of Atlanta rife with fishing metaphors and veiled shots at their collective manhood. Instead, Chuck went in a bit of a different direction, calling out the Hawks for not “taking someone out” once it was clear the Cavs were just record-hunting in the final quarter by chucking up 11 more threes.
While the wine & gold bench may have been guilty of overzealously trying to set the all-time mark for three pointers in a game, was it really all that disrespectful to a Hawks team that had given up the bulk of the record (22 before the Cavs’ starters all checked out with about four minutes to go in the third) well before garbage time? And, even if it was offensive to them on some level, would it actually warrant causing intentional harm to a Cav to send a message? Clearly, Chuck thought so (Shaq tried to mitigate his comment by asking “you mean touch them up, right?” but Chuck stuck to his guns).
So, thanks in part to Barkley’s soundbite, the conversation immediately following the game seemed to focus less on what the Cavs had achieved historically in their beatdown of Atlanta, and more on whether or not the Hawks would decide to man up and get some physical retribution for this apparent slight. Reporters asked about it. Media talking heads dissected it. Even one old Chuck adversary called him out over it…
Charles Barkley ,you better stop talking s*** about Cleveland you was never tough you hide behind TNT
— Charles Oakley (@CharlesOakley34) May 5, 2016
And of course, the obligatory Chuck response…
https://streamable.com/ulfr?t=38.4
There’s certainly no love lost between the two Charleses, who in addition to sharing a first name, also shared a position, the number 34 and some memorable physical moments on the floor against each other. This one happened in a pre-season game…
So, why spend so much time on this Chuck-foolery? Mainly because there’s not a lot else to talk about or watch for in the (as Ernie Johnson hilariously put it) “if necessary” Game 3. The truth is, unless the Hawks actually decide to get physical and start intentionally trying to hurt the Cavs, they have very little else at their disposal to stop Cleveland’s continued rampage. Sure, the Cavs might (probably will) cool off a bit from their blistering 56% shooting from downtown, and the Hawks may even alter their focus to take the open shots away. However, it would likely be at the expense of packing the paint, which would leave them vulnerable to Cleveland’s ability to attack the rack with abandon.
For his part, Ty Lue doesn’t believe what his guys did was wrong, and he certainly hopes the officials will prevent any sort of impending Chuck-pocalypse…
“I don’t think there’s any place in our game to take someone out if they’re playing well,” Lue said during a conference call with reporters on Thursday. “I think you can take it upon yourself to play harder and do things to stop it or stop a team from playing well. But when it gets into trying to hurt guys or trying to take guys out, that’s just not right. Hopefully the referees will keep an eye on it and make sure it’s a clean game. We don’t mind if it’s a physical game, but clean and everything that they do and we do is basketball related. I don’t believe in taking guys out and trying to hurt guys because a team or a player is playing well.”
LeBron took a more circumspect view on “Chuck being Chuck…”
LeBron James responds to Charles Barkley's comments after the @Cavs dropped 25 3's on the @ATLHawks in Game 2https://t.co/dLw2coZ6Sp
— Bally Sports Cincinnati (@BallySportsCIN) May 6, 2016
Will Atlanta find their inner tough guy… or at least the fake tough guy routine that Al Horford employed in last year’s playoff series when he tried to take out Delly with an atomic elbow? Or will they choose to focus their efforts on trying to at least make the Cavs adjust their game plan and work a bit harder for their points on the road? If they already believe that it’s “Mission: Impossible” like Paul Millsap indicated, it wouldn’t be surprising to see some frustration boil over into aggression.
A likely target could be J.R. Smith who has not only dazzled with his insane array of contested pipe bomb threes, but has also locked down Kyle Korver (allowing only eight shot attempts in the two games with only three makes). As history has shown, J.R. can be susceptible to rankling and retaliation, so the Hawks may try to get under his skin and provoke him to do something stupid.
Odds are that the Cavs will be able to handle whatever the Hawks throw at them, although this should shape up to be the most challenging game of the series to capture. Prediction: The Hawks don’t go down without a fight, and keep this one close to the bitter end. Cavs prevail 102-99.
Catch all the action on ESPN starting at 7 pm (EST)/4 pm (PST), and start Chucking your comments below…
Well now we will if the Cavs can play from behind in the playoffs.
Kyrie needs the to step the hell up
This is exactly what I feared happening. Cavs get over confident and Hawks take it to them. Probably should slow our rolls on discussing a Miami series.
this is a role reversal from the finals last year. except atlanta’s the one junking it up against us and our flow is off
I love the fire Kevin. Exactly what is needed
Irving is doing a poor job against the trap. Lets himself get pushed out to half-court.
irving had to pass that ball long time to TT for the easy dunk, Irving does take to long to pass
two bad offensive fouls on LOVE, need to be smarter
Tony Brothers should be canned…
tony effing brothers. every damn time
Yeah this is some bs officiating
cripes. Cavs defense is garbage.
wa kinda bad defense this is ? getting to the paint so easy ?
Thank you Kevin!
https://vine.co/v/iQqnzdQXP9Y
https://vine.co/v/iQqnJMgqH6A
That was ridiculous. Effing tony brothers.
KLOVE best show Horford whats wa
That’s the “looked too good to be a charge” exemption.
Poor KLOVE, but they acting as if he was trying to contest it
HOW IS THAT NOT A CHARGE ON HORFORD?!?!?!?
this game isn’t an nba basketball game
love could have had a cup of coffee during the charge
Team Ginobili with the flops here.
YEah, and TT’s a game low, -16, Hubie.
Frye + 8 and Delly +2, everyone else is minus, lets step our game up
Might have to roll with frye
this isn’t even hack a drummond. it’s hack an offense
Well the hack-a didn’t take long….
For all da hype from ATL, they have 10 3’s and we got 9. But we had 8 in da first quarter so they scored allot of 3 in da second quarter and got momentum
Kyle Korver this series:
• Games 1& 2: 1- 3 3-pt FG, 10 Pts
• 1st half of Game 3: 4-6 3-pt FG, 13 Pts
Cavs should have run after timeout plays for JR. He has been too hot
only that 1 3 point atempt and made from JR, roles reversed
If Atlanta goes hack-a, I bring in +8 Channing Frye.
TT best start hitting those free throws
Crawl back out of your little shell, Kevin. DUnk the effing ball
We’ve been to the line 12 times, only hit 6, 6 missed free throws and 11 turnovers in the half on the road, we clean that up we good, they are shooting 55% at home, clean up he defense and we fine. We need to start off the quarter good and not let it get ugly fast
Korver off the bench was big. Cavs lost him. Might need JR to match his minutes. Also, how the *@#$ does JR have one shot? That’s bad coaching.
The whole second quarter was bad coaching. TT shouldn’t have been doing the pick n roll with Kyrie…gotta be Lebron or klove or Frye. They just leave TT wide open
Delly needed more than 5 mins to really run the p/r.
Interesting ESPN tweet. Atl hit three pointers after each intentional foul on TT. Probably more of that coming
Cavs seem to struggle when teams throw different looks at them. But I trust their adjustments after half time.
KLove and TT both need dunking lessons after that one horrible possession…
Need to tighten up the D and get some penetration into the paint on O
Drive and kick, drive and kick. Clean up the turnovers
WE NEED THE DEATH LINEUP: Delly, Kevin, LeBron, JR, TT.
Exactly. I was screaming at the tv when Irving was walking the ball up the court.
Lue really doesn’t seem to make substitutions if one or more of his players is struggling. I mean Kevin Love was straight awful the second half of the 2nd quarter. As things getting out of hand Lue just rides him….
RJ reverse cut it to 8 at the half
https://vine.co/v/iQqhTbi5WTu
Bad things happen to your team, if you dont play defense, move the ball on offense and take care of the ball. Aside from that, we are golden.
I hope we come up with a vengence 3rd quarter. Need to take care of business
Don’t understand the end of the half…The Cavs got totally stagnant on offense and started holding the ball…I was hoping we’d seen the last of their prevent offense but i guess not…
prevent offense will never die
Cavs are playing 5 on 8 tonight.
atleast we only down 8, which can me made up quickly if the Cavs start to move the ball again and play some damn defense.
What a joke. And yet the Cavs still won’t lose. Because they love screwing with us.
Love’s mental toughness is laughable
Irving hits midrange
https://vine.co/v/iQqbWv3bp5W
The cavs are far less professional tonight than they were last game
At least Love didn’t injure himself on that wet spot.
Did the wet spot fall out of his ….. Nevermind
My goodness Love, finish the freaking lay up!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big KLove fan but he has blown way too many of these. Hopefully that was Atlanta’s big run for the game. Walked the ball up the court too much on offense.
Glad the Hawks look like a legit NBA team tonight.
cant be giving Korver open 3’s, lets just get the momentum back
He’s had more open shots in a quarter’s worth of time tonight than he did in the first two games combined.
cause JR was holding him, shump on him and all of a sudden he’s open
What is Love doing, had a wide open layup
Agree
Wide open layps result in a confidence-shaking block lately for Love.
you inxed him lol…
I wish I was the reason. He has been blowing wide open layps or dunks all of this season and the last. And he usually fakes an injury afterwards.
Why is LeBron hot dogging it out there? I don’t understand why this team can’t play focused for extended periods.
Sloppy with the ball tonight. That was a quick turnaround from 8 up to 3 down. Turn it up guys !
lets just close da quarter good
Is there sth wrong with Love? I dont think he is on the bench either.
Scratch that.
So according to Chuck and Hubie(who I respest a lot), we should not try to break records and we should let defending players get in position to contest a shot. OK, keep those things in mind, Cavs.
Refs doing everything they can to give Atlanta an assist and we’re still up 8.
Only seen about 10% of this game. Kris Humphries? what’s going on CtB?
That was Kyrie’s first field goal, beginning of the end for Hawks now that Irving saw he ball go in the hoop
The bench liked Shump’s dunk
https://vine.co/v/iQq73aEWwxE
Three-point fever: Catch it!
https://vine.co/v/iQqZnVpqvtb
So, Hubie hates the Cavs…..
Yeah, but he’s pretty old and crotchety…
Shump shocking me tonight with his shots
Great steal and runout by Ky… Needed that to maybe get him going…
https://vine.co/v/iQqZIhrdvbw
need to keep shooting rhythm 3’s and less 1 on 1
Nitpick: 7 turnovers already. I think 8 all game two. Playing with great energy now though
lebron is the worst offender
he only has 2 though
Shots are falling but D is loose.
7 turnovers by da Cavs, clean da up and we good
FRYE AGAIN!
https://vine.co/v/iQqWadQOrZw
I love what Jefferson and Frye have brought to this team