From Distance: Battle of the MVPs
2019-05-24four point play….
1. I am rather thrilled that Kawhi Leonard’s apparent knee injury isn’t serious enough to have greatly affected his play. It was clear to me when he injured the leg, though somehow that has escaped the National Media. Very early in Game 3, Leonard had a breakaway dunk that turned finger roll when he blew a tire. The announcers didn’t catch that he immediately started limping after this play, pointing to another later landing. I don’t know what happened exactly, but I do know that it happened this early in the Game 3.
I was worried that would would turn an otherwise fantastic series into a facsimile of what it could have been. Instead, Leonard toughed out the rest of Game 3, got a lot of help in Game 4, and was back to being a destroyer of worlds in Game 5.
2. I have had the Raptors coming out of the East since last September. After they picked up Marc Gasol, my enthusiasm only grew. With Gasol, Siakam, Leonard, Green, and Lowry, you have an All-NBA level defensive squad with plenty of offensive punch.
My one fear for the pick came in the way of the best Milwaukee deer, Giannis Antetekounmpo. Giannis made his freaky leap, and there was no telling where exactly he would land. If the voters got it right, it will at least be the regular season MVP.
Still, against an amazingly intelligent set of defenders, I gingerly picked the Raptors to take out the Bucks and advance to the NBA Finals. Two games in, I was seriously doubting the wisdom of my pick, but after three consecutive victories, the Raptors have regained my confidence.
3. While most people would claim that Leonard has simply outplayed Giannis over the course of the series, I would point to Nick Nurse vs Mike Budenholzer as the more damaging loss from the Bucks’ perspective.
Coach Bud has been put into a bit of rough situation with Eric Bledsoe. After Bled seemingly turned the corner this season, he has fallen hard back to his baseline over the course of the last two rounds. Bledsoe is a fearsome defender, but offensively, he is a below average decision maker, a mediocre streak shooter, and a mentally weak big game performer.
While I applaud Coach Bud’s ability to maintain confidence in his players, his reluctance to bench Bledsoe may have already cost the Bucks a trip to the Finals.
Coach Bud has also stuck with a rather stagnant offensive attack against a Raptors’ defense that is essentially playing a match-up 3-2 zone. They flow in and out of the defensive scheme with an accuracy that only five defensive masters could regularly employ.
Any time Giannis has the ball at the top of the floor, the Raptors immediately slide into their 3-2 look (or 1-2-2 depending on the other non Giannis players), making it nearly impossible for Antetekounmpo to get freaky.
The only way to combat this defensive style is to either make all the open looks that the Raptors want you to take, (hard and barely doable) or to play PnR against the head of the Zone and screen off-ball (less difficult, but hard to immediately employ).
Basically, there is no way that the Raptors should be able to continually bottle up The Freak if the Bucks start screening with Brogdon in tandem with off-ball pindowns to shake the defense. They need to play more like the Nuggets do on the weakside of the floor.
This is why it is so damning to play Eric Bledsoe. He doesn’t randomly screen well. Some guards really understand how to set random screens on or off ball. Mathew Dellavedova wouldn’t have a career if he weren’t supremely good at that skill. Kyle Lowry’s advance stats wouldn’t point to him being an All-NBA level contributor if he didn’t constantly move and screen without nary a stop.
Bledsoe is terrible at this, while George Hill and Malcolm Brogdon both excel. If you want to make stylistic changes in order to beat a defense that has your number, you have to play guys who have the mental bandwidth to adjust on the fly.
Bled is owed a lot of money going forward. When he is hitting his shots, he can look like a great player. But if the Bucks want to get to the Finals, Coach Bud is going to have to make the hard to decision to sit him in favor of guys like Pat Connaughton and increased minutes for Hill and Mirotic.
I understand that Mirotic hasn’t been hitting his shots, but at least he understands how to move off-ball if Coach Bud gives him the green light. Four immobile Bucks watching Giannis take on a triple team isn’t going to get it done.
4. Out West, the Warriors did what everyone should have expected them to do against an inferior Blazers team. As much as I have come around on Damian Lillard (I used to think he was the most overrated player in the league and a net loss because of his defensive ineptitude. Now I recognize his value as a leader, and his defense has greatly improved.), I still didn’t think Portland had a shot to win more than one game.
Like I have said previously, the Warriors’ floor is higher without Durant, but their ceiling is lower without him as well. The change in style allows them greater heights, but can make them bored and uninspired in certain situations.
Without Durant, the Warriors are still at the mercy of a giant wing scorer like LeBron, Kawhi, or Giannis. It is too easy to hunt Steph Curry’s undersized defense in mismatches without Durant in the lineup. Obviously, the Blazers mini backcourt had no chance of taking advantage of the Warriors’ primary sans-Durant weakness.
In the Finals, however, if Durant is not healthy, the Warriors are going to be in serious trouble. Both Giannis and Leonard would feast on Curry in force switch situations. If the Bucks end up in the Finals, it will be because they figured out how to beat the zoned up look.
If the Raptors advance, the Warriors will face the smartest collection of defenders that they have ever faced. Yes, the Cavs occasionally followed the gameplan for extended stretches allowing LeBron’s physical dominance to wear on the smaller Dubs, but even at the Cavs’ peak, they were nowhere near this Raptors team in intellect.
That is why I am so happy to see Leonard’s apparent health. I want whoever it is that comes out of the East to be healthy and ready to beat the Warriors. I like both East teams. Spoiler, I don’t like the Warriors, especially if Durant is playing.
Which brings me to Durant. I am not professional athlete so I have never been afforded the physical therapy and genetic gifts that Kevin Durant has. I do know this. The first injury that really sidelined me was a calf strain.
Now, maybe the term “mild” was only tossed in for Durant to alleviate fear after the suspected achilles tear. Yes, the latter is obviously a far great injury and everyone should be happy that an all-time talent doesn’t have to go through that kind of rehab.
BUT, a mid to severe level calf strain is no joke. They linger, re-injure often if you come back even a bit too soon, and greatly affect a player’s leaping confidence. I would say most guys would prefer a quad or even a hamstring strain to a calf strain.
If you feel that pop, it is because a significant amount of muscle tissue has torn. Durant is huge and can still get off shots even at 70%, but unless he heals incredibly quickly, it is very unlikely that he will be totally healthy in mind and body for Game 1.
Honestly, I hope he is. I want the Warriors to have zero excuses if the East comes out on top.
With the Memphis Grizzlies holding the No. 2 pick in the NBA draft and expected to select point guard Ja Morant, The Ringer’s Bill Simmons suggests on his podcast the Celtics would be willing to trade Gordon Hayward to the Grizzlies for current point guard Mike Conley Jr.
https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/05/celtics-already-lining-up-kyrie-irvings-replacement.html
Like that trade for Boston. In some ways Conley is a better fit with Stevens and that team. Not as good of a shooter or scorer. Solid playmaker. Not likely to iso/hero ball as much. Better defender than Kyrie. Has played with a guy like Horford before in that Horford can make plays from the elbow and set people up like Gasol. Though obviously the offense ran through Gasol much more and he probably facilitated more than Horford ever has. Plus Conley is probably exponentially more of a team player/better locker room guy than Ky ever will be. You allow… Read more »
Not sure why Grizz would want that. If I were them I would look to trade him for picks/ salary fill. I have never liked Hayward that much, though, maybe some teams think he’s really good or something. More likely Simmons is suggesting some dumb trade that will improve the Celtics.
Shocking that Simmons would suggest the Grizzlies trade a bad contract for an immeasurably worse one!
Simmons? Really? When would he do something like that?
Oh yeah, constantly
Their contracts are both up in two seasons. Only reason I could think they would do that is if they wanted to make room for Morant to start from day 1 and if they thought Hayward would return to form next season.
Sounds like Simmons dreaming to me.
Why would Memphis do that? Conley has a big contract, but is still one of the better PGs in the association.
Simmons should stop publishing his wet dreams.
I CASE OF FRYE-PA TO GO PLEASE —-BETTER MAKE THAT 2 CASES -( TRIBE HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT TO WATCH )—-HAS TO BE MORE TO IT (KNICKS TRADE ) —POSSIBLY SETTING UP ANOTHER TRADE / TEAM– ????
https://twitter.com/BasketballRehab/status/1133046735461339137?s=19
Ugh. Why? This doesn’t make sense.
I don’t know a whole lot about Ntilikina, other than he’s got a defenders body with longer arms. I’m not sure how I feel about this trade? At first glance, I’d rather keep the pick.
-3.9 bpm rookie year (-3.5 o and -.5 d). -5.7 bpm this year (-4.5 o, -1.2 d). Shot 36.7% fg and 31.8% 3 last year. Shot 33.7% fg and 28.7% 3 this year. 3.2 apg rookie and 2.8 this year on less than 2 assist to to ratio both years. In rpm he was 505/514 players this year. Three spots ahead of Sexton. No thanks to non-shooting guards unless they are someone like rubio who has always been an elite passer and solid defender. He might have potential as a defender, but he just seems so bad offensively. I can’t… Read more »
I wonder if this also involves getting RJ Barrett from the Knicks. Maybe the Knicks want Culver, but figure they can dangle Barrett, if the Cavs will give them the 26th pick.
I suspect the knicks will take whomever they feel has the best trade potential with NO, even if they don’t have indications from ky or kd yet.
I can be overly hopeful about young lottery picks, even if they have a rough start, but this just seems silly. I have to believe it would be in conjunction with a 4-5 pick swap or something at least that isnt just a waste of assets.
Err, a 3-5 swap
I just don’t know why NY would do a pick swap with the cavs. If we had the fifth and say a pick in the 10-15 range, ok that makes sense. I mean Barrett isn’t an elite prospect necessarily, but he is fine to above average considering his age versus production in context with the space that team had to operate inside the three line. His trade value is probably way higher than his value as a prospect alone for the knicks. Coupled with some of their young promising sophomores and they could easily have the best AD package. I… Read more »
I don’t disagree with you. I just can’t imagine any other reason we’d trade the 26th pick for a pseudo bust. Maybe the Knicks know they have thee free agents in the bag and somehow are also angling for JR and his cap relief? I didn’t think they need it, but I also am no expert on what the hell the Knicks want or may be thinking. I just have trouble thinking of what else the Cavs would want from them besides the 3rd pick. If the Cavs just want a long young defensive SG guard that cant shoot, there’s… Read more »
I think you’re right that it doesn’t really make sense in a vacuum. Unless the cavs think Ntilikina is really a diamond in the rough. That diamond seems to be really really really rough, as in by the time you cut and polish it there may not be anything left. I have to hope there is something else involved because if not….I don’t get the cavs’ FO mindset.
Maybe someone that watched the knicks can offer some insight on what makes Ntilikina attractive enough to counter his massive offensive inefficiency.
Hard. No.
After being angry and not posting much other than anger, I will also ask why the Cavs would possibly be interested in a guy who is not very good who is much closer to getting paid real money than a draft pick who is not close to getting paid real money who may turn out to be pretty good? At least as good as Ntilikina? Who knows how much truth there is to this, but these rumors drive me batty.
God, no. This smacks of letting Nwaba walk & needing to replace the ‘defensive’ guy. Re-sign Nwaba (who is miles better than this dude, and make an intelligent pick at 26.
I love how NBA teams think every defender is going to turn into Kawhi offensively. That is not likely.
This is interesting. NBA needs to get on the d league and make it palatable for high level prospects.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26836790/hampton-skips-college-new-zealand-pro-team
Deadspin on the Lakers but suggests that Rich Paul did this when Lebron was on Cavs… https://deadspin.com/whoo-buddy-the-lakers-sound-like-a-real-mess-1835060734
KJG HAS ALOT OF TEAMS USING CULVER AS A ‘SMOKESCREEN ” IN THIS DRAFT —HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT MIGHT BE PARTIALLY TRUE ——-LIKE ANY PROFESSIONAL SPORT THERE WILL BE ALOT OF ” FALSE SIGNALS ” SENT OUT ——–CHESS GAME TACTICS
Also, it sounds like the Knicks may be interested in Culver with the #3 pick. Which means that Barrett could fall to the Cavs at #5.
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2019/05/nba-draft-2019-rumors-news-lakers-leaning-toward-darius-garland-deandre-hunter-could-rj-barrett-fall.html
Believe it when I see it. In all likelihood he gets taken by on of those teams and traded to NO.
A pair of Cam’s:
Fedor’s mock draft today, has the Cavs selecting Cam Reddish (#5), and Cam Johnson (#26).
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2019/05/nba-mock-draft-2019-chris-fedor-projects-the-top-five-and-cavs-picks-video.html
Johnson would be a great pick IMO
Reading between the lines of what has been released it seems Gilbert was feeling symptoms kikely caused by the begining of a blockage and went to the hospital. It’s then been said he suffered an actual stroke while actually already at the hospital. Having a bit of experience with such things, it appears that he luckily didn’t get a blockage all at once. Because he was already admitted when it likely did happen, they were able to treat him immediately. Strokes are all about time, so I think this looks very good for him. Reports that he is awake, responsive,… Read more »
Absolutely true on time. If he had a stroke in the hospital, he should make a full recovery.
Yep. Positive energy out to the Gilbert & Cavs family.
PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU UNCLE DAN—–SPEEDY RECOVERY !!!
You guys hear about Dan Gilbert? He was hospitalized with “stroke-like symptoms”.
Just google him or the Cavs. It seems articles just started popping up 15 minutes ago.
Whoa.
Yikes. That doesn’t sound good. Hope he fine.
Hoping for a speedy recovery
Why is it that basically all articles save 538 ones on ESPN about bball are non-analysis based, save for Lowe? None of them breakdown plays. They are all vague and more about team Dynamics. I am sure there are plenty of tactical xs and os coaches that could write 1000 words every few weeks. The team chemistry/manufactured regular season drama at this point on the playoffs is not usually the reason teams lose close series. Everything that is not tactical breakdown is fluff at this point. No real substance. Most of the articles on blogs like this go more in… Read more »
You could say this about all their sports coverage, not just NBA. All the headlines are just attention grabbers, not actual analysis/discussion.
I mean it has been years since real analysis sites started popping up. I feel that is part of the reason I started following this blog in the Krolik era and more generally the truehoop blogs way back in the 2009-2010 era. They actually broke down plays. Why has this not been the thing on major sports networks?
And I will say the NFL has it galore. Granted different game with plays having set breaks. But still. NBA could easily have tactical breakdowns (major possessions each qtr) of every playoff game.
The answer must be simple. Because people would not read them enough. Basketball junkies like us have places like these blogs to chat and analyze basketball, plus the occasional Lowe or Kevin O’Connor article. What sells most to the casual fan must be the equivalent of basketball gossip and very basic stuff like team dynamics.
First reason: Most writers don’t know enough about basketball to actually recognize and write something specific. Example, Andrew Sharp of SI only learned what “the dunking zone” is this season. If you ask Bill Simmons what “Loop” is, he would probably understand the action but would likely not know it by name. Basketball is super simple compared to football, but there are still secondary actions that most fans know nothing about. To be fair, many people have probably set a flare screen in their pick up basketball lives without knowing what it is called. But when those same people get… Read more »
Bill Simmons’ popularity is the most obvious example of why you don’t need to go into specifics about actual basketball plays to be a successful basketball writer. Boxscores (basic or advanced) offer plenty of stats that you can support any claim you want to make so you can seem sophisticated even if you can’t recognize what a zone defense looks like. Simmons always gathered or even made up stats to support his (often ludicrous) opinions so that he always seemed like a basketball guru only like Ben said he might not even know what a Loop is! Lowe changed all… Read more »
YEAH JOHNB—THAT WAS THE ONLY HOPE / REASON AS FAR AS NOT BEING SELLERS —-WC SPOT—-WHO KNOWS “IF ” THEY GOT ALL THEIR PITCHERS / PLAYERS HEALTHY / START PLAYING TO THEIR POTENTIAL THEY COULD POSSIBLY DO SOME DAMAGE IN IST PLAYOFF ROUND
HEY MY BUDDY BUCK—-COUNT ME IN ON THAT TRADE——MORE YOUNG / TALENTED -(HOPEFULLY )—BODIES –THE BETTER !!!——WHO IS JUMPING ON MY “BADWAGON ” POSTED ABOUT A MONTH AGO / AND REPOSTED RECENTLY—-THE TRIBE WILL BE SELLERS AT TRADE DEADLINE —–” THEY ARE DEAD IN THE WATER ” !!
I was onboard back then. At least from the perspective that I think that will happen. Unfortunately with J Ram being awful, and having a bunch of mediocre to poor hitters in the rest of the lineup, I don’t see them getting the second WC play-in spot even in Clev comes back strong. I still wouldn’t trade Lindor though.
so.. who would trade the #5 for the #8 and #10 (and perhaps some other goodies) ?
Might be worth it. I have not been on board with taking a guy like Clarke with our lone top ten. But if you get another pick that high, taking him and someone else, maybe a high ceiling/high bust guy would be solid. I could deal with Reddish then. But only if we have another high pick to take a guy that can contribute right away in some aspect, a la Clarke. However, I don’t see Atlanta as doing that. We would probably have to give up Love plus the 26 pick. I doubt they are in the market for… Read more »
does ATL have any garbage they would like to dispose of?
They have 58 mil guaranteed and 22 mil cap holds. Cap holds/FA are Dwayne Dedmon (9.4), Justin Anderson (7.5), and two guys for 3.2 total. Plus .9 mil inactive roster spot. So no. They only have 81 mil with cap holds. More than enough for a Max. Renouncing Dedmon and the deadweight they have basically two max slots for this summer. They are not in the market for expirings.
HOPING IT TURNS INTO THE THE SEREIES WE JUST WATCHED –( BUCKS / RAPTORS )—-DO BELIEVE RAPTORS HAVE A CHANCE —DUBS SANS DURANT ——ALSO WOULD HAVE TO BELIEVE KAWHI STAYS IN TORONTO AT LEAST 1-2 MORE YRS —-CAN’T SEE HOW YOU LEAVE AFTER GOING TO THE FINALS ——-ALTHOUGH I GUESS LEBRON DID LAST YEAR RIGHT ?
I think the Clippers would be a better option for him – they already have a great core with Lou Williams, Beverly, Shamet, SGA, Zubac. Only bad contract is Galinari who is an expiring next year. Even if they signed Leonard, they should have some room to make some additional moves. Toronto looks good now, but they have $80M+ tied up in Lowry, Gasol (if he opts into player option, which I can’t seem him not doing), and Ibaka. All 3 are 30+ year olds. All that space clears up after one more season, but it would be tough to… Read more »
80 million without Gasol opting. 103 with him opting.
With KD out I do not understand why GSW are overwhelming favorites.
Toronto is not Portland sans Nurkic. Or Houston.
A 15 point hole vs that team is one you do not climb out of.
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1132492575343108096?s=19
This Toronto team along with the 2015 Grizzlies (and the 2016 Thunder) will be the best defensive teams the Warriors have faced during their championship run. They will make it somewhat difficult on them but there is no way they lose 4 games. I said that about Milwaukee too, so take it for what it’s worth.
We’ll see…it should be interesting…
Too bad OG is out for the Raps.
I think if KD misses significant time, the Raps win.
Kawhi, Gasol, Siakam, Green, Lowry, & Ibaka are all good to great individual & team defenders. All really smart defenders. Throw in VanVleet & Powell & they are a solid 8. 9 if OG can play.
OG is definitely out for the entire playoffs?
Not sure. But I think he is without a timetable.
Doesn’t matter. Dubs in 3
Uh huh…doubt it…
Dubs in “3”….is what? A reference to a joke? Or are you just being hyperbolically sardonic?
John B: Think it might stem from a commentator suggesting that a game 4 may not be required after an opponent was destroyed by Lebron three games straight in the playoffs. This may or may not have been Toronto (my memory fails me), but I feel like it was.
Might have been the Hawks when they were the “best” in the East.
Oh yeah, Teague et al. You might be right.
Ah ok. Figured it was something like that.
Van Vleet is a great defender too. Anunoby is out for the season? He had surgery like six weeks ago. Does appendectomy take that long to heal?
That’ss what I was wondering, but I have heard nothing…
I wouldn’t call him great. He’s a decent team defender in their concept and he plays with good energy. He’s still a liability at that size.
I think you are doing him a disservice. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fnFlbZgJLEA&t=337s
Lowe also had an article (or maybe it was his 10 things column) praising his individual defense that I can’t track right now.
I am so mad at Budenholzer and I don’t even care all that much about the Bucks. My goodness is he the worst playoff coach of the last decade. Maybe Lopez has pictures of him, nothing else can explain his insistence.
Coming into this game, the starters had a huge +/- edge in this series. Bled, Brogdon, KM, Giannis, Lopez. Might be why he stuck with them.
Thought Lopez was fine tonight.
I know they did and believe that huge +/- was despite Lopez not because of him. The eye test at least showed that he was getting routinely killed in the pick n roll dating back to the Boston series. And Bud made many many more mistakes that I am too tired to get into right now.
You realize that Toronto’s big run came as soon as Lopez entered the game in the fourth, right? Toronto was basically running a “seek and destroy Brook” offense.
I like Lopez playing fine, but not utilizing his post game in switch mismatches is idiotic. He is one of the best post players of the last decade and Bud should have remembered that when the Raps were switching smalls on him.
I will say. Respect Toronto fans. But the Degrassi Disney child star guy is kind of a very annoying personality.
https://twitter.com/NickCaminoWKYC/status/1132482868461080578?s=19
I don’t believe that. Maybe Lebron, Kyrie, Love, but not last year’s team…
Yeah, I don’t buy that either.
Agree. These teams are both way better than Indy and Boston.
Very happy that the Raptors got to the Finals. It has to be a huge relief after so many years of failure. Great story. Maybe not everybody should rebuild after the first or second playoff failure. Keep trying to win. Great example for the rest of the NBA.
Know you’re disappointed about Giannis. Feel for you.
Not really. He didn’t deserve it. Kawhi outplayed him, especially in Games 5 and 6. He has a lot of holes to fill in his game and he has a long career ahead of him. I think he has many Finals in him.
I hope so.
Happy for Toronto. ECF has been fun. Don’t imagine I’ll be watching the finals.
https://twitter.com/Carter_Shade/status/1132477274563973120?s=19
outstanding !!
Really cool scene for Raptor fans…
Would have been happy for either of these teams. I never minded the raptors. Seem like great passionate fans. Organization has been solid for quite some time.
Who has home court advantage in the Finals? Not that it will matter much but wondering.
Raps.
Nice. So you are telling that there’s a chance?
58 wins to 57 in favor of Raps…
Unbelievable. Offensive rebound off a missed free throw with 7 seconds left. Milwaukee didn’t deserve this.
kawhi super cool cuke
siakem cool cucumber
Giannis still at less than 40 minutes played. Your season is on the line. Lebron would never come out.
van vleet 4/5 from 3..
Direct tv now epic fail. Twenty seconds left and…. nothing. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Me too! Directtv now?
i don’t see how kawhi leaves if TOR makes it to the finals..
I hate this consecutive timeout BS.