Live Thread: Cavs @ Pacers (or, CtB Trifecta)
2025-01-14Good evening CtB!
The Cavs are in the Crossroads of America as they take on the officially scorching hot Indiana Pacers for a neo-classical Central Division rivarly/nationally televised prime-time showcase for Eastern Conference supremacy. The Pacers just broke the Cavs’ 12 game winning streak in decisive fashion 108-93 in Cleveland Sunday night. Some thoughts between then and tonight’s home and home rematch…
1. The Pacers are legit (Haliburton Ewing Theory?)
For keen NBA observers, Sunday night’s performance from the Pacers was not unexpected. Essentially their come-up has coincided with the health of Andrew Nembhard, the Pacers young and upcoming guard. The Pacers were already a good offense, but it was their defense that sealed the deal in the game holding the Cavs under 100 for the first time this season. And particularly, it was the defense of the Pacers’ bench that dominated the game with Jarace Walker and TJ McConnell absolutely terrorizing the Cavs. If their defense actually becomes a top 10 type of defense, this will not be a team you want to face in the playoffs. Also interesting that Indiana’s defense became otherworldly the moment Tyrese Haliburton went out with injury… coincidence? Absolutely not.
2. Injuries, lack of chemistry for the Cavs’ bench
Part of the reason why the Cavs’ bench uncharacteristically got dominated was because it’s trying to now integrate a lot of guys who haven’t really played together recently. Isaac Okoro, Max Strus, and Sam Merrill haven’t really played with each other at all this season due to various injuries to all three. Now Ty Jerome and Caris LeVert are also coming back down to Earth partly because of bench lineups being out of whack now for a few weeks due to injuries. Adversity has finally struck the Cavs and now we find out what this team is truly made of.
3. It’s a gauntlet until the All-Star break
One of the critiques of the Cavs’ historic start to the season is how weak the beginning of the schedule is. Now until the All-Star break the Cavs will be facing much tougher competition. The only two games against easy competition before the ASB come in February against the Wizards and Raptors. Otherwise, it will be night after night of playoff hungry teams, and contending teams. The Cavs getting on the positive of .500 through this part of the schedule shouldn’t be seen as a failure.
4. Slop distractions?
There’s also the business side of basketball that could be affecting teams in terms of trade rumors and contract speculations. The Cavs are buyers, and the Cavs also have tax and roster building restrictions coming down hard at the end of this season. Will POBO Koby Altman have to make moves? Will he let it ride? A quick conversation with other NBA fans revealed that the Cavs could lose Caris LeVert, Ty Jerome, and Sam Merrill this offseason, which pretty much eliminates all the talent that makes the bench great. Then there’s Brian Windhorst going on Cleveland radio saying that agents are telling him that players want to come to Cleveland. Are the Cavs young-ish guys prepared to handle the distractions of the trade deadline? Stay tuned…
5. Can Spida, Sam I Am, James Dean, and Strus is Loose find their shooting form?
In spite of the Cavs’ historically elite offense this season, this quartet of shooters really haven’t shot all that well relatively speaking. Now their numbers are by no means bad, but two percent better and this offense goes to even another level. There’s still a lot of improvement that could be made, and that should excite fans for the 2nd part of the season.
6. Start grinding
It seems like head coach Kenny Atkinson wants to re-focus the Cavs’ efforts on defense, and it will be interesting to see how that plays out. One thing that could be done is more minutes for Isaac Okoro and fewer for Georges Niang. Also, will Dean Wade maintain his starting lineup presence? Chris Fedor seem to erroneously report that Max Strus was to start last game. But it’s hard to see that happening given the struggles the Cavs have had maintaining a top 10 defense especially without Wade. Frankly, this team also misses Sam Merrill’s ability to chase guys and play hard-nosed defense. We’ll see if there’s any adjustments tonight especially in a home and home series.
Tip off is scheduled for 7:00PM Eastern time and will be broadcasted live nationally on TNT, Go Cavs!
Mathurin is a dope
Caris playing with no control tonight.
Take a lap Mathurin
Between TJ, Mathurin and Siakam these Pacers are super easy to hate
Goodnight, Ben!
GET OUTTA HERE MATHURIN YOURE A LITTLE PUNK BITCH GO HOME TO MOMMY
What the fuck is Mathurin thinking
You know, I was thinking that Mathurin was a hothead a bit earlier.
Matherin 😂
DG got that dawg in him
Beautiful basketball by the Cavs right now.
THEY CANT STOP YOU DG
DG3!!!
DG you MFing killa!!!
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Great challenge.
QUIT BALL WATCHING MOBLEY REBOUND THE BALL
THATS A BULLSHIT CALL KICK SIAKAM IN THE NUTS
Slappy Pascal gets away with so much.
DEAN WADE HUGE REBOUND
I’M AN OKORO HATER BUT HE’S +6 IN 5 MINUTES LET HIM FUCKING PLAY KA!!!!!!!!
Georges with the goof oof his foot! Shaq-tin-a-fool.
Get Niang off the floor. Useless on both ends
Jesus. Georges
Georges over Okoro is so egregious tonight.
GET NIANG OFF THE FUCKING COURT KA!!!!
WHY IS NIANG ON THE FUCKING COURT THATS TWICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sam. I. Am.
FINALLY LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO MERRRILLLLLLLLL
Man. Someone help dg out
Finally Merrill converts one
KILL EM DG COOK THESE FRAUDS
Close these fuckers out.
OK LETS GOO TIME TO MAKE OUR MOVE
Get that weak stuff outta here!
DG is back!
Glad to see him!
Good quarter. Worried about Garland.
I wonder if it’s cramps?
well, at least the Cavs have figured out the offense for the most part, now gotta figure out how get more stops.
MOBLEY DOMINATION
Toppin has been quiet.
he usually plays us well, glad he’s been quiet
That’s seven games this year with 3 or more 3P’s made for Mobley!
How’s that not a foul?
Missed the garland play. Was it something in the third, or the first half?
I thought it was from the slip in the 2nd…
I think so, too, he looked uncomfortable from that moment on, even though he stayed on the court.
Oh I thought it was more recent.
McConnell tackled him and his knee is now messed up
OH YEAH EVAN MOBLEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IN YOUR FUCKING FACE DIRTY ASS HOES
MOBL33333333Y
CAVALANCHE!
Niang needs to click McConnell in the jaw
Or hit a 3
This team needs a bruiser.
Freaking a. Garland clocked again.
Dirty ass McConnell takes DG out.
What happened.
Max coming out slinging!
Maximus Strusimus!
Seemed like LeVert should have passed to Strus earlier on that 2 on 1. Could have given it up and then got it back.
yup, or just go up for the layup it was wide open they always play him for the pass.
DG3!
Awful Caris.
Yeah can’t mess up a 2 on 1 fastbreak
Feel like they’re kicking it too much. the basket is open. Shoot it at the rim till they drop more guys.
Mad Max!
Pascal fouls pretty much every possession.
Damn I love how Mobley has added a dependable 3 to his arsenal.
He’s gonna hit a game winner this season book it!
Mobley stepping up.
Pascal hooked Wade
Mobley throwing it down!
I think we are missing Jerome a bit. He comes in and helps settle the team down.
Absolutely. It’s a big factor.
He’s our tj McConnell but better
Especially against the full court press.
Getting pushed around inside again. We need people to make shots and contribute.
we scored 62 points and outrebounded them, we’re getting killed because DG and Spida are turning the ball over
Well this looks a lot like last game. Physically getting beat up..turnovers…can’t handle pressure
Cavs got caught up in the bs, and Garland should’ve taken a seat. Someone gotta set a mid-coutt screen on McConnell. Terrible close, and gotta be stronger with the ball.
DARIUS YOU ARE GETTING DOGWALKED BY TJ FUCKING MCCONNELL
TBF TJ got away with clocking him in the face
Soida caught out looking for the foul. Just shoot it man. Terrible close to the half.
Oh DG….way to let that superb defensive set down.
Our guards can’t handle full court pressure very well. PAs the f..ing ball
IT LOOKS LIKE MOBLEY TIME!!!! FEED YOUR LOCAL BIG MAN!
McConnell fouls, Nembhard travels. Cavs get called for a foul.
PASS THE BALL DARIUS