Live Thread: Cavs @ Hawks, Game 3 (#ChuckTheChuckersChuck?)
2016-05-06[Make sure you check out David’s awesome Wood Shop piece on five man lineups!]
After the Cavaliers rained down historic long-range fire on the heads of the hapless Hawks in Game 2, I was looking forward to Charles Barkley’s post-game eulogy of Atlanta rife with fishing metaphors and veiled shots at their collective manhood. Instead, Chuck went in a bit of a different direction, calling out the Hawks for not “taking someone out” once it was clear the Cavs were just record-hunting in the final quarter by chucking up 11 more threes.
While the wine & gold bench may have been guilty of overzealously trying to set the all-time mark for three pointers in a game, was it really all that disrespectful to a Hawks team that had given up the bulk of the record (22 before the Cavs’ starters all checked out with about four minutes to go in the third) well before garbage time? And, even if it was offensive to them on some level, would it actually warrant causing intentional harm to a Cav to send a message? Clearly, Chuck thought so (Shaq tried to mitigate his comment by asking “you mean touch them up, right?” but Chuck stuck to his guns).
So, thanks in part to Barkley’s soundbite, the conversation immediately following the game seemed to focus less on what the Cavs had achieved historically in their beatdown of Atlanta, and more on whether or not the Hawks would decide to man up and get some physical retribution for this apparent slight. Reporters asked about it. Media talking heads dissected it. Even one old Chuck adversary called him out over it…
Charles Barkley ,you better stop talking s*** about Cleveland you was never tough you hide behind TNT
— Charles Oakley (@CharlesOakley34) May 5, 2016
And of course, the obligatory Chuck response…
https://streamable.com/ulfr?t=38.4
There’s certainly no love lost between the two Charleses, who in addition to sharing a first name, also shared a position, the number 34 and some memorable physical moments on the floor against each other. This one happened in a pre-season game…
So, why spend so much time on this Chuck-foolery? Mainly because there’s not a lot else to talk about or watch for in the (as Ernie Johnson hilariously put it) “if necessary” Game 3. The truth is, unless the Hawks actually decide to get physical and start intentionally trying to hurt the Cavs, they have very little else at their disposal to stop Cleveland’s continued rampage. Sure, the Cavs might (probably will) cool off a bit from their blistering 56% shooting from downtown, and the Hawks may even alter their focus to take the open shots away. However, it would likely be at the expense of packing the paint, which would leave them vulnerable to Cleveland’s ability to attack the rack with abandon.
For his part, Ty Lue doesn’t believe what his guys did was wrong, and he certainly hopes the officials will prevent any sort of impending Chuck-pocalypse…
“I don’t think there’s any place in our game to take someone out if they’re playing well,” Lue said during a conference call with reporters on Thursday. “I think you can take it upon yourself to play harder and do things to stop it or stop a team from playing well. But when it gets into trying to hurt guys or trying to take guys out, that’s just not right. Hopefully the referees will keep an eye on it and make sure it’s a clean game. We don’t mind if it’s a physical game, but clean and everything that they do and we do is basketball related. I don’t believe in taking guys out and trying to hurt guys because a team or a player is playing well.”
LeBron took a more circumspect view on “Chuck being Chuck…”
LeBron James responds to Charles Barkley's comments after the @Cavs dropped 25 3's on the @ATLHawks in Game 2https://t.co/dLw2coZ6Sp
— Bally Sports Cincinnati (@BallySportsCIN) May 6, 2016
Will Atlanta find their inner tough guy… or at least the fake tough guy routine that Al Horford employed in last year’s playoff series when he tried to take out Delly with an atomic elbow? Or will they choose to focus their efforts on trying to at least make the Cavs adjust their game plan and work a bit harder for their points on the road? If they already believe that it’s “Mission: Impossible” like Paul Millsap indicated, it wouldn’t be surprising to see some frustration boil over into aggression.
A likely target could be J.R. Smith who has not only dazzled with his insane array of contested pipe bomb threes, but has also locked down Kyle Korver (allowing only eight shot attempts in the two games with only three makes). As history has shown, J.R. can be susceptible to rankling and retaliation, so the Hawks may try to get under his skin and provoke him to do something stupid.
Odds are that the Cavs will be able to handle whatever the Hawks throw at them, although this should shape up to be the most challenging game of the series to capture. Prediction: The Hawks don’t go down without a fight, and keep this one close to the bitter end. Cavs prevail 102-99.
Catch all the action on ESPN starting at 7 pm (EST)/4 pm (PST), and start Chucking your comments below…
WTF, Kyrie, you get Korver on you and you settle for that?
Hey Draymond, what do you think of Tony Brothers’ crew?
http://a.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/Buzzer/Images/2016/05/04/050416draymondgreen.vadapt.664.high.18.jpg
This is going to be one heart-breaking loss for ATL. Come on Cavs lets do it.
Delly let Teague get back to his right hand.
Hope lbj comes back with intensity. Would love to steal this win and break the hawks
This was intense…
https://vine.co/v/iQqT3ertFrI
MFQ and DEEP FRYE lighting up the night and giving LBJ some good rest!
Cavs need to get some consecutive scores and try to build a lead now. They got the momentum now.
Kyrie again!
https://vine.co/v/iQqj9595VDD
EG, you gotta start teeing up the Dray Dray meme
Here comes MFQ
https://vine.co/v/iQqjr5gFun0
Frye is AMAZING this game!
atleast Irving pass da ball that time and Frye reward him, lets continue. Looks like this game is a old fashion shootout, who makes the most 3’s win
KYRIE AND FRYE INCREDIBLE
Kyrie freezes Horford
https://vine.co/v/iQqjqbzvzrd
WOWOW
Frye for 3
https://vine.co/v/iQqjBxYVlh7
https://twitter.com/tompestak/status/728753478487674880
MFQ we need you
ISO and now a Korver 3, leave dely run the point
Back to the Kyrie ISO… smh…
Cavs have 18 turnovers through 3 quarters. About 5 of them are offensive fouls.
Hawks that quarter…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ics1Jqha6o
Lue is either going to figure out that the Cavs’ offense is rolling better with Delly and Frye, or he’s gonna lose.
10 missed free throws, 18 turnovers and down 6, we sabotaging ourselves
come on cavs -can you shoot better FTs
Take care of the ball, and Cavs should have this
but I find Cavs should have known that roll was coming, they did that coming out of the timeout earlier in the quarter. But for all da hoopla, we only down 6, coulda been worse
OK, I like the energy in the last five minutes.
every time we get any sort of momentum at all the refs screw us
Delly MVP, forcing horford basically for a travel da wasnt called
Tirico: “More ball movement, more passing as we’ve gone deeper into the quarter.” Hmm, what changed? [Delly in for Kyrie.]
was saying the same thing
Why did you think Lue has cut Delly’s minutes? Makes no sense
Ball moving with Delly. Luemhas to see this
DELLY DIME! Into the Fryer!
https://vine.co/v/iQqdrPOwxLE
that’s how you finish (cough kevin…)
89th flop by the HAwks.
It’s ridiculous
I knew it was coming, they calling offensive fouls like crazy
Hawks just flopping away… Is SVG coaching this game for Atl?
LeBron looks like his intensity is picking up. Let’s hope he saved it for the fourth.
Well, he certainly hasn’t used it much so far…
Atlanta flopping like fishes out of water
VERY SMART play by Bron there. Make some freebies, now.
Wow, LBJ’s shot…
How can they wave off the shot when he hit the rim?
They came to their senses. Leb goes 2 for 3 from the line.
Outstanding play by Lebron.
GO SMALL.
Kyrie for three
https://vine.co/v/iQqHnZ5OViB
Another s****y closeout by lebron, and then a stupid triple that we all knew he was missing.
WHERE IS DELLY
they heard you
oh there he is
Kyrie is not even passing the ball on offense, how we going score ?
Passes per possession are probably down about 50% from last game.
Cols will be a lot happier, anyway…
KI stop,the Iso and crappy defense….please
Hubie and Tirico give JR a pat on the back for only taking 2 shots. Wha??
wa happen to TT with his free throws ?
I’m fine with TT. Prolongs the game. HE’ll hit his rhythm.
Man TT’s FT are like 15 degrees flatter this year.
JR hits. Cavs within 4. JR has only taken 2 shots, made both.
https://vine.co/v/iQq6QO1M0IH
I just do not understand what Lue is doing with Delly’s minutes or lack thereof. WTF
Can someone please tell Lue that horford isn’t a shot blocker and to get TT out of the pick n roll?!
all told we’re in darn good shop to only be down 4. let’s turn it on!
LBJ not looking to score much… 10 points on 9 shots…
the way how Lebron was trying to go full speed ahead I thought they would call an offensive foul on him, we already have 3 for the quarter. big scores by Frye and JR to close the gap to 4
Kyrie hits.
https://vine.co/v/iQqr3K1M6jY
let’s go JR
OK, Kyrie, you push the ball, you get JR a look!
Thank god for Frye.
Late late closeouts. Cavs’ bugaboo.
Damnit Kyrie. That was dumb.
frye keeping us in this
https://vine.co/v/iQqrjiEVuXE
Kyrie’s defense… UGH.
TT needs to step up and make these damn free throws, we need the points
Cavs twitter should say: “Take away the refs and we’re right in this”
TT’s free throws are becoming a huge issue.
It’s killing the Cavs offensive flow.
Good strategy by Budenholzer. Bet other coaches will use it against the Cavs.
LeBron needs to show some fire here.