Live Thread/Diatribe: Cavs vs. Nets (#NoDefense)
2018-10-24As the old idiom goes… “a picture is worth a thousand words.” There aren’t many pictures of Mike Longabardi one can find on the internet… but this one speaks the loudest, intentionally or not. This isn’t a new image to most of you, since I’ve used it countless times thus far in this season’s first three games. It’s been elevated to headline status because I’ve already wasted at least a thousand words on the Cavaliers’ assistant coach and purported “defensive guru” (well, at least that’s how Ty Lue thinks of him), and I’d prefer not to waste many more. There should never be anywhere near this amount of words written about an assistant coach for an NBA team… because they should either be able to do their job, or relieved of said job in short order. Yet, here we are…
So, EG… why the diatribe to kick off a live thread? Simply put, nothing matters for this team until the defense returns to even a marginally acceptable level (i.e. not giving up 133 points to the Atlanta Hawks). But EG, are you sure you’re not just scapegoating Longabardi here? Possibly, since it’s just as much Ty Lue’s fault for both bringing Mike into the fold initially, and entrusting the defensive schemes to him. It’s no secret how putrid the Cavalier defense has been on Longabardi’s watch. Literally, the best highlight you can ascribe to him is that the Cavs were one of the worst defensive teams ever to win a championship in 2016.
Last year was a debacle on that side of the floor, with a perimeter defense that resembled a rusty sieve coupled with a soft underbelly inside that produced a lay up line for the opposition most nights. An overriding excuse many chose to digest, was that LeBron James wasn’t particularly fond of closing out, giving much effort or playing anything other than casual free safety during the regular season. And, that this top-down mentality affected all of the King’s men, resulting in an unconscionable 29th ranking on defense by allowing nearly 110 points per game.
This year, with no LeExcuses to fall back on… the wine & gold are hemorrhaging 126.7 points per game through three contests. It might be worse if LeBron had stayed, since his Lakers are one of only two teams giving up more points per game (the Kings are the other at 129.5) at an astounding 132.o clip. Granted, that number is inflated given the OT loss to the Spurs where they surrendered an All Star Game like 143 points. The problem the Cavaliers face, however, is that unlike the Lakers and Kings, they aren’t scoring 122+ points per game. Yet, even in this wacky new NBA landscape, which has been superheated offensively with the change to the 14 second reset shot clock and the growing run and gun mentality, 112.7 points per game (Cavs current average) should be enough to offset even a mediocre defensive strategy.
Isn’t this an overreaction to a three game sample size, EG? Yes and no… I’m usually the last person to jump to conclusions, and it’s certainly possible that the Cavalier coaches can right the ship a little, and bail enough water from this leaky D to level things off to a respectable level and win a few games. However, it’s impossible to ignore how rapidly this vessel is sinking into the depths. I’m generally not a fan of switchy defenses, though I understand their necessity in the modern game. Yet, they tend to be more effective when the players being asked to execute this scheme have actually played together enough to trust it. It’s probably not the ideal strategy to implement with a collective of young players on a learning curve mixed with aging vets who’ve lost a step. But, that’s not stopping Longabardi and Lue from blindly sticking to the script, as if they still had the ultimate mistake eraser on the other end of the floor.
How did we get stuck with Mike Longabardi in the first place you might ask? The guy who was referred to as “Mr. Defense” during his playing days at Newberry College in South Carolina, got his first job in the NBA under Jeff Van Gundy in 2003 as a video coordinator for the Rockets (so, one more thing to blame JVG for). He wound up as an assistant coach in 2007 with the Celtics for both Doc Rivers and Tom Thibodeau and won a championship with them. Things started to go downhill though, after he was named Boston’s defensive coordinator in 2009. He joined Jeff Hornacek in 2013 with the Phoenix Suns, and helped turn the team around (from 25-57 to 48-34) that season. However, he was fired halfway through the 2015-16 season when the Suns were just 12-20 after surrendering 111 points to a one win Sixers team that was actively tanking.
Enter Ty Lue and the Cavs. Less than a week after Lue was promoted to replace a fired David Blatt, they scooped up the unemployed Longabardi to be Lue’s successor as defensive coordinator. Lue clearly had a lot of say in this, as the two had been assistants together on the Celtics. Mind you, the Cavaliers had been one of the best defensive teams in the League to that point in the ’15-16 season, ranking sixth overall in adjusted defensive rating… despite the blowout loss to the Golden State Warriors that got Blatt dismissed. That year, they finished the season allowing 98.3 ppg. The next year, it ballooned to 107.2… and then, finally, to 109.9 last season.
Is Mike Longabardi the entire problem? No… but it’s not like the Cavs defense could get any worse at this point. It’s clear he’s no longer effective, assuming he ever was, as a defensive coordinator. It’s unclear as to why he continues to be employed by the Cavaliers. If the owner and front office are legitimately not attempting to tank the season, then they should rectify this situation immediately. If they secretly are intentionally heading for the bottom… then by all means let Longabardi (and Lue for that matter) go down with the ship.
Okay, I guess I did the opposite of what I intended… because that was just 1,000 words on Mike Longabardi. The picture is still effective though.
Now, about tonight’s game…
The Cavs look for their first win of the season, and to avoid starting 0-4 for the first time since the ’03-04 season when they lost their first five. Though they showed some fight and determination in their first two games, they’ll need to bounce back from a forgettable effort against the Atlanta Hawks. Most expected the offense to be a work in progress, yet the defense (as noted ad nauseam above) has weighed in at a shocking 122.4 rating through three games.
Kevin Love, Cedi Osman and Collin Sexton will look to have better shooting games, and hopefully Tyronn Lue can start to settle into some recognizable rotations that make some semblance of sense. He definitively needs to at least figure out the second quarter, where the Cavs have been outscored 111-72 thus far this season, allowing opponents to shoot 52% in those frames, while his squad averages just 40%. If you’re looking for positives… Love is currently third in the NBA in rebounding (14.7 per game) and Jordan Clarkson is currently fourth in bench scoring (17.7 ppg).
The Nets come in shooting 48% on the season, so they’re likely to try and follow the game plan against the Cavs and alternately bomb away from deep or run them off the floor in transition. They have Caris LeVert averaging 24.7 points on 65% shooting, and they get Rondae Hollis-Jefferson back tonight for his first game of the season.
Probable starting lineups:
Cavs: Cedi Osman, Kevin Love, Tristan Thompson, Rodney Hood, George Hill
Nets: Joe Harris, Jared Dudley, Jarrett Allen, Caris LeVert, D’Angelo Russell
Prediction: Unless Mike Longabardi gets fired between now and the start of tonight’s game, the Cavs will once again have no defense against a team that can get up and down the floor and shoot the three decently… Nets take it 117-111.
Catch all the action from the Q at 7pm EST on Fox Sports Ohio. And, as always, chime in below… and try not to waste too many words on Longabari like I just did…
Could Cleveland State beat the Cavs?
Wow… not many things uglier than that last TT dribble push shot…
He could be an MLB knuckleballer. I thought that thing was gonna be a wedgie.
Tristan Thompson UGH.
Joe finally misses a three…
I cant imagine having season tickets to this nightmare. The game is basically a pickup game at this point, and the cavs are still air balling shtuff.
Cavs trading for Dinwiddie and then overpaying him seems inevitable.
At least he shoots threes…
What are they doing on offense tonight? Are the nets defending really well? Cavs not executing? Only 14 threes when you have Korver, JR, Frye, Hill, and Love is probably not the way to win. Nets bottling up the line, or are the cavs not getting penetration/running no pin downs for Korver?
Nobody knows what they’re supposed to be doing… zero sets being run…
Well, no wonder they are getting thumped. Think my opinion on Lue is set. You just can’t run an improvised offense with this personnel.
JR with the hoop of the year!
https://twitter.com/FOXSportsOH/status/1055262736945311744
Sexton ok? He really went up and down hard.
Defense just a rumor… the next offensive set will be the first…
Ed Davis is like TT if TT didn’t suck.
Nets in bonus with 9:30 to go.
Yikes… airball floater from Sexton…
Sexton with that GD worthless floater.
This sucks. Is this the year that the draft odds change?
Yep
The fact that the lower bowl is still full is really something.
Just like a toilet…
There’s the first PG assist…
My worry holdover from preseason: has Sexton looked for anyone off the dribble drive? I will answer–no…that would be averaging 1 (!) assist in 22 minutes per game. In case one wonders, Clarkson’s got 1.3 in 23 minutes, and Hill has 3.0 in 28 minutes…what position did Ty Lue play?
Need JR to get hot…
Cavs are going to get some players on other teams PAID this year…
Cavs need to clean house and bring someone in to run this whole org.
Or Dan should sell the team
No, Bite your tongue. I still want to go to the games up there. Just which ….. team can they win against…..?? Yikes!
It’ll always be Dan…
Sexton hits a swinging bunt single and gets two free throws.
As AC says… Zero assists from the point guards tonight for Cavs…
Cavs just need to start jacking 3s.
Nets 6-10 from three that quarter…
0-82… let’s make it happen. We need another parade /s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx5N-4JvVyk
JR passed up a wide open pull-up three in a two-for-one situation and the Cavs ended up with a terrible possession. This “offense” is offensive.
That’s a good title for the recap!
The ‘Lebron offense’ sans Lebron…good stuff…
I’ll give Clarkson credit for at least taking a 3.
Nothin’ like a 38-17 quarter…
Missing a 2-for-1 opportunity — not everything has changed since LeBron left.
No way they are winning the two games after this, then Hawks after that…
That turnover said it all–Nance gives it to KK to bring it up, KK muddles a backward pass to Nance at the 3 point line for a steal… do they know whose role is whose? Why is the point guard not setting up the O?
Let’s trade Lue for Hue, just so I can hear Hue tell us that he’s the head coach 82 games out of the year instead of 16 games. Lue can tell Baker to be aggressive.
Pistons might win by 40 tomorrow…
We could lose by 40 tonight
And now it’s a layup line with the overcompensating perimeter headless chicken defense…
Yeah agree with the idea of hunting for 3s
But they don’t have the shooting. Love + ??
Korver, JR, Hill.
Frye
CTR+ALT+DELETE
The season.
Now they’re’ just jacking shots!
Man. The Cavs are in their own head.
This team is quitting on their coach.
How about a block out Larry?
Allen is KILLLING them.
Another brilliant coaching by lue and longbardi…..clock is ticking
This is what happens when you don’t have the best player in the world and an unstable front office. It starts at the top!
Cavs should be hunting for three point opportunities… instead, the opposite…
LOL. Clarkson with a Classic Kobe bucket.
Can’t imagine Kev would be opposed to being traded away from this mess…
Oh good… now LeVert is waking up…
And the vets are not playing smart–whose issue is that? Everyone said the right things in between games, but do they really believe they are in the best position to win these games?
Lavert TRAVELED
How is Love not getting any shots?
Nance and Korver running across the floor to triple team leaving a wide open shooter… no excuse…
My 3rd/4th grade rec ball team doesn’t do that
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Haha…. let’s see how many games in a row they can lose. Maybe they can break their previous record?
Hope the Hawks weren’t expecting that pick…
Cavs need to go small cause the Nets aren’t respecting the Cavs’ centers at all.
no chemistry…no defined roles…clearly no plays…and no shooting from 3. pretty easy to imagine that going poorly.
Yet another wide open corner trey…
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/1055256008182894593
23-5 in less than 6 minutes.
20-4 run by the Nets… smh
Has Lue benched anyone for playing bad D yet?
Cedi rough this stretch…
Don’t know what sort of contract Hood is expecting next year…
The coaching adjustments are just embarrassing the Cavs.
WHY Cedi??
Larry gotta take that free throw J if they’re not gonna respect him.
Bring back Whammer!
We hold our own against 2 good teams to start the season and then suck versus a couple of the worst teams. It’s like there’s a problem with the coaching staff.
It’s literally exactly like last year. The players have no clue what they’re supposed to do. Except this year, we don’t have Lebron to tell them.
FIRE LONGABARDI
And Lue too.