Live Thread: Cavs vs Knicks
2020-12-29The Knicks come to town to night with our old friend Alec Burks leading the way, averaging a surprising 20 in his first three games. Sadly, he’s out tonight (ankle) , as this this turning into a battle of the walking wounded between these two squads. Joining Burks in NBA dress attire for the Knicks: Obi Toppin (calf), Immanuel Quickley (hip), Dennis Smith Jr. (calf), and Austin Rivers (groin).
For Cleveland the list is more worrisome. Kevin Love is out three weeks with strained calf. Playing him injured in the second game of a back-to-back when he went through double overtime the night before remains the team’s dumbest early season decision for an organization that has mostly avoided them.
Also concerning: Isaac Okoro has entered the NBA’s “health and safety protocol” and is out. This likely means he has either a positive Covid-19 test or reported an exposure. Hopeful he makes a quick and full recovery. Ice joins Dylan Windler (hand), Kevin Porter Jr (personal), Matthew Dellavedova (concussion).
Look for Dean Wade to get some more minutes at the backup four spot, and for the Cavs to use Dante Exum at multiple positions to fill in the gaps. Before the injuries, I expected the Knicks to use a game play to take away the Cavs strengths. Basically, I expected them to do what Detroit and Philly failed to do: play Andre Drummond one on one and not over-react to his gravity.
Much of the reason that the field goal percentage of Cavs’ guards and wings is so high is because teams are over-reacting to Drummond on the roll and in the post, and his gravity is creating a layup line for the Cavs ball-handlers (as is his defense when it feeds the transition). I expect the Knicks to be more disciplined, and I expect to see more Mitchell Robinson on Drummond than the wiry Nerlens Noel.
Also interesting to see: whether the Knicks dissect the Cavs’ zone with hot outside shooting like they did in the pre-season. Personally, I am expecting a bit of a regression for before the coming road trip Cleveland as they and their fans may have been reading too much of their own press, and guys like Frenchie Long Arms (Fank Ntilikina) have killed them when pressed into duty in the past.
Let’s hope the Cavs can overcome the disease of more, and better coaching than they’ve faced so far now that Thibs has three games worth of film to look at. Should be a fun one!
See y’all Thursday!
Time to take the blue jackets to the Stanley cup in NHL 94 rewind.
Good summation. https://twitter.com/johnhollinger/status/1344104831401816070?s=20
He was right… until the last line…
Yeah, Payton is just a guy at best….he was born to play on this Knicks team…
Thibs is a good coach. Good game plan against the cavs. Cavs guards got a little too happy with themselves.
Thibs is a poor man’s Doc Rivers… and yes that was meant as an insult…
Hoping they miss wide open shots is an awesome game plan… especially when that happens…
Again, we said the same thing!
Okoro and Love would’ve helped this game…
Agreed.
this was a team from a year ago
Yeah, like a time machine without a hot tub.
Eh… the D was still pretty solid… just couldn’t make open shots
That is very fair. But the first quarter the ball was pinging around (shots not dropping) In the second half it just seemed like we didn’t have an offense. Cedi sharpshooting was a nice touch in games 1 -> 3
When Sexton is the primary ball handler out there, he still gets into his old crummy habits. Funny to say, after I slammed too many minutes of Sexland together, he’s much better with DG out there playing point.
Sexton definitely should not be running the offense.
Collin overdribbling.
Too much Randle… not enough made shots…
And Sexton dribbles it away…
Slow down, Andre.
Lol
Well that’s probably all she wrote. I seem to be the bad luck 🤣🤣🤣
Knicks getting away with a lot of away from the ball contact on offense.
Knicks 58% from 3. Cavs 22%. Ballgame.
Yep.
Make or miss league
Cake or piss league
Ha!
Lol
Yeah… too big a shooting hole to climb out of I think…
Missed 3Q, box score looks ugly. This is the type of game we could use Love’s scoring.
Bad gamble Collin.
Junior triple!
Trip double for Randle now…
HUGE three from Larry!
LOL…
https://twitter.com/cavs/status/1344101125956358146?s=20
I don’t much like Randle’s game, never have, but the Knicks are going to sucker some sweet deal out of someone at the deadline if he keeps this up…
Randle three could be the nail.
Sexton gave Larry that too late. His p/r timing is rough at times.
Way the Cavs are shooting, that Randle second chance three might be the early dagger…
Hurts not having Dre in there…
Gotta hit those DG…
Awesome d!
Nice D Collin
The real test is going to be the next game after a loss. Do the Cavs stay to what’s been proving successful, moving the ball, active defensive hands, playing hard and playing right or do they devolve into a lottery pick ball club? Stay the course boys, no one is going to win them all.
JaVeel Mc3!
Osman got HAMMERED
Yeah, no help from the zebras on that one
Collin! A blur!
Strong drive by Sexton… then dumb mistake by Knicks on inbounds… momentum?
Keep the Mo’…
I guess JaVale is the go to guy from three to close out the game…
Ok!
Unreal.
JA-VALE MA-GEE!!!
Oof. Stop with the her shots, guys.
Ball movement abandonment…
I’d give dot a shot over cedi tonight.
DG pass to Sexton who then iso’s. No no no.
Cedi and Sexton have been bad. Nance helpful on D and non existent O. Hard to win
Ball don’t lie.
Yeezus Collin… what’s the plan?
Too many second chances that time…
Back to Earth, huh.
Ugh… five fouls on Dre
I barely recognize Payton without his The Weeknd coif…
Wow! Drum roll!
This is frustrating. Obviously the Cavs are making mistakes, but by far the biggest problem is missing easy shots.
Welp… gonna need to force some turns and hit some shots…
Cedi with an awful decision on that drive just feed the GD post.
I think Cedi either didn’t get any sleep, or was at a wine tasting event all afternoon…
Drummond can’t stop everything. Someone gotta box out.
Wow… Payton has short-armed half a dozen finger rolls tonight…
Will be a fun 4th quarter I predict. Randle is gassed. Can Barrett step up?
Sexton –
Cmon man!!
I would recommend going inside to the big guys for a few tries before trying to hit 3’s.
Yeezus Cedi…
Bad night.
No ground made up that quarter, but no ground lost either.
Let’s see if the Cavs can grind this out on a night their shot isn’t falling.
Someone gotta get hot… thought it might be DG after those first few that quarter…
Sexton’s timing with Nance leaves a lot to be desired.
Gotta dunk that, Andre.
Drummond again proving my point about getting a better shot plan at the rim…
Agreed. Thought of u on that miss.
Ugh. That three.
Nice feed Drummond. Twin towers lineup.
Nice big man game! Awesome dish from Dre
Sexton gotta get a better shot than an elbow pull-up with 14 on the clock.
Very Rose-like of him.
JaVale might be almost as good as Tristan was at getting second chance boards and tips…
I didn’t think he was this good. But he’s been really good.
Ah JaVale…