Cavs Week in Review (or, Shoutout to the Dawgz), Live Thread: Cavs @ Hornets
2023-03-12Good afternoon CtB!
Here’s a retrospective for your reading pleasure…
1. Celtics 114, Cavs 118 OT (or, Return of the Dawg)
The Cavs were on the struggle bus for the first three quarters of the game against the hospital Boston Celtics, when Coach J.B. Bickerstaff decided to sic junkyard dawg Lamar Stevens on the Celtics for a furious fourth quarter run that allowed the Cavs to steal the game in overtime 118-114. The Cavs authored one of the funniest moments of the season by collectively icing Grant Williams on the free throw line to send the game into overtime:
"I'mma make both."
Grant Williams to Donovan Mitchell before missing BOTH free throws in a 109-109 game with 0.8 remaining 💀😂pic.twitter.com/pFDFCDtiN9
— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) March 7, 2023
The Cavs’ defensive rebounding numbers have plummeted to the bottom of the barrel ever since Kevin Love was benched and subsequently bought out (ranked 26th in the NBA since February 1st). But top dawgs Evan Mobley (17 rebounds), Donovan Mitchell (11 rebounds), and Lamar Stevens (eight rebounds in only 17 minutes) showed the type of collective will to win that the Cavs will need to sustain going forward into the playoffs.
On the offensive end, Spida (40 points), Evan (25 points), and Darius Garland (17 points, 12 assists) put on special performances that got the Cavs over the hump against one of the best defenses in the NBA in Boston. The most disappointing part of the game was the Cavs’ role players not offering any rebounding prowess despite their size and athleticism. Rebounding is all about hustle and effort, and there wasn’t enough of it for too many guys in this game. It’s no surprise that J.B. decided to turn to Lamar to get the job done, and J.B. would do well to try and get Dean Wade going who’s now ranked third on the team in defensive rebound rate.
2. Cavs 104, Heat 100 (or, Winning Ugly)
The Cavs were able to steal a solid, if unspectacular, win down in South Beach taking out the Miami Heat 104-100 by winning an ugly, defensive battle that reflected the days of yore in the Eastern Conference. The Cavs were able to survive the refball merchant Jimmy Butler’s virtuoso performance with one of their own from Darius Garland. Jarrett Allen awoke from his Boston Celtics slumber to tally a nice 15 points, 12 rebounds double-double. The Cavs were able to force 22 turnovers and outassist the Heat 26-22, which was really the difference in the game.
3. Cavs 115, Heat 119 (or, Too Much South Beach)
The Cavs squandered an MVP performance from Donovan Mitchell and an excellent Jarrett Allen performance with a terrible team defensive performance to take the loss against the Heat 115-119. The Cavs gave up a 50/40/90 offensive performance to the Heat along with getting obliterated on the boards 46-34, including 11 offensive rebounds. Evan Mobley may have had one of his worst performances of the year with only four rebounds and a -18 plus/minus in only 28 minutes of action. Outside of Jarrett Allen, no one was interested in rebounding on defense and Coach Bickerstaff continues to keep Dean Wade on ice even though he’s clearly the third best defensive rebounder on the team. J.B.’s continual insistence to shrink the rotation post-All-Star Break to eight players appeared to exacerbate the lack of energy the Cavs displayed in the in the fourth quarter, when they were completely obliterated 37-26 in crunch time with Mitchell playing 43 minutes and Caris LeVert logging 39 minutes due to Darius Garland’s absence. The #FREENETO movement remains alive and well especially for a game like this against a Heat roster that lowkey stinks.
4. Playoff Snapshot
The Cavs are starting to solidify home court advantage for the first round of the playoffs by becoming more entrenched into the fourth seed of the Eastern Conference. The Philadelphia 76ers have created some separation for the third seed, and the New York Knicks have hit the skids with a three game losing streak. The Brooklyn Nets continue to tread water post-KD, and for the Cavs’ sake it would be really nice if they could eek out the fifth seed in the conference. The Cavs have one of the easiest schedules in the NBA to close out the regular season, so the Cavs just need to continue to hold serve and they should lock up home court advantage. This will help with the new Jarrett Allen and Darius Garland injuries, the Cavs don’t have to do anything special to hold on.
5. Next up, the Charlotte Hornets
The Cavs continue their tour of the Southeastern United States with a stop in the Carolina Piedmont to take on the Charlotte Hornets. Charlotte has no interest in winning, so the Cavs would do well to oblige their tanking desires, Go Cavs!
cap/LT up
Lets go all out and get the W tonight and who cares about tomorrow. All wins are created equal :)
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Welcome,,,,I’m a Cleveland native,living in Nashville for 33 yrs.
Sam Merrill – NOMAD will be stoked!
A like for like replacement for Windler?
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1635393850742300672?s=20
bummer
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1635380601019858944?s=20
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/1635655347565219840?s=20
This is pretty surprising to me considering that’s our last roster spot. I guess we’re not getting any more bigs.
proof that Koby listens to NOMAD
I don’t think it matters. It’s not like JB is gonna play anyone we acquire at this point.
wtf? has he even been on the floor with the varsity yet?
Break up the Rockets!
Rockets up by 3 against the Celtics with 10 seconds left.
Wow Tatum misses an easy layup and the Rockets win.
Happy days!
Athletic Power Rankings: 6. Cleveland Cavaliers (previously eighth) | 43-27 | +5.6 net rating Weekly slate: Win over Celtics, Win at Heat, Loss at Heat, Win at Hornets Lineup: Darius Garland | Donovan Mitchell | Isaac Okoro | Evan Mobley | Jarrett Allen Stats: 359 minutes | +4.5 net rating | 120.6 offensive rating | 116.1 defensive rating This is a very confusing lineup in how it performs. It’s not confusing that it’s been successful. That’s a really good net rating to have when you’re racking up all those minutes together. The confusing part is how bad the defense is.… Read more »
Okoro has the ability to be a very good one on one wing defender in spurts. He is not actually a great defender when not on ball. Caris knows angles and spacing and anticipates a lot that okoro doesnt
I actually think it has more to do with Mobley and Allen not wanting to step out to the perimeter against small ball lineups. Their defensive rating together this season is ~113, which kind of stinks.
Individually 107 for Allen, 109 for Mobley… better defensively apart, granted these numbers are produced against lineups with backups, so YMMV.
NBA has their 2 man defensive rating as 110. That would be 5th in the league (comparing to teams’ overall rating). It is surprisingly high in the context of the team, but the Cavs don’t really have bad defensive lineups.
NBA probably calculates ratings differently than pbpstats, because the margins and minutes are the same. Regardless, compared to splitting them up, they’re obviously better defensively when one doesn’t have to cover the arc.
Also, the thread began with the Athletic article reporting that the starting lineup is in fact a bad defensive lineup LMFAO IIRC, the one with Stevens starting at the 3 is even worse IIRC.
Yes, I copied and pasted the entire post from the Athletic.
Looking right now at Cavs lineup data and driving myself insane LMFAOOOO send JB to Siberia!!!
Starting lineup + Caris 99.5 drtg in over 200 minutes of action.
JB: Lets start Okoro (116.1 drtg), and if not Okoro, Stevens (118.1)!!!
Levert does get way more minutes than Okoro though. I think the lineups make more sense if you break it down to 4 or 3 man units. I’m guessing the idea is you need somebody off the bench who can actually score while also benefitting from developing Okoro with the starting unit. It certainly gets more indefensible considering he stuck with the disastrous Mobley/Love/Levert lineup for so long.
Also worth noting tho that Levert is in our most used 4th quarter 5 man lineup (since January), and 4 of the 5 most used 4th quarter lineups
Agreed, JB is willing to yank Okoro faster than LeVert for sure. I’d disagree with the idea 3 or 4 man lineups make more sense, there are 5 guys out there at all times… while I get the reasoning behind what you’re saying re starting Okoro/Caris off the bench, I think it’s flat out dumb of the Cavs to do it when the clock is ticking on Mitchell. I think LeVert starting and finishing is the pathway to optimizing the success of the Cavs post-season, it wouldn’t surprise me if JB eventually makes that change. I’d just prefer it to… Read more »
Good points! But a lot of teams do this to sort of balance and stagger the talent, Vert’s already playing starters minutes. This could be a clue as to why we get off to bad starts (though I wonder if there is actually any data to that and it’s not just me)
No somehow the Cavs I think are pretty much dominant at all times of the game LMFAOOO, but they are still a top 3 underachieving team on nbastuffer.com’s ACH metric and that’s been pretty consistent all season for the Cavs.
how does this stat even work?! seems crazy to calculate
Its a simple calculation, Pythagorean win expectancy minus actual win %.
They have their own proprietary win expectation number because various stat nerds like their own multiplier against point differential, but it’s all the same just subtracting it from the real win %.
good point.
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plus, Asheville is such a cool spot (other than traffic!)
Pretty impressive win defense by DG on Rozier down the stretch. That was the key diff to me.
Had to chuckle at Darius’ postgame interview when he talked about defensive intensity leading to steals and starting to ‘get the crowd going’ at an away game. I mean, he’s probably just going to his well of clichés, but still it seems like it wasn’t exactly an intimidating atmosphere.
Really nice game for DG. Rubio looking more himself, hopefully he can build on this game.
Sure wish we had more insider info on Dean Wade. You’d think he’d get some run in these games. That said, between Caris and Lamar they got the job done.
Mitchell was getting MVP chants at the end. So this is believable.
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and I am going to a meeting in Toronto this week, so there won’t much adult supervision.
We’ll try to get by, but don’t be surprised if there’s minor damage when you return.
Hadn’t seen the “I’ll make ‘em both” video until now. DELICIOUS.
Dude is basically young Jae Crowder except not quite as dumb. Probably.
high standard to meet. Crowder got dumb he ain’t used yet.
Just some random notes.. we are 5th in the league record wise at 43-27.. and 4 out of the 5 top teams are from the East besides Denver.
Cavs are 2nd in net Rating at +5.3 while Boston is at 5.5.. last year we were +2.1 (13th in the league).
good stuff
Cavs this season as betting favorites:
56 games
40-16 record
Meaning non betting favorites record is:
14 games
3-11
Imagine if we won more of the games we were “most likely” to win..
But can’t complain.. solid 4th seed so far this season.
Missed this one…did they give further updates on Allen?
No structural damage, which is good news.
Nice game for DG, but man, he missed some shots the last few minutes he usually makes. Making a couple of those would have made this less stressful.
I really hate playing this team. Seems like it’s the same crap every game the last couple of seasons.
think DG was dragging at the end, he had to play a lot with Spida and Mobley in foul trouble the first half.
Our next win (hopefully against Charlotte).. will tie our win total from last year at 44 ..
Would love for us to go on a mini win streak against Philly (payback and to pickup on the GB), and against Nets to increase the lead against them.
yeah buddy!
Cavs +/- this game: +6 win
DG: +22
Ricky: +17
Evan: +15
Caris: +8
Lamar: +7
Cedi: -5
Robin: -9
Isaac: -12
Mitchell: -13
Cavs 4th quarter:
11/18 FG (61%) – 33 points
Fast break points: 6 pts (3/3 FG)
Points in the paint: 14 pts (7/10 FG)
Mitchell: 4/5 FG – 10 Points, 2 steals
Mobley: 3/3 FG (10 points), 3 rbs, 1 ast
Levert: 2/4 FG (5 points), 2 rbs, 1 steal
Rubio: 2/3 FG – 5 points, 2 rbs
Garland: 0/3 FG – 3 points, 1 rb, 1 ast
Charlotte 4th quarter
6/16 FG = 19 points (37%)
hell yeah great posts Sweetchi!
Cavs keep a 3-game lead on Brooklyn.
Cavs win! ugly but still it a W
JB having to go with essentially a 7 man rotation against the tanking Hornets LMFAOOOOo luckily Rubio and Caris were cooking!
DM getting MVP chants.. the Cavs fans travelled…
On the pregame show I saw a Garland jersey.