
Recap: Knicks 106, Cavs 95 (or, Out with a Whimper)
2023-05-03The Cavs lost 106-95 to the New York Knicks to get gentleman’s swept out of the first round of the 2023 NBA Playoffs. Here’s a retrospective on that fateful night and some other meandering thoughts on the Cavs’ 2022-23 season…
1. Out with a Whimper
Sadly the NBA playoff pressure cooker revealed that the Cavs’ junkyard dawg mentality was more wishcasting than reality. They showed very little competitive toughness throughout the series, getting outrebounded by a million boards. A bunch of calculator nerds have elaborate explanations about “defensive coverages” and “scrambling defenses” as the reasons why the Cavs sucked at rebounding, but real hoopers know that rebounding is purely about effort and hustle, two things that the Cavs sorely lack throughout the series. Jarrett Allen was completely outclassed by Mitchell Robinson and Isaiah “Hard Rock” Hartenstein. Allen’s role on the team is to do the dirty work, but instead the Cavs got a prima donna performance. Will Jarrett Allen ever show the physicality needed to survive playoff basketball? He’s never shown it in his career unfortunately, but hopefully it’s more a matter of his youthfulness than unwillingness. Tower City’s first run in the playoffs was a disaster, the future viability of the lineup ought to be scrutinized next season and into next year’s playoffs should they be so lucky to make it again.
2. It began with J.B…
The bad vibes of the Cavs 2022-23 season began with Coach J.B. Bickerstaff’s idiotic decision to indefinitely bench NBA Champion Kevin Love in late January for the services of teacher’s pet Lamar Stevens and an injured and completely ineffective Dean Wade. With J.B.’s public noncommittal stance towards future Love minutes, Kevin Love rightfully asked and was granted a buyout from the Cavs to join the Miami Heat. To this day, there are still bozos in Cavs’ fandom who wrongfully think Love was killing the Cavs on defense… allow yours truly to re-iterate yet again how stupid that take is when looking at the evidence:
From Kevin Love’s benching, Cavs ranked 29th in the NBA in defensive rebound rate @ 68.3%
Prior to Love’s benching, Cavs ranked 3rd in the NBA in defensive rebound rate @ 73.6%
From Kevin Love’s benching, Cavs’ defensive rating: 110.0
Prior to Love’s benching, Cavs’ defensive rating: 109.8
That’s right the defense without Love got slightly worse, and the defensive rebounding went from one of the best with Love to one of the worst in the NBA without Love. Also keep in mind the Cavs’ schedule was front loaded, so the Cavs should’ve performed better on defense if Love was actually “killing the defense” that much.
J.B.’s terrible decision-making didn’t end there. It continued throughout the Knicks playoff series with zero adjustments to the Knicks’ prolific rebounding, whether it was going ultra big with Dean Wade at the small forward position or ultra small with Wade and Stevens in the front court as small ball bigs. Here are the four best defensive rebounders the Cavs had going into the Knicks series:
How many minutes did Dean Wade and Lamar Stevens play in the Knicks series? 19 minutes combined. Yes that’s right, J.B. Bickerstaff decided to play the two players he deemed more important than Kevin Love a combined 19 minutes in the playoffs.
Despite Cavs’ POBO Koby Altman’s full throated defense of Bickerstaff in the end of season presser, the era of good feelings ought to be over for a coach that’s sub .500 for his career with a 2-8 playoff record, 2-9 if one includes the play-in. There’s also a long documented history of Bickerstaff-led teams lacking any sort of creativity on the offensive end, which reared its ugly head in the Knicks series. There was zero chance that Koby Altman would can Bickerstaff this off-season, which I’ve consistently said here and on podcasts alike. But if another season goes by and another flame out in the playoffs? One would have to think that would force Altman’s hand… the question now is whether that will be too late given the ticking clock that is Donovan Mitchell’s contract. Speaking of Donovan Mitchell…
3. Mitchell didn’t show up
When you’re the superstar player and potential All-NBA player, there are expectations that you’ll step up when the lights are brightest. The opposite happened for Donovan Mitchell, who shrank in the moment and validated the concerns of those who say he’s not a number one option on a championship team. What’s interesting about Mitchell’s advanced stats is that his usage declined (31% vs. 29.6%) and his assist rate went up dramatically (14.9 to 21.6) when compared to the regular season. To yours truly, it suggests a bit of passivity in his game, that he lost confidence and became indecisive once his shot wasn’t falling. There’s certainly an argument that he should’ve shot less considering how his true shooting percentage cratered in the playoffs (51.8%). Whatever the problem was, Mitchell needs to figure it out, because the Cavs are only going as far he is able to take them.
4. Silver linings?
There were a couple of silver linings in the playoffs for the Cavs such as the defense of Evan Mobley (102.2 defensive rating while on the court). Darius Garland, Isaac Okoro, and Caris LeVert found some scoring rhythm in the playoffs. Cedi Osman found some rebounding prowess. Yes this might be grasping at straws, but maybe these positives could’ve been leveraged further with a better game plan and adjustments from the coaching staff. At the very least, the young guys got their first taste of playoff basketball, the experience should serve them well in the future.
5. Thank you CtB
While the team may have lost their competitive edge, the CtB Commentariat never loses their edge. Thank you to all that read and commented this season, it’s humbling to be around the great basketball minds of Cavs’ fandom. It was a fun season, bitter ending, and the offseason should be an interesting one with a wheeler and dealer such as Koby Altman, Go Cavs!
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Klay owes more of his fame to Curry than even Bray does…
There’s the one thing I could never stomach about James….the soccer-style exaggeration every time he draws heavy contact.
Selling the crap out of it.
Yeah, it’s tired…
Klay 3-16, lot of them pretty open…just brutal…
I truly loathe when they show the courtside celebs in LA…I felt exactly the same way when they did it in 1981…
Nice game for Lebron so far.
Schroeder is a moron…2nd tech…
Although that tech looked weak…you never know what guys are saying, though…
Klay is so washed…
He’ll make the shots in the clutch.. cant count him out.
Warriors since Steve Kerr has been at the helm are 8-2 in their past 10 elimination games.. hence why they arent out until you’ve reached 4 games in a series.. and I’m assuming those two losses are probably Game 7 versus Cleveland and against Toronto.. that’s pretty damn good.
I have no idea why Kerr hasn’t realized that Poole is completely unplayable in this series. Maybe in any series. It’s infuriating to even see him on the court. He’s like Jamal Crawford if Crawford just completely sucked ass at everything. One of the top 5 worst contracts in the league once his extension kicks in.
Anyone else think that on an obvious out of bounds call like that .that it should get overturned without a team having to use a challenge
Bron playing like he wants it. Maybe feeling a bit better.
Lakers front row bro like he just hit that three personally.
Nice start for the Lakers
Hunting Curry relentlessly.
How much screaming at the refs will Draymond do tonight?
Kevin Love advances to the conference finals. Dean Wade, his replacement, is mining goats in Kansas.
Just imagine how good the Heat could be if they stopped playing Love.
Goodnight New York!
Lol I love a good CtB jinx!
Good night, New York!!’
That should probably do it, unless Brunson flops himself into a touchdown play
Bruxton blew it
That’s a terrible call
Garbage call
That’s prob a flagrant 1
Brunson sold the shit out of that.
Gotta be a common foul
Dumb move by Vincent
I think that secondary sales job gonna doom him.
If the Heat get a stop and a bucket it’s over
Both these teams executing so much better than the Cavs.
Bam looked he was fouled on that dunk
Lowry got away with an obvious travel.
Knicks benefitting from Ricky tack fouls
Only way their gonna score. Grovelling & flopping.
Great D and execution by Miami.
That call was dumb. Brunson really flopping all over the place here.
Brunson flopping around
Zzz. That third was a grind.
Haha. Was thinking the same thing. Not the most exciting game I’ve watched.
Knicks had a 14 point lead and are now down 1
I think Miami closes it out.
Brunson can’t do it by himself. Miami will choke his teammates out.
Let’s go, Kev and Co! (Though they’ve been better with him on the bench).
RJ as a commentator too.
hmm.. cavs go all in on mitchell.. get humiliated by a lesser team in an embarrassing 4-1 trouncing.. suns go all in on durant and get bounced (albeit in a slightly less shameful manner).. is there a lesson to be learned ? how about if you are able to smell talent and draft well and hire competent coaches (cavs aren’t even in this conversation), then perhaps you don’t need to pretend you are at the world series of poker, going all-in on “sure bets”.. no such thing as a “sure bet”.. they are all long shots.. both cavs and suns… Read more »
Blow it up because it didn’t work in Year 1. Got it.
only gets worse for this crew.. bank it..
dead silent for six months or so, reincarnated with tidings of joy when things go bad
LOL. Spot on.
regular season was fine (actually pretty darn great).. the choke job in the playoffs is a problem.. go back and look at buck’s record in the playoffs.. when they were down in the first game i said i smelled an “odor”.. when they were down in game 3 i stated that the odor had become a “stench” and that my take was that it was over (which it was.. 3 straight losses).. you were optimistic watching the implosion ? it appears that spida can win some regular season games (and exciting to watch, no doubt), but come crunch time old… Read more »
Buck, your dark thoughts have coaxed out my own dread, which I have been reluctant to write about. I still think it is early, but after our recent gentleman’s sweep, I had this thought that I couldn’t get rid of. Mitchell Robinson was bad mouthing the Cavs this year, this young bunch of guys whom I really like and who had done well during the regular season. That reminded me of the late 80’s, early 90’s Cavs of Daugherty, Price and the rest. Great bunch of guys (well coached), would always do well during the regular season, but just didn’t… Read more »
GSW should blow it up based on Buck’s analysis.
Price was never the same after the suckerpunch concussion from the Detroit thug. They probably would have beat the Bulls most years otherwise.
I don’t think it’s that bleak, but they definitely need a new coach, or Mitchell is gone IMO.
who would you like in a tournament between the first, second, and third All-NBA teams?
I like 2nd Team
me too
I’ve only missed the first half but looks like I’ve actually missed the game. Man.
Jokic wants to end this tonight. When he gets help from other guys, hard to imagine anyone beating them.
it will be great if it goes down to them and the 76’ers!
I actually don’t care for a Denver / Philly final.. despite how good Denver is.. it’s just meh for me… probably because a lot goes through big men which doesn’t interest me that much..
But the two last MVP’s going at it would be a good story line.
I’m rooting for a Boston / Lakers finals with Lebron and the Lakers winning.
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Phoenix is toast.
Clearly Jokic is no joke.Pretty impressive.
Monty Williams might be next if the Suns lose tonight.. getting blown out on your home floor two years in a row after making the finals.. that’s rough…
Looking at how the Suns are getting blown out… I’m going to take the Cavs home loss of 11 by the Knicks than this 25-30 blowout at this point..I would be sooo pissed as a fan.. I knew I was when I was in the arena for the Cavs game.
Wonder if Suns would look at breaking it up?
Whoops looks like I started something
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Maybe this was asked somewhere along the last three weeks…is there an end-of-year podcast or wrap-up coming from CtB? This season is lacking catharsis without it…and it would be much appreciated.
Yes. I just gotta post it.
I want to see Steven A and Jalen Rose in a steel cage match!
Donovan Mitchell at the game
Just saw him talking to JT.. Jayson really came up clutch after a no show .. really impressive when it counts. .. I just really don’t want Philly move ahead.
Me too!
He was there ready to recruit Jaylen Brown in case Boston lost. :)
Philly kind of choked 😂
Boston forces a game 7
Agree with commentators. Actually think 76ers stars have been lethargic most of the game.
Tatum finally coming to life with b2b
3’s
Fairly large moment for his reputation if he pulls this win out.
And another 3 for Tatum
Huge
tatum shitting the bed.. outstanding.. the boys from southie are going to ride him hard and long for this epic choke job.. holy sh!t.. horford even worse.. this is beyond outstanding..
Freezing cold take!
Oof, Tatum in a nightmare and can’t wake up.
He woke up.
Niang really giving Philly something.
Philly crowd strangely muted…
Tatum has been ice cold
Moving well though…he should get rolling eventually.
Welp….maybe in the 2nd half!
Boston playing like they really want this more.
I’ve never seen a big get as man calls as Embiid.
choosing the lesser of two evils.. go 76ers.. much easier to root for embiid, harden, maxey etc over tatum, brown and the smug GM.. the pain will be very bad in the bean
All star announcements: cue conflation between individual talent and the effect of unavoidable team elements on said talent.
After five games vs. New York in each round, a few things stand out . . .
. . . and I was surprised to see that, in terms of shooting percentages only, Cleveland did better against New York than Miami has . . .
Good info. Thanks for sharing.
Goodnight, Los Angeles!
The officiating discrepancy is palpable. Also there’s no way Dray ever leaves the Dubs. He wouldn’t get this much leeway any other team.
Feels like it was decided the Dubs were gonna get away with murder this game.
Steve Kerr whined to the media, then told Draymond to aim for their balls!
The refs are really enjoying the game. They seem to really like it when the lakers get hit on the head and face lol
Austin Reaves was a hell of a find by the Lakers’ front office.
Man. I hate the Dubs so much I’m rooting for the Lakers.
I’m with you
me three
I am so tired of flopping from guys like Reeves. It’s long past time for the NBA to deal with this garbage. If they think it isn’t driving away casual fans, they’re wrong. All they need to do it make the penalty for egregious flops (you know, when a guy acts like he got his block knocked off, but on replay, it’s obvious he wasn’t even touched) suspensions. You don’t have to make the judgement in the moment, do a review of the worst flops at the end of every week. Some of these are super obvious. Essentially, players who… Read more »
What are you talking about?
Meh. This whole series is a flop-off.
Exactly why it needs addressed.
Everything sucks and nothing matters.
Do you really think nothing can be done about this crap?
No. I just think that nothing will be done. 😜
Probably true, but it’s not hard to address, and it turns away potential viewers. I can say this from talking to people in my own circle.
Sorry for being overly negative. Just have friends that tell me that when there’s stuff I complain about that I have no control over.
with you on that.
in fact, I think all sports should have a review office that goes over games the next day or so, and hands out tough penalties for cheap hits, flopping, etc. Maybe not in hockey, because they would have to get a new team for each game!
I dont know why but I have developed a dislike of Mr. draymond green. I dont know if it is his constant complaining…his fake “out of control” limbs he has full control of…or his willingness to stomp on the chest of other players on the court…but the more I learn about him the more I think he might be a real jerk.
Green is kind of bipolar. on the court he is a TOTAL ASSHOLE and should get ejected about every other game. off the court, on podcasts, etc., he is articulate, funny, and likeable.
his on court thug act is likely intentional, as he has figured out how to get away with it, and it allows him to be a top player despite so-so talent.
Draymond seems like a powder keg tonight.
I don’t like him or his nonsense, obviously, but he generally brings it in these big games…
Love with another 20% night. A snub for All NBA imo
He was awful tonight. Heat might have had a chance if they had pulled him earlier instead of waiting until they were down 19.
I see the Warriors are relying on their standard moving screens play!
the moving screen into a seal is also getting a lot of leeway
Nice start by Reeves