Live Thread: Knicks @ Cavs, NBA Playoffs Game 5
2023-04-26Good evening CtB!
The Cavs welcome the New York Knicks to the shores of Lake Erie to stave off elimination from the 2023 NBA Playoffs and send this series back to New York and add pressure to the Knicks to close the series. The two main stories of the series has been the putrid offense and defensive rebounding of the Cavs to this point. The Cavs have shot the second fewest threes among playoff teams and have made only 31% of the attempts. Somehow the Knicks have been a worse three point shooting team, but make up for it with their hustle on the offensive glass.
The Cavs’ shooting stinks in general from the field because the Knicks are constantly packing the paint with all five defenders to prevent attempts at the rim. If the Cavs want to get to game six, they need to start bombing away from three… particularly Darius Garland, Caris LeVert, and Donovan Mitchell. That’s how they won game two, and that’s the only way to get the Knicks to stop collapsing to the paint on defense. Also in that game, Danny Green played 20 minutes. Coach J.B. Bickerstaff might want to think about riding him to space the floor.
Tip off is scheduled for 7:00PM Eastern time and will be broadcasted live on Bally Sports Ohio/Great Lakes as well nationally televised on NBATV, Go Cavs!
The Suns owner apparently hates Dan Gilbert (and vice versa). Apparently, the Suns owner is also from Detroit, and has a top mortgage company. He claims Gilbert has done things the wrong way in running his mortgage company (which I don’t know what that means?).
Dennis should miss the second FT
What was Jordon Poole doing 😂
Lights got very bright for him.
To be fair to Poole, he also sucks ass…
Well that is fair
Why not just take a half court shot? 😂
So funny rewatching that sequence— Steph 100% was planning to come around a Draymond screen and get the pass back from Poole to take an open 28-footer which for Steph is like a FT. Then you can see both him and Dray stop moving and react in real-time like, “oh this dumb mf’s shooting, game over.” 🤦🏽♂️😂
Saw it real-time in all it’s glory.
Me too, and it’s just as fun the second time!
Curry has to be so tired pf some of those bums on that team.
I’m starting to hear Chris Rock’s old line when it comes to Dray and Poole – “I’m not saying I SUPPORT sucker-punching your teammate . . .but I understand 🤷🏽♂️”
In all fairness, Steph would have missed like he does anytime he takes an important shot.
Lakers were definitely going to send two bodies his way again, AD (who was just below the 3 pt line on that side) plus one of the original double-team would have chased him around the screen
D’Lo….lol….he and Poole are scrubtastic…
Feels like Lakers chances depends on which D’Lo turns up.
Terrifying…
Argh, LBJ nearly got the block on Curry. Time and tide…
Man, apparently Curry used two games worth of shots in game 7 against the Kings…
Heh!
I’m just waiting for Curry to chuck his mouth guard at the fans.
Poole is just a disaster…even when he hit threes, he gives it all back in every other aspect of the game…what a terrible contract that is.
He reminds me of gilbert arenas’ swagger with Sasha Pavlovic’s success. A couple games of stardom and a season’s full of lack.
30 points 20 rebounds for Davis 🤯
At the start of this game, the commentators reminded me that both Lebron and Curry had won four titles. The conversation has always been “Who’s the greatest, Michael or Lebron?” (Michael at this point), but if Curry ends up with more titles than Lebron in the same era, how could Lebron even be in the conversation as the greatest? A lot on the line in this contest. I’m rooting for Lebron.
Robert Horry is the goat 🐐
Okay, aside from the obvious. :) I guess this fight is about who is the greatest player of this era.
Two of Curry’s titles are fraudulent… bought by KD joining them.
Good point and in 2015, the Cavs would’ve won if Kyrie/Love didn’t go down
Did KD win 2 with them? Ha I dont remember the 2nd. The league got very weird when the lakers won their weird bubble title.
right. they both have one suspect title.
Yup, they won 2017 and 2018… then lost 2019 to Toronto.
Good point. However, after watching game 7 against the Kings, I revised my view of Curry. (He’s a douche, but he’s pretty f’ing good.)
Agreed, which is why we should slander him every chance we get.
Facts.
Curry is not in that conversation. Maybe with Larry Bird.
Looney has an argument for best contract in the league this season.
Offensive rebounding always seems to be the big difference maker in the playoffs. Remember how valuable TT was (at times).
I have a hard time thinking of anyone in his league for that award. That said Davis has destroyed him this game
Go Lakers!
Why do cavs fans want the lakers to do well this year? I dont get it
I don’t.
Yeah…i want that dude who spit on cleveland twice in favor of market upgrades to lose. Like all the time. If both of these teams could completely fall off a cliff and set records for ineptitude in the playoffs and then also the team that gets through gets swept…id be happy.
He spent 11 years with the Cavs, more than any other team. He also broke the curse. He’s a legend!
For me it’s more about the Laker fans. Lebron doesn’t matter to me either way.
Yeah I can’t stand the Heat fans, or used to strongly dislike them, but I’m rooting for the Heat to beat NY, probably because I’m salty after what I just witnessed.
there are a lot of teams we hate, so ya gotta go with who you hate most currently
Yep. He spent his second stint with the cavs because he loved cleveland and not at all because the east was a cakewalk by comparison to the west and he could call most of the personell shots
It’s not like he was in the West and came to the East.
both times the Cavs were pretty much out of assets, and would not likely be getting to the finals, so it was for the better in the big picture.
And the current Cavs exist because he left. Both times he left they got top picks that turned into great players. Kyrie was part of the 2016 Championship, hit the winning shot. He doesn’t join the Cavs if Lebron is limping them along. You should know the rest.
^^^^More to Scotch than Raoul who I think feels the same way. And I’d rather have to deal with arguments about Lebron being GOAT than Curry or anyone else currently playing that’s not on the Cavs.
Well they’re playing the Warriors and I’ll root for LeBron as long as they’re not playing the Cavs.
agree!
GSW seem a little lost when Curry sits. Hesitant & shot selection is not great.
Doesn’t help that Poole is terrible at basketball. Every now and then he hits enough threes to make him neutral overall…
Draymond doing lots of barking at the refs.
Good article here: https://theathletic.com/4478737/2023/05/02/hollinger-cavs-grizzlies-defense-playoffs/?source=dailyemail&campaign=601983.
Memphis has a lot of the same challenges. Be cool to see how we approach the off-season
I can’t get access… what does it say?
Both teams need spacing bc teams will ignore two of their starters and Allen looked like a fraud.
Grizz culture a problem too but both teams have space and means to get guys.
Grizz sucky guys are young Cavs sucky guys are old.
Go Heat!
Knicks gonna win this but they needed to win it and they’ll barely win it. If Miami can take care of home court this series is over.
If the Cavs took care of home court the series would have been over too. They need Butler and 2016 Kevin Love and Kyle Lowry.
Or a homeless person to coach the team?
Thanks for the chuckle, Arch.
I don’t think home court matters in this series, Knicks better road team than home team, ton of Knicks fans in South Beach LMFAO
Yes but Butler will be back in Miami
Knicks getting every call
That was some b s on the 24 second call
Yeah, refs were as star struck as the TNT camera men, apparently.
haha!
Hartenstein is such an annoying goon
Exactly the kind the Cavs need.
Dillon Brooks is available 😂
🤮🤮🤮
Miami giving knicks problems without two best players. At New York no less. Guess coaching does matter after all. Vincent having no issues driving to basket and getting open 3 pt shots (. You watching garland and Mitchell). No hero no butler.
It’s almost like having shooters to space the floor matters.
But Korby told me that clogging the lane gave the Cavs 51 wins this year.
That also yes
It’s killing me to watch Kev on the bench for Miami.
Heat are also getting killed by injuries. They’ve lost Herro and Oladipo for the year. Butlers out tonight. Struss just limped to the locker room.
Love’s competitiveness and scrappiness is criminally underrated by Cavs fans.
Too bad I jinxed his free throws LMFAO
Oh yeah. The timely rebounds. The drawing of offensive fouls. The passing. The gravity.
The 8 and 6 off of 25% shooting (as of 6:00 left in the fourth). Amazing
Much of what I said doesn’t show up in the stat sheet.
Convenient
That’s what this whole post is about
😂
He barely played 23 minutes, had no impact, and wasn’t productive so I guess you have to find some intangible somewhere :)
I’m speaking in general. Not necessarily just this game. I believe he’s also shooting over 40 percent from 3 in the post season.
He should’ve played more TBH, Spo took him out and the Knicks went on a run… couldn’t though because Love was gassed.
Miami with a 3 point lead at the half. And they’re without Butler. Love just canned a 3.
It’s insane they’re even in this game.
It’s what good coaching will get you.
I see what you did there.
If we could just magically drop KCP on the Cavs, it would instantly fix a lot of their roster issues…
Murray just brutal this game…he’s always been as trick or treat as Cedi, just with higher levels of treat when he gets there…
Hey Nate, right on schedule.
It’s probably literally impossible to have a bad offense with Jokic on the floor…
Jokic pretty incredible on a night when Murray hasn’t had it. Also, oddly, I haven’t noticed Jokic rolling around on the floor once, so apparently it is possible to be a mountain of a man, play basketball, and somehow remain on one’s feet.
Sending those fans home happy, that’s what it’s all about…
😂😂😂
Well that was pretty epic D by the sixers. Maxey with the intercept.
I really loathe both of these teams, but it would be hilarious if Philly wins this sans Embiid in front of those great fans.
Smart edges out Embiid for me. Harden should push the Sixers over the edge, but then you have to consider Boston fans…
Philly fans might rank up with Boston and NY fans.
Cleveland vs. NYC update:
the Yankee fans did not have a fun ninth inning tonight. So sad!
Ugly, foul-laden game seems to suit these two shitty teams.
This made me laff. But so true.
Sixers aren’t a tenth as annoying to watch with no Embiid rolling around on the court like a mortally wounded sperm whale. But Celtics are definitely just abusing them at the hoop with him out.
Fun playoff game to play: when Embiid is back, count how many times he’s on the floor during a game and compare to how many times that, say, Jokic is on the floor.
Yeah, nice not to have to watch Embiid flopping, and even Harden for once was just looking to hit shots late in the game (at least down the stretch), not going out of his way to bait for fouls like usual.