
Playoff Live Thread: Cavs vs Magic
2024-04-20Welcome to the ‘offs Cavalier fans! First off, I know things have been pretty sparse around here content wise of late, and I just wanted to thank you all for keeping the community going in the comment section. I’m truly grateful for the loyalty and camaraderie. Second off, the Cavs take on the Magic today! Orlando comes into this game with no one on the injured list, and run a deep team that could give the Cavs fits, especially against the bench lineups. The Cavs will be missing Dean Wade, Craig Porter Junior, and late scratch Ty Jerome.
I know I was pretty down on the way the Cavs backed into the fourth seed, and I haven’t really had a chance to explain myself, but I’ll try in the short amount of time we have here. I think something broken in me when it came to the Cavs this season, and a lot of it came from my frustration with the world at large. This year, as the NBA has become an on-court roulette wheel, with 60 percent of the ads we see being for legalized gambling, the NBA has felt like more and more of a scam: an emblem of American grift culture.
I’ve made no secret of the fact that I loathe sports gambling. It’s not just because I have close family members that suffer from gambling addiction: a disease that can destroy both lives and families. It’s because as it presented by major American sports gambling corporations, it’s not even a fair enterprise. it’s a barely regulated scam industry meant to siphon your bank account. Why do I say this? Because you literally can’t win. If you win too much, they ban you. If you have wisdom that allows you to prognostic who’s going to win and how, better than the house, the powers that be will figure it out and cancel your account.
So it’s pretty frustrating to watch what the NBA has become: a nonstop corporate siphon designed to entice you into losing your money. To top all that off, the NBA has cheapened their games to the point where regular season games don’t even matter anymore. What is the NBA selling that an average American family can get behind? Are the only people that will be watching these games, the gamblers chasing a dopamine hit? How is one supposed to take a family to a game, or get their children interested in the sport if literally every commercial is about how to have your money siphoned away?
Some context here: my best friend, a casual Cavs lover, and not a hoops head, had taken his six and five-year-old kids to the last game of the season, their second Cavs game ever, how exactly am I supposed to explain to him the logic behind J.B. Bickerstaff calling timeout with the Cavs up six and with about six minutes to go, and telling his team to lose? And make no mistake, that’s exactly what he did. Anyone who watched that game isn’t being honest if they tell you differently. And of course, the argument is, “well the Bucks did it, and the Pacers did it,” but everyone else being fraudulent doesn’t excuse your own lack of ethics and judgment. If we’re not teaching kids to try your best and to execute with excellence and integrity, what the hell are we doing here?
It’s all part and parcel to the scamification of America, and the promotion of corporate grift culture. I wanted the team and city I root for to be better. It’s pretty rough to have it shoved in their face that they’re not.
With that in mind, I’m more torn about rooting for this team than I ever have been. My heart wants them to win. My soul is mad at them for being organizational shit-asses. And most concerning, my head is telling me they can’t win. I don’t trust J.B. I don’t trust the likes of Darius Garland who is talking the talk after not walking the walk most of the season. It’s hard for me to believe in them. Magic in six as the Cavs struggle with their ability to put size on the perimeter and their deeper bench. I hope I’m wrong. The hope for the Cavs is that their experience trumps the young Magic’s who seem like they might be where Cleveland was a year or two ago. Go Cavs.
Cavs 5.5 point favs tonight
LNwD 👍👍——-WILL GO SEE—— SUPPORT EG……..WILL SNEAK IN SOME……… “ MORE BEER 🍺 PLEASE “ GREAT JOB EG——— THANKS FOR SHARING SIMMO 👍👍
In other news, the film Evil Genius worked on recently, “Late Night with the Devil” is going pretty well in the box office / streaming. Getting good press over here too.
Oh cool. Saw that at the theater that when it came out. Had no idea EG worked on it. Was a lot of fun.
Good to hear. I mean, if EG is too busy to be on the CtB boards with us, I want to his product to be quality!
just read up on LNwtD — sounds like an excellent plot!
Nance just not the guy to close games. I don’t know what it is but just an awful offensive shift with two blown bunnies
Brilliant timeout by NOP. Coach could see they came out in the 2nd in the wrong mindset. He didn’t wait for them to fall 10 pts down.
I really hope OKC loses this series. So tired of the media fawning over them.
I would also enjoy that.
Also with the McCollum/Nance Stark/Summit county connections, I’m rooting for New Orleans.
They’ll have to get by the SGA grift.
Pels probably don’t have enough but you can see the Clips really giving them trouble.
If Zion could play, they’d have won.
Lillard has almost as many points as all of Indy.
God’s Favorite and December Hall of Famer Halliburton getting obliterated in the bright lights of (checks notes) Milwaukee???
What’s Hali EPM after nine fucking points in a disaster class?
+12 Net rating with with a base7 triple double and with three turnovers in his very first playoff game at 23? Probably better than you think it is. Hali will be fine.
Bucks are awful perimeter defenders. He was invisible against Malik Beasley. Scary hours
EPM is of course a fake stat
A lot of blow outs today.
Dame time in Milwaukee.
I never gave the pairing of Kyrie and Luka much of a chance of working out. Wrong on that.
They’re down 26 at halftime.
:) yeah, but I meant long term. I thought there would be a clash of personalities.
They have to get toasted in the POs first.
looking forward to the “Inner Kyrie” coming out when things get ugly in big D
Eh. I think he’s just collecting checks at this point.
Miami trying to shoot Boston out of that zone. This is gonna be a tough series for them to compete in with all their injuries.
CHANGING MY GRANDKIDS NAME s TO “ SAM “ ——— WILL ALL BE SHOOTERS 👍🏀🤪
MUST BE THE NAME SAM 🏀😃
YES ON SAM “ WINDLER “ 👍🤪
Hauser showing up with 3 treys. Hey maybe we can use Sam?
KLOVE ——INSTANT OFFENSE
Lot of things to be pleased about in yesterday’s win. I was impressed with the team’s ability to regroup in the middle of the third quarter after coming out flat.
I AM F_CKED BECUZ I DRINK ROLLING ROCK 🍺😡💪———SAVE ME BUCKAROO
Note the soft Cavs front line combined for 38 rebounds.
“DITTO “ FROM ME TOO NATE —-TOTALLY AGREE
I don’t think he’s wrong on substance, and better late than never on wisdom I guess. but getting wound up in 2024 about this? the world existed prior to your notice and the fact that it took so long to be personally affected is unearned good luck: could call it privilege. Being against sports marketing addiction and vice? I mean, I didn’t learn “tastes great / less filling” from commercials during the fucking McLaughlin Group or Meet The Press, it was the NFL. not to mention the cigarette ads. Vice and addiction for $ has always been there, and if… Read more »
(I mean I love the Cavs and I’m the #1 fan but the damn arena been named after an exploitative subprime mortgage lender for about…15 years?)
WTF?
Gambling is a vice. Beer is not a vice.
argue what you want in service of your preferred vice but that’s not how the law treats it and the harm from drinking >>>>>> damage from gambling, economically or otherwise.
no one ever got killed betting the believeland parlay and getting behind the wheel
Yes. No one was ever killed for gambling debts.
No one ever died getting drunk behind the wheel? You want to count corpses behind alcohol abuse???
Have another fucking beer
You need to take some time to marinate in why the vices that touch you personally are taking priority.
Shit shouldn’t have to happen to you to matter to you, tear yourself off the cross pls
My family and many other families have been just as fucked up by alcoholism and substance abuse as they have been by gambling. You assume that me not talking about those things means that I don’t have issues with those things as well l, and you are using that as a cudgel to invalidate my points. I respond to your ridiculous assertion that no one ever died over gambling with an example that very obviously happens. Gambling addiction can lead to death. Once talked to someone who worked at Mohican Sun 15-16 years ago. They said during the winter, they… Read more »
same
I am with you, Nate. No need to apologize on any front.
Ditto.
Thanks guys. I don’t think I apologized for anything, did I? :D
Explanations, then.
;)
Good to see Embiid back in the game.
Knicks just do not waste possessions. They are what the Heat wish they were
Embiid down clutching the knee. Series maybe over.
I hate the Knicks!
Sixers looking like a tough matchup for Knicks. Lowry is a good defensive matchup on Brunson, Embiid can protect the rim, and on the other end he’s drawing doubles and can find Batum and Maxey. Maxey has the speed to beat the Knicks pressing D.
Nice run by the Knicks, though…
I wish DG used his speed the way Maxey does against the press. Just straight downhill…he’s fast
Go 76ers!
IF CAVS CAN CUT THEIR TO ‘s HALF -(w WHICH MAGIC SCORED 19pt pts ) —- THE GAME WOULDN t BE CLOSE-/—- AND IMPROVED 3 PT SHOOTING 👍🏀
WELCOME BACK MR STEAL———DAMN I AM TORTURING MYSELF WATCHING “ HARD ROCK “ GET PHYSICAL WITH EMBIID ————I LOVE THAT KID
The one that got away…
SIMMO —- R U TALKING ABOUT THE CAVS OR THE KITTENS 🐈⬛🤪—————— THAT HAS TO BE THE CAVS/ CTB MANTRA WHEN THINGS ARE GOING BAD ——“GO FEED THE CATS 🐈⬛ “
GOOD “W”—— 3 MORE CAVS ——ARCH ——POST OF THE DAY —“ MEOW 😻—- GO FEED YOUR KITTENS “ ———— MEANWHILE MY “ OUTSIDE “ CAT 🐈⬛. WAS “ SHITTIN KITTENS “ 🤪🐈⬛
They were hungry and nasty. I knew it was coming. Plus 14 on the glass, Paolo with nine TOs
Wolves spanking the Suns.
Obviously won’t know until a matchup w say NYK happens, but based on this playoff sample of one, it looks to me like EM and JA are a bit more physical.
Wire to wire win, despite less than great performances from some. And JB actually played more than 7 guys.
Evan putting the shoulder into a big five and finishing over him >>>
Shout out to JA for getting 16 points and 18 rebounds.
Magic are probably the worst offensive team in the playoffs, with the Cavs the second worst.
JB gets credit for the relatively quick hook on Niang too (as well as Merrill who was a little out of control)
Niang played 24 minutes. Merrill had 4 minutes
He got pulled during the second half when getting cooked by Paolo and sat the rest of the way.
Sam was practically hyperventilating. Hope he settles a bit
Merrill got fouled shooting a 3 with no call.
Oh I see. Well then we needed to play him more because we needed dudes out there who get no respect from the refs as well as missing every shot.
He has to produce in his shifts – if DG gets pulled when he has multiple TOs then Sam can get a hook too.
Except DG doesn’t get pulled after having multiple TO’s. I thought you were on sabbatical 😂?
He got pulled immediately after the first two minutes of the third as well as in the second. He didn’t get a pass today nor did bad Vert.
Moreover they are both capable of doing two things on the floor offensively during crunch time. Sam isn’t. I hope he can contribute and I expect him to be a key factor in winning one in Orlando.
Cavs win the rebound battle.
Really bad outcome for Orlando. Cavs missed 22 of the last 25 3s and DG had a billion TOs but it was still a wire to wire win.
JB did a nice job pulling Vert and DG when they started to go bananas and using Evan to cool off Paolo.
Hope Ice OK.
Team as a whole was super physical and tough lots of excellence and integrity.
Go Cavs!
Very solid win. Some things to clean up for sure, but having the best player helps an awful lot.
Yep. Miss having Lebron and the first three rounds felt perfunctory.
I know right.. it was like no matter which seed or who you faced, you had lebron so you knew you would come up on top (most of the time).
Since those days, I don’t think we’ve seen a dominant team like that in terms of coming out of the conference consistently.
So it is a different kind of viewing experience. DM gets a lot of attention and shots, but much more dispersed responsibilities. And a bunch of likable young guys growing into it. Fun
Yeah ultimately I’m with you. Different experience for sure. Just wild remembering some of those years.
Absolutely. They played some of the 2016 exploits on the Jumbotron during pregame. Of course a smile comes to one’s face. Thought maybe the LeBron buzzer beater against magic would appear, but not while I was watching. Go Cavs!!
Go Cavs!
+14 rebound margin? dost my eyes decieve
My favorite play was DG boxing out Isaac for a defensive board
GO CAVS!!!
Go Cavs!
I agree Go Cavs
Garland with a great iso trey but just some terrible decisions on home run pass attempts to Mobley.
Suggs is a pesky dude.
Yeah. Scares me when DG is dribbling anywhere near him.
Sweet smiles all around. DG puts it away!
Attaway DG
That should do it
Though ever time you think that with the Cavs…
Ok. Now its safe.
Thankfully the Magic employ Gary Harris
Man, Mitchell has got his hops back.
At least they finally rebounded a missed free throw
Rat farts!
DG ever struggling against the aggressive trapping D
He’s too small
Pass the f’ing ball DG
Always seem to dribble too much.
Double double doubles!!!
In one of these games we need to put Morris or TT on that goon Wagner to give him a few hard fouls.
Drop the gloves!
DM3!!!
SPIDA!!!!!
Fantastic D
You gotta get Mobley back in to guard Banchero.
they heard you!
Mitchell has had some TOUGH finishes today.
Ingles vs. Niang looks like the best two players going at it at the Ernst & Young annual retreat.
First foul of the period by Magic, unbelievable
Bw… Please go attend to your cats.
I resisted. Can’t let the Cavs get too reliant on them.
Good coaching.
Cavs got up 20 and relaxed.
CALL A TIMEOUT
Niang has been pretty pretty bad this game. I miss dean wade
How so?
Well, okay, 1-6 shooting, but I thought he defended Banchero pretty well.
Come on, Cavs. Rise to the Moment.