
Playoff Live Thread: Cavs vs. Pacers (Game 7, The Skip Feed)
2018-04-29The previous three potential Cavalier playoff exits were all about the present: In 2015 through 2017, the wine and gold were playing for a championship in that moment. This afternoon, though? The Cavs aren’t playing for a championship. They’re playing for their future: the next series, the playoffs, the future of this franchise for possibly the next five years. It’s a lot to expect for a young squad not to look into the future and focus on the moment at hand. Playing with LeBron James provides for constant distractions. Heck, our fans can’t even stay enthused. Thankfully, I think Game 6 was an intercepted skip feed: it led to a runout, but the series is still theirs.
As for the Cavs roster, there was still some mystery as of last night. George Hill is questionable with Ty Lue simply saying Hill “moved around pretty good so we will see.” Ty was also cagey with the lineup, hinting that they may need more size to contend with Indy inside. I’d love to see Larry in the starting (and especially closing) lineup, but I doubt it happens. Still, I’m picking the Cavs this game, for no other reason than that they tend to bounce back in games like this, and the extended rest at the end of Game 6 will be good for all involved. They’ve just got to stay loose and play without fear, especially Kevin Love. I hope J.R. hooked Kev up with some of the good-good last night to loosen him up (joking). James himself looks loose, after “coaching” his son to another victory yesterday. I hope to see more of these on the St. V’s sidelines in coming years.
To give you a more extended preview and series recap, I’ll turn you over to long time CtBer, Right Down Euclid (the first), who penned this piece on our relationship and Indy’s relationship with LeBron James.
First time contributor/long time commenter/one time hitchhiker Right Down Euclid here. I’ve found myself with a bit more time on my hands lately and as I started typing out a lengthy response to EG’s Game 5 recap a few nights ago, I realized I had the beginnings of a full-fledged CTB post on my hands and now here I am. See kids: anything is possible!
Just a couple of games ago I finally learned from Nate what a skip feed is after hearing Fred McLeod mention it so many times and I decided it would be a great name for this potential periodical. A skip feed, whereby a player passes from one side of the floor to the other while bypassing an intermediate player, is a great analogy for the glory and pain of playing with LeBron. And in one of our many shared similarities, it’s also a great analogy for how my mind works and the glory and pain of working with me.
As we’ve long agonized (particularly lately) at CTB, LeBron consistently eschews system and scheme in favor of his Bobby Fischer-like ability to see plays unfold 2-3 moves ahead and instead hold the ball until making one home run pass with seconds left on the shot clock. On the upside, more often than not he makes the right play and it becomes nearly impossible to plan against. On the downside, it turns everyone around him into a bit player in the travelling LeBron circus. LeBron is the platform and JR Smith is just the Uber driver you gave three stars for not wearing a shirt. And when jumpshots stop falling at a high clip, and LeBron can’t go supernova that night because he’s logged more playoff minutes than anyone else and is bleeding from the face, sometimes you lose by 34 in a closeout game.
I can relate because in my day job I similarly can often see things unfolding 2-3 steps out and go for the mental “skip pass.” But more often than not I fail to bring my colleagues along with my ideas and end up yelling at Kevin Love for making the wrong cut while the other guys go sprinting down the floor in the other direction. It’s at this point my manager will tell me to turn off the Cavs game, stop yelling at Kevin Love, and get back to work. That and calling this column “The Skip Feed” means I’m right on brand when I post inconsistently about random topics that pop into my head.
Back to matters at hand, Evil Genius brought up the analogy of LeBron to the Pacers as Michael Jordan is to the Cavs. It’s unreal that Pacers fans may very likely end up viewing LeBron exactly how Cavs fans think about Jordan. Michael eliminated the Cavs four times between 1988 and 1993. (Incidentally it happened again in 1994 sans MJ with the Bulls en route to the Eastern Conference Semis, which if memory serves me correctly is a similar result to how the Cavs performed the year after LeBron left). No matter how good those early 90’s Cavs teams were, greatness personified was always standing in their way.
If the Cavs can win Sunday, it will be the fifth time in seven years that LeBron has eliminated the Pacers. 10 years from now Pacers fans will be saying “man we had some great teams with Paul George and Roy Hibbert and Lantz’s brother but we just always had the best standing in our way.” Eventually, I imagine the pain will fade and they will appreciate their front row seat to LeBron’s greatest moments. For me, I always think of MJ a little bit more fondly because he’s inextricably linked to the Cavs more than most non-Chicago teams. It’s impossible to properly tell the history of Jordan without telling the story of “those early 90’s Cavs teams that were actually really good” and it’s impossible to show “The Shot” “Michael Jordan’s Shot” without highlighting a lesser known Cleveland team just on the cusp of greatness.
Basking in the glory of “The Shot” after Game 5 sent me down a YouTube rat hole, which eventually took me to a “best crowd reaction” video and to Kobe’s final 60 point game. I have to admit it did strike me while watching the crowd go insane for Kobe that Cleveland may not ever have the same relationship with LeBron that LA did with Kobe. Kobe played 20 seasons in LA and more importantly they watched him win five rings. Now I’m not trying to re-litigate the decision or blame LeBron as our one championship will always mean more to Cleveland than Kobe’s five in LA. But that said it’s striking to think, as great as LeBron is, we have so much less shared history with him than LA does with Kobe or Chicago does with Michael. LeBron will forever be ours but it’s easy to forget his resume was largely written while wintering in South Beach.
At the same time the fact that we share as many tears of sadness and frustration with LeBron as we do tears of joy makes our connection to him that much more visceral, more familial, and more well…Cleveland. It’s been written many times before that part of the reason LeBron leaving Cleveland hurt so much is because many of us saw in his actions a reflection of our own and they do say people who live in glasses houses shouldn’t throw lead pipes.
So while our relationship with LeBron will always be infinitely more complex, less joyful, and less fan-boyish than LA’s with Kobe or Chicago’s with Michael, it will always be more authentic and relatable. Our relationship is with James, the man, more than it is with James, the icon. The movie version will have real highs, lows, suspense and tension, which is something LA fans never really had to experience other than one scene in Colorado.
In season 15, Kobe’s Lakers were swept in the second round by the eventual NBA champion Dallas Mavericks. The Lakers were coming off back to back championships — the same position LeBron’s Cavs could very well be in were it not for Kevin Durant joining a 73-win team. Kobe was content with 5 rings in hand to live out his last 7 seasons in Lakerland receiving only a suddenly divalike Dwight Howard and a version of Steve Nash that spent much of his time horizontal next to the bench.
Kobe had three with Shaq and all five with Phil and didn’t make it out of the first round seven times. Michael didn’t make it out of the first round until he had Scottie and he didn’t achieve anything without Phil. Incidentally, you couldn’t be blamed for wondering whether it was actually Phil who was the platform and Michael and Kobe his repertory players.
In a draft of this piece I wrote before Game 6 I ended on note of hope that LeBron’s Game 5 heroics would serve to inspire Kevin Love and Rodney Hood to rise above whatever it is that’s been plaguing them. But sitting here late Friday night it’s hard to deny that Sunday is all about LeBron.
For the first time since the 66-win 2009 Cavs he’s probably questioning what he’s even playing for. Is it because he doesn’t lose in the first round? Is it because he knows what “The Shot” and owning the Pacers like how Michael owned the Cavs will do for his legacy if he can get one more win? Or is he just that driven that he will fight and claw his way through this 15th season until he’s given his all?
After Sunday he’ll have to ask himself day after day until July: what is he playing for? For two more rings? For 38,388 points? To go down as one of the greats who, with few exceptions, played all of their meaningful minutes in the same colored jersey? Certainly it’s not lost on LeBron the difference between Kobe’s farewell tour of adulation and the twilight years of rent-a-Shaq, which went out with a whimper in the form of a tweet from his home office.
It’s tempting to say LeBron has done more with less than any other player before him but that’s more a statement on the quality of his coaches than his teammates. Wade and Kyrie were LeBron’s Scottie for the last seven seasons and he just so happened to make the finals in all seven of them – losing most recently only when his sidekick got injured or when Kevin Durant joined a 73-win team.
That’s where the comparisons to history end as LeBron embarks upon an unprecedented fourth act to his career. With health on his side he seemingly has a lot left to prove. But he must prove it in a league full of super teams, Processes, competent NBA coaches, Kevin Durant on a 73-win team, and a budding Pacer superstar and his revved up Pacers.
Let’s get this lead back in the double digits, so my blood pressure will go back down.
Please foul out Turner and Bogdonovitch. They have five. Get them out.
Please tell Lue to tell people to attack him.
James needs to let Hill handle the ball some . Stop the total iso crap
Yep, was thinking the same thing…
They were killing them in the p and r. Wish James would run the p and r and actually roll. Could be so unstoppable.
5 on Love. 6 on Turner.
Buh-byyyeeeeee Turner…
Bye bye Turner!
Turner fouls out!!!
All Bog does is foul…that’s five…foul his a$$ out…
5 on love. Indy in bonus
Bogdanovic has fouled out like 5 times this game.
Take us home Mr James.
That goaltending call is not going to make Indy fans happy
Indiana doesn’t want to go away.
Good on the coaching staff for instilling that attitude.
Damn here they come again. That LBJ turnover felt like a momentum shift in play
Man, we were playing better with Lebron on bench
So much for the good feeling. Bron TO & failure to grab a board = 3 point trip. Missed Hill 3 + Dipo duece.
Like this lineup…
What is James doing? Picks up his drive 40 feet out and tries to make a lazy bounce pass. Wonder if he is dehydrated and dazed still
Love walks back after the turnover and Green has to foul Turner.
Doubt he is 100% right now…
LeBron gotta stop picking up his dribble with no outlet
Ugh!!!!!
Bring back TT
Hill is huge right now
I would keep that Hill & Love pick and roll going.
Call TO there Lebron…that pass was never there…
Horrible pass but LeBron!
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Huge stuff from Love & Hill. And Green. A lot of it will Bron sitting.
It was years ago when I read this on CtB, but it was a joke at Mike Brown’s expense saying that his entire offense strategy was a picture of LeBron James with a rocket attached to his back with a dotted arrow leading to the basket.
I feel like that’s Ty Lue’s strategy, too. Play him max minutes a game and just say “hey LeBron…go score points. Don’t worry…if you mess up I won’t notice. It’s not like I’m paying attention.”
Love!!! Bout damn time
I’m so sick of how much contact Bogdanovic gets away with
George Hill saving the Cavs…huge three by Love..
Hill making something out of nothing. Nice to have a guy that can at least run basic p and r with lbj out.
KEVIN FREAKING LOVE!!!!
I love how often the cavs have come up bleeding…and not getting calls during those plays
Foul out Turner…
Attack Turner, he’s got 5 fouls.
Who needs lebron james when you have broken Kevin love?
Here comes james
Here comes Bron!!!!!
Big time Cahunas by Lue right here
Almost like LBJ going out sapped the pacers energy
Turner falls, so there must have been a foul, amirite?
Turner got fouled by the hardwood apparently.
Nance guilty of standing still
Didn’t love that decision by green but he got the foul
lebron sits the whole fourth ty lue greatest coach ever
That would be terrible and amazing at the same time
Never saw this happening.
Love nice mid-range j
K Love is rising in the moment!
We’ve needed Hill so badly. Love showing up. Shocked LeBron got another couple minutes of rest.
Maybe this will get Love going.
LeBron still sitting.
lebron james with the strategy to make his teammates show up
Guess my stream is behind. Damn you ESPN app
I wish this were the ECF. This is so exhausting knowing that this is the first round.
Let’s hope they sweep Toronto.
I just want to get out of the first round at this point.
Ya really! This is too much for a first round. I can’t face the reality of a first round exit.
Esp bc I think people would get the wrong message out of this: i.e. we needed IT/Kyrie/Rose as primary scorers while the new additions were trash.
If we lose, Lue needs to be gone asap and we need to say to LBJ “please, we know Lue was awful…give us one year with a competent coach”
Bron probably got a good 10 minutes of rest there.
2 TV timeouts by 3 minutes of game time rest for LBJ
Hope he is drinking lots.of Gatorade.
Hill makes a huge impact.
Who knew? His back may be bothering him, but he certainly looks playable…thank god…
HUGE three for Love after missing a wide open one earlier…
Love has to make that..so wide open. Big board by jc
Ginormous shot by Love
LOVE IS IN THE AIR!
That’s off Sabonis.
Cramping. Figured. Danger of playing without a break figured they might hook him up to an iv
Bad foul on sabonis
Hill with some big FTs
God Clarkson is so so bad. Can’t even make simple passes
Or make a layup
Bron experiencing cramping.
Too bad that three didn’t sink…
SaBONEHEAD foiling the 3 point shooter!
Here comes Bron!
https://twitter.com/joevardon/status/990668442926813184?s=20
wierd
Ok that doesn’t sound good.