Playoff Recap: Pacers 121, Cavs 87 (Or, The Beginning Of The End?)
2018-04-28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQatPQ_ipGw
It was Deja Vu all over again. LeBron James came to Bankers Life Fieldhouse hoping to eliminate the Indiana Pacers from the postseason for the fifth time in seven seasons. While the Cavaliers had won an NBA-record 13 straight playoff series-clinching games, this Cavaliers team was far different from the ones we’ve seen the last few seasons. There is no “Big Three,” and with Kevin Love struggling on offense throughout the series, the Cavaliers don’t even have a Dynamic Duo right now. With George Hill missing his third straight game with back issues, the Cavaliers had a tough task trying to close out this series on the road. Unfortunately, as has been the case lately when a challenge presents itself, the Cavaliers simply weren’t up to it.
First Quarter
The game started with Bojan Bogdanovic wrapping his arms around the neck of a driving James, but for some reason, only a common foul was called. James continuously tried to find shooters in transtion, while the Pacers focused on attacking the basket. Kyle Korver and JR Smith were hot early, as each man hit first two threes of the game, while Kevin Love continued to struggle from all over the floor. The Pacers’ scoring was even distributed as all of the starters outside of Bogdanovic got into the action. Unlike previous games, the Cavs were hot from three, starting the game 6-for-8 from deep as James and Love each connected as part of an 8-0 run. Indiana countered by getting out in transition after Cavalier misses. After struggling the past three games, Victor Oladipo found his shot, going 6-for-8 from the field for 15 points in the first quarter alone. The lead changed several times, and the quarter ended with the Pacers leading 29-26.
Second Quarter
It’s never ideal when the Cavaliers are trailing as LeBron James heads to the bench for rest, but Rodney Hood and Kevin Love canned a pair of jumpers to regain the lead. Unfortunately for the Cavs, it was time for a good Lance Stephenson performance, as he canned a pair of jumpers to put the Pacers back on top. Love fell on a drive to the basket, and seemed to re-injure his left thumb, and Pacers went on an 8-2 run to take a ten-point lead. Rodney Hood was terrible defensively, with several terrible fouls that helped the Pacers keep the momentum. The rest of the Cavaliers weren’t much better, as the Pacers continually got to the basket where they either scored or drew the foul. James began to try to put the Cavs on his shoulders, but was cut open by a Thaddeus Young elbow to the face, proving the LeBron can bleed. Hilariously, no foul was called again, and the Cavs had to force a shot before the violation. The Cavs began to attack the basket more, and a dunk by Nance followed by a pair of free throws by James began to close the gap. The Pacers came right back with a three by Darren Collison and a jumper by Bogdanovic put the Pacers up by ten going into the half. Considering the Pacers went into the half shooting 56% from the floor and 43% from three, while the Cavs had eight turnovers, it was a miracle Cleveland was only down ten.
Third Quarter
This is going to sound terrible, but Kevin Love single-handedly put the game out of the Cavaliers’ reach with a sequence of plays to start the second half. After giving up a bucket to Myles Turner, Love missed a three, that was quickly followed up by an Oladip three on the other end. Meanwhile, the Cavs went scoreless over the first 2:30 of the quarter as the Pacers’ lead swelled to 15. Love was then elbowed in the face by Turner, and was checked by the training staff after being replaced by Tristan Thompson. While Thompson scored quickly, and set a terrific screen that led to a jumper by James, the overall energy from the Cavaliers was terrible as they fell down 20 after a Turner three. Soon, the deficit was 25, and at this point, it was just a matter of time until the seconds ticked off the clock and the series returned to Cleveland for the first Game Seven of the first round of LeBron James’s career.
Fourth Quarter
The fourth quarter was little more than a formality, and the only positive was that James was able to sit and rest the whole time. Because of this, I’m going to pose a question to the Cavs: The Blog community. Why, if you were LeBron James, would you stay with the Cavaliers? Kyrie Irving is gone, Kevin Love is injury-prone to say the least, and the rest of the roster is either past their prime (JR, Calderon, Korver, Hill, possibly Tristan) or not the type of player you want to rely on in the playoffs (Green, Hood, Clarkson). I truly believe that James would like the Cavs to give him reasons to feel he can still contend for a title here, but the truth is, in the last year they’ve done just the opposite. A rookie lottery pick isn’t going to do it either. To be honest, I’ve already come to accept James leaving in my head, but I’d like to hear reasons otherwise. Oh yeah, and the Cavs lost by a final score of 121 to 87 after being outscored by 24 points in the second half alone.
Things I Noticed
I’ll be writing about this more in the future, but anyone who claims that Hill is “soft” or doesn’t care about the Pacers has never tried to do a sport with a serious injury. Hill has been in the playoffs plenty of times in his career, but never had the kind of opportunity that he does playing alongside LeBron James. Considering time with the Pacers, it’s hard to imagine that Hill would sit against his old team unless he absolutely couldn’t play. Hill hadn’t been great in this series, but he’s the kind of player who always does the little things and isn’t scared of the moment. Hopefully, he will be back the next game.
On a similar note, Kevin Love’s thumb seems to be having a significant affect on his offense in this series, and there’s not much he can do about it. You can’t just un-tear a ligament. That being said, it’s also fair to say that Love is in his own head right now. It was interesting that on the eve of this series, Love was the only person to admit the Cavs would miss Kyrie’s offense during the playoffs. While true, it was surprising to hear that come from the man who was expected to shoulder much of that offensive load. Love’s confidence has always been fickle, but right now it seems nonexistent.
After abandoning it early in Game Five, the Cavaliers went back to constantly switching on defense. This allowed the Pacers to score at the rim rather easily as they were constantly able to get the mismatch they wanted. The Cavs were much better defensively when they dropped back to prevent the Pacers from getting easy drives and cuts to the basket. I’m a Ty Lue fan, but he has been severely out coached in this series in terms of in-game adjustments.
The officiating of LeBron James is officially—get it?—a problem. The play by Bogdanovic should’ve been a flagrant foul, but it wasn’t even reviewed. Then a Thaddeus Young elbow busts James open, but no foul is called. Last time I checked, people don’t just start spontaneously bleeding from the side of their head. The officiating for James is the worst it’s been for any player since Shaquille O’Neal, another player who was simply much stronger than anyone else. It’s well past time for officials to figure this out.
Jeff Green had a surprisingly decent season for the Cavs, but he simply isn’t the kind of player you want to rely on in the playoffs. His weaknesses are too easy to exploit. There isn’t much else to say here.
The Cavaliers will be back at it on Sunday for Game Seven at the Q. Hopefully we don’t see LeBron James exit the playoffs in the first-round for the first time in his career, and then exit Cleveland for the second time.
Yeah, no one is beating the warriors except themselves. Unless Durant and Curry has a major season ending injury they will continue steamrolling people in the playoffs for the next four to five years. Even with a major injury to one of those two you still essentially have a 72 win team. Any seeming weakness they showed in the regular season was them being bored and having a few nagging injuries they had no desire to play their guys through. I am sure Curry probably could have played last series. Why should he until he totally comfortable, not even just… Read more »
It’s one game. And the pelicans weren’t prepared. And it’s also the pelicans. If they steamroll the rockets I will give this to you…but you could use your logic and say “no one is beating the pacers for the next 4-5 years”.
What??!! The pacers and cavs are nowhere near the Pelicans and Warriors level at this point. The Pelicans have actually played objectively well prior to this game and have a top three player in the league. Their second best healthy player is better than Love and probably close to Dipo’s level if you account for Holiday’s defense. I can’t really say the cavs have played well this series, mostly due to Indiana preventing them from playing well. Indy has shown the flaws in the cav’s offense whether the cavs win or lose this series. I think Indy is a decent… Read more »
With all due respect, the Pacers are a pretty good team but let’s not compare them to elite teams. They have one second tier star and a bunch of OK players. From a pure talent perspective I don’t think they are even a match for the Wizards or the Bucks, but what they are is much better coached and selected for complementary fit across the roster than those teams. Or the Cavs. I agree with Nate that this Cavs team’s problem, at least in terms underachieving, is the coaching. They have a lot of guys with measurable talent or skills… Read more »
Pretty much my sentiments on the current Cavs personnel and a lot of guys that didn’t work in the past. The cavs could be better, but not with Lue, or at least how this team has played for his entire coaching tenure.
I Agree, as long as they enter the playoffs with at least 3 of their superstars for the first two rounds and reach the WCF and Finals with all their pieces nobody will stand a chance. Again it’s the NBA and 9 out of 10 times the team with the most talent will win. It’s just a huge advantage to have two MVP’s and 4 all stars all in their peak at the same time in your squad. I expected them to win it all for at least 2 or 3 more years. They will get bored during the regular… Read more »
Warriors looking other-worldly. Curry isn’t even back yet. Hate them. This sucks. PG13 and Mikal Bridges need to go to Philly for there to be competition in the league again.
Fully expected the pelicans to come out more aggressive, but credit to the warriors, they set the physical tone early. Pels gotta do the same in the 3rd qhd pray Klay doesn’t stay on fire and Durant is passive
Miller with the near full court buzzer beater, but Pels still down 21 at the half…Dubs just smoking their defense…
Mirotic likely going to turn back into the garbage player that he is this series…
Pels obviously just giving up way too many points this half…
Danger time for Pels…I would try to feed AD…
Green allowed to mug Davis…. maybe the Cavs should just start mugging Sabonis, Young, and Turner.
The broadcast panel praised Alvin Gentry for incurring a technical for immediately protesting about Green’s antics. “That’s how you earn your pay, by protecting your best player,” they said. Hey, that’s common knowledge so how come Lue does not know it?
Cuz he might die if he gets too excited. He should never have come back
Great writeup & agree with almost all of it, particularly the start of the 3rd. When Lue said “I don’t remember what happened” he might have well have just said “Love”. Have to disagree with the LBJ/Thad collision though, from what I saw Thad had his arms pretty much straight up & jumped to meet him. LBJ was moving fast and his head caught Thad’s inner elbow. Unfortunate but incidental.
So Sixers-Celtics… Sixers should win but inexperience could be a major factor.
Think the 76rs will struggle but eventually pull it out in a hard fought 6
The struggle will make them better…
Cool to see Rozier and Bledsoe both put on a good show and dap it up at the end there.
Man… even Semi Ojeleye was a positive force for Boston.
Rozier getting it done here for the Celtics. WOW.
Tatum is as well…. just goes to show, again, that young guys you develop can help in the playoffs.
Especially against other competition with not much playoff experience.
Yup…. (see: Indy).
Man…the bucks suffer from exactly the same thing the cavs do. Zero offensive sets and a poorly designed switch heavy d
I think they suffer from a lack of outside shooting… same as the Cavs. Absolutely no one can hit a 3 for the Cavs other than Korver and KLOVE in this series. No one but Middleton for the Bucks… unless they decide to give Muhammed more minutes.
JR isnt shooting that poorly for the series but yeah I know. Oddly similar teams. With major coaching problems.
30% from 3, 32% from the field…. he’s a 37.5% shooter from 3 this year, and career-wise so definitely below average. Totally agree about coaching problems though.
We’ll win game 7, but it shouldn’t have come this far. Losing or winning, based on this year performance Lue will not be here next year.
Jaylen Brown and Aaron Baynes actually look a lot alike
Boston shouldn’t be this good. Philly shouldn’t be this good. Milwaukee shouldn’t be this bad. Cleveland shouldn’t be this bad.
I disagree on philly. They are so well built after getting Bellinelli and Irsan. Also really well coached. Brett Brown has coached up that team quickly and they certainly have a lot of talent. They still have weaknesses. Can Simmons adapt to teams trapping him? Can they respond well to doubles off Embiid and Simmons in the post? Can their shooters continue to hit? I suspect they can get by those problems in the east. If they face the warriors though, I think their d will cause philly some major issues on offense. Boston is the product of Brad Stevens… Read more »
Rubio out for 10 days… tough blow for the Jazz.
We win game 7. Pacers won’t get away with the rough stuff and Korver/J.R. are due. Even Hood showed a bit more confidence early on.
Watch our last game against the Raptors and tell me we don’t beat them in the next round…Philly will be a tough test, but I’d still bet Cavs over Sixers if someone put a gun to my head…
The NBA needs to do a better job of protecting their best player. He’s made them billions at home and abroad and been a model citizen. The modern world has no patience for fighting, so officials job is to keep things from escalating to that point. It’s frankly one of the most amazing things I can say about LeBron that despite the officials allowing Lance to completely troll him for years that he doesn’t lay him out. I’d deck him the first time he got in my bubble.
Bron’s been for the most time smart enough to not allow opponents to drag him to the mad. Unfortunately, Lue is incredibly dumb to realize he needs to protect him. Heck, Lue even praised Stephenson which is mind- boggling.
I think his patience is at a breaking point. Everyone has one, he just has more patience than most.
Seriously, how anyone can praise/condone Lance’s antics is beyond me. When you have to stoop to acting like a child or fake tough guy to make up for your lack of game, it’s laughable. There have been plenty of guys in the league who have been of the “love him if he’s on your team/hate him if he’s the opponent” mold (Varejao, Draymond, Noah, Matt Barnes, etc), but personally, Lance is not on of them and I would be embarrassed if Lance were on our side.
Not surprising. Nance is about the only big that can defend p and r. Obviously we have seen love get exploited in that scenario over the years and the Cavs scheme doesn’t necessarily do him or anyone else many favors.
Soft coaching = soft players.
Ty never stands up for his players. Never says a peep about the officiating in the press. Never gets technicals.
He also rarely holds guys accountable for poor effort or mistakes.
Look, we gave him a crappy hand regarding continuity this year. But he didn’t help himself. Take Korver. Ty admitted the plan was to start Korver in the POs. But he started, what, one game (after the trade) all year. This guarantees both your starting lineup & bench rotations are at a chemistry deficit vs your opponents.
“Soft coaching = soft players”, maybe, and that does play a part, but Thibs is one of the ‘toughest’ coaches out there, and the Twolves are Charmin soft. Even Thibs screams it at them all the time during games.
I am not talking about screaming at the players. I am talking about yanking them out of the game when they do not give effort or play smart.
Sure, Thibs yells, but he also plays the same 7.5 guys into the ground no matter what, so they tune him out.
If he yelled less and yanked guys more the Wolves would mot be as soft. And they would be better rested.
Also, Cavs are way, way, WAY, too soft in this series. Even Amico called them out for that. They aren’t even making the Pacers take their lunch money, they are meekly giving it to them. Don’t these guys get tired of being punched in the mouth by these bums?
The Cavs have no identity besides for LeBron
Game 7 at home with LeBron. This series has forced me to revisit my expectations for this team but I would still be shocked if the Cavs lost.
Need someone besides LeBron to step up and galvanize the troops. I agree with previous comments that people like RJ, Channing, Griffin, JFJ are being missed right now.
Out West, Pelicans and Jazz are nice stories but sure looks like a collision course for Dubs vs Rockets
After we just lost by 34 you would be shocked if we lose?
I am nearly 180 degrees the other way. Because of LeBron I won’t be shocked if the Cavs win, but I will be surprised.
Pacers are the better team.
Yes, I would be shocked if the Cavs lose. The Cavs have had double digit leads in four out of the six games and have found a way to keep Oladipo in check for four out of six games. Find a way to get the ball out of his hands and who are you scared of that will beat the Cavs in a Game 7 atmosphere in Cleveland? If you want to argue the Pacers have been the better team in terms of cohesion, consistent effort, coaching, then I can buy that -> I’ll counter and say the Cavs are… Read more »
The pacers match up well against the Cavs. Yes. The thing is they could easily have lost to 14/15 of the other teams in the playoffs and likely swept by half of those. They just have guys on d who are agile enough to guard Lebron and strong enough and move well enough to guard love. They have physical defenders who happen to be draining threes. And they have been getting away with a lot of contact. Love is having a horrible series. Maybe it’s his thumb. But it’s also just a bad matchup for him.
You know who would be nice right now? Wade. Someone who can reliably drive and dish other than Lebron. I’d take him over hood or Clarkson. And his d was solid too. And Lue was too stupid to realize what he had or use it properly.
Home teams have won 80% of the time in NBA history. In addition, the NBA wants LeBron past the first round and although they don’t do it as much under Silver, they still manipulate outcomes more than any other sports league. Don’t see them losing on Sunday. Indiana will get nervous and not get energy feeding off of their home crowd. Toronto can’t keep up mentally with LeBron – they only won their series because they played a very flawed Wizards team. They reverted back to old ways when things got tough. Philly is another story. Simmons and Embiid have… Read more »
80% of game 7’s
Agree with both Love’s thumb obviously bothering him and he’s in his own head. Whether partially due to health issues, or whatever, Lue has been mostly lousy this series Cavs are not getting any great performances from anyone but Lebron and (sometimes) Korver. Cavs are playing too many lineups that over the season and this series are huge negatives. See Lue, above. Cavs need to play more lineups with a center. This seems obvious. They are getting abused in their ‘small ball’ lineups. When it was clear that Oladipo was going to have a big shooting night, I assumed Cavs… Read more »
*something from someone other than Lebron or Korver. I truly hate typing on an iPad.
It all falls back on coaching. We have the better overall talent, we are not utilizing it to it’s fullest potential.
I stopped watching on the 3rd quarter and won’t watch tomorrow. I’ll find out via online if they make it past the Pacers. If they don’t, which is clearly possible, I’ll want Lue fired instantly. Doubt it will happen…
There’s this concern about machines getting all in our business. I had stuff to do, so I (attempted to) record the game on my DVR. Stayed away from my phone so I didn’t see the score, etc. But when I settled down to watch, the machine hadn’t taped it. In hindsight, I felt like it was saying “Nah, you don’t want to watch this one.”
I completely disagree with the assertion that the Cavs don’t have the talent to get to the finals. I do think their coaching is abysmal, but I just get really tired of the negativity.
Nice recap–I couldn’t watch any more after the lead ballooned to 20. If it’s worth anything, Love’s statement was only admitting what we all knew; that he said it reflects his attempt at transparency, somewhat refreshing, if not self-effacing.
This team can win this series… but I also agree that this team seems flawed (though not to the Pavlovic/Snow/Hughes/Gooden years) to the point that anything beyond the first round might be gravy, and LeBron could not be blamed for seeing the team as missing too much talent to compete next year and beyond…
Do not fret guys, it will all be over soon.
ps you were right. pacers arent good, but cavs are way worse than i thought
What would LeBron want from a team? A quality mix of top end and developing talent, guys on great value contracts that offset his own deal, a creative coach who gets the most out of his players, trade assets, cap flexibility… What Cavs have is $93 some-odd million tied up in Love, Clarkson, JR, Tristan and Hill through 2020. Which would be a problem in itself except their second best player has been 37-year old Kyle Korver. You would normally like some or even one of your guys eating up 90% of your cap space to be outperforming Kyle Korver.… Read more »
I mean I wouldnt be mad if LeBron left, but is this all basketball is anymore? Just running for the best team or the most money? When the going gets tough the NBA superstar leaves for greener pastures? Its LeBrons choice to make, this team is currently clearly crap, but I guess I’m pretty over the NBA if LeBron leaves because of this.
“I mean I wouldnt be mad if LeBron left, but is this all basketball is anymore? ”
Yes, for those players of LeBron’s caliber, yes it is. One year contracts and two-year contracts with player options…or just force yourself out a la Kyrie. For a while, we knew players trumped their coaches, but now stars trump their GMs and owners too.
I may have bought a David Griffin tee, but the NBA doesn’t make those…
Wonder where the fans fit in any of this? Nowhere is my apparent answer
Every single brick thrown up by this circus called a supporting cast, every single bad call by the officials, every terrible coaching move affects LeBron’s legacy which will be judged by Championships fair or not. So, your judgement of him and the modern NBA isn’t just. Take last year, Kevin Durant joins a 70 win team to get a ring, what do you think the headlines were after he got it? LeBron passes the torch as the best player in the world to Durant. To any logical mind Durant is a complete pussy who joined a juggernaut because he couldn’t… Read more »
Gah. Too early to think about the offseason. That’s part of the reason Kevin Love and the rest of the Cavs are in their own heads so much. This team desperately misses RJ and Channing just from a locker room and keeping it loose standpoint. If I’m LeBron I’m doing something to get everyone loose tonight. Yes, Ty Lue is freaking awful. Guy definitely can’t take the pressure of being an NBA head coach but makes too much money to quit. But he still should be able to get it together for game 7. I’m not overreacting to this one.… Read more »
You are coaching me up right now… thanks for the positive outlook.
I’ll have to listen to the entire interview for context but interesting quote from McMenamin’s article: “I mean, he’s a huge part of our success or our non-success,” James said of Love. “Obviously, we try to go to him, we want to go to him. Obviously, we can’t make the shots for him. He has to step up and knock those down. Those things you can’t control. The shot-making, you’re going to have games where you can’t make shots and you can make shots, but we have to continue to let him know how important he is to our success,… Read more »
To answer the question posed in Mike’s roster, I would run for the exits if I was James given the current roster. The late season trade has sadly not been transformative, and virtually every player on the team has shrunk in the moment. I always felt LeBron would stay if the Cavs gave him even a semblance of a supporting cast, but it hasn’t worked out. My biggest “what if” is what the roster would be like today if Gilbert extended Grif ? DG said he also would have still traded Irving, but for what pieces ? And of course… Read more »
I have kind of always thought if they are out before the finals he is gone. The biggest draw to stay with the Cavs is being able to get to the finals easily. If that changes I can’t see him staying. This team is better than what Lue has coached them to be. However, the current personnel is the type that requires a coach with a system that truly maximizes their talent. Lue has never been a guy that maximizes talent. On many occasions he is quite the opposite. So unfortunately, with Lue at the helm, these Cavs just may… Read more »
Every Pacer having their career year in this series, and Cavs have Lebron and maybe Korver doing consistent work, and this is going 7….just shows if half Cavs team is ON, they are impossible to beat….figured by Game 4 this series would go 7 so not too surprised Pacers made practically everything….Cavs have to get more energetic and Lue has to put out all the stops….this would be an embarrassing exit…Pacers really aren’t that good, Cavs role players just haven’t showed up.
Let’s face it–the Pacers have been the better team. They have identified the Cavs’ weaknesses and exploited them, endured the Cavs’ best player’s greatness, and survived to a Game Seven… with a bad call short of having already advanced. I do not think thee Pacers have played that much better, but they given themselves easier shots and taken advantage of their athleticism (and the Cavs’ lack thereof)… The Cavs are the sum of all their parts, and John B is right: Lue is the wrong guy for this team. The Cavs can win Game Seven, but it will probably be… Read more »
Sabonis is nearly doubling his scoring and rebounding averages out of nowhere…Bogdan is shooting better from 3 than he has all season, ditto for Turner, even Lance looks halfway decent, Thad Young is having a renaissance on both ends of the floor; Corey Joseph is shooting better than he has all season; really only Collison and Booker aren’t doing much, and yesterday Collison went nuts for first time all series…just saying, if Hood, Clarkson, JR, Korver, and even Love step up to their abilities, Cavs would win by 20 easy; but thats never happened even once