Live Thread: Cavs @ Hawks, Game 3 (#ChuckTheChuckersChuck?)
2016-05-06[Make sure you check out David’s awesome Wood Shop piece on five man lineups!]
After the Cavaliers rained down historic long-range fire on the heads of the hapless Hawks in Game 2, I was looking forward to Charles Barkley’s post-game eulogy of Atlanta rife with fishing metaphors and veiled shots at their collective manhood. Instead, Chuck went in a bit of a different direction, calling out the Hawks for not “taking someone out” once it was clear the Cavs were just record-hunting in the final quarter by chucking up 11 more threes.
While the wine & gold bench may have been guilty of overzealously trying to set the all-time mark for three pointers in a game, was it really all that disrespectful to a Hawks team that had given up the bulk of the record (22 before the Cavs’ starters all checked out with about four minutes to go in the third) well before garbage time? And, even if it was offensive to them on some level, would it actually warrant causing intentional harm to a Cav to send a message? Clearly, Chuck thought so (Shaq tried to mitigate his comment by asking “you mean touch them up, right?” but Chuck stuck to his guns).
So, thanks in part to Barkley’s soundbite, the conversation immediately following the game seemed to focus less on what the Cavs had achieved historically in their beatdown of Atlanta, and more on whether or not the Hawks would decide to man up and get some physical retribution for this apparent slight. Reporters asked about it. Media talking heads dissected it. Even one old Chuck adversary called him out over it…
Charles Barkley ,you better stop talking s*** about Cleveland you was never tough you hide behind TNT
— Charles Oakley (@CharlesOakley34) May 5, 2016
And of course, the obligatory Chuck response…
https://streamable.com/ulfr?t=38.4
There’s certainly no love lost between the two Charleses, who in addition to sharing a first name, also shared a position, the number 34 and some memorable physical moments on the floor against each other. This one happened in a pre-season game…
So, why spend so much time on this Chuck-foolery? Mainly because there’s not a lot else to talk about or watch for in the (as Ernie Johnson hilariously put it) “if necessary” Game 3. The truth is, unless the Hawks actually decide to get physical and start intentionally trying to hurt the Cavs, they have very little else at their disposal to stop Cleveland’s continued rampage. Sure, the Cavs might (probably will) cool off a bit from their blistering 56% shooting from downtown, and the Hawks may even alter their focus to take the open shots away. However, it would likely be at the expense of packing the paint, which would leave them vulnerable to Cleveland’s ability to attack the rack with abandon.
For his part, Ty Lue doesn’t believe what his guys did was wrong, and he certainly hopes the officials will prevent any sort of impending Chuck-pocalypse…
“I don’t think there’s any place in our game to take someone out if they’re playing well,” Lue said during a conference call with reporters on Thursday. “I think you can take it upon yourself to play harder and do things to stop it or stop a team from playing well. But when it gets into trying to hurt guys or trying to take guys out, that’s just not right. Hopefully the referees will keep an eye on it and make sure it’s a clean game. We don’t mind if it’s a physical game, but clean and everything that they do and we do is basketball related. I don’t believe in taking guys out and trying to hurt guys because a team or a player is playing well.”
LeBron took a more circumspect view on “Chuck being Chuck…”
LeBron James responds to Charles Barkley's comments after the @Cavs dropped 25 3's on the @ATLHawks in Game 2https://t.co/dLw2coZ6Sp
— Bally Sports Cincinnati (@BallySportsCIN) May 6, 2016
Will Atlanta find their inner tough guy… or at least the fake tough guy routine that Al Horford employed in last year’s playoff series when he tried to take out Delly with an atomic elbow? Or will they choose to focus their efforts on trying to at least make the Cavs adjust their game plan and work a bit harder for their points on the road? If they already believe that it’s “Mission: Impossible” like Paul Millsap indicated, it wouldn’t be surprising to see some frustration boil over into aggression.
A likely target could be J.R. Smith who has not only dazzled with his insane array of contested pipe bomb threes, but has also locked down Kyle Korver (allowing only eight shot attempts in the two games with only three makes). As history has shown, J.R. can be susceptible to rankling and retaliation, so the Hawks may try to get under his skin and provoke him to do something stupid.
Odds are that the Cavs will be able to handle whatever the Hawks throw at them, although this should shape up to be the most challenging game of the series to capture. Prediction: The Hawks don’t go down without a fight, and keep this one close to the bitter end. Cavs prevail 102-99.
Catch all the action on ESPN starting at 7 pm (EST)/4 pm (PST), and start Chucking your comments below…
Big 3 on podium. More like Cavs have the Big 4 now -the 4th one is rotating for every game
The Cavs are 11-0 all-time in playoffs games that LeBron James, Kyrie Irving, & Kevin Love played in together
Kevin Love himself is undefeated in the Playoffs.
Maybe Nate mentioned it the other day, but I saw yesterday Zach Lowe’w tweet about the most dangerous Cavs frontcourt being LBJ, Frye and Love. Man was he right tonight.
And tonight he tweeted:
https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/728758974363897856
Hmm, wonder what team he’s referring to in the second part there.
Cavaliers are 1st team in NBA history (regular season or playoffs) w/ at least 20 3-pointers in consecutive games.
InstaCap is up! LET’S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://cavstheblog.com//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////?p=41814
Cavs are awesome. LeBron 19-2 in his last 21 Easter playoff games. Best Leader Ever.
More like Weakest Conference Ever.
TT at -14
Frye at +28
But TT still killed them with 9 O-boards
This made the intentional fouls on TT pretty hilarious. Oh no, you’re going to force them to put Frye in? Good luck.
Mad props to Lue. Out coached gund and now budensjf
Budensjf sux
Griffin is a genius. Got us Frye for nothing.
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/728764066001473536/photo/1
Cavaliers are 1st team in NBA history (regular season or playoffs) w/ at least 20 3-pointers in consecutive games.
Wow. We look better from deep than the Warriors.
We have more good three point shooters, but they have the best ever.
The best ever may not be in the best shape -and we know how Delly competed against him last year- dehydration and all.
I was talking strictly about his three point shooting.
https://twitter.com/oldseaminer/status/728762455955017731
Go buy Frye Jerseys!
Dan G. is probably firing someone in merchandising right now for not having Frye jerseys in the Cavs store.
Nate’s trying desperately to unload his old Frye jersey. ;)
Well 538 can come with a new article tomorrow and put their foot in the mouth:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-cavs-3-point-barrage-in-game-2-was-ridiculous/
I wanted to post that. You beat me to it.
I don’t like to throw shade on the media, but Neil Paine is a trolling hack.
You gotta stick around for like 10 minutes. You’re going to enjoy my InstaCap
I want us to shoot bad next game, regress to the mean with nothing on the line and pick it up next round again.
Dude you guys.
Dude!
How many playoff teams are kicking themselves for not getting Channing Frye right now?
Go OKC! Just Want to see the wine and gold healthy for 7 more weeks.
I guess that shove by Teague was for Chuck. Hawks can go start planning on dismantling their team now.
Frye was MVP of this game…Tristan sucks at free throws…Lebron quiet most of game then making noise when it mattered….Korver and Horford probably best games ever…yet Cavs win by double digits…again
Cavs won the rebounding battle 55-28
4 Cavs players have 20+ points , nice balance, Frye and Irving big in the 4th. Fry “player of the game” for Us 3 Players have 10+ rebounds
This is a great win for “team-building”
Didn’t see that final score coming. Wow. What a fourth quarter. What a good job bringing in Frye, the human extension of Griffin’s acumen. Wow.
Frye: “I just had to turn the barb-b-que on…”
Here’s the Hawks and Cavs tonight. If I had any patience, I’d photoshop a Teague and Lebron head on the two of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0pXLNtNjm8
You make 16/34 threes, shooting 47%,, you force 18 turnovers, the opponent shoots 59% from the free throw line, your starting point guard has a 19 and 14 game with just one turnover…….and you lose by 13 at home!!! That has to be the most demoralising defeat we have inflicted to them. They will blow their team up this summer. Book it.
Stick a fork in Atlanta. With those stats, you would think Atl won by 10-15. Most impressive stat, Cavs 22-5 run when James came in for 4th
totally agree….see teague horford and mill sap leaving…they keep some guy core guys and do some trades for big men…also see humphries and selfalosha gone as well….need stars in this league or at least a star player
NBA should suspend rest of this series…Hawks are horrible and Teague basically injured a fan who rooted for his team…what a douche
Honestly, I think this was the most impressive win of the playoffs so far for the Cavs.
What. a. team.
By far. Took a monster shot from the Hawks and ended up winning by double digits. Incredibly impressive.
Man, Why do I feel that the league is underestimating the Cavs this postseason?
Frye: 27 points in 28 minutes, +28, 10-13, 7-9 from deep, 7 rebounds.
whoa. LeBron just might make his teammates better…
Wheres the instacap? :)
Oh dude. It is coming. already recorded. Uploading now. This may be the last InstaCap you ever watch. I went for High Risk High Reward
Uh-oh. From sleeveless to no shirt this time?
66 Point 2nd Half, to put Hawks to bed…
Really love the toughness showed by the Cavs in this win…The refs were calling it for the Hawks the whole game, Atlanta was playing pretty much their best and the Cavs still prevail…Not to mention Hubie was openly anti Cavs the whole game and we were able to make him shut his damn mouth…
Hubie is becoming more and more un-becoming as he grows old
Tirico, channeling Griffin, has called the Cavs “galvanized” at least twice.
Ridiculous how much Tirico commentates against the Cavs
That was a 36-17 fourth quarter. LeBron: “Kyrie hit the reset button.”
Can you imagine how these announcers would be creaming themselves if the Warriors were doing what the Cavs are?