
Playoff Live Thread: Cavs vs. Pacers (Game 7, The Skip Feed)
2018-04-29The previous three potential Cavalier playoff exits were all about the present: In 2015 through 2017, the wine and gold were playing for a championship in that moment. This afternoon, though? The Cavs aren’t playing for a championship. They’re playing for their future: the next series, the playoffs, the future of this franchise for possibly the next five years. It’s a lot to expect for a young squad not to look into the future and focus on the moment at hand. Playing with LeBron James provides for constant distractions. Heck, our fans can’t even stay enthused. Thankfully, I think Game 6 was an intercepted skip feed: it led to a runout, but the series is still theirs.
As for the Cavs roster, there was still some mystery as of last night. George Hill is questionable with Ty Lue simply saying Hill “moved around pretty good so we will see.” Ty was also cagey with the lineup, hinting that they may need more size to contend with Indy inside. I’d love to see Larry in the starting (and especially closing) lineup, but I doubt it happens. Still, I’m picking the Cavs this game, for no other reason than that they tend to bounce back in games like this, and the extended rest at the end of Game 6 will be good for all involved. They’ve just got to stay loose and play without fear, especially Kevin Love. I hope J.R. hooked Kev up with some of the good-good last night to loosen him up (joking). James himself looks loose, after “coaching” his son to another victory yesterday. I hope to see more of these on the St. V’s sidelines in coming years.
To give you a more extended preview and series recap, I’ll turn you over to long time CtBer, Right Down Euclid (the first), who penned this piece on our relationship and Indy’s relationship with LeBron James.
First time contributor/long time commenter/one time hitchhiker Right Down Euclid here. I’ve found myself with a bit more time on my hands lately and as I started typing out a lengthy response to EG’s Game 5 recap a few nights ago, I realized I had the beginnings of a full-fledged CTB post on my hands and now here I am. See kids: anything is possible!
Just a couple of games ago I finally learned from Nate what a skip feed is after hearing Fred McLeod mention it so many times and I decided it would be a great name for this potential periodical. A skip feed, whereby a player passes from one side of the floor to the other while bypassing an intermediate player, is a great analogy for the glory and pain of playing with LeBron. And in one of our many shared similarities, it’s also a great analogy for how my mind works and the glory and pain of working with me.
As we’ve long agonized (particularly lately) at CTB, LeBron consistently eschews system and scheme in favor of his Bobby Fischer-like ability to see plays unfold 2-3 moves ahead and instead hold the ball until making one home run pass with seconds left on the shot clock. On the upside, more often than not he makes the right play and it becomes nearly impossible to plan against. On the downside, it turns everyone around him into a bit player in the travelling LeBron circus. LeBron is the platform and JR Smith is just the Uber driver you gave three stars for not wearing a shirt. And when jumpshots stop falling at a high clip, and LeBron can’t go supernova that night because he’s logged more playoff minutes than anyone else and is bleeding from the face, sometimes you lose by 34 in a closeout game.
I can relate because in my day job I similarly can often see things unfolding 2-3 steps out and go for the mental “skip pass.” But more often than not I fail to bring my colleagues along with my ideas and end up yelling at Kevin Love for making the wrong cut while the other guys go sprinting down the floor in the other direction. It’s at this point my manager will tell me to turn off the Cavs game, stop yelling at Kevin Love, and get back to work. That and calling this column “The Skip Feed” means I’m right on brand when I post inconsistently about random topics that pop into my head.
Back to matters at hand, Evil Genius brought up the analogy of LeBron to the Pacers as Michael Jordan is to the Cavs. It’s unreal that Pacers fans may very likely end up viewing LeBron exactly how Cavs fans think about Jordan. Michael eliminated the Cavs four times between 1988 and 1993. (Incidentally it happened again in 1994 sans MJ with the Bulls en route to the Eastern Conference Semis, which if memory serves me correctly is a similar result to how the Cavs performed the year after LeBron left). No matter how good those early 90’s Cavs teams were, greatness personified was always standing in their way.
If the Cavs can win Sunday, it will be the fifth time in seven years that LeBron has eliminated the Pacers. 10 years from now Pacers fans will be saying “man we had some great teams with Paul George and Roy Hibbert and Lantz’s brother but we just always had the best standing in our way.” Eventually, I imagine the pain will fade and they will appreciate their front row seat to LeBron’s greatest moments. For me, I always think of MJ a little bit more fondly because he’s inextricably linked to the Cavs more than most non-Chicago teams. It’s impossible to properly tell the history of Jordan without telling the story of “those early 90’s Cavs teams that were actually really good” and it’s impossible to show “The Shot” “Michael Jordan’s Shot” without highlighting a lesser known Cleveland team just on the cusp of greatness.
Basking in the glory of “The Shot” after Game 5 sent me down a YouTube rat hole, which eventually took me to a “best crowd reaction” video and to Kobe’s final 60 point game. I have to admit it did strike me while watching the crowd go insane for Kobe that Cleveland may not ever have the same relationship with LeBron that LA did with Kobe. Kobe played 20 seasons in LA and more importantly they watched him win five rings. Now I’m not trying to re-litigate the decision or blame LeBron as our one championship will always mean more to Cleveland than Kobe’s five in LA. But that said it’s striking to think, as great as LeBron is, we have so much less shared history with him than LA does with Kobe or Chicago does with Michael. LeBron will forever be ours but it’s easy to forget his resume was largely written while wintering in South Beach.
At the same time the fact that we share as many tears of sadness and frustration with LeBron as we do tears of joy makes our connection to him that much more visceral, more familial, and more well…Cleveland. It’s been written many times before that part of the reason LeBron leaving Cleveland hurt so much is because many of us saw in his actions a reflection of our own and they do say people who live in glasses houses shouldn’t throw lead pipes.
So while our relationship with LeBron will always be infinitely more complex, less joyful, and less fan-boyish than LA’s with Kobe or Chicago’s with Michael, it will always be more authentic and relatable. Our relationship is with James, the man, more than it is with James, the icon. The movie version will have real highs, lows, suspense and tension, which is something LA fans never really had to experience other than one scene in Colorado.
In season 15, Kobe’s Lakers were swept in the second round by the eventual NBA champion Dallas Mavericks. The Lakers were coming off back to back championships — the same position LeBron’s Cavs could very well be in were it not for Kevin Durant joining a 73-win team. Kobe was content with 5 rings in hand to live out his last 7 seasons in Lakerland receiving only a suddenly divalike Dwight Howard and a version of Steve Nash that spent much of his time horizontal next to the bench.
Kobe had three with Shaq and all five with Phil and didn’t make it out of the first round seven times. Michael didn’t make it out of the first round until he had Scottie and he didn’t achieve anything without Phil. Incidentally, you couldn’t be blamed for wondering whether it was actually Phil who was the platform and Michael and Kobe his repertory players.
In a draft of this piece I wrote before Game 6 I ended on note of hope that LeBron’s Game 5 heroics would serve to inspire Kevin Love and Rodney Hood to rise above whatever it is that’s been plaguing them. But sitting here late Friday night it’s hard to deny that Sunday is all about LeBron.
For the first time since the 66-win 2009 Cavs he’s probably questioning what he’s even playing for. Is it because he doesn’t lose in the first round? Is it because he knows what “The Shot” and owning the Pacers like how Michael owned the Cavs will do for his legacy if he can get one more win? Or is he just that driven that he will fight and claw his way through this 15th season until he’s given his all?
After Sunday he’ll have to ask himself day after day until July: what is he playing for? For two more rings? For 38,388 points? To go down as one of the greats who, with few exceptions, played all of their meaningful minutes in the same colored jersey? Certainly it’s not lost on LeBron the difference between Kobe’s farewell tour of adulation and the twilight years of rent-a-Shaq, which went out with a whimper in the form of a tweet from his home office.
It’s tempting to say LeBron has done more with less than any other player before him but that’s more a statement on the quality of his coaches than his teammates. Wade and Kyrie were LeBron’s Scottie for the last seven seasons and he just so happened to make the finals in all seven of them – losing most recently only when his sidekick got injured or when Kevin Durant joined a 73-win team.
That’s where the comparisons to history end as LeBron embarks upon an unprecedented fourth act to his career. With health on his side he seemingly has a lot left to prove. But he must prove it in a league full of super teams, Processes, competent NBA coaches, Kevin Durant on a 73-win team, and a budding Pacer superstar and his revved up Pacers.
GH and TT was Lue’s master plan for this game.
Hell of a coaching job by Nate. Pacers are tough as nails. I don’t think they are that great, but they are gritty as hell and game plan need the hell out of this series.
Game planned the hell
TT has earned his spot back in the starting line up.
The “old” TT did… the newer Kardashian/gravity-bound TT should never…
I don’t think Toronto will be this difficult IMO.
they won’t play nearly this physical.
No way in hell. They should be so much easier. Cavs in 4-5
Pacers deserve mad respect. They are one hell of a team.
Seeya in China, Lance…
Phew.
Make one hill.
That’ll do it. Thank you TT and George Hill, and Lebron, of course…
And that should nail it in it.
Hill a great FT shooter to the line…
And of course…
Nice idea by Hill to work the clock there.
Series over.
Just enough help for Bron. TT all game. Plus a key spurt from Hill & Love with Bron sitting.
Got just enough from Korver, JR, Green, & Nance.
That is our top 8 going forward.
Not over. Cavs have to execute on the inbound and make fts.
will be interesting if LeBron knows he’s like 2 points away from the all time record for points in a game 7 and tries to shoot the FT even though Korver or Hill should
Hopefully Lue draws up a play to get one of the latter open.
Why did JG stay outside and didn’t come down to rebound the ball.
Both Cavs and Indy out of time outs.
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I think Hill has played every minute since he was brought in…he is still on the floor, right?
I believe so.
Yep, he is. So he couldn’t play, then will play the last 20 minutes straight…I think Lue has a head injury. (And they have needed every minute of Hill)
He was only brought in late in the third or early fourth right. Pretty much needed him to.
Mid third.
Shut up Van Gundy!
Seriously
Finish them, Bron…
That should do it!
Kk so smart. Finally LBJ doesn’t settle for mismatch iso.
Is it just me, or does JR play great defense in the first quarter and terrible in the 2nd half?
I think a lot of these guys are gassed. Dude is like 33
I think he wore down.
Game ends when Tony Brothers misses an inbounds foul on Lance while he slugs LBJ out of bounds while inbounding.
Cavs get a stop here and it’s game, set, match!
wow that was huge. Bog got a fingertip on that pass too
Hellava pass by Korver there.
Gorgeous!
Sweep pass KK !
Hell of a pass by KK….
Filthy pass by Korver!
2 minute report will be lit…
Prevent iso offense is bad bad bad. Basically just allows the other team to get back in the game and keep it close
Tony Brothers needs to be fined!
I want this series to be over. So tired of this crap.
I do not understand why Bron shoots jumpers vs Bogdan all the time.
We need 1 more bucket.
Cavs should be up 8 shooting free throws to make it 10. Instead it’s a 4 point game.
Can’t let Oladipo get a layup like that.
Way to go Tony Brothers & Crew…
God horrible offense James. Takes 17 seconds just to get James the ball and then a fadeaway contested j.
These refs are trash!
James just cannot keep shooting jumpers now
Sabonis over the back & then anothet bad call on Bron.
George Hill needs to shoot that ball
Give me a break. Another horrible call.
Good god, these refs…
Missed shot clock violation
Bleep these refs!
Obvious 24 second violation
That was a shot clock violation.
Great block by tt. God he has been huge
Was that a 24 shot clock violation?
Yes. Indy fans can complain about that.
TT with the block — might have been off the glass.
TT having himself a game…
TT!!!!!! GET THAT WEAK STUFF OUTTA HERE
Wow! What a block by TT!
Ty Lue doesn’t know what’s going on face. Classic Lue.
Seriously triple teamed Oladipo there LOL. Collison with a horrible miss.
Collision wide open on that three but misses. Cavs dodge a bullet.
Lebron trying the prevent offense…prevents them from scoring…
Yep. Not effective
Don’t like the hero ball iso. If James wants to iso, go in the post. Run p and r with hill and actually roll. Stop playing for mismatch
Good on the Cavs with the energy on getting those effort TO’s and rebounds.
Late foul there on TT…but a foul…
wish someone would make this pic : “was years ago when I read this on CtB, but it was a joke at Mike Brown’s expense saying that his entire offense strategy was a picture of LeBron James with a rocket attached to his back with a dotted arrow leading to the basket.”
Haha. My memory is hazy. It might have been an actual picture. All I know is that the Le-ISO seemed like Brown’s entire offensive game plan.
Cavs are +12 on the glass. 14 offensive boards: TT 5, Love 3, Bron 2, JR 2, Hill & Clarkson 1.
That was clearly a foul on Turner what is van Gundy talking about? It wasnt even worth complaining about.
swish made the first FT – a rare sight indeed!
Get Bog out, should be easy, he fouls constantly…he is a potential three point threat…
I think he’s got 4 called fouls, but 56 non-called fouls.
Five fouls
He has 5. He would be a great ‘Bad Boys’ Piston…
Dude is infuriating. But he sets it up early…makes the refs call it in the first quarter. If they dont…he gets to be a jerk the rest of the game and he knows it
Turner grabbed JR’s shoulder and yanked him back. Obvious foul — stop making excuses.
(Mark Jackson on gets it right…)
Shocking that he did. And no surprise JVG tried to make a stink about it.
I wonder how much of the national zeitgeist on the feelings of the game stem from the word vomit of JVG and Jackson.
Ok jr nice acting but I will take it