Live Thread: Cavs @ Clippers
2022-11-07Hey Cavs fans! The extremely rare occurrence of a late night west coast wine & gold tilt combined with a relatively free morning for me in my part of the world has coalesced into an opportunity for me to share a live thread with all of you good people.
To this day, I can’t really understand why the other L.A. team is still called the Clippers. I mean, I sort of got it when they were based out of San Diego (given the sea port it still is), but most modern teams change their monikers upon swapping bases of operations these days. Not to mention the distancing they might have done from both the dark era of losing and Donald Sterling ownership.
A clipper is after all a narrow 19th century era sailing ship designed for speed. I’m not sure the same qualities apply to this current iteration of the L.A. team. In fact, they are one of the tougher teams to get a true read on in this current NBA season. When their parts are whole (PG-13, Kawhi Leonard, etc) they seem to have a fairly lofty ceiling. But their parts are so rarely whole these days.
One team that’s not hard to get a read on, however, is our less and less surprisingly 8-1 Cavaliers. We knew Donovan Mitchell would be good… but this good? This soon? And, the fact that Darius Garland has played two and a half games of those nine is also kind of incredible.
It’s not the easiest back-to-back the Cavs may face this year… but technically, they should be more rested than the Clips who sailed back from Utah last night while the Cavs were already docked in L.A. swabbing the decks of the remains of the Lakers.
Looking for a strong start tonight and the good guys to coast to a 117-102 victory. Chime in, I’ll be here all night/morning!
GO CAVS!
Cavs did two things very wrong tonight: 1 they played cedi osman like he isn’t a lightning rod. Like he doesn’t score 18 points in ten mins.
Did Cedi get hurt? 3 Minutes is inexcusable if not.
Best thibs impression. Jb perhaps lacks confidence to be able to give up a streak and/or rest his players.
You know that’s what it looks like to me, and it has a feel of desperation.If he rests them they’ll never hang on, and either that’s not true or they have a real problem.
well, streaks don’t define a season.. but i think this was in their collective head.. probably good to burst the bubble now.. this was an easy win.. but they reverted to garbage.. rather than being precision operators.. and echoing JohnB.. don’t run the top into stupid over-use injuries.. play the players.. let them grow.. neto would have helped protect the lead.. okoro plays D, but is still a liability.. he is certainly not living up to the #5 billing
I’m extremely annoyed that Morris killed them tonight.
He sure shot well. :-(
Amazing intentional miss by Mitchell at the end. SO CLOSE to working.
Hopefully JB takes responsibility for this one. No need to get down.
This is the game where a healthy Rubio wins it for them. DG needs a little less run to be mentally there for the finish.
Yasssss!!
Exactly ,Jb hung them out to dry.
Good learning experience for both the team and JB.
TBH I was hoping JB would just rest starters this game. You don’t need to prove anything by winning every game. Long season. Rolling in March and April is way more important than rolling early. They’re young, but don’t burn guys out unnecessarily.
Not saying that happened but I am concerned with how much he rides a tight rotation. Individual games don’t matter. Health and being cohesive in the final half of the season does.
Basically 8 man rotation again (cedi plays a grand total of 3 minutes) on a west coast b2b with DM playing 39 minutes. I frankly don’t like that at all. Could care less about losing a game to the clips.
agree with the sentiment..
Exactly.
I am in agreement that winning every game doesnt matter…but winning the games you have insurmountable odds to win in the 4th qutr ends up mattering almost always. The cavs would have playoff experience right now if it weren’t for a few basically unacceptable losses last year. Losing this game means nothing if they win the next several. But goodness…if this starts a streak of poor play…this is the moment to look back on and think “all the good habits went out the window this game”
On last year, injuries derailed that as did their inexperience. We’ll see how they respond but it wasn’t going to be a 70 win season with a couple bad losses.
All I mean is teams that win titles usually win the games They are up 12 with 4 mins left . if they dont…they aren’t likely title teams
I sort of doubt they are a title team this year. Just based on inexperience for most of the players other than DM, Love, Levert. It takes awhile to breakthrough for young teams. Maybe they will be an outlier, but based upon history it is unlikely.
Hope DG learns from that. Much of that loss is on JB for blowing his challenge and abysmal substitutions.
they play stupid.. they can and will lose.. they play smart and disciplined.. better outcome..
Better this than getting outplayed for 48 minutes… young team, still needs some work on figuring out how to close tight ones…
I think they are young too. Really I do. The warriors took like 4 years to build and 2 more years to matter. But before them…what team compares to the cavs development model?
Very true
19-5 run to close for the Clippers.. sigh.. just a disappointing way to end the game.
A gritty win for the guys in stripes!
Good game until they last few minutes.
agree, it was an ugly and frustrating game, especially at the end.. just killed ourselves, they werent playing Cavs ball.
Tough loss… Cavs hit my score… but collapse down stretch ruined the other end…
Gah. Allen. What where u doing? He kissed it right to your spot!
terrible lack of poise.Gave it away.
Make two. Miss third.
Almost had it Don…
and the Garland missed foul shot looks really bad now
Why would PG do that? Moronic!
Missed it, What did he do?
Fouled DM shooting a 3!
Well, shucks, tough end. I think it goes on Garland and JB. Players gotta close, though
If only that went it!
PG dumb play
Crap.
Tag your it!
Go for the steal and a Hail Mary 3 for the win!!!
17 TO’s fo cavs and DM should have gotten more shots
DG misses the FT.
Deserved loss.
This is about the third time we have choked hard down the stretch. Got away with it the first two times, not tonight.
It was a fun run. Start the next streak on Wednesday.
If Neto isn’t hurt, this loss is all on JB…
He is hurt. He looked very hurt playing last night.
FTs……
Sigh…
DG awful game…
Yeah his last 5 mins have been bad.
Yep. Awful finish for sure. Mitchell had a similar thing happen earlier.
No timeouts left…
Dumb
Morris with a gift call.
Should have been a travel… refballed again…
We scored!!!
Because of DM making the right play.
That’s it for Mobes…
Smart play by Don
The refs have turned the game in this run…they’re allowing clips to foul and grab every possession while if the Cavs look at a clipper it’s a foul…we’ve made mistakes but many forced by uncalled fouls
I stayed up until 1:40 for this ?.. sigh..
Sorry Sweetchi.
Some learning opportunities here lol.
Why in God’s name was Okoro in there? He doesn’t have the reputation to get a friendly whistle there.
Not sure anyone is getting a friendly whistle on the Cavs tonight.
Im sorry nate but whaaaattt? He is in there cuz they keep living in his potential rather than living in the option that has worked in Stevens. And I think living in potential is great when the upside is there. I really do. But you dont love on potential of you are a championship contender. He one million percent needa to go play with the charge and prove his shot work matters. We are busy winning right now.
Did we get refballed a bit? Yeah.
Can you bitch about losing ehen you don’t score for 4 minutes, tirn it over a ton, and your best player does not get a shot? No.
Horrible ending.
Didn’t figure this game or trip would be easy.
This was an easy win three minutes ago…
And yet…you have to closeout games. Against lal, scrubs made a run late.
JB needed to recognize DG was gassed…
Dumb. One of the worst coached stretches I’ve seen by JB.
Big collapse. Hope they learn from this. They’ve been sloppy at the end of some of these last few games.
They are getting in the paint and we are just turning the ball over, fouling and shooting 3’s… we need a DM moment.
Refs absolutely screwing the Cavs… but Cavs have also screwed themselves these last few minutes…
Ugh!!
Wow,they seem intent on losing this game.
Im sorry but the solutions are available if we have tired legs. jB refuses to use them
Have to agree… no excuse to go this starter heavy on a back-to-back…
He might be in the thibs vein with riding guys.
Signs for DG were there…..JB failed to act.
Yup… could have used some Neto minutes
A potential teachable moment coming up for the lads. I’d prefer a win, of course.
I’m sure the refs will match the Clips to the line on this next possession.
March
They swallowed the whistles to get the game going at 4 minutes and never turned it back on.
Garland ain’t right yet… this should be DM taking over in the crunch…
Ball denial on Mitchell has worked.
Take Garland out. His heads out of the game.put the ball in Mitchell’s hands.
We have not scored in over 4 minutes FFS.
DG has been terrible.
Get DM the ball!
What kind of iso ball is Garland doing.. pass the ball atleast!
Ball don’t lie.
GET THE BALL TO DON!!!!
The refs blow!!!
Allen got assaulted but powell gets throws?
Ball don’t lie…
Horseshit.