Recap: Cavs 117, Clippers 119 (or, Running on Empty)
2022-11-08Running on (running on empty)
Running on (running blind)
Running on (running into the sun)
But I’m running behind
-Jackson Browne
Back-to-backs are part of the NBA grind. Road back-to-backs are even tougher. All teams go through them… and respond in different ways. Young teams with young legs (especially early in the season) typically don’t need a ton of load management in these situations. Yet, young teams that are still learning sometimes accidentally run out of gas trying to close out games they should win.
For 43 minutes against a trendy pre-season championship contender pick, Los Angeles Clippers, the Cleveland Cavaliers had plenty of fuel in the tank. They turned a tightly contested game into a 13 point, seemingly commanding lead with just five minutes remaining. However, unlike the Lakers who were content to wave the white flag at a similar juncture the day prior… this NBA Champion Ty Lue coached Clips squad was resilient enough to run past the young Cavs on a 21-6 tear to cross the finish line first.
At one point, Los Angeles scored 15 straight… while the Cavs sputtered and stalled out, missing seven consecutive shots and committing three costly turnovers. The only remaining fuel was thrown on the fiery Clippers by the attendants in stripes who missed several egregious errors to compound Cleveland’s miserable stretch. Yet, refballing alone doesn’t account for coughing up a double digit lead in mere minutes. No, the real onus lies with the man driving this team who either took his eye off of the fuel gage… or was attempting to do something not even Cosmo Kramer could pull off… to go “further to the left of the slash THAN ANYONE EVER DREAMED!”
Just like Kramer, JB Bickerstaff decided to stick to his dreams of extending the longest winning streak in five years by once again riding his starters until there were only fumes remaining. But like Kramer and Icarus before him… JB flew too close to the sun and dared fate to teach him and his young team a (hopefully) valuable lesson. Even young legs get tired. Championship level teams don’t get left on the side of the road… they pace themselves to make it back to the dealership with the win.
If the surprising win last Friday night over the (admittedly lowly) Pistons in Detroit didn’t prove to Bickerstaff just how deep his tank of reserves is… I’m not sure what will. Using an eight man rotation in early November on the second night of a back-to-back against a veteran team like the Clippers is borderline criminal, and at the very least highly inexcusable. Where was Raul Neto (DNP-CD) to spell a clearly gassed Darius Garland with some timely workmanlike and reliable ball handling and gritty defense? Where was Robin Lopez (DNP-CD) to give Evan Mobley (who fouled out) a few minutes and fouls of his own to the undersized Clipper front court? Where was the court time for Cedi Osman (three minutes) and Lamar Stevens (DNP-CD), two wings that might have helped on the perimeter to slow down the 17-38 three point barrage unleashed by Los Angeles?
For all of his fiery halftime speeches, JB has become positively Thibsian when designing his rotations lately in this young season. Yes… riding your starters when they are as dominant and fueled up as they can be for big matchups and playoff previews is one thing. But, playing your starting back court 38-39 minutes a night in a back-to-back in games 9-10 of an 82 game season is kind of insane… particularly when you have so many highly playable rotation pieces in reserve.
Adding fuel to the fire, JB chose to use his challenge (and burn a timeout which might have been better used in the final flurry to set up a game tying three) on a foul call against Mobley that was pretty clearly a foul. And, as a result, didn’t have that same challenge to reverse a costly offensive foul call against Caris LeVert that wound up being the start of the reverse Cavalanche. It certainly seemed like a more potentially winnable challenge with the way the Clipper defender crashed into Caris on his release of his triple, which (if overturned) would have given LeVert three shots at the line and possibly ended the momentum before it started for L.A.
Now that I’ve possibly overreacted to JB’s seeming inattention to fuel gauges and replay, let’s take Donovan Mitchell’s post-game interview advice and not overreact to the significance of this tired defeat rudely snatched from the jaws of victory. After all, Don thinks there’s a lesson to be learned about how teams might play the Cavs come playoff time…
And, he’s right. The Clippers did a really good job of focusing on him, denying him the ball and forcing the other Cavs to beat them in crunch time. Even though Spida wound up with another 30 point performance on a crazy efficient 10-15 shooting, including 8-11 from deep, he didn’t have a made field goal in the final 11 minutes of the game.
Garland, as tired as he seemed in the end, still put up 19 points and 12 dimes. Though he took several uncharacteristically ill-advised and ill-timed threes throughout the night and turned the ball over five times. It’s important to remember DG is only really 3.5 games into this season given the gruesome eyelid injury and subsequent knee tweak in the last Celtics game. So, there’s definitely confidence he’ll bounce back from an oddly subpar evening and be gassed up and ready to go on Wednesday.
The front court was certainly a highlight early and then for the majority of the final quarter until the last five minutes. Evan Mobley looked like a man possessed initially, putting up 16 points in the first half on his way to what seemed like could be his first 30 point game of the year. Unfortunately, foul trouble plagued him, and even though he ended up with an impressive 26 points on 12-18 shooting to go with eight boards, he fouled out in the final minute and was a -20 on the night.
Meanwhile, Jarrett Allen was an absolute glass monster tonight, snagging an incredible 20 on his way to a double-double with 10 points to go with two steals and two blocks. With the Cavs shooting so well from the perimeter (16-33), there wasn’t much attention paid to some possible easy paint points for JA, but he thoroughly dominated Ivica Zubac… and saved his best block for Mr. Diplomatic Immunity a la Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon 2…
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— Cleveland Cavaliers (@cavs) November 8, 2022
Big props once again for another outstanding Kevin Love performance as well. Gramps showed he still has plenty left in the tank (at least in his 20-25 minutes) with 17 points, eight rebounds, four assists and a steal. He almost singlehandedly built the Cavs biggest lead of the night in the fourth quarter, outscoring the Clippers 11-5 before the car stalled in the final five minutes.
Caris LeVert was solid with six boards and five dimes, but only netted four points on 2-8 shooting. His mid-range game was off again, and it would probably behoove JB and the team to draw up more slashing drives for Caris in the flow of the game.
Dean Wade hit a couple of big threes, but was sadly only given 15 minutes of burn by JB.
Overall, this was one of those early season lessons that every young team is faced with as they strive towards real and sustained contention. The question will be whether or not they, and their coach decide to make this loss a valuable one by responding with a bit more attention and care to fuel shortages along the way. As JB said in his post-game… “You don’t expect to win them all. You expect to have some adversity and some ups and downs, but it’s what happens next.”
Indeed, JB. Learn from this… and don’t mess around with the left of the slash.
Parting Shot
On a personal note, it’s been a long time since I’ve been able to watch a full game in real time and write it up afterwards. While I certainly was hoping to recap the ninth straight victory to start the season, it was tremendous fun watching this game and following along with the commentariat. This is an incredibly entertaining, dynamic, resilient and endearing team to watch, and it’s a real joy to have such an awesome collection of young (and veteran) talented guys who pull and root for each other nightly. The road beckons, and the Cavs will keep running on this trip. Hope to join you all for a couple more at least, and may this team fuel us all winter long. Peace out and GO CAVS!
LT up
Jazz beating the Hawks. Up 10 with 5 to go.
Lauri Legend doing work
I wish we could have kept him in that deal.
WOW READ THE STORY ON WINDLER—–REALLY LIKE THE KID —BUT JUST DON’T THINK IT IS ” IN THE CARDS ” FOR HIM TO HAVE AN NBA CAREER——SAID IT BEFORE IN “JEST” HE IS A HELL OF A GOLFER// HE MIGHT WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE
Good for Jacque Vaughn. Glad the Nets didn’t double down on instability.
Not me. More instability would be pretty hilarious. But yeah good for Jaque Vaughn, although that is a coaching situation that is not ideal.
this just in: Nets hire some other guy as HC
Congrats Jacque Vaughn? Good luck buddy. Hope your liquor cabinet is stocked.
Still stings. Those refs, man… but cavs showed their need to grow. Only needed a single bucket in 7 trips and couldn’t get a shot off on half of them. Looking forward to how they play out similar situations as year goes on!
yeah. being tired was a big part of it.
Windler and PRP treatment:
https://www.cleveland.com/cavs/2022/11/dylan-windler-to-have-prp-injection-in-injured-right-ankle-sources-say.html
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ASAP, preferably at a Cavs game!
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Yeah, no thanks. Seriously.
Reading KJG is like having a drunk sit down next to you in a sports bar
Those are both Lebron team moves. I wouldn’t mind them picking up a solid vet though. Neither of those guys are improvements at the end of the bench
Really great profile on Jarrett Allen over on the Athletic:
https://theathletic.com/3777667/2022/11/09/jarrett-allen-cavaliers-anchor/
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34974180/the-hoop-collective-cleveland-best-team-lebron-fueling-cavs
NBA two minute report admits they blew two crucial calls. They shouldn’t have been in the position that two calls could lose the game, but they did. Good learning experience nonetheless.
How the heck did we lose the game to the clips? C’mon cavs dont lose your way. Defense was either atrocious or sub par depending on how much I waz paying attention to whether clips were making yolo shots or cavs just werent in position
Hell yeah, EG dropping a jewel!!! Couldn’t see the game, but got the picture from the box score and recap… with you 100% on using the bench on the 2nd game of a back to back, 8 man rotations in that situation is just too shortsighted, it’s the freaking beginning of November for crying out loud!! Also 100% agree they’ll learn from it move on… it’s only a bad loss in the context of the game, but the Clippers were a lot of people’s choice for Western Conference finalist/championship contender, but the Kawhi thing has thrown a wrench into that… Read more »
WCC—TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU AND BW—POSTED EARLIER—-CEDI ONLY 3 MIN’S // ESPECIALLY THE “FIRE ” HE HAS BEEN BRINGING OFF THE BENCH—-NETO IN MY OPINION HAS BEEN DOING A VERY GOOD JOB IN HIS LIMITED MIN’S// SHOULD BE GOOD FOR 10–12 MIN’S // GAME —ROLO SHOULD BE GETTING AT LEAST 6 MIN’S / GAME TO GIVE THE BIGS A REST AND STEVENS CAN GO BE A “DAWG ” FOR 4-6 MIN’S // GAME —KEEPS THESE GUYS GAME READY// ENERGIZED// MOTIVATED AND GIVE THE STARTERS A MUCH NEEDED REST—JB//COACHING STAFF HAS TO MAKE THIS A HIGH PRIORITY
Had to listen to the LA games, so CtB is my perspective for what really went on. Is Cedi injured? Box score says he only played 3:24 minutes. WTF? Wade minutes light too. Not egregious minutes for the starters, but probably should be trimmed 4 or 5 minutes. I think Neto’s play has warranted 10-15 minutes a game. That could give Spida, DG and Caris all an additional few minutes of rest
I really like JB a lot but this stuff drives me absolutely nuts. Sometimes he gets it right by riding the hot hand, but waaaay too often it’s counter-productive the way he’s wearing guys down. And it’s also hypocritical given his “the strength of the team is the team” mantra.
good points
Yeah, he was killing me last year with this stuff. Don’t run your guys ragged in November, JB. Had to get up at zero dark thirty for work, so I didn’t catch this one. Probably for the best, since I would have raged at losing that kind of lead down the stretch.
Onward and upward.
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WOW A RECAP FROM THE EVIL ONE —SOOOO ENJOYABLE—-CAVS WEREN’T THE ONLY LOSERS LAST NIGHT I “LOST” THE CHANCE NOT ONLY TO BE WITH MY CTB BROTHERS BUT ALSO THE ” LEGENDARY EVIL ONE “—–DID WATCH RECAP—-AGREE WITH MOST OF THE POSTS –JB LOST SIGHT OF “SOUND COACHING DECISIONS ” IN PURSUIT OF KEEPING WINNING STREAK ALIVE —-HEALTH IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN WINNING—-LET THIS GAME SERVE AS A VERY GOOD LEARNING LESSON BY ALL —-ESPECIALLY BY JB—–ALL THESE PLAYERS NEED THAT VALUABLE EXPERIENCE SO WHEN YOU HAVE TO INSERT THEM COME APRIL// MAY IT IS NOT INTIMADATING TO THEM—THEY FEEL… Read more »
I rate the foul call against Mobley as pretty clearly NOT a foul. They showed it a couple times, and the announcers were impressed with what a great block it was, other than some incidental contact by the other arm. That call would however be a hard one for the office to overturn, and a couple challenges were needed at the end. The game ended with a sequence of iffy calls all going the Clippers way. Some were dead wrong, like a foul instead of a travel when the Clip was trapped out near half court. And what was the… Read more »
Just not gonna get that over turned. Plus it’s a jump ball at best if overturned. Bad challenge. The LeVert offensive foul is the kind of thing you save a challenge for cause you could potentially get a shooting foul on the replay.
3 offensive/defensive call is the highest ev on a coach’s challenge there is.
ev?
expected value
thnx
Do the Cavs only care about rebounding at the end of games? If so, why? Through the first ten games this season, according to nba.com stats . . . Cavs’ offensive rebounding percentages: 25.6% in 1st quarters (#20 in the NBA) 28.4% in 2nd quarters (#18) 24.1% in 3rd quarters (#24) 35.1% in 4th quarters (# 2) Cavs’ defensive rebounding percentages: 72.5% in 1st quarters (#20 in the NBA) 73.0% in 2nd quarters (# 9) 79.3% in 3rd quarters (# 2) 83.1% in 4th quarters (# 1 in the league!) Maybe it wouldn’t be quite as necessary to await Cavalanches… Read more »
Good find and it jives with the trend of their defense getting progressively better throughout the game. We have given up some high scoring first qtrs this year.
great stuff Treize!!!
JB run the backups some!!!
I agree Go Cavs
We need Rubio back so that JB will be forced to give him some of DGs minutes.
Props to Ty Lue for ordering ball denial on Mitchell for the final 5 minutes. Hopefully someone else will try and that and normal DG will destroy them.
Time change on top of travel would have made it feel like almost 2am for the boys from Ohio when the game ended. DG turned into a pumpkin, I’m afraid.
Ah well. Disappointed but not discouraged. Thanks for the cap EG! Great to see you back.
Nice assessment. We talk about the suspect nature of +/- in a one-game sample size, but how does one explain Mobley’s -20?
I’d explain by saying it’s game 2 of a back to back and he’s out there maybe trying a bit too hard. Plus a lot of the +- diff was just insane shooting by the clippers. Mobes played OK, but was a little slow leading to fouls instead of blocks.
Tftc! I agree this one’s on JB (primary), Clippers defense (very tight and aggressive down the stretch), and just a bit on the Zebras.
Garland was way way off in the last 5 as was LeVert. Even saw Ice out there for an unnecessary minute – thats an easy upgrade to Dean Wade.
Or cedi
I ended up watching most of this game in a small pop-up window of one of my office screens (muted). Another small window next to it was the CtB thread. Multiple larger windows for work stuff, and in the background the work crew discussing work stuff with me. My boss is cool and all, but sitting there watching a full screen NBA game in the middle of a busy day would probably be taking advantage. Had it been the Detroit game I would have caught the replay. But the idea of missing the Clippers, maybe 9 straight and EG GIFfing… Read more »