Ten Things to Like About…Tristan Thompson
2012-09-20Admittedly, this was not as easy as Jon Leuer and Alonzo Gee. Expectations for a recent fourth draft pick obviously rise above waiver wire pickups and undrafted free agents. Cleveland is building a great supply of depth, but two players need to ascend to “star” status along Kyrie. As a high lottery selection, certainly hope resides that Tristan Thompson fits that bill. Let us skip TT’s rookie shortcomings for the time-being and start with a focus on ten likable traits.
- Much hand wringing ensued as Tristan plowed through the first third of last season making sub-40% on free throws. His touch improved every month though, rising to 62% for March and 63% over April.
- Barely legal drinking age, he is young enough to improve significantly.
- He possesses the work ethic and attitude necessary to reach his full potential.
- Of all NBA players, he finished with the sixth best offensive rebounding rate last season.
- In his 2011 – 2012 rookie awards, David Thorpe declared Thompson the most likely to break out this year. John Hollinger ranked TT third in his 2011 Draft Rater. That must be a good thing.
- He’s not Marcus Morris or Jan Vesely, two players often ranked above him pre-draft. In the two weeks before selection day, Morris decided he played small forward and proceeded to struggle mightily. I could not get excited about the idea of Vesely at #4.
- Tristan is Canadian, which reduces any worries about summer injuries while playing deep in the Olympics or World Championships.
- Of 143 forwards who played 30 or more games, he ranked 17th in blocked shots per minute.
- Explosive athleticism allows for sequences like this.
- His max vert reach is 12 feet. That’s really fricking high.
Mr. Thompson provides youth, explosiveness, and a willingness to improve. While some certainly carry higher hopes; I consider him most likely to peak as a high quality role player. Last season, for every strength his game harbored corresponding weakness. Alongside the shot blocking, he ranked 70th of forwards for defensive rebounding, 104th for taking charges, and 124th collecting steals. Three of those four outcomes always result in ending the opponent’s possession. The one where Tristan currently proves most apt is not one of those three. He finished 90th of the 143 forwards for per minute foul frequency, and Cleveland’s defense allowed 3.5 points more per 100 possessions when he played (certainly not helped as one of the only healthy players remaining in April). He needs to learn balance on defense, between disrupting shots and grabbing boards. Everything that can be learned from Anderson Varejao about pick-n-roll snuffing must be absorbed like a sponge.
For all the offensive rebounds, his effectiveness remained restrained in part due to poor finishing, as he ranked 116th of all forwards for field goal percentage at the rim. This barrage of “out of 143 forwards” data may prove as overkill, but at other locations, his field goal percentage sat at:
- 3 to 9 feet – 91st
- 10 to 15 feet – 119th
- 16 to 23 feet – 140th
- Free throws – 134th
- His assist rate nearly hit bottom at 140th, with assist-to-turnover ratio at 142nd.
Even his true shooting percentage over March and April (47.6%), when he peaked as a rookie, placed him 122nd. I am not saying that Tristan can not reach whatever level he aspires to…but he has a ways to go. On offense, he needs to keep the ball high when in the paint. Obviously a fifteen-footer and consistent arc on his freebies would prove helpful. An explosive face-up move from both elbows seems most readily available as an offensive skill, but some post / countermoves also could reside on his wish-list.
This season serves as an important glimpse of TT’s ability to either reach elite levels or towards settling into valuable-rotation-player status. I will definitely be rooting for the former.
Kevin, you can assume it’s not directed towards you unless I actually name you. I was talking about the guy who, at the time of my response, was the last guy to comment, KyrieSwIrving. But just because he is the only one to say so in this thread, MANY fans on here and Realcavsfans have written TT off as a bust in the very recent past. That is what I was referring to and I’m sure you’re aware of that fact as much as I am. That’s all… Btw, should I not vehemently disagree with people on here? It seems… Read more »
Kj, Feel free to vehemently disagree with people, just make it clear who with. I was not uncomfortable with your comment, but merely confused. Your comment starts addressed to plural “you guys”, but then I look through the comments and can’t come up with you the other guys are. Maybe address the commenter you are lambasting next time. On a side note, I’m not sure exactly what our rules are in the comments (as it relates to ‘toning it down’). Speaking for myself, I prefer to see minimal swear words and no personal attacks. Criticizing John krolik for instance is… Read more »
Good god, have you guys watched the NBA before? How many times do you have to be reminded of that ol’ (true) cliche that big men take longer to develop?? I’m astounded how many people like to write off TT based on his rookie year!! Asinine!!!
Btw, the only thing I will mention that I did not see mentioned is that TT can beat most every guy guarding him with his first step quickness. A HUGE weapon that’s feel many our sleeping on…
David,
I agree that Tristan foremost improvement goals should be defensive. He does need to add a 15 footer though, in order to maximize his ability to use the quick first step that Kj refers to.
Kj,
sometimes I am not sure who you are talking to. I count one person in these comments that has remotely written TT off (unless you think forecasting him as a top 100 player is writing him off). The overwhelming sentiment is “young, raw, needs to (and should) improve”.
“big men take longer to develop” is kind of an underlying tone of many of the comments ( or so it seems to me).
Defense is usually a pretty difficult thing for young players to learn. Tristan has every tool you would want to become an elite defender of the 4 position. Did he know where he was supposed to be last season very often? No. But Texas isn’t exactly known as a place that develops its talent very well, and there was no training camp or contact with teams and their players until December. I don’t really care about Tristan working on his midrange game. I just want him to be a defensive force. His ceiling, for me, is an outstanding defender, blocker… Read more »
As much as I hope Tristan does well and improves, everyone penciling him in a legit rotation player, not even a good starter, might be kidding themselves. The kid improved but is still bad at free throws, pretty bad at defense outside of blocks (which are a bit overrated), pretty bad at finishing, pretty bad at passing, pretty bad at dribbling, and pretty bad at shooting. The only thing the kid does at an elite level is offensive boards, which are certainly valueable, but when that’s the only thing you do well, and you’re decent at blocks, and everything else… Read more »
As for offense, Tristan seems to have two very unique moves: running half hooks to either arm: from about 4-9 feet. These moves are strange because they seem like really advanced moves for a player so raw. Part of the intriguing thing about Tristan from an offensive standpoint is his remarkable dexterity with both hands. Players with this ability are rare, and at his size, LeBron, Kukoc, and Boozer are two of the only players I remember having this ambidextrous deftness at so young an age. He doesn’t seem to get to these moves off the backdown as much as… Read more »
Yeah, it’s pretty obvious here that the two things Tristan needs to work on above all others are: finishing and defensive rebounding. Like you said, “He needs to learn balance on defense, between disrupting shots and grabbing boards.” A big thing that might help him is drills on when to help on D and when to not help, and position for a D board. He tries so hard to block shots that he gets himself out of position, which leads to layups for his man and easy O-Boards. The guy he should be emulating is NOT Serge Ibaka, who’s not… Read more »
“Tristan is Canadian, which reduces any worries about summer injuries while playing deep in the Olympics or World Championships.”
When this even pops up on the ten best things to like about any player, I have to giggle.
Give this team an all-star small forward and they’ll be contending for the championship within a year or two. And the Cavs have the trade assets (read: draft picks) to pull off that sort of trade.
Something that is NEVER mentioned is that TT was almost never on the court with Kyrie, which would have vastly improved his wide-open dunk percentage.
Good point, Tom, but ideally Tristan develops the skills necessary to help carry the team even when Kyrie sits. Ctown27, You’re welcome? The Blog will be back in full force soon. John has gone to law school and basically retired from Cavs:the Blogging. Colin finished grad school, and while he’s enjoyed a summer of downtime and working on other projects, he will be back and firing on all cylinders next week. Mallory will start churning out podcasts, with Dani scouring the interwebs for links. I think another new face will be on board soon, too. It will be a fun… Read more »
Can we please call this site Cavs the blog by Kevin?? Krolik is a LeBron nuthugger who’s thankfully never here and everyone else is 12 and doesn’t know basketball.
Kevin you’re the man, thanks for writing
i see him peaking between the 40-60 best players in the league. if Waiters can get to 30th or so and we can add another top player via trade or free agency he could be a really good 4/5 best player on the team. if we are relying on him becoming our third best player, that might not be good.
David, Thanks for stopping by. It would be great if Tristan could reach top 60 NBA player. ESPN’s ongoing rankings put Ibaka at 41st. David Lee was 60th. I don’t know if Tristan gets to that level. If I had to make a best guess, I see him typically being a top 100 NBA player with maybe a couple of seasons better than that. Nick Collison, Brandon Bass, Emeka Okafor fall in that range (according to ESPN’s rankings). Like you, I’m hoping for big things from Waiters. We’ll see how that goes. I also agree with you that the Cavs… Read more »
Tyrus Thomas sucks, I hope he gets better then that or we need to get a better 4 for the future.
I’m actually more excited to see Thompson’s growth than Irving’s this season. Kyrie will get better, but he’s probably much closer to his ceiling already. The words out of the organization that TT has come the farthest since last season are encouraging. I see him as become a Tyrus Thomas with the work ethic to actually hit his potential.