Cavs 98 – Jazz 109
2013-01-19Cavs close out the West coast trip with a pretty methodical loss to the Utah Jazz. As it often happens, I try to live-blog these games and invariably lose steam. Really wasn’t ever in the balance after mid-way through the 3rd quarter.
Pre-Game – Utah coming off 5 days rest, the Cavs 3. Should be some high-level basketball. C.J. Miles back in Utah for the first time after playing there for 7 years. Strange that C.J. Miles is a 7-and-a-half year veteran and he’s only 25. Also strange is that he was listed as a point guard his first season in the NBA. Would have liked to see Mo Williams playing tonight – always liked Mo. He had some very positive things to say about Dan Gilbert and the Cavs organization in an interview with FSN Ohio. He’s recovering from an injury to his finger. I think he makes the Jazz a sleeper team to be reckoned with in the West.
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1st Quarter Overview: Cavs started out hot with a variety of different scoring looks. Quickly out of a timeout, the Jazz came back led by Randy Foye. C.J. Miles and Tristan Thompson both had nice 1st quarters and were relatively quiet the rest of the night. The Cavs went cold near the end of the quarter and only scored 5 points in the last 5 minutes. At the end of 1, Jazz had a 26-23 lead. It didn’t feel so bad as most of the Jazz’s shots were long 2s and 3s – they were just making them. The Cavs weren’t getting exposed on D although they did give up a few offensive rebounds which lead to second chance points.
1st Quarter Live-blog Notes:
– Tristan sets pick – Kyrie decides to pass to Tristan who really didn’t roll so much as clear. This with less than 3 seconds left on the shot clock. Tristan left chasing down a bad pass and 24 sec violation. Kyrie doesn’t always have the best clock awareness.
– Zeller cans his second deep jumper, now 2 of 3 from outside 15 feet. Something he hasn’t done this year and needs to refine as his career progresses.
– TT fakes a screen and rolls – gets a touch pass and flips one in from the baseline.
– Cavs letting the Jazz hit the offensive boards.
– Cavs running an offense with Walton and Waiters in. On defense, Jazz stroking from outside.
– Waiters with a disgusting crossover – but gets blocked at the rim.
– Kyrie/Walton PnR. Walton buries 3. Jazz announcer: “are you kidding me” x3
– Cavs end quarter with a wimper – poor execution.
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2nd Quarter Overview: The Cavs came out aggressive in the 2nd thanks to Dion Waiters. He started the quarter off right with a VICIOUS dunk and it really seemed to light a fire under him. He just continually attacked from that point onward. Many times as he surveyed the defense, I wholly expected him to fire a long 2 or do some worthless through the legs dribbling and take a fadeaway. And yet, in the same situations that I’ve seen him settle for those shots, he just kept attacking the basket. He wasn’t especially successful finishing, but he was drawing fouls like Finals Wade ’06 only with Reg Season Waiters ’13 referees. (A convoluted way of saying: no phantom fouls here.) At the other end the Jazz began punishing the Cavs inside. Well, maybe more specifically, the Jazz bigs punished the Cavs, but it wasn’t always from inside. Regular reader/commenter/Jonas-hater extraordinaire Rich was lamenting the DeMarre Caroll long 2s that were falling in the 2nd quarter. Unlike the first quarter featuring a heavy dose of Randy Foye and Jamaal Tinsley, this quarter featured nothing but bigs: Favors, Carroll, Kanter, Millsap, Jefferson. They all scored on multiple possessions and the Cavs more or less played the Jazz to a stalemate. Kyrie Irving couldn’t find the net and Tristan Thompson had less success trying to overpower his foes down low. C.J. Miles cooled down quicker than lead solder, and the Cavs went into the half trailing 53-48.
2nd Quarter Live-blog Notes:
Waiters with a MONSTER jam. Goes right back on the attack on next possession. Good sign.
Waiters draws 2 fouls in a matter of seconds. Brings Cavs back within 5.
Waiters breakaway dunk. Been all Dion Waiters this quarter.
3J Miles with a nice pull.
Waiters goes right back to the rack!
Out of timeout – Cavs back to back turnovers lead to runouts. Suddenly Cavs down 7.
Away from ball foul gives Livingston 2 FT (Thanks, Dion!)
Kyrie block, Kyrie 3. Tie game.
Tristan tried to out-muscle Millsap – didn’t work out.
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3rd Quarter Overview: The Cavs effectively lost the game in the first part of the 3rd quarter. They came out lackadaisical, and Jamaal Tinsley decided he’d rather take it right to Kyrie Irving rather than retire. The Cavs almost exclusively took deep jumpers to start the 3rd, and Utah was obliged to push the tempo on the long rebounds leading to a few passes and a wide open shot as the Cavs scrambled to get set. The low point of the game came with about 5 minutes to play in the 3rd. Kyrie drove in for a layup and was blocked by Paul Millsap. Instead of sprinting back he decided to have a debate with the nearest referee while Jamaal Tinsley streaked up court, went behind his back, and then threw a dart into the right corner where Marvin Williams calmly drained a 3, putting the Jazz up 15. Fortunately, Dion Waiters picked up right where he left off in the 2nd quarter. He was RELENTLESS attacking the basket tonight. On multiple occasions he was in a situation where he’d normally just fire away an off-balance 2 – and he refused. He scored or made plays that directly lead to 7 straight points. And they were all from slick drives to the basket. Shaun Livingston had 2 free throw attempts to cut the Cavs deficit to 10 with about a minute and a half remaining. He made 1, and the Jazz scored 5 quick points to finish the quarter. The game effectively seemed over as the Cavs could not get it below double digits.
3rd Quarter Live-Blog Notes:
Cavs sluggish to start 3rd. Quickly down 10.
Cavs collapsing in the paint leading to open 3s for Foye. Gotta know the situation. Tristan usually doesn’t need help.
Low energy to start the 3rd for the Cavs at both ends. Misses leading to fast offense for Jazz.
Kyrie having a very poor quarter. Whining for fouls, not getting back, missing shots.
Dion comes in and starts attacking the basket. Repeatedly. Unfortunately, Cavs can’t get a stop.
Jazz just methodically killing the Cavs. Ball goes down low, Cavs double, kick out for 3. Cavs miss, Jamaal Tinsley pushes tempo, Cavs transition D very poor – Jazz score.
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The FINAL QUARTER Overview:
Dion broke his streak of attacking the basket very late in the 3rd and started off the fourth firing away again. It’s really Jekyll and Hyde with him sometimes. The Cavs had a 16 point deficit to start the third so it’s not exactly something you chip away at. The Cavs came out aggressive, but they had trouble getting stops when they really needed them. With 7:22 left in the game, Enes Kanter checked in for the Jazz (the Jazz have quite an ensemble of big men) and it was pretty much Enes making sure the game never hung in the balance. And the Cavs never cut it to single digits. But you can’t fault Dion Waiters for not trying. After getting 3 or 4 bad shots out of his system, he went right back to attacking. He scored 8 points quickly, including a much-needed 3 to cut the Jazz lead to 11. Here’s what happened next:
4:05 | 89-100 | Derrick Favors misses 8-foot two point shot | |
4:03 | 89-100 | Enes Kanter offensive rebound | |
4:01 | 89-102 | Enes Kanter makes layup | |
3:45 | 89-102 | Gordon Hayward shooting foul (Dion Waiters draws the foul) | |
3:45 | Dion Waiters makes free throw 1 of 2 | 90-102 | |
3:45 | Dion Waiters makes free throw 2 of 2 | 91-102 | |
3:30 | 91-102 | Derrick Favors misses two point shot | |
3:28 | 91-102 | DeMarre Carroll offensive rebound | |
3:17 | 91-102 | Derrick Favors misses 6-foot jumper | |
3:16 | 91-102 | DeMarre Carroll offensive rebound | |
3:08 | 91-104 | Enes Kanter makes two point shot (Gordon Hayward assists) |
It was the final nail in the coffin. And it was pretty much a microcosm of the entire game. Anytime the Cavs would start looking like a mild threat, the Jazz would do whatever they needed to do to push ahead. Kanter was really beating up Zeller in the post in the 4th quarter. He may have knocked Tyler in the face and stolen a rebound, or it might have been a superflop – I couldn’t tell, but Kanter looked bigger/faster/stronger and he just wanted it more in the 4th. After the Kanter bucket I declared the game over and hoped for a Leuer sighting. But wouldn’t you know it, TT fumbled a pass, recovered, and made a nice move for an and-1 and he hit the free throw. Overcoming a 10 point deficit with a little over 2 minutes is tough, but it’s not clear-your-benches tough. Few stops, few buckets, two possession game with under a minute? Why not? Here’s what happened next.
2:39 | Tristan Thompson makes free throw 1 of 1 | 94-104 | |
2:16 | 94-104 | Derrick Favors misses 17-foot jumper | |
2:15 | 94-104 | Earl Watson offensive rebound | |
2:00 | 94-104 | DeMarre Carroll misses 23-foot jumper | |
1:58 | 94-104 | Gordon Hayward offensive rebound | |
1:45 | 94-106 | Gordon Hayward makes jumper (Enes Kanter assists) |
Eerily familiar. And that was the ballgame. The Jazz are a better team, they are a bigger team (especially with Varejao missing) and they exposed the Cavaliers defensive rebounding fundamentals tonight (contesting paint shots without putting a body on people afterwards). Six Jazz players scored in double figures. If you didn’t see any of the game, here are the 3 stats that would tell a lot of the tale:
Fast Break Points: Jazz 21, Cavs 5
Points in the Paint: Jazz 46, Cavs 36
FG%: Jazz 50%, Cavs 41%
Credit the Cavs (mostly Dion) for attacking tonight. They shot 30 free throws to Utah’s 17. Unfortunately Cavs fans can’t bask in the warmth of obvious referee bias tonight. Dion definitely bounced back from his last outing and in some ways tonight was his most impressive game (at least to me) because of his decision making. With the exception of a few bad shots, he used his elite 1st step to get into the teeth of the defense where he looked to draw contact. He hit his free throws as well. 23 points on 14 shots is a very nice game.
Tyler Zeller did some nice things offensively, but his team low -17 (despite a robust statline) was a function of the Jazz bigs having their way with him. Many of the Jazz offensive boards came because he did not put a body on people. It’s alarming how spaced out he seems when the shots go up. Hopefully, this is just a rookie thing.
Alonzo Gee is the hardest person for me to evaluate. Expectations are admittedly low for him, yet he often seems to kill a mini-rally with a poor turnover or bad shot. I wish I could say there is an identifiable thing that Alonzo does exceptionally well that he could leverage to add value. He does have quick hands and forces some turnovers, and he occasionally plays good man defense on wing players. Every now and then he’ll hit some shots off the dribble or make a spot up 3. But it’s hard to really count on it and the Cavs do not look for him when the game is in the balance. He had a poor night tonight.
Luke Walton had another solid game (calm down). Luke is limited athletically and he’s not a great shooter, but the offense always looks better when he’s playing. He can be frustrating because his bad is very bad looking (Eric Snow was this way) but he moves well without the ball, he sets and receives picks very well and he has very good court vision. If he could have more “3-5 from the field” games, like tonight, I think Cavs fans would come to appreciate him.
C.J. Miles looked like he was going to have one of his crazy good games, and then he barely grazed the rim on a few open shots and became ordinary.
Tristan Thompson started off strong, and he showed off some nice touch around the hoop even when he didn’t have great position. He had another double-double but it was a bit of a quiet night for him. He didn’t play poorly by any means, but his size, strength, and rebounding prowess were somewhat neutralized by the Jazz ensemble of bigs. The Jazz bigs took him seriously on offense and denied him good position all night.
Jon Leuer checked in and missed a bunny. Somewhere, Kevin Hetrick is drinking.
Kyrie Irving had 9 assists and I’m struggling to remember more than 2. I’ve studied a few things about Kyrie the last few weeks – most notably, how he uses picks. If you want the short version, he doesn’t use them well at all. It’s partially a function of his reliance on shiftiness and crossovers, but it is difficult for the Cavs bigs to set screens for him. He’s not patient enough to wait for them, he rarely even uses them, and he and his screener have poor chemistry. Kyrie treats many screens like an option. You can see the confusion in the body language of the screener who often doesn’t know whether to roll, pop, or just clear out. Sometimes Kyrie ends up dribbling against a double team in a corner because he attracted the attention of the screener’s defender without any openings created by an actual screen (and this is because Kyrie doesn’t actually use the pick to create separation). This lack of chemistry/patience is even more noticeable when you watch other Cavaliers like Livingston and Waiters receive a pick. TT, Zeller, and Walton don’t seem like a fish flapping out of water when they set screens for other guys. This is something the Cavs, specifically Kyrie, need to iron out. It’s OK to slip screens once in a while, but there really isn’t much point having a screener bring an extra defender if the screen isn’t going to create any advantage at all.
In a few weeks we won’t remember this game. I’m hoping that right now Byron Scott is making a big stinking deal about how awesome Dion Waiters played tonight. For 85% of the night, it almost seemed like Dion had a self-imposed jumper ban. The coaches need to reinforce this. For Dion to reach his potential, he has to attack like he did tonight.
Well, Beal went 1-7 tonight for 2 points…will that do?
Thanks, bud. We’ll see eye to eye now. Unless he goes 1-9 on Js again.
Welcome Mallory. As always, better late then never…
The beer was Damnation Definitely good, but certainly not as good as Pliny.
I’ve got some Hopslam coming my way this week. Incredibly excited.
Cory Pliny was amazing. I randomly hung out with some beer friends that night, and happened upon Pliny, Westy, a Stone 09/09/09, and some crazy imperial stout thing by Sierra Nevada from 2009. Also another Russian River Belgian ale (name escapes me)
All in all, Friday was an absurd night. But then again I’ve been supplying everyone with a lot of Surly for the past few weeks (thanks to my girlfriend) so it was long overdue.
To be honest, I’d still take Heady Topper over Pliny any day
KJ, Cols, and the rest: THIS was what I’ve been waiting to see. I could not be happier with that I witnessed from Waiters the other night The man was possessed, and not with the gods of a good shooting night. No, he was possessed with the ability to play to his strengths. If we see this night in and night out, I will be a very very very happy camper.
Kyrie’s complete stagnation is a big concern. He does nothing significantly better than last year, outside of maybe only getting torched on 70% of pick and rolls instead of 95%. His handle is awesome, but not to the point that he should not worry about passing or setting up teammates. If I handled the ball as much as kyrie I could get 4-5 assists per game, he’s at what, 5 and a half? Not good. The kid’s shot is pure, but its already so good that its unreasonable to expect large improvement there. He needs to start improving his weaknesses.… Read more »
Danny Dan Gilbert just bought another casino. He can afford to feed Al Jefferson scrimp scampi three meals a day and hire a nanny to burp all his kids. Not totally sure if I’d want Jefferson long term. If a guy has never won anything as a prime time player he isn’t worth a near max deal. Period. If you’re gonna commit money in free agency you had better be right. It’s not the draft. Being wrong in free agency or a contract extension is a sin much worse than missing on a draft pick. It’s shackles and chains. I’d… Read more »
Now Nate, can I ask how many times you’ve actuall seen Demarre Carroll play anywhere close to what you saw against the Cavs? I mean the guy is averaging like 5 points on less than 20 minutes a game. Let’s slow down a tad.
And Foye…eh. I’ve watched enough Foye to know that he, like Boobie, can’t be trusted to run an offense as the back-up PG and he takes to many bad shots considering his role on the team.
But, I’d take him over a good portion of the guys currently on the roster (Hello, Jon Leuer).
@ Nate totally agree except I think we can definetly afford to sign Al Jefferson. Add Jefferson and Shabazz and we would have the makings of the best offensive team in the league. Kyrie is absolutely abyssmal on defense. So bad.
Argh. That game stunk. Austin Carr’s right. They’re not pushing the pace at all. Kyrie slow walked the ball up all game, also he was so hit or miss on defense. You see the Jazz run that rub screen off the high post twice in 2 minutes? Kyrie got caught on it twice. When you give up 11 off of 5/7 shooting to Jamaal Tinsley, that’s not good. Kyrie Irving ground shipped this game in, either that or Utah put Ambien in the Gatorade. Derrick Favors made Luke Walton look like Luke Walton. I was watching that game for the… Read more »
Fatigue? No way. We’re 30 games in.
Just to be on the safe side, I want to emphasize that I was talking about the team, not the individual players. Tristan’s and Dion’s good games have not been a surprise to me because I’ve believed in them from the beginning. I also think that Zeller is quite good but has more ups and downs. It is the team play that I miss. The starting lineup is too young and inexperienced. They are put into a situation in which they need to constantly care about their personal stats before anything else because they are under the magnifying glass as… Read more »
Interesting to note that Dion has a really heavily attacking game on 3 days rest then keeps it up til the 4th when he has a slight stumble before regaining the attacking form. I wonder how many of his bad shots are simply due to fatigue. Maybe it’s that he wasn’t quite in basketball shape? That was and has been part of the problem for kyrie’s defense too…too spent from the offense. We need to get them on whatever training regime Tristan did…
Anyone at ctb want to do an analysis of dion’s fouls/attacking based on nights of rest/game frequency?
Mallory how was that Pliny the Elder? I still remember where I was the first time I had it. Tony’s Darts Away in Burbank. Best IPA I had ever had. I’m hoping to make it to the Russian River Brewery for Pliny the Younger this year. A true and justly Mancatino San Fran.
PS St Dub is the man. Another hit by Grant.
Decent analysis mate, I read it with pleasure.
I love the details you mentioned especially about PG Kyrie Irving’s playing style because I’m a regular better on NBA player performances, so i must admit that’s the part I’ve been enlightened most.
Keep up the good work! Cheers!!!
I have a cold, so I didn’t follow up Leuer’s stint with a drink.
I’m going to blame the Cavs for his struggles, not Jonny-boy. Did you know he had the fourth-best defensive rebound rate in the Big Ten his senior year? Last year, in the NBA, his rate was better than Tyler Hansbrough, Nick Collison, and Ryan Anderson?
Anyways, definitely an encouraging game from Waiters. He was relentless and got some calls because of it. Other than the three iso-misses in the last ten seconds of the 1st and 3rd quarters, his efficiency was great.
I mean the last 5 games have been the most uplifting games I’ve seen from thsi team in a while. You can legimately see that rebuild and how it was supposed to look taking shape. Waiters playing much better. Thompson looking like a monster, and Zeller finding his way as he’s thrown into the fire. No, they can’t win many games. But who can when Luke Walton is your back-up “big” and Alonzo Gee is your starting 3 man? But really, all we should care about at this point is what the 4 young guys are doing. And they are,… Read more »
If you can’t see progress in Thompson and Waiters games, you aren’t watching.
It’s hard to say this, but despite of the rebuilding, this team looks doomed. It is just not going anywhere. I can’t see any progress in their game. Another lottery pick will at best add 3-4 wins. Except for cap space the team doesn’t seem to have any other assets left. A good player will not come to fill that space, because he has other options. The experiment will hit the dead end.
Watched this game with my dad tonight, his thoughts: 1. Laughing heartily when Carr said gee was one of the best wing defenders in the league. 2. That Irving boy needs to pass more, he’s a point guard no one will fault him for trying to get people involved, its not like you’ve won a lot of games anyways. 3. Hey look number 3 isn’t chucking up stupid shots this game like that last one we watched. 4. Where did Thompson come from, he couldn’t do that last week. 5. There is Luke Walton’s signature one great offensive play per… Read more »
It’s time the Cavs started running some clear outs for Thompson. Not many. But he showed multiple times tonight that if you just gave him the ball, he could go get a bucket. I’d like to see him get more than 2 or 3 chances a game like that. And this was the perfect game to showcase how our lack of depth, at any position really, screws us. Thompson and Zeller eventually did wear down, because Utah has 4 solid bigs they can throw at you, while Thompson and Zeller are the ONLY bigs on this roster that can play… Read more »
I really feel that no one on the planet was crushed harder by LeDecision than Mo Williams.
Dion averaging 4.4 free throw attempts since the move to the bench
LOved how Dion attacked the rim. I was hoping his agressiveness would rub off on the rest of the team! I get excited to think of him and Andy playing again together and attacking. Gee use to be great at this and he seems reluctant to drive to the hole. He has the size so I don’t understand his hesitation. You’re right about Kyrie not being patient. It was good to see he did have 9 assists. It has been frustrating to see the many mistakes Zellar does and he seems to get a free pass compared to Dion. People… Read more »
Good review, Pestak. I would also mention that every single one of Dion’s dimes were memorable, even though he only had three, as that all lead to easy buckets. I think this is the first game this season where the refs treated Dion like an actual NBA guard. I think we see what happens when that is the case. Gee is sooooo bad. I mean, I really think at this point he needs to go to the bench and we start Miles in his spot and Dion at the SG. Gee is better off the bench, no question. Kanter was… Read more »
Richard – years ago b4 HD cable the blue jackets were the bane of my existence! I feel your pain. Hopefully this doesn’t happen to you again.
Thank you for this excellent and in depth recap. My provider only carries one FSN network and with the CBJ debuting tonight I was forced to miss my first Cavs game of the season. No alternate channel and unfortunately no tape delay either. Hopefully it won’t happen again.