Recap: Kings 124, Cavaliers 80 (Or, EVENT HORIZON).
2014-01-12The game clock wasn’t functioning for the first four seconds of this afternoon’s game. The refs quickly stopped the game and basically started over from scratch, running the elapsed time off the clock. Maybe, in the alternate universe where that Kings possession continues uninterrupted, the Cavs play coherent basketball and push hard for longer than a quarter and change. Maybe the stoppage dammed their energy and they were unable to get it flowing again. Maybe the team was swapped out for very convincing lookalikes in the first quarter when my TV died for five minutes, because Cleveland was run out of the worst gym in the NBA by one of the worst teams in the NBA.
It wasn’t a blowout from the jump. Luol Deng scored a quick five points, and Irving and Varejao took advantage of his spacing capabilities and moved the ball around more than Cavs fans have been used to. This lasted the duration that the starters played, and the bench pressed on in this vein. Dion Waiters found Tyler Zeller for three nice dunks, two of which came off fast breaks. However, the defense struggled mightily with the Kings physical advantages. Isaiah Thomas was too fast for Kyrie, DeMarcus Cousins was too big for everyone, and Rudy Gay was too athletic for Deng. The Kings and Cavs are oddly symmetrical; point guards that bookended the 2011 draft, streak shooters at the two, athletic small forwards who attain a facsimile of completeness, solid if situationally underachieving power forwards and versatile, skilled centers.
Anyway, after C.J. Miles hit a halfcourt shot through a double team to end the first quarter, the Cavs facade started to chip off. Jimmer Fredette shook Jarrett Jack off of him for two threes that gave the Kings a seven point lead, the first real run of the game. The Cavs kept it fairly close, but the Kings athleticism was too much to contain. Led by Cousins, Thomas, Gay, Derrick Williams and Ben McLemore, the Kings blocked shots, clogged lanes, ran, rebounded and dunked their way to a 59-50 halftime lead. Kyrie Irving was 1-7 with two points, and the offense was mostly high post stuff and long, contested twos. He ended the half with two missed free throws, a callback to one of the meetings between Sacramento and Cleveland last year, when he iced the game with two made free throws at the end. Parallel timelines, I’m telling you.
The second half Cavs came out and played like Mike Brown had finished telling them “You get basketball points by SCORING, not PASSING!” and dribbled around and shot aimlessly for a while. Kyrie made a quick steal and then an assist to put the game within 12 with seven minutes left in the third, at which point I wrote ‘Momentum shift???’ in my notes. There was one of those, but it was a pure unraveling on the Cavs’ part. They managed three points for the rest of the quarter, while the Kings scored 19. Sacramento worked through DeMarcus Cousins and Rudy Gay on offense, who overpowered their defenders routinely. The Kings clearly smelled blood and kept their starters in while the Cavs turned towards their bench. The Cavs were powerless on defense and sludgy on offense. The Kings ranked 28th in the league in defensive rating before this game, but flummoxed Cleveland with their activity and work rate. Of course, the Cavs flummoxed themselves with an array of straight-faced contested jumpers and lazy passes. You could tell the team had visibly given up as Isaiah Thomas drove into the lane and finished over three half-jumping Cavs defenders to dot a 14-0 burst.
The Kings started the fourth quarter with a quick salvo that signaled the immediate onset of garbage time. They scored 15 points in less than three minutes with all threes or and-ones and the Cavs were cooked. Both benches were emptied, and Anthony Bennett looked about the same as he has all year. Travis Outlaw even got to spike one of Big Daddy Canada’s tries. The crowd got free tacos and Cavs fans got free DVR space.
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– The Cavs let Sacramento shoot 51.3% and 50% from three. The Kings are nominally one of the worst three-point shooting teams in the NBA.
– The Kings broadcast team continually focused on the Isaiah Thomas – Kyrie Irving matchup, which has some intrigue after the widespread offseason discussion about their relative skill levels. If you hadn’t watched either before, or known about Kyrie’s all-star nod, you would definitely have agreed with them. Thomas was smooth and lethal from everywhere on the court and Kyrie didn’t do anything except show up.
– Sleep Train Arena does a ‘Bongo Cam’ (like a kiss cam but with invisible bongos. I’m sure they aren’t the only arena), which provided the only humor of the day after watching the Cavs sputter and sleep their way through the game.
– Tristan Thompson struggled when matched up against stronger players, especially when he tried to do his signature ‘drive to the right and half hook’ move. DeMarcus Cousins, who has 40 pounds on TT, easily pushed him away as he moved laterally, which turned six-footers into nine-footers.
– Austin Carr always insists the Cavs should run more, an assertion which is somewhat off the mark, since running is only effective if you have guards who finish well at the rim, which the Cavs don’t. However, the bench unit maybe should explore this tactic. They looked at their best when they were on the break, and that unit doesn’t have anyone who likes to pass besides a hobbled Jarrett Jack. The ball would at least stick less if the team tried to press rather than rely on substandard creators.
– It seemed like nice timing for Luol Deng to start his Cavs tenure by visiting the worst two teams in the west, but then today happened.
– DeMarcus Cousins looks like a legit all-star, and Rudy Gay is finally showing he can play efficiently. The Kings are a fun team.
Seriously Kyrie has regressed or stayed the same each season except for turnovers. MCW is all upside and the dude can actually pass. If Chris Grant actually wants to create Mike Brown’s dream team of hustle and D guys he makes this move right before being fired and everyone looks back and goes awww that was sweet and he gets a job in Milwaukee then he does his rebuild during 3 years of actually good drafts and we then lose to his team in the playoffs over and over because we live in Cleveland.
I don’t think anyone will work harder than TT does to prove he wasn’t a bad pick. That guy has completely reinvented himself. I hate Jarrett Jack’s game I stewed in it all day. Even when he has good nights its always on shots he should not be taking. He dribbles down and pulls up a midrange shot more than Dion and Kyrie combined, seriously. Austin Carr “that’s Jacks game right there” yeah Austin well his game is stupid, inefficient and infuriating, this isn’t the 80’s you only take midrange shots once or twice a game as a guard, and… Read more »
On another note, I’ve been Bennett’s biggest supporter. In fact, you can all blame me for calling Chris Grant the night before the draft and convincing him to draft Bennett. I believed and repeatedly said that, if he had Charles Barkley’s intensity he could be another Charles Barkley. Unfortunately, nobody in the NBA has a demeanor more opposite of Barkley than Bennett. And while on occasion he does something that gives you a peek at his potential – I don’t think he has the heart to be a good one. He is still very young. I thought Zeller was a… Read more »
Blowouts are so common in today’s NBA – you just can’t let a bad night bother you. Everybody’s been getting blown out. It’s a strange phenomenon . . . but the fact that it seems to have become commonplace makes Cav blowouts more tolerable.
It’s the nights when they don’t seem to play with effort that bother me.
KJ – If you read my posts I have always been a Dion supporter. That doesn’t mean that I’ve never criticized him. I really expected him to take the bull by the horns when Kyrie was out a few games. He just needs to continue to be more consistent. All young players do. I think we bloggers over react to individual games. Everybody is young. We need to let the season play out before we make any more changes. Recently, they really have had stretches where they moved the ball and after a basket I’d exclaim, “That’s what I’m talkin’… Read more »
The difference between Lloyd and MSB is that he actually works as a beat reporter. Unlike MSB who puts out PR pieces for the Cavs like her fluff piece on Alonzo Gee and his amazing (hyperbole) defense.
So what if Lloyd thinks Dion will get traded. He clearly stated this as his opinion not as actual fact. And he made it clear it was his opinion, probably based on his interactions with the team.
I love watching Kyrie when he is on, but I, and most GMs would trade him in a heartbeat for this year’s number 1. Kyrie isn’t getting much better. He isn’t an athlete that needs to improve his skills. He is an extremely skilled player with non elite athleticism. His improvements will come through the mental game, but not the usual skill refinement like most NBA superstars. His marketability would be the only real reason not to trade him for the top pick. Again, I think Kyrie is an immense talent with probably the best handle in the league when… Read more »
Sorry, should have read “phenomenon…”
Believe what ya want. I made valid points and if you keep going down this road with Kyrie it will be like LBJ all over again with arguably worse results.
What baffles me and makes me into this de facto defender of the Dion pick, is that despite his good play in big wins the two games previous, AS SOON AS THEY LOSE AGAIN, all of sudden it’s “Dion is a problem.” How the blazes does that make any sense? Nate, Underdog, Hot Sauce, help me understand this phenomena!
Btw, one could say LLoyd is the trolling one here.
I believe Lloyd. He’s a good reporter. Not surprised KJ is upset… It’s the norm for KJ to foam at the mouth at anyone who dares criticize Waiters. At this point it’s borderline trolling.
Says who? Lloyd? The same guy who claimed at the beginning of the year that he thought Dion would be moved even though he admitted no one told him that? So is it not reasonable to question why after watching Kyrie play awful D and shoot even worse Lloyd writes about Dion? That doesn’t strike you as odd? Esp since, as many of us on this blog have pointed out, Kyire is a serious pouter. As other writers for the Cavs say all the time, they don’t get access to the team much. Mary S. Boyer says they know far… Read more »
Kj, do you have team sources inside the locker room telling you that Dion’s teammates are not frustrated with him? Whether or not, it’s deserved…whether or not, others are just as culpable in the areas of pouting and giving up when things don’t go their way…that doesn’t change the fact that THE REALITY is that this is the current locker room dynamic. You are the biggest Dion Waiters apologist I know, but it doesn’t change the fact that other Cavs are fed up with him and that is not good for team chemistry at all.
Jack and Kyrie played some of the worst defense I have ever seen last night and Lloyd writes a hit piece on Dion??
First of Lloyd ALWAYS kills Waiters. ALWAYS. And for Lloyd to talk any shite about Dion’s defense when we have the Swinging Gate at PG is freakin rich. I watch Dion and his defense is certainly not an issue. And who are these “players?” Who are they to “grumble?” As even the Dion haters agree that Dion cares and tries hard. Oh and Nate, Dion had 3 assists (should had four as Zeller blew one) in the first 2 minutes of his entering the game. I don’t understand what you’re saying there… Other than Kyrie’s awful, awful defense, I am… Read more »
I put stock in “the Cavs duped us once again” theory. The Deng trade reignited the optimism that most of us had in the preseason. This game quickly brought us all back to the realization that Luol Deng will not be enough for the Cavs to even be an average NBA team.
Also, with the pouting and players being frustrated with each other (Lloyd article focused on Dion, but I was noticing some seriously bad body language from Jarrett Jack toward Tyler Zeller), I think this whole thing is perilously close to a complete tailspin.
@Nate-
I was just about to write the exact same response to Tom, but you beat me to it. I don’t see Dion hanging his head and start walking when he blows a layup or gets his pocket picked- that’s Kyrie. I’m not saying Dion doesn’t have his moments, but he gets dinged for it, and Kyrie gets a free pass.
There is absolutey double standard, and this completely looks like the Lebron coddling all over again. If I were Dion, I’d be ticked off too.
I put stock in the hangover theory. Though I don’t have any evidence of course. It’s funny because I don’t think Sacramento or Salt Lake City (their previous stop) are really known for their night life. But there’s always somewhere to get wasted.
@Nate- I read the article, and was about to write a similar response, but you beat me to it. I don’t see Dion hanging his head and walking when he misses a layup or gets his pocket picked; that’s Kyrie. I’m not saying that Dion doesn’t have his bad moments too….but he’s absolutely right that he gets singled out for bad play, but Kyrie gets a free pass. If I had a coach that treated me like that, I’d be ticked off too. It is ABSOLUTELY like the Lebron coddling all over again. This is an absolute trainwreck under Mike… Read more »
From Jason Lloyd When Waiters’ shot is falling, he can carry a team. When it’s not, he tends to shut down. He doesn’t defend, he gets careless with the ball… Players have quietly grumbled about Waiters’ act off and on all season, and those grumbles were growing louder Sunday night. As one player put it, stars can get away with the stuff Waiters pulls on occasion, but Waiters hasn’t even established himself yet in this league, let alone carved out star status. The thing about him is he’s not a bad guy. He’s not a locker room cancer or a… Read more »
@Tom interesting stuff. Last night seemed have little to do with Waiters though the game was over when he came in, in the 3rd and was close when he left in the 2nd.
Blip the thing about that article (I’m pretty it’s that one or I read a very simiiliar one) is even though Wiggins might not be Lebron or Durant or even Paul George doesn’t mean this draft isn’t a once in a decade draft. Embliid is my bet for #1. There is just no way that guy doesn’t turn into a many time all-star top 3 or 4 center. My guess is that in 4 years he’ll be challenging an againg Howard, and in their primes Drummond, Hibbert and Cousins for the best Center in the NBA. Parker may of cooled… Read more »
“Rudy Gay is to this team what Luol Deng is going to be for the Cavs.” –Austin Carr
Ummm, I surely hope not. But only the Cavs could make Rudy Gay look like an efficient offensive superstar.
We just lost by 44 points to the Kings. THE SACRAMENTO KINGS. A 44 point loss is a complete embarrassment no matter what. But, seriously, the Kings? I agree with the previous commenter who said the entire organization should be relegated to the D-League after that game.
I’m depressed.
Yeah, read that article, Underdog. I’d say that it’s too early to say anything like that. Remember that Melo’s and Wade’s stock in ’03 didn’t skyrocket till the tournament, and amen, Blip.
Still, the 2014 draft class absolutely murders the 2013 draft class.
Blurb from Hoopshype:
“Deep as this draft class is, its star quotient is another question. Setting aside comparisons to LeBron James and Durant, who are beyond anyone on the horizon, no one in this class is as highly regarded as No. 1 picks Anthony Davis (2012), Kyrie Irving (2011), John Wall (2010), Blake Griffin (2009) or Derrick Rose (2008). “If you called the Pelicans, the Cavs or any of those teams and offered this year’s first pick for their guy, they’d fall over laughing,” says a Western Conference personnel guy.”
Another question, why does George Karl still not have a job?
The game was depressing on so many levels. In the first 15-20 minutes, the Cavs actually ran some beautiful PnRs, and great ball movement in general. The game started to unwind when Jimmer lit up Jack like the Griswald house at christmas. I agree with the assessment of the forced shots….this team completely fails to recognize who the hot player is, and how to take advantage of it- AND THAT INCLUDES THE COACH. CJ basically didn’t touch the ball the entire first quarter; the first time it landed in his hands, he drained a 25-foot pull up on the fast… Read more »
Jason Lloyd had some strong remarks about Waiters: http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/kings-124-cavs-80-jason-lloyd-s-final-thoughts-1.458940
Can someone grab one of them they are all pretty much the same edited gradually to try and get the all great and powerful comment monster to accept them as tribute.
You guys remember how we all say that Rudy Gay is essentially the best of the worst type of players in basketball? Well tonight was one of those nights that make people just say oh wow he’s really good when in fact he still took about 5 or 6 shots that he should have missed. We made like no free-throws. Anyone else getting really tired of refs calling some of the most bulls*it fouls on Tyler Zeller? Kyrie wasn’t ever going to be able to guard Thomas, that was a stupid assignment, he should have been able to outscore him… Read more »
None of my comments are posting UGH
yeah, Tyler or Zeller. Screw it, Teller it is.
There are some guys who are driven crazy by Andy/Noah types. You can tell that after about a quarter, they just want to be left alone. BUT, Boogie Cousins LOVES that kind of play. The more physical, the better. It’s almost as if going against regular players keeps him slightly insane, and going against a energy freak like Andy, calms him and he just goes into destroy mode. It is part of the reason I think Cousins will be VERY good when he finally gets a playoff appearance. That style of basketball suits him. For many reasons, Rudy Gay has… Read more »
We actually played fairly decent offensively for the first half with a lot of nice feeds and passing generating open looks.
The simple fact is that when you give up 120 points you won’t win many of those matches. If we can keep opponents to around 100 or less we will go at least .500 the rest of the way as we are beginning to play much better offensively.
Just an addendum…
Not saying that I want them to become the Orlando Magic of 5-6 years ago (Hedo, Lewis, Nelson), just look to play to a strength.
@ Tom “Very disappointed that it seems the only way this Cavs teams imposes its will on opponents is with hot outside shooting.” Something I find interesting about this team it that they rank 11th in 3pt%, yet rank 23th in 3pt attempts, 19.8. When you consider that they have two guys (Delly, C.J.) shooting over 41%, maybe they to shoot more, not less 3 pt shots. Granted, with the very large caveat that they don’t just cross half-court, come up to the arc and put up a shot. Some off-ball srceens, high pick-n-roll, maybe some drive and kick. Anything… Read more »
@ Rodney Mac “Part of tonight was just bad luck. Rudy Gay was on fire against some pretty tough defense early on and Kyrie couldn’t hit a thing when he was guarded by Mclemore and Isah Thomas. The referees hammered us harder than usual in the 1st half. And everybody on the Kings played well.” All true. However, I think Patrick nailed it when he said: “The second half Cavs came out and played like Mike Brown had finished telling them “You get basketball points by SCORING, not PASSING!” and dribbled around and shot aimlessly for a while.”. The Kings… Read more »
Holy hell was that awful. Cousins has never looked so massive. Hey, trade Jarett Jack for J.R. Smith, and then deal Bennett for Donyell Marshall, he would be a significant upgrade. BTW Bennett is going to use up his fouls quick anyway, why not put him in with express purpose of roughhousing with Cousins, welcome to the NBA, time to earn your massive salary.
Agree about the CJ thing it was driving me nuts during the game Nate. Tom the Dion Free throws thing irks me because of the calls he doesn’t get. That charge he got called for in the first was just an awful call. Boogie threw his shoulder into him and somehow Dion got called for a charge. After that how is a guy going to take it to the rack again if he thinks he’s going to get hammered then get hammered by the refs. I get that he annoys the refs but they got to be professional and call… Read more »
At least Chad Ford’s Draft Lottery simulator is now up and running. The Cleveland cycle continues …
http://espn.go.com/nba/lottery2014/mockdraft
That was depressing as heck. I’m upset. Pardon my French, but that looked like they were hungover. The ball-handling guards? 5-27. C.J. Miles is 14-18 from three over the last three games, and only gets 8 shots? Irving, Jack, and Waiters played like selfish jerks, and I’m being nice.
The Cavs should not be aloud to be in the NBA after this loss. Can they be relegated to the D-League?
On another note. The Kings really aren’t that bad of a team. I’d be shocked if they were picking top ten again next year. Gay is thriving on a team with more space and Boogie is damn good even if immature. If Mclemore can turn out to be decent they have the makings of a team. They’ll need to trade either Jimmer, Thomas or Mclemore for a guard that can play defense but the other should be a nice bench player. If they get a 2 or 4 in the draft and the other via trade or free agency I… Read more »
*loose not lose **Since Bynum left. I pray for the day I can say since Jack left. Seriously why when guarding Jimmer Ferdette (the guy who can shoots the lights out, but has no moves to create separation, doesn’t finish we’ll if he can somehow get to the rim, doesn’t pass particularly well but can Shoot The Lights Out) would you ever go under a screen? Maybe if your big is hedging but even then the trap seems far more effective then going around both bigs and hoping to pick him up. But his big didn’t hedge on the 2nd… Read more »
@Rodney Mac – Jack is really failing the eye test for me. Not chasing spotted up 3-point-shooters off the line feels like something he does all the time. He also seems scared to shoot spotted up 3s himself – like it’s not his comfort zone even though he’s shooting a fairly high percentage from beyond the arc. This is sort of a problem since when he doesn’t have the ball he stands on the wing and does nothing. I’ve also noticed lately he’s lost confidence in his finishing abilities. He’d rather throw a shovel pass to an unsuspecting big than… Read more »
KJ said it after the last game this team (and most teams at all levels) only plays as well as its best player. When Kyrie struggles shooting he need to learn to not force things. Don’t stop shooting but only take open looks. When he starts forcing looks everyone seems to go into Hero mode. Jack hoists crazy off-balance mid-rangers, TT and Deng force drives and running hooks. Andy tries to make the perfect pass instead of the good easy high percentage pass. That’s what happened the second Jimmer got lose while Jack was going under screens trying to guard… Read more »
I turned it off in the third. Still scratching my head hours later. How does this fit any kind of narrative?
I suppose all-stars (I’m looking at you, Kyrie) sometimes shit the bed and rest of the team says “ok, that works for me.”
I dunno. Someone help make sense of this.
This team is bad, Luol have no idea. I mean, gosh Deng, hopefully they can turn it around
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You see what I did there?
The Cavs have been outscored by an average of 5 points per game over the last 3 games…. and they won 2 of those games by double digits!!! Holy hell.
I guess we all got ahead of ourselves in the last post.
So Cavsy.
I am at a loss of what the hell happened. We’ve played better teams than this AND still didn’t lose by 40+ points. C’mon Cavs.