The Point Four-ward: Summertime Rolls Edition
2014-07-09 Off By Robert AttenweilerFour points I’m thinking about the Cleveland Cavaliers…
1.) Last week, I wrote about the Cavs moves in free agency and failed to mention LeBron James. However hard to believe, it’s true. At the time, all of five days ago, I was still trusting what people who cover the league closely had been telling me since the Heat came crashing down in the Finals: sometimes where there’s smoke, there’s just a smoke machine. Basically, while The Return continued to be the year-long rumor that refused to die, very few people saw much in the story besides the story. Of course, the Cavs were going to court LeBron, as any team with the cap room and a drunk gunslinger’s chance of catching the eye of the best basketball player on the planet should have. And, for a league interested in becoming a year-long news cycle similar to the NFL, Cleveland presented The Angle: the plucky, oft-spurned suitor who croons and coos through 7-10 days of lead stories before James, eventually, though inevitably, returns to the pillowy-soft wedding bed of the Miami Heat.
So, even as The Story seems to have gone bi-pedal, I still remain skeptical about exactly how much weight its newly grown legs can support. Thus far, there has been relatively little substance to any reports regarding James’s intentions and, even if the needle seems to jitter Cleveland’s way and then not several times over the course of each day, the only thing really different than when no one wanted to talk about The Possibility is that now we can talk about it and — assuming we keep our heads about ourselves (that’s what sports fans do, after all, right?) — we need not feel silly doing so.
Keep in mind: I’m not predicting anything here. This is just trusting people more in the know than I am. If you look at what has actually happened since the LeBron talk picked up its little feet and began to walk, there’s not much to see. There may be, but it hasn’t happened as these fingers hit keys.
But stranger things, I absolutely know, have happened.
2.) Lost in all of the clamor of the rush to bear new Witness is the fact that there will actually be some version of Cavaliers basketball on display at the end of this week. On Tuesday, the team announced its Summer League roster that will kick off a Vegas vacation this Friday at 8pm ET. As is the case with most young teams, several players who will be in the mix for 2014-15 rotation spots will be on display starting, of course, with the team’s recent number one overall pick, Andrew Wiggins. After the months of picking at Wiggins’s game, it will be nice to have some actual (though, relative) NBA action on which to base judgements.
While Summer League can be a far cry from the talent level Wiggins will be competing against on a nightly basis come November, the League doesn’t get enough credit for the feistiness and competitiveness of its play. This is not an All-Star game. These Summer League rosters are filled out with players who want to make an impression on NBA or European teams so they can have a job playing basketball (even for part of) next year. For a player like Wiggins whose assertiveness has come under fire, getting hounded by some late-20s journeymen might be a good way to break his teeth on exactly how much his opponents will want to break him once the real games start. But for a player who prides himself so much on his work on the defensive end, it’s reasonable to expect Wiggins to give back whatever he learns he can get at the other end and wind up having himself a pretty good Summer League. Athleticism rules in these summertime games and the one thing we do know about Wiggins is that he is flush with that.
What’s more, the NBA won’t have to wait long at all to get it’s “Wiggins/Jabari Parker rivalry” motor running. The Cavs opening game comes against Parker’s Milwaukee Bucks.
3.) Flying a bit further under the radar than Wiggins’s debut, is the first summer swing by 2013 number one pick, Anthony Bennett. Bennett, who will be playing on the same courts he patrolled in his one year at UNLV, is reportedly in great shape … finally. After missing last year’s Summer League while recovering from shoulder surgery, these games in Vegas represent Bennett’s first shot at the retribution he’ll likely tell you is the furthest thing from his mind. Still, look for Bennett to likely be the summer team’s first option on offense when he’s on the floor as the new coaching staff tries to get a handle on what exactly they have in the 6-8 whatever-he-is-now pounder. For a player who showed a decent amount of explosiveness even when significantly overweight last year, Friday will be Bennett’s first chance (while likely matched up against Parker) to show Cavs fans and the league just what his real game might look like.
How did the Cavs other recent number one picks fare in their first Summer League action?
Kyrie Irving never played in Summer League. In 2011, the League was canceled due to the league-wide lockout and, the next year, he hurt his hand slapping the padded wall beneath a basket in practice, missing summer action again.
In 2003, LeBron James played in four of the Cavs’ six games at the Reebok Pro Summer League in Boston, averaging 15.8 points a game to go along with 7.3 rebounds, 4.3 assists and 4 turnovers.
4.) Usually, Summer League teams are coached by one of the team’s assistants. Last year, Jason Kidd decided to get his feet wet as the lead man on the bench by coaching the Nets’ Summer League team in Orlando. This year, the similarly-career-pathed, Derek Fisher, will be coaching the Knicks team in Vegas. Those moves made sense, as both Kidd and Fisher were fresh off of their playing careers and had no prior coaching experience. The Cavs will see a slightly less orthodox situation in which a coach with over 20 years of professional coaching experience mans their Summer League bench. That man, of course, is new head coach, David Blatt. Blatt, whose storied coaching career has, to this point, taken place entirely overseas, will use the games in Vegas to begin his formal acquaintance with the NBA sideline. He will be joined by associate head coach, Tyronn Lue, and a bevy of former Mike Brown assistants, including Jim Boylan, former Cav, Vitaly Potapenko, and new bench addition, James Posey.
While it’s unlikely we’ll see many bells and whistles from Blatt’s much ballyhooed offense, giving him some extra hands-on time coaching to actual NBA rules and working with some of the younger players — including Matthew Dellavedova, Carrick Felix, and Sergey Karasev — on his roster certainly ups the usually low level of interest in whoever is sitting on the Cavs bench in Vegas.
Cavs are unfortunately in a damned if you do/don’t situation. For everyone who doesn’t like this cap-clearing move and giving up on the potential of Zeller and Karasev (Jack needed to go anyway), there’s an avalanche of people who would excoriate them for NOT clearing the space for the chance to get LBJ back. Even if he doesn’t make the move this off-season, he’d be stupid to go back to Heat on anything more than a one or two year deal to make one last push for a ring. This would also give the Cavs youngsters a shot at more… Read more »
LeBron out in vegas too—did by any chance he get to see wiggins perform and come away with the same impressions as amico—–wow wow wow——I want to play with that kid
Totally agree with Richard. It’s do or die now. They are committed to Lebron whether he comes or not.
Trade alert. Peace Zeller, Karasev, Jack, and unknown future first rounder. F@cking stupid if we don’t get LeBron.
LeBron is going to come back. Quit worrying.
THANK YOU KYLE
All the talk about missing out on Hayward needs to stop. The Jazz are 100% matching. The Cavs have the same likelihood of getting Hayward as the Bobcats do (that is, zero)
Yep. Plus Hayward is just s so-so guy. We aren’t missing out on much.
Charlie thank you for the info will tune in to see the ” WOW WOW WOW SHOW “——understand where you are coming from grover but again if we pursue/ sign Hayward we are not even giving ourselves a shot at LeBron —-Hayward is a nice player but I think we can get another of equal caliber —–here is th thng LeBron needs to ask himself —- HOW REWARDING IS IT TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP AT MIAMI VS HOW REWARDING WOULD IT BE TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP HERE IN CLEVELAND —-I CAN GAURANTEE THE FEELING OF WINNING HERE WOULD BE A… Read more »
Jarrett Jack just tweeted “I got news” and that’s all. I can only assume a) he was traded, or b) he heard news about James. Argh!
From Marc Stein: “ESPN sources say Brooklyn Nets on verge of acquiring Jarrett Jack from Cleveland in three-team deal. Boston is third team in deal will acquire Tyler Zeller from Cleveland as well as future first-rounder and Marcus Thornton from Nets”
Bye bye Tyler. Wonder if the Cavs get ANYTHING besides free cap space.
More from Stein: Three-team trade will see Nets acquire Jarrett Jack and Sergey Karasev from Cleveland. Boston gets Thornton, Zeller and a first.
OK, now correct me if I’m wrong in this speculation: Would Griffin do that if he DIDN:T have a commitment from LeBron?? That’s a lot to give up just to clear cap space. Granted the only one we would miss a bit is Tyler, but wow.
Now I really hope we don;t grab Love immediately. Hate to see what we would give up there,
I was thinking yesterday that if Lebron was coming back, this deal would be the first sign of it. The Cavs apparently had this deal in place for days. Hope the fact that they’re pulling the trigger now means they have a commitment.
I would understand giving up Jack for cap relief and adding Karasev as a bonus piece, giving up Zeller though has me more confident than ever!!!
Zydrunas is coming back! You know what that means! (joking)
HATE HATE HATE that trade.
WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO PLAY CENTER???? Varejao can’t play 30 minutes a night for 82 games anymore.
True but LBJ and me at centre is better than Zeller and no LBJ. I am sad to lose him though as he had improved a lot between years one and two.
We apparently now have $24 million in cap space with LeBron only needing $20.7 million. That leaves us $3.3 million (and don;t we have two exceptions?) to sign (or trade for) a center. And don’t forget we still have Brendan Haywood for a year. Granted, not ideal, but he’s still a 7-footer to clog the middle.
This just tweeted from Windhorst: “In a time of reckless speculation this is unequivocal: Heat didn’t expect to need 2010-style recruiting meeting with LeBron this summer”
Sam Amico tweet:
Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO · 10h
Here is the analysis I received on Cavs rookie Andrew Wiggins out of Vegas so far: “That kid, wow. Just wow. Wow, wow, wow.”
again do you want to pursue Hayward or LeBron ( we WOULD BE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NBA IF WE PURUED HAYWARD AND DIDN’T HAVE ANY CAP SPACE IF LEBRON ELECTS TO COME HERE )—- are any of these summer games televised would enjoy tuning into them especially this fri cavs vs bucks——would like to see Bennett overwhelm parker
As I said above, my primary complaint about LeBron leaving was not that he chose the free agent path . . . it’s that he left us hanging while any free agent that could help the team had been signed.
But here’s the thing: If LeBron does come back here based on what we have now, it is not based on the signing of free agents (except maybe Ray Allen), for exactly this reason , i.e. many could be promised before he decided. It may be on the promise of a trade. We already have a good core that I want to see how it fares, even moreso if LeBron brings his talents back. A trade would be icing if it doesn’t mess with that core (see my previous comments on Love). Bottom line: If LeBron does commit to the… Read more »
Wonder if Blatt will have an opportunity to coach the team when LeBron comes to town (kids included).
You can buy the games and watch online (nba.com) NBA cable channel also carries them I believe if you get that.
In all fairness, nomad, that scenario would never happen. If the Cavs signed Hayward, they simply wouldn’t even talk to Lebron’s agent at that point, for not having the money. The “what if” part of your theory would simply never come to pass.
Losing Hayward hurts. Not only do we not get him, but Charlotte just got A LOT better.
Interesting fallout….does this mean they’ve given up on MKG?
Cannot wait for summer league!! Not sure which I’m more excited about- seeing Wiggins for the first time for us or seeing the new and improved Bennett in action!
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11193887/gordon-hayward-charlotte-hornets-agree-63-million-offer-sheet
Well looks like we can call Gordon Hayward a next lost free agent signing for the cavs, sigh
The thing that bugged me the most about LeBron leaving the last time was he waited and left us hanging until any free agent that could possibly help salvage our season had been signed (not that any high level player would have come here). It’s not that LeBron left . . . it’s that he left us hanging and then left.
Good, though costly, move by the Bobcats. After many down years they snuck into the playoffs last year and needed another difference maker to continue their ascent. Now let’s see if Utah matches.
I’ve been doing the same thing, but they’re the Hornets now.
I think the Cavs didn’t make an offer because they knew Utah would match. Can’t lose something you had no real shot at getting.
More likely: They were WAITING to make an offer until after LeBron made a decision . . . as they are waiting to make an offer on Ariza, Parsons, et al. What I’m saying is, if LeBron does not choose Cleveland – we’ve been played again.
Possibly, though Utah will match as will Houston (unless it gets Melo / LBJ) – no point making an offer for a RFA until tonight anyway as it just hamstrings you until the 13th
Would rather have Parsons anyway. Better value for less money than Hayward. 4 years @ $63 mil is too much.