Recap: New York 95, Cleveland 90 (or “In Northeast Ohio, Nothing is Given. Everything is Earned.”)
2014-10-31The words from “The Letter” came back to haunt LeBron James and the Cavaliers in this game: a game that no one in Northeast Ohio thought the Cavs could lose. LeBron looked nervous. David Blatt looked overwhelmed. And the Cavs looked like they’d bought stock in the seriously ill-conceived “big three” narrative. Honestly, there could have been about a dozen more subtitles to this recap. Examples include: “Andrew Wiggins would have blocked that shot,” “LeBron has terrible games too,” “Defense matters,” “That crowd sucked,” “Go back to Hollywood, Biebs,” or “Oh that’s right, Carmelo Anthony’s pretty good.” Ultimately though, the Knicks just played with more energy, intelligence, and focus. The energy that had infused the entirety of the city of Cleveland throughout the day seemed to drain the Cavs instead of fuel them.
The Cavs led early, trailed late, and just seemed to wait a few minutes too many to “turn it on.” In a way, I’m glad the Cavs lost this game. Not because I root against them, but because the Cavs and we fans needed to learn a lesson: winning is not automatic. Winning is about effort, and the Cavs displayed a conspicuous lack of it. Also, as much as this game was about the renaissance of Cleveland, it was antithetical to the working-class ethos of Cleveland. This was one of the worst crowds I’ve ever seen at a Cavs game, and some of the worst defensive effort I’ve seen from a Cavs team in a big game since… last season. I got in an argument with Tom Pestak about this crowd. He disagreed, but when you watch every game in HD, you learn to recognize faces and people in the crowd. A lot of regulars sold their tickets to this one.
I saw some of the most bizarre basketball fans I’d seen in a while. Some of these people looked like they were dressed for the opera. Quite frankly, there were too many one-percenters there, and not nearly enough die-hard Cavs fans. We’re not Lakers fans. We are Cavs fans. A basketball game should be a basketball game, and not a place to see and be seen. In LeBron’s return, the fans should have been standing the entire game. Instead, after the first half of the first quarter, the crowd had their butts glued down. This might be the first Cavs game I can remember that I yelled at the crowd through my TV. There was no point when the Cavs were lagging in which the crowd tried to get the team going. I didn’t hear one Cleveland kid trying to start a “Let’s go Cleve-land!” chant. The Cavs could have used it. Maybe the fans were exhausted too.
And this is not to say that the city of Cleveland didn’t represent itself very well. The vibe throughout the region has been one of constant positivity and joy throughout the week. It was evidenced in the pre-game concert outside the Q, and everyone on television said that they’d never seen a city this palpably excited for a sporting event. Way to go, North Coast. Let’s hope we can get it into the Q next game.
LeBron James had a really bad game. In 43 minutes, he went 5-15, 1-5 from three, had eight turnovers, and was a game low -13. He seemed very nervous and very out-of-sync with his teammates, and like his teammates, he displayed an unacceptable level of apathy on defense. I saw saw multiple occasions of LeBron failing to even try to close out on open shooters, and this apathy infected his teammates. Here’s a video of some lazy-a#% defense by James on a Larkin three.
But that’s not all from Shane Larkin. In the defensive low point of the game, Larkin shot-faked from the left wing, and sent Andy flying. This wouldn’t have been so bad, but LeBron and Kevin Love both stared at Larkin as he dribbled to the mid post and launched a completely uncontested jumper that scored. Here’s the video. The lack of effort is even worse than the last movie.
The Knicks shot 54% percent during the game. Yes, they hit some unbelievably tough shots, including this absolutely back-breaking 31-footer by Prigioni in the late third, but two or three passes consistently led to open shots or open driving lanes for the Knicks. J.R. Smith abused every Cav guarding him throughout the game to the tune of 11 points and seven dimes in 25 minutes and was able to score the biggest crunch-time basket with 48 seconds left to put the Knicks up five. In the video, you can see that he easily drove by Waiters, who got caught completely flat footed, and then scored over a challenge by Kevin Love that was half-a!$ed who exhibited poor defensive fundamentals. Andrew Wiggins would have sent that weak shot into the third row. Just sayin’.
Carmelo Anthony played about half his game outside of the triangle offense and scored some isolation baskets, but also in the flow of triangle sets. He played very well. He notched 25 points and six assists on 64% True Shooting. Anthony sealed the game when he canned this absolutely filthy step back jumper from the left baseline over LeBron with 25 seconds remaining to push the lead to seven.
Carmelo is going to score his points. He’s not one of the best scorers in the league for nothing. But allowing the likes of Jason Smith to score 12 points on 5-6 shooting in 18 minutes is not winning basketball. If you want to watch Kevin Love consistently fail to even try to close out on Smith, you can watch the video here (Yes, Love was defending on every single field goal).
Kevin Love was the Cavs best offensive player, scoring 19 points on 60% true shooting. He scored on cuts, three pointers, post ups, and he also added 14 rebounds. But when you get 11 defensive rebounds because you refuse to challenge shooters, I’m going to raise my eyebrow when I read your box score.
Kevin was also a part of the cabal that absolutely ignored Anderson Vareao in the post. Andy was 4-5 from the floor including going 2-2 on his now-perfected, absolutely unblockable, jump hook. More than once Andy had the undersized Quincy Acy one-on-one in the post, and the Cavs pretended like he wasn’t there. There was a narrative throughout the game about the Cavs “big three.” One of the reports from the announcers about their pre-game conversations with Blatt revealed that Blatt planned to have one of the Cavs “Big Three” (Love, Irving, and LeBron) on the floor at every point during the game. There seemed to be a very concerted effort to get these guys their shots instead of just passing the ball to the player that was open or in a good position to score. This was dumb. Where was the Delly/Waiters chemistry that worked so well in the early third quarter last year?
Dion Waiters was OK. He didn’t force anything, but he he wasn’t able to attack in transition as he has gotten so adept at, because mostly, there were four Knicks back on defense every time. Waiters finished with 10 points on nine shots, but was deferring a lot.
Matthew Dellavedova came in during the late third and his energy was needed. He got beat by J.R. Smith a couple times (as did everyone), but had some good defensive effort, especially on a post entry denial when he was matched up on ‘Melo in the fourth. Delly went 2-2 from three (a good sign), added three dimes, no turnovers, and was a team high +6 for the game. He was the Cavs best bench player. David Blatt went with a surprisingly short rotation of only 8 players with TT and Marion getting the only other significant minutes. The Cavs bench was out-scored 41-12 by the Knicks bench.
David Blatt’s rotations were baffling. He played LeBron 44 minutes and Irving 43: too many. The Cavs went three guard in their crunch time lineup with Delly and Love at center in an attempt to increase the tempo. But the lineup lacked the defensive chops to stop the Knicks from scoring. A little offense/defense substitution there would have been helpful, and Varejao’s absence was glaring on defense. Blatt also put LeBron at the two in the second quarter. That lineup failed to put LeBron into the post as consistently as it should have and mostly looked clunky.
Not that this game was all bad. The Cavs ball movement, especially early, was crisp. Kyrie Irving scored 22 and added seven assists. He scored from everywhere: in transition, off the ball, and off the dribble. But his 1-6 three point shooting hurt, and he forced more than a couple threes. Irving also, as one reader put it, “channeled his inner Curly Neal” on defense: sticking to screens and closing out on the wrong side of players, which allowed dribble penetration.
Shawn Marion looked done. He got smoked on defense, and was 0-2 from the floor as he attempted two shots that never had a chance to go in. Can we officially retire the “36 year old defensive stopper” meme?
Aside from a nice finish on an oop from Kyrie to close the first half and a pass from Delly to close the third quarter, Tristan Thompson had a mostly unnoticeable two more points two rebounds in the other 20 minutes.
But this game mostly came down to LeBron. This was one of the worst games I’ve seen him have in some time. He was nervous and the hooplah of the past few days probably got to him. LeBron isn’t going to play this poorly very often. Most of his turnovers turnovers were the result of him not being on the same page with the his teammates. It was hard to tell if they were his teammates’ faults or his. It probably doesn’t matter. It’s just a guess, but I think James will bounce back.
In Northeast Ohio, nothing is given. I think we all forgot that lesson for a minute. But we had our party. Hopefully, this feel good hippy-dippy happy crappy that seems to make all you millennials weep is over. Now that we’ve had our Kumbaya fest, our inspirational shoe commercials, and our paint advertisement posters, the Cavs can get down to the business of basketball. The party was fun, but after a three months, the sheen of the narratives have started to wear around the corners. It’s time to get to work. Take me to church. (OK, that commercial still gets me. I’m not made of stone.)
Gordon thank you for ” talking me off the roof “—-not ready to jump yet after your ” calming —sound ” advice
Also, you all need to CTFO about last night’s game. Blatt was overwhelmed? We’re too old? Let’s make a trade? Are you guys kidding me?
Haha. Yep. All will be right after tonight.
Cols the prognosticator!!
You forgot to tell us it would be overtime!
I might be in the minority here, but I didn’t like the whole fuss about that game. The introductions were awesome and I love that the fans went nuts, but there was too much going on for the first game of the regular season. I’m glad it’s over. LeBron did play nervous. He did a few weird things and looked like he wasn’t coordinated, like he was thinking about the crowd rather than the game. Which is fine. This was a huge game – not in the sporting context, but for the city of Cleveland. I don’t like that the… Read more »
I don’t think allen is the answer ( check performances from the other geriatric players Marion / Miller so far )—we may need to use that haywood trade option sooner than expected and get a YOUNG / ATHLETIC RIM PROTECTOR —I know 1 game doesn’t make a season and I surely am not in panic mode ( but as I mentioned in my earlier blog —I have been concerned about Marion’s / Miller’s play all season—-they were supposed to be a pivotal part of our rotation —haven’t seen it yet—-believe their age / injuries have caught up to them to… Read more »
Unfortunately, the Haywood trade exception will not work until after the season.
Don’t panic quite yet. If things don’t start falling into place in a few weeks, maybe we need to worry. According to Chones, a major problem to date is that no one has figured out how to get the ball to LeBron when and where he needs it.
I hate all this hype. Yeah, this is all big for Cleveland . . . but the media is out of control.
I was really looking forward to listening to national broadcasters cover the game. After last night I’ll probably go back to AC and McLeod. Or turn on the radio and listen to Chones. Someone here said that listening to Chones was like watching a game with a buddy. It doesn’t sound too bad to me – watching a game with a buddy . . . who once played for the Cavs.
I also like Chones in a “with a buddy” way, but he is a mixed bag as a color man. About 2/3 of the time, he has good insights. But sometimes he goes into nonsense. And he tends to yammer and blot out the action. Joe Tait (the all time best anywhere) never got more than about 2 seconds behind the action. John Michael often has to fill in the last couple of plays that happened while Chones was holding forth. The pair could be a lot better with a strict producer that reviewed the broadcast with them and made… Read more »
I agree wholeheartedly. The whole thing was annoying to me. This season should only be special for Cleveland fans, not everyone else. I really hope the media chills out about the whole thing.
At the beginning of the game the announcer talked about how all the fans had chalk, and the way he said something along the lines of “That way all of the fans can join in with their hero . . .” felt forced and weird. Shut up, announcer.
Speaking of which – the chalk thing was too much.
In spite of all the glimmer of last night, I still would have preferred a victory over the Bulls tonight than a victory in the opener!
Lebron hasn’t looked like Lebron thusfar . . . preseason and all. No explosion. No handle. Poor decisions. Guys like Dunleavy stripping the ball from him on a regular basis. He needs to show something against Chicago.
Does he need carbs?
YES. Lose the pole-caught fish and free-range chicken! He needs to go back on the Gloria James spaghettios and french fries diet!
He just needs a hard foul from Taj Gibson or Noah to get him angry. Hopefully
He did have a slight altercations with (Smith?) slapping the ball away after the whistle blew. They jawed at each other. The Knick didn’t back down. The next time James got the ball he dribbled to the top and passed it.
Yeah – no explosion at all.
It’s affecting him mentally. He’s standing around waiting for something to happen or someone to pass to.
Ray Allen? If so, he’s going to be standing around waiting for a while…
Stephen A just raved about the crowd on first take for about 10 minutes… And Nate says the crowd sucked?? Who the F is Nate anyways????
The crowd was awesome at the beginning of the game. The team let the crowd down. The crowd didn’t let the team down.
Not trying to dig here, but i’m guessing Stephen A is just playing the media angle. The crowd definitely wasn’t anything to write home about. Lots of reasons for that but hope it picks up.
Stephen A is a clown. He was probably impressed that Bieber was there.
I like Stephen A. And Barkley said the crowd stood out historically (“in my 30 years of being a part of the NBA…”) Not sure why Nate is upset with the crowd – they went ballistic during intros and all the pre-game stuff, were pretty loud in the 1st quarter – and then got to watch one of the most dysfunctional 3 quarters of basketball since…oh yeah, since last year. I’m sorry nate you can’t stand and scream for 3 straight hours during that sort of game. In the first quarter I stood inches from my TV and let loose… Read more »
Agreed. The crowd was plenty loud until the play on the court went bad. No problems there. It was a strange game, one that we shouldn’t analyze too much. Onward and upward. The best thing about the NBA is that they get to play again tonight against a team that we will kill in the ECF.
“you can’t stand and scream for 3 straight hours during that sort of game…” Tell that to Seahawks fans or Spurs fans from the “Air Conditioner Game” last summer. I mean we’ve got multiple accounts of people saying, “yeah the crowd was pretty quiet after the first quarter,” and “people were telling me to sit down.” I’ve never seen a lower bowl at a Cavs game that sedate. It was weird. Maybe everyone peaked too early, and yes, I know there plenty of 9to5ers, but there’s definitely something to the theory that this game priced out the die-hards. A guy… Read more »
Um. You can’t compare a football game to a basketball game. Also, the Spurs game was in the playoffs and the Spurs played well the entire game.
If the Cavs hadn’t sort of sucked after the 1st quarter I’m sure the arena would’ve remained loud. The team let the crowd down, not the other way around.
The team let the crowd down a little bit. But that doesn’t mean the crowd can’t keep the intensity level ratcheted up. It’s not like it was a blowout — it was a close game throughout and, at least according to the ticket prices, was every bit as big a deal as a Finals game.
To me it was bigger than a Finals game, which is why I felt it was mandatory to attend and subsequently scream my lungs out for four quarters.
Who am I? Someone proud to disagree with Stephen A.!
Stephen A was also the loudmouth who shut Mike Wilbon down in the pre-game. Wilbon was making some comment that began with “The Cavs should win this game….” and before Wilbon could get his point out, Stephen A. was loudly proclaiming “The Cavs WILL win this game”, “The Knicks are a joke”, “The Cavs will win” etc etc in only a way that he can. Very obnoxiously at that.
The guy is an utter buffoon – how he has a national stage is beyond me.
Wilbon was professional and just let it go in the moment.
Windhorst’s story on the game makes a great point about it feeling somewhat unnatural “because of the overwhelming force of James’ return… sort of ruled the game invalid”. It was all about the introductions; many people could have left right after tipoff and felt satisfied (myself included).
four thoughts:
1) those ten pounds lebron lost? he should put them back on
2) we need a true big man; i love andy and like tristan but they’re power forwards not true centers
3) our defense has a looooong way to go — partially a size issue, partially on blatt
4) that nike commercial is ridiculous. last i checked lebron wasn’t jesus of nazareth… as was plenty clear last night.
I know Nate is harping on the defense, but it honestly looked better than I thought it would. While the most glaring deficiencies were pointed out in the referenced videos above (and oddly featured a lot of LBJ coasting), what he didn’t point out were the three 24 second violations and several other near shot clock violations that the Knicks escaped with miraculous shots (e.g. the Prigioni 31-foot desperation heave). Agree with one of the commenters above that KLove looked like he was overhelping on D. But seriously, aside from leaving Jason Smith wide open for all of his shots… Read more »
Yep. Yep. Yep.Yep. Yep. Yep.Yep. Yep. Yep.Yep. Yep. Yep.
I’m never glad when a Cleveland team loses, but there’s a lot of things to address and so, learning opportunity. After the first quarter, they got smoked. It seemed like the team became increasingly lost in relationship to their learning LeBron was not going to command the scene on this night. Getting torched by a Knick bench letting loose from well outside the paint is a problem that will need to be solved by. . .tonight. Blatt channeled his inner Mike Brown in pointing out offensive success starts at the defensive end, and, yeah, too “static” too much of the… Read more »
I had a few takeaways: weird rotations – esp missing andy late. I saw too many empty possessions where the Cavs didn’t get one of the “big 3” involved. LeBron went into the post twice in the first quarter – Knicks made a concerted effort to push him away from deep position. He never went back. LeBron’s never had the tightest handle, but my Lord. He couldn’t dribble the ball in a straight line against zero defensive pressure. Definitely nerves and lack of comfort with teammates. Team will take a few weeks/months to gel. Loved the full court press. Refs… Read more »
“Awesome day for Cleveland. The loss isn’t a big deal – it was about the homecoming, not the game. It’s going to take time, there is no panic button. ”
Yep. I doubt it even takes much time to correct this. Really, if Leb plays a normal average Leb game, they win going away. I’m not worried at all.
Yeah i definitely forgot to mention the 8 second violations. Refs blew one for sure.
As someone who was in the arena, I feel like the crown never really got going because the team never really got going. Too many momentum killing turnovers or quick 3’s that didn’t fall. Everyone kept waiting for LeBron(or anyone, really) to flip that switch and take control of the game and it never happened. Also, just because you have money doesn’t somehow bar you from being a true fan. Shame on you for asserting as much.
A lot of my non-Cleveland fans are telling me LBJ looked “skinny” last night. I personally didn’t notice that at all.
Well it’s been (overly) reported that he was on a strict diet this summer of no carbs, sugars, etc. He was eating lean chicken, fish, veggies, and fruits, and that was it. He did drop a lot of weight.
I thought Love looked skinnier from past years too.
Skinny is was not his problem, but tired might have been. Just wondering how much sleep LBJ got between his newborn daughter and the nervous energy and anticipation of what this day/night would bring.
Please don’t knock the fans, even if the game attracted celebs and “1%ers.” Courtside luminaries, paparazzi and the bright lights are fun. Ask anyone. The NBA is cooler than other sports in this respect, as the fans and players are closer to one another and you can have special occasions like this that are fun. There are plenty of other opportunities (40 to be exact) for the regular fans and die-hards to dominate. As for the team, it was alternately discouraging and encouraging. – We know LeBron will improve, and he was the main problem last night! – Love’s energy… Read more »
I was there. It was a largely and surprisingly dead crowd. I can’t recall the people in my immediate vicinity/section cheering even once. I of course can barely talk today but felt like i was all alone up there in the nosebleeds. I’m worried but attribute it to 3 things: 1) Cavs just didn’t bring it. Every time they started to get hot and amp up the crowd NY would wisely call a timeout and the arena would cool down. Lebron was straight lethargic and seemed to set that tone. I noticed this in the preseason and was hoping it… Read more »
I was up there screaming with you, BigDigg, there were some of us. I think after the intros, however, the crowd reflected the energy of the game itself. To me it seemed as though LeBron and Co. tried to make it a point not to “get caught up in the moment,” which in general seems like a good idea for athletes trying to focus on performing. But this was a unique occasion. LeBron has always been a guy who feeds off the crowd’s energy and he’s kidding himself trying to play otherwise. Now that the jitters are exorcised, I just… Read more »
Why can’t we knock the fans? If its fair to point out Lebron had one of his worst games, why can’t we say the crowd had one of it’s worst games.
I think Nate hit the nail on the head when he mentioned the Lakers. It feels a lot like we’ve become the Lakers, right down the the subsection of the fanbase who can’t even envision us possibly losing.
I don’t know what this means.
1. In zero ways does this team resemble any lakers team in the last 40 years.
2. If we were like the Lakers then I look forward to lots of winning over the next couple of decades.
Then I’d suggest upping your reading comprehension game.
We’re becoming the Big Show. The spectacle. Cavs games are a place for the Justin Beibers of the world to show their mugs.
And point two is what I was getting at. I have no idea how winning has suddenly seemed to be a thing that Cavs fans feel entitled to. You would think that it would take about two seconds of looking into history to knock it off with the hubris.
I don’t think he means the Lakers team itself but more the air surrounding the organization. Celebrities go to Lakers games just to be seen — there are so many A-list stars in LA that the franchise essentially becomes something more than a basketball team, it’s a “place” where stars congregate and celebrate success. There is a real history of prestige there, and it’s not necessarily for every basketball fan. The Cavs game last night resembled some of this, with Justin Timberlake, Bieber, etc and ESPN setting up outside the Q. Maybe it took on kind of a “who’s who… Read more »
Whatever. I hope we become a spectacle. I hope celebrities go to the games. I hope we are constantly on national teevee. I want to be a national team. Not some loser local franchise that only has die hard fans. We need bandwagoners. Because bandwagoners means the team is relevant.
Without James we were not relevant. We are now. I’ll take this over the alternative every single time.
I said during the game that Lebron is picking up right where he left off in that Boston series. Tongue-in-cheek of course, although he didn’t look much better than that Game 5. Hopefully he can get things together again quickly.
I am hoping that all the pre game hoopla had a lot to do with the over all performances and the lack luster crowd—give me a crowd of ” blue collar ” fans over the ” hollywoods ” anytime —-I have mentioned all pre season about my concerns with marion and miller ( am I not correct in saying we were counting on key / productive 15- 20 minutes a game—-have not seen that yet —reason for concern )——does t.t.’s performance last night mean we will not se a contract extension by midnight tonight —-rotations by blatt ned to be… Read more »
TT looked really bad. Extending him for anything more than $8M is crazy. I think since Andy is getting an extension that we will just let Thompson go.
Don’t bank on it. Rich Paul is the agent for LeBron and TT. TT is going to be taken care of as a thank you to LeBron. Doesn’t matter if it makes sense or not, that’s just how it works.
I’m fine with it if it keeps Leb happy.
Let it play out and come to LeBron at season’s end “Err, so do you really want us spending 12m a year on a player who could be replaced by any league average PF/C?” LeBron’s not leaving over us cutting an average TT.
It was hard to gauge the crowd from up in Loudville but I see Nate’s point about the game being more of a spectacle and drawing many fair weather Cavs fans, especially in the lower sections. I for one am hoarse today from screaming the entire game; I know I brought all the energy I had. LeBron had a good welcome home. I almost teared up this morning when I watched a video of the introductions. I don’t blame him for an unfocused performance. Guy just had a kid and was the center of one of the most emotional events… Read more »
I liked what I saw from Delly off the bench. He created a turnover that led to the short-lived comeback. I agree with the thoughts on Andy. I saw 10 missed PnR opportunities to Andy. He’d cut with his arms up with a mostly clear lane and not see the ball. Any of the Cavs could have made that pass. They also lost the rebound battle (mostly in the 4th) when the offense went a little too Mike Brown. It’s all growing pains. And its why most of us pegged the Cavs for 60 or less wins. It’s not that… Read more »
Andy also was having trouble handling passes and didn’t rebound at all. In fact Andy and Thompson were both pretty terrible yesterday. Love played his butt off and grabbed 14 boards.
Waiters, Irving, Love, all looked good. Leb, Andy, TT looked bad. Delly looked OK, but he’s just so limited offensively that it hurts the team when they have the ball.
Was going to argue with you about Andy’s rebounding, but Four Factors supports your thesis.
http://stats.nba.com/game/#!/0021400018/fourfactors/
Knicks were 37.5% on the offensive boards when Andy was in the game. However, the time he spent on the floor with Marion (55.5%!) might have influenced that number.
Just watched the Jason Smith baskets. Love needs more effort and he needs to take one step off on his attempt to string the ball handler out, so he can get back to his guy a tad quicker.
From my perspective, the crowd was OK but not great. I got yelled at to sit down many times, once mere moments after an “everybody up” announcement (like we had done our job by being up on our feet for 15 seconds). With so much pre-game hoopla it was hard to sustain voice for the whole game. There were things about the game in the second half that did subdue the crowd, though — key moments where the momentum building shot was missed or the Cavs couldn’t get a stop. But yeah, it’s only the first game, so you can’t… Read more »
I think ultimately the game itself was periphery to the Homecoming. The momentum of the game never really reached critical mass. The national anthem and intros were amazing, though. I’ve never been in a crowd where so many people WILLINGLY joined into the national anthem! What a unifying experience.
When the lights went out and the red glowsticks filled the arena, that is really when I stepped back and had to say to myself, “this is freaking awesome”…
Yeah. I got chills when that happened. It was awesome.
Weird game. It was clear that this team can be an offensive juggernaut. If Lebron plays even close to normal, this game’s a blowout. I mean A BLOWOUT. Still, I’m thinking about the comments he made about adversity giving rise to true chemistry. “Adversity comes from losing games you should’ve won,” he said. So, a little adversity early is a good thing. I do think Blatt needs to watch those minutes. Our bench looked weak, but I wonder if it’s how they’re being used. Lots of stuff to figure out there. Totally agree about Andy. He’s gonna get space to… Read more »
Eh. I’m not worried. They were super passive and overly passing the ball on offense. Defense looked ok. This is probably the worst they will play all year. Nothing to take away from thisngame
The only thing I disagree with Cols is that this will be the worst they play all year. It’s probably the worst LeBron will play all year, but I expect other rough nights where they lose by more than five.
112.3 points per 100 possessions to a team that won’t make the playoffs in the East on the second night of their back to back is not “ok”.
Seriously, if the Wiggins stuff becomes the new JV or Harrison Barnes thing (where we have to listen to people talk about what could have been), I may blow a gasket. Dan nailed this point. Let’s please stop talking about Wiggins. This kind of commentary brings a snarky, condescending tone to your writing that takes away from your many good insights. We need to watch 10 games on this team before we learn anything. We lost tonight because LBJ was terrible. LBJ was terrible because he was way too hyped up and nervous. I mean, he couldn’t even control his… Read more »
Oh geez. Let me have one regular season game to wish, will you? But I see where you’re coming from. The point was more about KLove’s piss-poor defense than anything.
I was going to agree on the Wiggins narrative, but now I think it would be fun to keep it alive just to see Hot Sauce blow a gasket.
LOL. You truly are an Evil Genius.
And never under estimate the effect a new baby has on performance. I remember a few years back brees had a child and put up a shocking performance the following Sunday. James had the least energy of everyone.
I completely forgot about this. In the words of Troy Aikman, “You’re absolutely right, James.”
Yep I agree about the crowd. Wasn’t it a lottery tonight to decide who got it? Obviously that would mean far more fair-weather fans coming in. The shot of LeBron throwing the chalk shows about 80% of people just wanting a photo!!! JOIN IN!!!! Start screaming!
I don’t blame anyone for selling their ticket either considering how much they were selling for.
Anyway I’m glad we lost too.
Let’s just not overreact to anything that happens in November. I think you have to give Blatt a month before jumping to any conclusions about his coaching abilities.
Anyone saying they’re glad we lost (Nate included) are just not being honest with themselves. Sure there are losses that are good and build character, or even demonstrate weaknesses that teams should be cognizant of. But to say you’re glad about it is an exaggeration to ease/assuage the pain of losing.
Yep. I think that some losses are acceptable due to circumstances and whatnot. But I’m never glad we lost.
Last night I find it acceptable.
For the record, I’m not glad they lost. I think it sucks. I think it unfortunately tainted what should have been a really memorable night in Cleveland sports history. It would have had a place on my DVR for the whole season, but I’d just assume save room for a signature win instead. I’m annoyed it was against the Knicks because I’ve always hated the Knicks and can’t stand Spike Lee (as a fan or in person). While I accept that they lost, and am not going to spiral out about it, I’m pissed off about it and I hope… Read more »
Yeah sorry. It was poorly phrased. I stayed up till 3 in the morning in the UK to watch the game so was 100% wanting us to win and was gutted when we didn’t.
Rather I meant that I think good can come from this and it can act as a wake up call to any of our young players that winning NBA games remains difficult, even with LeBron on your side.
What is with the Andrew Wiggins narrative? Are you talking about the Wiggins whose line this year is 7.0 pts, 3.5 ast, & 1.0 rb? Forgot to add ZERO blocked shots, so why the comments about him blocking anything but a more productive veteran from getting minutes? There was a concerted effort to get the “big 3” shots? It appeared to me there was a concerted effort to NOT shoot at all, hence all the turnovers from way too many passes. Some of those “passes” looked like they were what you would expect from a Globetrotters game. At least Love… Read more »
The team looked lost but it’s early in the season. It’ll all lock together at some point. And LeBron won’t have games with eight turnovers.
You weren’t even in the arena.. Shutup. Terrible recap man, go make more layup fail videos that aren’t funny.
Hee hee. Go back to Canada, Bieber… or at least L.A.
Blatt needs to do a better coaching job if he wants to remain as a coach, LeBron is human after all. Cavs need to take this as a wake up call and realize that in NBA nothing is given and just because we have a better team that doesn’t mean an automatic win. Go Cavs.
By all means, cue the “fire coach Blatt” narrative a game into the season. Was that a piece of the sky?
You say “Lebron is human after all” which is true but so was Jordan and LBJ is compared to MJ in a lot of ways and he himself probably wants to be compared to MJ when all is said and done but the one thing I can’t shake is when all eyes are on him and he’s the center of attention, MJ lived in the moment and was amazing. When the same happens to Lebron and he knows the eyes of the basketball world will be on him, he kind of usually crumbles. Last night I think he built it… Read more »
I have always believed there is something to this argument. He has had so many HUGE games under HUGE pressure, so its not a simple argument. But, from what I can tell, if he gets off to a slow start in a big spot, he sometimes falls into a vortex of over-thinking.
I think this is the case, too. He’s a basketball genius, and geniuses can have a tendency to get in their own heads, Still, MJ he is not (no one is or will be).