LeBron is Back & Thoughts on the Buckeyes
2015-01-13Honestly, this post is just an excuse to post the above picture of LeBron surrounded by much shorter humans (including Damon Jones, and a man on the left with a glorious mullet). While I’m at it, I’ll share the news that despite being a “game time decision,” tonight, most expect Mr. James to play in Phoenix. I’d be shocked if the King gallivanted around the country with his entourage after two weeks of rehab, and then didn’t play tonight.
#Cavs at Suns: LeBron James expected to return against Suns tonight. Let’s hope he can stay awake. http://t.co/ZFeRbv3SqS
— Bob Finnan (@BobCavsinsider) January 13, 2015
If the goal is to help keep the Cavs from falling below .500, it’s a worthwhile one. At 22-18, Phoenix is a beatable team, and they’ve lost two straight. Perhaps the motivation to come back, tonight, stems from a desire to avoid slaking off the rust against the Lakers on national TV on Thursday. Or maybe ‘Bron just wants to keep this road trip from becoming a total dumpster fire.
Speaking of dumpster fires, quite a few celebratory ones were lit in Columbus, last night. I don’t know if we want to draw too many conclusions on how develop a winning culture from the Buckeyes, but a few things stood out.
Depth:
Ohio State ran the table after the Virginia Tech loss because of their depth at every position, but most especially quarterback. In every realm of team sports these days, teams teams seem to be overcoming lack of “stars” with depth and the ability to adopt a “next man up” mentality. With a few notable exceptions, superhuman stars that are head and shoulders above everyone else in their field are becoming rarer and rarer. What seems to be happening is that successful teams are developing large collections of talented players willing to execute well-designed offensive and defensive systems. They’re making up the individual talent gap by maximizing their collective talent. It’s happening in the NBA, too. The “star era” may be fading.
Teams like the Spurs have shown everyone that you can beat a team like the LeBron era Heat with a superior depth and superior execution for 48 minutes. You may not do it by outscoring the other team with your bench, but if you can wear out the other team’s stars by forcing them to play longer minutes, then you’ve a better chance to win the game. Adam Silver recently threw around the idea of playing 44 minute games in the NBA. The league’s deeper teams that are all atop the NBA standings should be diametrically opposed to that idea: Golden State, Atlanta, Portland… Even teams like Milwaukee, who seem to be punching above their weight, should be opposed to it too. If you look at this data from hoopsstats, you’ll see Milwaukee has one of the NBA’s best benches, along with several other winning teams, and Cleveland has the NBA’s worst.
Rank | Team | G | Min | Pts | Reb | Eff | Deff |
1 | Milwaukee | 39 | 22 | 44 | 17 | 52 | 21.7 |
2 | Indiana | 39 | 20 | 40 | 20 | 46 | 11.3 |
3 | San Antonio | 38 | 20 | 41 | 17 | 46 | 10.4 |
4 | Toronto | 37 | 20 | 40 | 16 | 44 | 10.3 |
5 | Dallas | 38 | 18 | 36 | 13 | 44 | 7.4 |
6 | Boston | 36 | 20 | 39 | 16 | 44 | 6.7 |
7 | Phoenix | 40 | 19 | 44 | 16 | 45 | 5 |
8 | New York | 40 | 21 | 38 | 16 | 42 | 4.5 |
9 | Golden State | 34 | 18 | 34 | 15 | 40 | 3.7 |
10 | L.A.Lakers | 38 | 19 | 38 | 17 | 42 | 3 |
30 | Cleveland | 38 | 16 | 25 | 12 | 28 | -15 |
“Eff” here, is NBA Efficiency recap = ((Points + Rebounds + Assists + Steals + Blocks) – ((Field goals attempts – Field goals made) + (Free throws attempts – Free throws made) + Turnovers)). “Deff” is the efficiency recap difference between Cleveland’s bench and their opponents.
The Cavs are currently suffering from the effects of trying to put together a “big three” in Cleveland at the exact moment we’re all realizing the “big three” model may be unsustainable. The elite teams in the NBA right now look like they eschewed the “big three” concept: you know, three very well payed players, and a collection of players on cheap contracts. One of the ways Ohio state was able to play good defense all year, was by maximizing their defensive line rotation, and using that to keep their players fresh and wear done opposing offensive lines. In the same way, good teams in the NBA are spreading their scoring between five or six players instead of two or three: spreading their attack between their whole starting five, or even down the bench. Golden State has six players averaging 9.9 PPG or more. In the same vein, their depth has allowed them to weather injuries to David Lee and Shaun Livingston without missing a beat. Cleveland’s lack of depth, on the other hand points to a lack of roster foresight, preparation, and poor skills coaching (everyone seems to have lost their ability to shoot).
Leadership:
It’s one of those ephemeral topics that no one can define, but everyone knows when it’s lacking. I’m as wary of anyone about all the B.S. that gets slung around regarding leadership and the “practices of successful organizations,” especially in sports. But The Buckeyes seem to love playing for Urban Meyer. He is detail oriented, everyone seems to know their role, and his team executes the game plan given to them. No one on the team is bigger than the team, and no one on the team is more powerful than the coach. Further, he seems to have an innate ability to inspire his players to improve. In this profile by ESPN’s Chris Low, defensive tackle, Michael Bennett said it best.
He’s someone you believe in because he believes in himself, believes in you, believes in his system and what he can do for you as a person… The thing he does better than anybody is getting guys to buy in no matter what’s happening anywhere else or what that player has or hasn’t done in the past.
In David Blatt, the Cavs seem to have the anti-Meyer. Part of this comes from the perception that Blatt’s not in charge. LeBron has more power and more control over this team than David Blatt, David Griffin, and even Dan Gilbert. Heck, Kevin Love’s leverage has allowed him to have more power than those guys. Right now, David doesn’t seem to believe in himself, and he is not getting guys to buy in. Additionally, his and his team’s lack of attention to detail is glaring. It may be my imagination, but the Cavs seem to lead the league in turnovers out of timeout plays. The players don’t believe in themselves either. Almost everyone on this team is shooting close to career lows.
Mike D’Antoni got a lot criticism in his career, but he always seemed to make guys perform better than they had anywhere else. Part of it was his system, but part of it was his ability to inspire confidence in his players’ offensive abilities. In watching the Lakers complete destruction this year, we’re seeing what a great job D’Antoni did last year of maximizing his team’s talent. For whatever reason, David hasn’t connected at this level with his players.
Maybe it’s lack of NBA knowledge. Maybe Blatt’s in over his head. Maybe it’s LeBron. Maybe it’s Kyrie, but no one on the floor seems to be embracing David’s leadership. The Cavs aren’t going to win until it happens. Hopefully, LeBron will take some leadership notes from the Buckeyes championship and get his team to rally behind coach Blatt. If he doesn’t, it’s time for the Cavs to find another coach — one the players respect.
Expectations:
Clearly, the Buckeyes thrived in an underdog role. They were favored to beat neither ‘Bama nor Oregon. Teams are thriving in an underdog role against Cleveland. Cleveland seems to get a Buckeye level inspirational performance from their opponent on a nightly basis. There’s only one way to beat this trend. The Cavs must lose so many games that they all but eliminate themselves from the playoffs, and everyone counts them out. Just when it seems like things can’t get any darker, they’ll turn it around, make a run for the eighth seed, and barnstorm their way through the playoffs…
Eh, that might not be a good plan. How about they just start playing harder?
@ESPNNBA: Cavs are currently 19-19, no team has ever won an NBA championship that’s been at or below .500, 38 games into a season (via @EliasSports).
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And a 3rd string QB, only playing 3 games has never won a Nat’l Championship… So what?
Probability theory would suggest that the more improbable an event the less probable the relative frequency, so it is probably less likely the Cavs can do something that has never been done right after Ohio State just did something that has never been done.
Nate you always write such intriguing pieces, and yet you make a lot of assumptions to reach your conclusions. I guess that’s blogging and journalism…but concluding Blatt’s doesn’t inrspire his players ignores a lot of history
@IAmDPick: LeBron’s comeback message: “I’m so excited. It’s been too long. I apologize.”
@IAmDPick: LeBron said his return tonight matches level of excitement of his NBA rookie debut in 2003.
Well if that means he’s pumped then I’ll take it.
“And I hated the fact that we were playing some pretty decent ball when I went out and we just dropped a lot of games when I was out. Hopefully I can get back tonight or very soon and we can start getting back on our winning ways.” I hope LBJ is just being upbeat, given they dropped two out of three before he decided to sit, and got blown out by the Pistons in his last game. He can’t just come back, he has to come back and play with more energy and focus than he was playing with… Read more »
Nate Robinson shipped to Boston for Jameer Nelson. Robinson will reportedly seek a buyout and will be free to join a contender. Contenders rumored to be potentially interested include Clippers and Cavs.
Nice!!! Didn’t know the Cavs were rumored for Robinson. I’d take him. Then we’d have three of the characters from the Uncle Drew Commercials.
Although I shudder at the prospect of a JR and SuperNate backcourt
Well when your picking from the dollar store you can’t really complain.
Sounds like Marion will play also.
@ChrisBHaynes: LeBron James will return to #Cavs starting lineup this evening against Suns after missing last eight games with knee and back pain.
Love the piece until the Blatt section. There is no NBA coach other than Pop who even approaches the kind of clout that even a mid-major NCAA Football coach has with his guys. This is not a fair comparison at all. I understand the point, but the NBA simply doesn’t work that way. Blatt was described exactly like Meyer during his time in Europe. The European basketball scene is far more like the NCAA in that the coaches are the most important pieces and not the players. I am not stating that Blatt has great control of his team at… Read more »
Hmm. I probably didn’t articulate my respect for Blatt enough. I hope it doesn’t come to him being let go. But something hasn’t worked. It would be a sad indictment of the Cavs if it comes to that, but sometimes things just don’t click. One thing that I feel is that Blatt has been too timid and too accomodating when it comes to the Cavs lackluster play. I want to see some fire, and I haven’t seen it.
It has to come from LeBron. If LeBron knows any better he should have his back at least a for the remainder of the season. This will let Blatt know he can be himself and the players will fall in line.
Nice article. At this point, our main hope is that team teams are built for the regular season and not crunch time in the playoffs when the superstars will start really trying.
I think the main thing now is for KLove to make some incremental progress defending and fix his shot. Then we need the bench guys to get some confidence. They gotta start believing in themselves.
Looking forward to tonight’s game.
He’s been scoring and the shot looks a lot better (really since those 3 3s at CHA he’s looked fine). Also thought he defended Boogie well-ish in the post and took charges. He’s average at best there though, although shows flashes of being a decent ground-bound position defender.
It’s interesting that Damon Jones has become a staple of LBJ’s inner circle. Although, every time I see him around, I find myself asking the question “Where’s Boobie?” If I had to put money on a past teammate being adopted into the inner circle it would be him.
I wonder if Damon Jones still has a Chinese shoe deal? He used to come close to kicking other guards in the nads.
Man those shoes were awful. I bought a pair just because I thought they would be a fun thing to have, but they were really uncomfortable and not well made.
Remember the dustup with Boobie and ‘Bron on his second trip back though? It never went away…
http://www.slamonline.com/nba/daniel-gibson-mad-at-lebron-james-comments-about-cavs-teammates/
Think they made nice when Z’s number got retired, but I’m not sure they’re close anymore.
Oh right. I forgot about that. Wonder what Boobie’s doing now? He’s still only 28. Wonder if he can still hit the spot-up three?
Running an AAU team and the world’s most unintentionally funny twitter feed.
http://www.ballermindframe.com/2014/04/01/daniel-booby-gibson-speaks-on-his-future-lebron-his-aau-team-and-more/
Good for him. But the league would still be a better (or at least more interesting) place with him in it.
Interestingly, I think he’s more in Kyrie’s posse now than ‘Bron’s. I remember seeing him in the background of some of Kyrie’s Vine videos. The vibe I got on him was that he just lost his quicks after all the injuries and couldn’t defend. Without that, there’s just not a lot of call for undersized three point specialists.
He couldn’t do any worse than Miller and Jones lately…
Thinking about Boobie Gibson, I revisited the 2006 draft which, as it turns out was a lot better than I remembered. Aside from the train-wrecks at the top like Bargniani, Adam “The Stache” Morrisson, Tyrus Thomas and Shelden Williams, there were a ton of current stars and contributors like LaMarcus Aldridge (3), Brandon Roy (6), Randy Foye (7), Rudy Gay (8), JJ Redick (11), Thabo Sefalosha (13), Rajon Rondo (21), Kyle Lowry (24), Sergio Rodriguez (27) and the amazing value of Paul Milsap at 47. Cavs struck out with Shannon Brown (25), but Boobie was good player value at 42.… Read more »
Interesting draft. Four of the top five were spectacular busts (including Tyrus Thomas, who flamed out badly after his extension). That was the draft where Rudy Gay inexplicably fell to the Grizz and lots of people thought the Celtics got a steal in Rondo (ok, just Bill Simmons, but he was king of the sports world then). I remember thinking Aldridge was the best player, but that Thomas was going to be a superstar.
Turns out Tyrus Thomas was insufferable. My favorite story was when he got to the draft and wondered which NBA official was carrying his bags.
If you had to re-grade it, I think a strong argument could be made for Lowry as the number 2 talent after LMA.
And, yeah, Tyrus “The Virus” was an all-timer head case
Thabo at 13 is kind of horrendous value-wise.He stinks.
He’s been a really nice defensive piece on some really good teams (Bulls, OKC, Atlanta this year). He may not shoot that well, but that dude can defend with the best of them.
Lowry is an interesting guy. Took him quite a while to develop too. Supposedly he’s super combative. Great model for Dion Waiters: when he figures out that at least some people are on his side he could be great.
If they did that draft today it would go:
LA, Gay, Millsap, Lowry, Reddick, Rondo, Farmar, Sefalosha, Foye, Hollins.
I might even put Reddick above Lowry because of the NBA’s depth at point (which is why Gay is No. 2) and the premium on knockdown shooters.
If you had to go by career numbers, then maybe so, but if you were just going by today’s value, I think you’d have to have Lowry higher. His PER is a ridiculous 23.57 (nearly 4 points higher than anyone else but LMA, and two points higher than LMA). He’s averaging 20.5/7.7/4.8 with nearly 2 steals and had similar numbers last year (a little less scoring). There have already been a few pundits calling him the best PG in the EC this year.
Also, I think 4 years of Brandon Roy might be in my top 5 as well. Remember his 08-09 year? He averaged 22/5/5 on 48% shooting and .573 TS. Such a shame about his knees.
Great connection, Nate. The Buckeyes showed incredible resolve this season and I DO think the Cavs can learn from them. One article I read reported on “E+R=O” as a team mantra. Event + Response =Outcome. The team saw two of its Heisman quality QB’s go down, give up an easy opening score to the Ducks and turn the ball over 4 times, but did you see how they responded? Now look at the Cavs when they go down by 10, or give up two easy 3’s in a row, or start falling behind a less talented team. Response? Not pro.… Read more »
I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m getting really sick of “awesome practices.” I want awesome games. And I say this as someone who’s coached, and knows the joy of an awesome practice.
Yeah I completely agree. Blatt has noted a lot of great practices. Myself nor Allen Iverson could care less.
I had an awesome practice this morning at the gym. I hit like 7 threes. Of course, nobody was guarding me… but still.
Really? I need to get back to the gym. I had elbow surgery in the fall, and haven’t gone back. Last time I tried to shoot I could barely make a free throw. I think I need to walk into the Cavs locker room and be like this with regards to coach Blatt.
Thanks for that! I really need to watch Hoosiers again. I used to watch it religiously every year around President’s Day to get me ready for March Madness and the NBA playoffs. Probably haven’t seen it in at least five years though.
Wow. I just found out that Hackman hasn’t worked in ten years. WTF?
http://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/2011/10/bill-murray-had-to-protect-wes-anderson-from-gene-hackman/#ixzz2cjdDMqDB
Hackman needs to coach the Cavs. He can tell them to pull up their pants and acting like an “F-ing” man.
He retired from acting after Welcome To Mooseport. He worked a ton in 2000 and his health suffered. Unfortunately, we’ve likely seen the last of him, Sean Connery and Jack Nicholson on screen.
2001 had two of my faves: Tenebaums and Heist.
I met him briefly on the set of Runaway Jury. Nice guy, but he could be a real curmudgeon when he chose.
Best friends with Robert Duval and Dustin Hoffman. THAT would have been an interesting trio to hang out with in the 60s.
This is exactly what LeBron needs to do. You should impose players faces on this video.
From an ESPN article: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12157222/david-blatt-clarifies-kevin-love-not-max-player-comment?ex_cid=espnapi_public (I like the last sentence from Love) Love said the team understands the transition Blatt is trying to make. “As teammates out there on the floor, we’re all new to each other so we can empathize with kind of what he’s going through,” Love said. “He’s a first-time head coach in this league, so it’s just been a little bit of an adjustment for him. Good thing is, we have a good coaching staff that can help him out. And we’ll just continue to keep fighting with him, and we thought, especially today, if we’re… Read more »
Really insightful piece Nate. I was thinking as I was watching the Buckeyes dominate last night that I never felt their victory was in doubt. Primarily because of what you alluded to with Urban and his team. Even in the face of the early TD by the Ducks and the turnover adversity they had throughout the game, there was a sense of belief that seemed to radiate from this coach and this team. The last time I felt that about another team I root for was with the Cavs during LBJ’s first tenure. It hasn’t happened yet with this latest… Read more »
Thanks. Cleveland needs a good game tonight.
They need a good week as well…
Thank goodness Lebron is back. I expect winning to start happening. And of course Kevin Love will be here next year.
KLove forgoing free agency this summer and is planning to opt in with the Cavs, according to Chris Haynes. Okay so that’s somewhat of a commitment.
I could see that, since his big payday would be in the summer of 2016 when the cap grows exponentially
Here’s the link. Good story from Haynes. I have to say, I think he’s doing a pretty good job as the Cavs reporter for the PD.
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_cavaliers_forward_ke_1.html#incart_river
“Doesn’t plan to opt out” leaves a Grand Canyon’s worth of wiggle room.
Sure, it absolutely does, but when you read the whole article you do get a sense that he’s being sincere. Obviously, things can occur to change his mind between now and then, but he’s never said anything other than he wants to be here long term. Even on a more cynical note, it makes all the sense in the world for him to opt in since so far he’s been more exposed for his weaknesses than he ever was in his years in Minny. Why NOT opt in for one more well paid year, play another year next to LBJ… Read more »
Think it makes more sense to opt out, and do a two year deal with a one year opt out like LeBron did, or something similar — just a little extra security there.
I don’t have the numbers on hand, but would KLove opting in for next season on his current deal make a big difference with Cavs cap flexibility this summer? Or not really
Doubtful. It’s all just how much of a tax bill Gilbert’s going to be paying, at this point.
Just listened to Jason Lloyd from the ABJ on 92.3 regarding Love. He noted that he had heard from several of front offices in the league that KLove was leaving Cleveland after this year. So Lloyd spoke to Love after the GS game, and of course Love saif all the right things. At this point if Love leaves, then he’s a liar.