The Point Four-ward: Keep Streak Alive!
2015-02-04Four things I’m thinking about the NBA and the Cleveland Cavaliers…
1.) Thursday’s game against the Clippers will be a good measuring stick for these Cavs — and it comes at just the right time. The Cavs just played three of the worst teams in the league in the Sixers, Wolves and Kings and, while it would be unfair to say that the team has gotten bored of Avenge-a-palooza 2015, serving steaming piles of roundball comeuppance to a rogues gallery of disheartening losses, finally seeing a team that also plans to be playing deep into May and June (and one looking to avenge its own disheartening loss, a 126-121 Cavs win in L.A. on January 16th) is exactly what the Cavs need to resharpen their focus and keep this winning streak going.
Thus far, the Cavs have had some trouble piling it on against lesser 0pponents. Last Friday against Sacramento, the Cavs managed only 15 points in the fourth quarter, letting the Kings back into a game that should have been well out of reach. The next night in Minnesota, the young Wolves team (sporting the league’s worst defense) were actually leading the Cavs in the second half, before the Cavs defense (still sporting its new car smell) put the strangle hold on in the fourth. Then Monday night, those scrappy Sixers, got within two points in the fourth before Matthew Dellavedova stepped in to blow their candles out.
2.) But am I concerned about the lack of complete domination by the Cavs during this recent stretch? No, not really. Or, at least, not yet.
Nothing I’ve seen against the Kings, Wolves and Sixers reminds me of watching the Cavs of the recent past, where they would get up for good teams, but then relax against bad teams, forgetting the key point that a bad team is exactly what they were, as well.
And there were plenty of bad losses earlier in the season where the team seemed convinced that its wealth of talent would make up for a complete lack of engagement and/or competitiveness.
None of that has seemed to be the case in these past three games. What they’re experiencing now is what it’s like to be targeted. Andrew Wiggins will be going at the Cavs hard for the next decade or so (quick aside: what do you think Wiggins’ career high against the Cavs will be when his career is said and done? Anyone see him sniffing Michael Jordan’s 69?). The Sixers compete (for some reason) and the Kings actually do have some good NBA talent on their roster.
So, what Cavs fans have seen over these past three games is what happens when an underdog goes against a team that’s really clicking: the underdog gets up for the game, keeps it close through three quarters, but just doesn’t have enough to finish it off.
That’s a flipped script on what we’ve come to expect from Cavaliers teams recently, but it’s where the team is now. Thankfully…
3.) Ooo-ooo-ooo, what a little 11-game winning streak can do.
The Cavs woke up Tuesday morning to find their place in the Eastern Conference much closer to what everyone thought it would be like when the season began.
The Bulls have continued their up-and-down season and now sit just half a game ahead of the Cavs in the fourth spot in the East. But home court in the first round of the playoffs isn’t the only thing in the Cavs sights. The team now sits only 3.5 games behind second place Toronto. Washington currently sits in third, a game and a half up on the Cavs. So, a hot finish by the Cavs to their pre-All-Star stretch could very realistically see the team wrest control of the conference’s second best record by the time things break and James and Irving head to NYC.
It would take a mighty swoon by the Hawks to put the conference’s top spot in play, but the conference’s second seed — considering all of the trips, tumbles and falls the Cavs have endured over the first half of the season — would be a huge achievement.
Another bit of context: there are only three teams in the entire league who are more than three games up on the Cavs in the win column: Atlanta, Golden State and Memphis. Their 30 wins are tied with the Spurs and are right behind the Blazers (32), Mavericks (33), Clippers (33) and Rockets (33).
The Cavs have feasted on an easy schedule recently… but that’s what they needed to do and exactly what they weren’t doing earlier in the season. They’re also going to have to continue to separate themselves from all but the very top teams in their much weaker conference in order to baby-step their way back into the championship conversation.
But the Cavs have put themselves in the position to speed into the All-Star break — a break they will have very much earned this year — and then keep their collective foot on the pedal once the games matter more.
4.) A lot of readers have questioned (and, to be honest, I have too) why the Cavs, who could still benefit from plucking a good, young big man from the D-League, were entirely mum on that front even before they traded for Timofey Mozgov. It’s easy to look at what Hassan Whiteside has been doing for the Miami Heat (just under 13 points and 11 boards with 3.4 blocks in 25 minutes a game over his last 10) and assume that there must be a player even remotely comparable to Whiteside out there in the D-League sea just waiting for the right savvy GM to pack up his tackle box and go fishing.
But the reality is that the big-man crop in the D-League is least pulled from, with call-ups usually measuring 6-8 and below. Apart from Whiteside, the only bigs called up this year (per RealGM) have been 6-8 PF JaMychal Green (who I liked when I saw him play for the Spurs summer league unit this past year), 6-9 James McAdoo and 6-10 NBA retread Tyrus Thomas.
Also, look at the teams who called those players up: the Spurs (Green), the Warriors (McAdoo) and the Grizzlies (Thomas). Those teams are three of the top teams in the league, two of which (the Spurs and Grizzlies) have the benefit of years of systemic and roster continuity and the third (the Warriors) has roster continuity and has played like a top two team for most of this year. Even Whiteside was able to walk into a situation with tremendous continuity and definition in Miami.
So, while Cavs fans were all clamoring for help from below, what most of us were missing was this seeming fact of D-League call-ups: you don’t just go to that well without knowing the team you have first. The Sixers and Knicks may have been able to find some good players in the minors this year (Robert Covington and Langston Galloway respectively), but they knew what their teams were. Their teams were a mess.
The Cavs, meanwhile, have only just begun to flash anything resembling a team identity — and you don’t fix a hopeful contender with D-League call-ups. You can augment a contender that way, but you can’t fix one.
New post up, BTW.
Kevin Love is averaging a double-double, and has 27 double-doubles on the year. In the winning streak, he’s had 10+ rebounds in 7 of the 11 games. He’s scoring 17 points per game for the year. I hope that at some point, the Kevin Love storyline starts to focus on how he’s adjusted his approach to fit in with this team and how he’s been able to add value without getting in the way of what his new teammates do well. I am fully convinced that in the pressure-cooker of the playoffs, his unique skillset, experience and hunger are going… Read more »
Windhorst was saying on the RBS that the reason why Wiggins was traded to Minnesota was because he didn’t sign with LRMR. Had he signed with LRMR, Windhorst believes Wiggins would still be a Cavalier.
I took that more as an explanation of why there may be some bad blood between those players/camps. I think that for the Cavs to get Love last off-season, Minny wasn’t taking anything less than Wiggins + _______. I felt like Windy was saying that history probably had more to do with the sense of Wiggins vs. Lebron that game had, vs. just the pure fact that he was traded by the Cavs.
Windhorst is full of it. I don’t see Minny agreeing to the Love deal without Wiggins. And if so, it would have stretched the Cavs thin in terms of pieces to get guys like Moz, Shump, and JR. I like the way this team shook out even if still a bit flawed.
This is dumb. Really dumb. Windhorst is full of crap. Wiggins isn’t on the team becasue we traded him for a superior young player who fits a need for us.
Why do we continue to bring up Windy BS articles here? They’ve been proven to be fictional and are toxic. The only reason to do so would be that we ran out of things to talk about. In those cases, a divisive rumor is better than just waiting until the next game.
That’s probably one reason. He probably wouldn’t have been traded if he were with LRMR.
If Detroit can grab the 8th seed then the Central will be representing well in the playoffs this year with 4 of 5 teams.
Wow! Cavs already picked up a half game on both the Wiz and the Raps tonight without even playing… and it looks like they’re about to be tied with the Bulls as well… Only downside was that it was the Hawks that beat the Wiz… but good to see the gap close with the others…
Cavs are never going to catch the Hawks, don’t be delusional.
Ummm…. what exactly about my post was “delusional”? I don’t think I said anything about catching the Hawks, dude.
“Only downside was that it was the Hawks that beat the Wiz”
Not a downside at all. It’s great if the Hawks can rack up wins against the teams higher than the Cavs in the East standings, because Hawks won’t be caught. You implying that their win total matters to the cave is delusional.
Here’s my comment from earlier in the thread if you bothered to read… EvilGenius says: February 4, 2015 at 2:39 pm While I think the Hawks will get exposed a bit as not quite the team everyone thought they were during the streak, I also don’t think they are catchable with only 32 games left. They’ll definitely lose a few more games now that their strength of schedule gets harder, but they’d have to lose a ton for the Cavs to pass them. But sure, go ahead and call me delusional to show how little you follow the comments on… Read more »
I’m terribly sorry I have something better to do with my life than read every comment on every post. It was incredibly wrong of me to reply to a single comment. When replying, it should be assumed that the replier has read all comments in the history of this blog. If not, why reply? To contradict something ridiculous the other person was saying? No, that’s silly. Because remember kids, they always said something before that (barely) sheds additional light on the current comment.
But obviously you have enough time to harp on one line from a particular post that you mis-interpreted wrongly. Not implying you have to read all comments in the history of the blog. In fact, only implying that maybe you should at least read earlier statements in the particular thread… Shouldn’t be that hard, unless you’re just simply trolling. What I said was neither ridiculous, nor was it delusional. if you’ve spent much time at all reading this blog, even as a casual observer, you’d recognize that I’m probably one of the least delusional posters here. So, that leads me… Read more »
And they don’t need to catch the Hawks until the playoffs…
We actually have the fourth seed now since we have a better record vs the Bulls. Keep climbing up!
It is looking like a possible trifecta tonight with three teams in front of losing. Chicago still has time but not looking good. Keep the momentum going Cavs!
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12280216/lebron-james-come-bench-helps-cleveland-cavaliers Maybe this stuff annoys only me and I realize it’s a slow sports news day, but does the media have to take every single thing Lebron says, twist and turn the context and try to make it into something bigger than it is? Lebron to me was simply trying to convey the positive message “I will do anything to maximize this team’s ability to win” and coming off the bench was just an example of how far he would go. He was in no way (in my view) actually saying this was something anybody was actually contemplating or would… Read more »
It’s a nothing story with a bogus headline. I’ll never understand why headline writing is not held to the same standards of journalistic integrity as the body copy.
Because this is ESPN…..
king james gospel has a proposed trade haywwod and a 2nd rounder for the lakers ed davis / rim protector and wayne ellington curios on what you bloggers think of this trade—-should be a playoff atmosphere at the ” Q ” tomorrow night —go cavs!
I like the players but I thought we got more w the Haywood contract if we wait until the end of the season. If that is the case I say wait to use it.
If we could get that, that would be a steal… I don’t know why LA would do it.
My interpretation may be way off, but Haywood’s expiring contract would mean that the Cavs would have $10MM cap space to spend on a free agent post (or other player) during the off season. Considering that players will be climbing over each other to play in Cleveland, I value that $10MM more than Ed Davis and Wayne Ellington – albeit they would be nice additions.
The Cavs come off the All-Star break with Miami at home then play a twelve game stretch that includes all three Texas teams, Atlanta, Washington, Toronto and Memphis all on the road plus two more road games for a total of nine and Phoenix and Golden State are two of the three at home. That stretch will be very revealing as to what kind of team they have
The theory presented about bringing in a D-League player has some good aspects, but overall I don’t buy it.
You are saying the Cavs have not figured themselves out enough to add a player? They need more continuity first?
Maybe. But my guess is, that if there is somebody who can be a good NBA player down there, any team would be happy to grab him while the grabbing is good. If you wait until your “continuity is good”, he will be gone.
Good story Robert! Clips should be riled up and hungry for a win after the embarrassing blown game to Brooklyn on Monday. Although, Cavs played them tough on their home floor and did it without Love and on the second night of a back-to-back. That was actually the last game that I watched where I felt like the Cavs were vulnerable enough to lose the game. Hopefully, with the couple days off and the full roster available, they can handle anything the Clips throw at them tonight… Cavs are definitely poised to make up even more serious ground before the… Read more »
Oh, he’ll top 40 against the Cavs in his career. Maybe as soon as next season (before the revenge factor fully wears off).
69, though… yeah, that’s asking a bit too much.
Not if the Cavs are playing defense against him like they did in the fourth quarter of that last game… Most of his points came on wide open jumpers in the first half. He’s going to be a good scorer, but not an unstoppable force like Jordan was, or LBJ is when he decides to be…
Only if he moves to the east will Wiggins get that. The probability is too low with the Cavs playing Minnesota just twice a year. Maybe when the Wolves are a finals team in two years though… (I troll).
Wolves will be a finals team when the Browns make it to the SuperBowl… i.e. Never… ;)
Robert, you forgot Quincy Miller as an over 6-foot-8 inch callup. He was considered the best guy in the NBADL, and he’s currently rotting in the mess that is Sacramento. He’s a 6’10” combo forward from Baylor who was the 38th pick in 2012.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/nbdl/players/m/millequ01d.html
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6611/quincy-miller
I saw him, but remembered all of his predraft material saying he was a SF, so I (somewhat artificially?) kept him out of the true “big man” discussion (even though, yes, he happens to be a very big man…).
I figured you might be making that distinction. You’re always one step ahead…
Very much want to avoid the fourth or fifth seed, and having to play a long series against the Bulls (which are always wars), and then go up against a rested Atlanta team after they slice through whatever team sucks least and gets the eighth seed.
I agree. Getting a top 3 seed would be nice – but us on opposite side of bracket of Bulls/Hawks.
i meant to write *put us on opposite side* not *but us on opposite side*
^^^^This exactly… Probably going to have to play Chicago or Atlanta regardless, but would be nice not to have to face the Bulls in the first round. With the lack of playoff experience for Kyrie, KLove, TT and Moz, it would be great to get one series under their belts before going up against the Bulls or Hawks…
If we get 2 or 3 seed, and Bulls end up 4, we wouldn’t have to play Bulls or Hawks until ECF. And we would only play 1 of them at most.
This is the ideal scenario! Tonight looks like we are getting one step closer to that, the trifecta
Thanks for the writeup, enjoyed reading it. The Cavs continue to win in different ways during this streak and I feel like we’re hitting our stride at the right time. I’m not really concerned about if we get to 12, 16, or whatever number, so long as we play consistently on the defensive end and compete for 48 minutes. That’s the mentality that needs to be second nature by the time we get to the playoffs.
The Clippers are in the middle of an eight game road trip. They went into San Antonio and got a win and lost to lowly Brooklyn Monday night. I expect a good game, but the Cavs will be on the same amount of rest at home. A 16 game win streak heading into the all-star break is within reach and the last game will be in Chicago with the stumbling Bulls. The second seed is perfect. Atlanta can have the top seed. Not sure if they’ll really have that much of an edge on their home court and they’ve yet… Read more »
They might be able to get an edge if they call the Atlanta Falcons and ask about pumping in some extra crowd noise :p
I’d say that Sefalosha is an injury of note…
I don’t think losing 5.1 ppg is going to hurt.
Losing his defense will though… it already did against the Pelicans where Gordon and Tyreke both had good shooting nights…
Oh, but I forgot how much of a stat sheet lover you are…
I think they can easily replace him is all I mean. Guys like that are a dime a dozen. Keep the stars and fill in around them with interchangeable talent. That’s the Spurs model for success. That’s what the Cavs are now doing.
Disagree… Thabo was a key to OKC’s defense when he played there, and has brought some stellar perimeter D to the Hawks this year as well. Look how much value the Cavs placed on getting a similar guy in Shumpert… You have to be able to shut down or limit opposing teams on the outside to have success in today’s NBA. All of the teams at the top rely on stretching the floor with three-point shooting. Two guards who have length and play defense like Thabo are actually NOT a dime a dozen…
The Hawks have a tough schedule this month (including the Wizards, Golden State, Memphis, Toronto and Dallas). After going undefeated in January, they could have a losing record in February. It’s still unlikely the Cavs would catch them, but it could get interesting.
I doubt we catch them. We don’t even need to. As long as we make the playoffs it doesn’t matter what seed we are. This team is going to roll through those playoffs in a spectacular way.
I agree as far as catching the Hawks is concerned. If the Cavs can clinch a berth with a higher seeding, then they can rest LeBron. The rest period may cause them to drop a little, but when a rested LeBron comes back for the playoffs, THEN he and the team will have a spectacular run through it!
While I think the Hawks will get exposed a bit as not quite the team everyone thought they were during the streak, I also don’t think they are catchable with only 32 games left. They’ll definitely lose a few more games now that their strength of schedule gets harder, but they’d have to lose a ton for the Cavs to pass them.
The Clippers are really good. It’s going to be a tough game.
The Clippers really are quite good. I think they share a place in the NBA narrative this year with the Cavs, where the talking points tend to only focus on the negative, whatever that may be. Maybe it’s because of the supreme individual talents, or the style of roster/team construction that both teams have as a result (top-heavy, with a heightened value on contributions from specialist role players), but it seems like it’s very trendy to ignore the positives (like win streaks for example) and only hone in on the less-favorable (like “what’s wrong with Kevin Love”)… It’s a weird… Read more »
More simply – of the teams who are legitimate “contenders” this year, the Clips and Cavs seem to get the least amount of purely positive coverage. “This team is really good, and here’s why” kind of stories. I might just be developing a bunker mentality ahead of schedule though.
Clips though, have the league’s biggest Achilles heel: the opposing teams can just play hack-a-DeAndre, take the Clips completely out of their offense, and at worst, DeAndre can go 2-12 like he did the other night. Then they have to take him out, which completely changes their defense.
Dwight plays for the Clippers now?
Haha, yeah.
Clips get a lot of similar treatment to the Cavs on local LA radio this year… A lot of “what’s wrong with this team” narrative earlier in the year…
That’s kind of weird, right? Considering their record, their general health, etc. I mean, with the Cavs it makes slightly more sense… but even so, from where I sit, all things considered, both fan bases should be feeling pretty positive heading toward ASB. I HATED the “LEBRON SAID KEVIN LOVE HAS NO CONFIDENCE!? WHAT UP WITH THAT!?” narrative this week. I think there should be a rule that anytime a locker room soundbite gets played, the question the player was responding to should be played with it. I think that would substantially reduce the potential for spin.
Thanks Robert! I appreciated the comtext of the standings and how few teams are ahead of us. Continuity and consistency of our line ups and rotations is starting to come together. It is still shocking to think about how little this team has been together. With TT, Kyrie and Delly being the only constant. New coaching staff and completely new roster. Great accomplishment, go Cavs!