The Point Four-ward: Delly Roll(ing)?
2015-04-01Four points I’m thinking about the Cleveland Cavaliers…
1.) Matthew Dellavedova may have saved his spot in the rotation with a strong recent six game stretch.
Prior to the trade deadline, the Cavs were known to be looking to shore up their back-up point guard spot. As previously discussed in this column, the Cavs were seriously considering former NBA players then playing in China who would become free agents at the conclusion of the CBA season.
Following an early-season knee injury, Dellavedova was still showing all of the grit and hustle that has made him beloved by each of the last two Cavaliers head coaches. Only now he seemed a step slow(er) and his offense had taken a dip, going from “feisty” to just “showing the occasional twitch.”
Dellavedova has mainly become a spot up shooter this year. 145 of his 257 field goal attempts this year — over 56% of them — have been from beyond the arc. Though he is hitting them at a nearly 40% clip on the year, it has made him a much easier player for opposing teams to defend. The real problem, though, has been that, as the defensive-minded point guard of a defensive-minded bench unit, Dellavedova had become noticeably erratic in his ability to lead a unit that could hold (or stretch) a lead while on the floor.
In the seven games starting on March 1 against the Rockets and continuing through the Spurs game on March 12, Delly’s +/- was like a yo-yo, going for -5, +3, -5, -9, +1, +6, -9… a net -18 over that stretch.
In the six games that followed, though, Delly may have righted the ship. He’s notched a +5, +9, +24, +6, +21 and +11 (per basketball-reference.com). Raw +/- figures are not without the ability to mislead, but they are some easy numbers to back up what I’d been noticing over the past ten days: Dellavedova seems to be playing a lot more like the Dellavedova of last season than, say, the Delly of December 2014 through February 2015. He looks (a quarter-step?) quicker and he’s hitting the wide-open shots he’s seeing a lot of in this offense.
Maybe the he biggest reasons I feel comfortable using his recent +/- hot streak as a barometer, though, is that the +s aren’t just coming in wins, with every – coming in a loss. That +9 was team high in a 14 point loss to the Heat in Miami and that +21 was when he was part of the small ball line-up that turned a close game into a 18-point win against the Milwaukee Bucks.
Of course, he followed up that with a pair of games in the negative column… but, hey, no Cavalier has looked particularly good in the last two.
2.) The fact that this period is also when the Cavs front office would likely be making their final decision on whether or not to roll the dice on a player fresh off playing in China (and, in doing so, likely waive rookie swingman Joe Harris in order to free up a roster spot) probably isn’t a coincidence. Someone around Dellavedova had to tell him that a strong push into the month of April would be the evidence head coach David Blatt — who gushes about his Australian guard at any given chance — would need when arguing Delly’s case to any front office nay-sayers.
Dellavedova’s minutes will get dialed back as the playoffs progress, but if you had to choose a player on this roster not named J.R. Smith who could unexpectedly steal a game or two (though, no, likely not two…) during the Cavs upcoming post-season run, I think it would have to be Dellavedova. And being able to say that with (semi)confidence, makes me feel a lot better about this team.
3.) Oh, and an update for those of you who have journeyed down the Chinese Basketball Association rabbit hole with me the last couple of weeks. Two players with roots in the Cavaliers organization have returned stateside and rejoined the NBA: former Cavalier Lester Hudson signed a 10-day contract with the Los Angeles Clippers, while another former Cavalier, Earl Clark, inked his week-and-a-halfer with the Brooklyn Nets.
Clark, the Cavs’ Ghost of Failed Inbounds Plays Past, wound up playing 11 minutes in the Nets 106-98 victory over the Cavs last Friday night, scoring seven points on 3-5 shooting. Pressed into service after Nets forward Thaddeus Young went down with an injury, the 6-10 big man who former Cavs coach Mike Brown tried to turn into an NBA starting small forward was instrumental off the bench as the Nets pulled off the upset win over the Cavs.
Seeing as how Nets coach Lionel Hollins prizes defense as much as Brown did here, it wouldn’t shock if Clark’s vaunted “length” helps him hang on with the Nets for the remainder of the season. Given their surprising play of late, that could even mean a trip back to the playoffs.
4.) Hudson, meanwhile, got into the Clippers weekend win over the Celtics. He played just over 30 seconds, keeping the rest of his stat line filled with zeros.
Okay… that’s it with the CBA. I promise.
It was just the gift that kept on giving.
Do you know that Duncan has never missed the playoffs.
I did not. But being surrounded by other hall of famers your whole career helps alot.
News Flash! Windhorst is trapped at the bottom of a well!
This can’t be true. How would he have gotten down there in the first place?
He dropped his box of donuts!
He was chasing a meatball that had rolled off his footlong!
How did Blatt beat out Lebron for coach of the month?
^ You win the comment section today!
I actually don’t think that the podcast was nearly as bad as it was made out to be. I mean Yes, most of the stuff was about 11 weeks ago, when the season was on the brink, but there was a lot of stuff that was true. The bench situation was bizarre earlier this year. Remember LeBron pushing Blatt? It still is at times (like when LeBron screamed to put Mozgov out to defend the inbound pass at the end of a game). The bit about LeBron calling plays then Blatt calling them right after was a bit ridiculous, but… Read more »
Except the timing couldn’t be more wrong, suspect or clearly for the sake of unearthing stale takes in a misguided attempt to create sensationalist pablum as the Cavs wind down the last fortnight before the playoffs… It had the vibe of a self-congratulatory mutual backrub by both BS and Windy as if to say “see how right we were back then… we sure know how to get David Blatt’s goat and piss off the fans in Cleveland… bully for us!” Out-dated material aside, the only really egregious thing was BS’s continual ridiculous theories about Love. I get that being a… Read more »
I agree with EG. The Cavs are an incredible BASKETBALL story and Windy and BS did nothing but rehash gossip stories. The other ridiculous part was Windy referencing multiple conversations he allegedly had with LBJ months ago but that he never mentioned until just now. If LBJ told him important stuff that wasn’t off the record, why wouldn’t Windy write about it at the time it happened? And if it was off the record, why is he gossiping about it with Simmons? It made no sense. He was just stirring the pot… and it worked because we are now talking… Read more »
Also, BS did this weird thing at the start – when introducing Windy (who listening to a BS Report about basketball in 2015 doesn’t know who he is?) he sucked up to Windy talking about how he has so much inside info, much more so than when he was a mere mortal reporter not working for ESPN. (1) I don’t think that is true, at least regardng the Cavs and (2) it was kind of a cheap setup to give credence to the trolling they are about to do. I dunno, it rubbed me the wrong way.
Perfectly stated EG! You know Windhorst with his ESPN connections knew damn well Blatt was about to be named Eastern Conference Coach of the Month and he comes out with this narrative that Blatt has lost control of coaching and Lebron is calling ‘All” the plays. There is clearly an agenda here to smear him. Windhorst is NOT a Cavs fan by any stretch of the imagination with the digs on Love, Kyrie , Gilbert ect. He is a Lebron fan no question. BUt even that strange bit Windhorst talked about Lebron’s hiatus and the justified moping remarks didn’t make… Read more »
It’s not really that specific podcast Nate, but it has been kind of adding up for me. He did a BS report with Marc Stein last week where they talked about K-Love and his unhappiness and his body language, etc. Then he talked about it again in his inaugural Ball Don’t Lie. Then Jalen (who I consider a BS proxy at this point) goes on Jalen and Jacoby and “predicts” K-Love will not resign with the Cavs because he is more unhappy than he is letting on. And now another BS Report with Windy mostly rehashing things that are weeks… Read more »
Also, whomever is calling the plays, it’s working and what’s the big deal? Chris Paul calls plays all the time, Nash used to all the time, Magic used to all the time. Other than to clown on Blatt for supposedly trying to parrot plays Lebron calls, what does it matter if a player as great as Lebron calls the plays for his team now and again? Nobody was like “man, that Tony Dungy is a fool” because Peyton Manning called his own plays. I thought it was just mean-spirited gossip. Randy Wittman is 20x less competent than Blatt and he… Read more »
Totally agree. The Cavs are the 2nd half version of what Atlanta and GSW were in the first half. But instead of people appreciating the beauty of their ball, how quickly LBJ has turned the team around, the insane development of Kyrie, JR Smith playing two-way ball, Mozzy turning into a beast, TT maturing, etc., we have people psychoanalyzing Kevin Love’s body langauge and LBJ’s tweets. ITS CRAZY and its a condemnation of BS and Windy as serious basketball analysts. They are so out of touch that they have lost the ability to distinguish “canned national media narrative” from “basketball… Read more »
The Hawks are 16-11 since February, got thoroughly spanked by the West’s top teams and have lost decisively to terrible teams like the Nugs, Sixers and Pistons. If BS and Windy want to do a story about a team whose wheels are actually falling off now, why don’t they talk about the Hawks?
I’m guessing that’s because nobody really cares about the Hawks. I mean, people BARELY care about the Spurs, even though they’re arguably the best team of this era, so a Spurs-style team with no recognizable stars and no track record of playoff success probably isn’t going to be a major draw.
I wonder if there will be repercussions for Windy after this. If I’m a member of the coaching fraternity I’m pretty steamed for the disrespect one of my fellow coaches is getting. 2 other points on the Blatt front: 1) He just won Eastern Conference Coach of the Month (no mention of this on ESPN as yet) 2) I have yet to see him get any credit for Mozgov’s surprising play from the national press. It’s all “this Mozgov guy is so much better than I thought” and they never connect the dots to playing for Blatt. The Windy/Simmons piece… Read more »
Also, does anybody else want to throw Windhorst in Lake Erie for his latest BS reporting?
Come on, I thought we’d gotten past the whole Blatt is Lebron’s lapdog story. Thanks for trying to fan the flames, Windy you dbag…
Is it me or did Delly finish a lot better inside last year?
The floater used to go more, and I even remember some gritty, take-a-hit and-ones.
I feel like his inside game has somehow regressed this year (another similarity to KLove?) which may have a lot to do with how he’s being used in the offensive schemes, too…
Things Delly does well
1. Hustle
2. Help defense
3. Shoot wide open spot up threes
Things Delly does OK
1. Pass
2. Rebound
Things Dellys sucks at
1. Dribbling
2. Any other shot that isn’t a wide open spot up
3. Man to man defense
Delly’s lack of skill in the dribbling/quickness/driving capacity is actually beneficial to us (if looking for the silver lining), because he keeps the ball moving. He rarely has the ball for more than a couple of seconds, and that’s actually something we need more of in this offense. When we destroyed Memphis, everyone passed and passed quickly. It was impressive. When we do that, we’re unbeatable. I’m in no way attributing that game to Delly, but it doesn’t hurt to have a backup on the floor who passes quickly.
I’ll go out on a limb and say that Delly makes this team better, more so than Waiters. If I had to pick between which player to have on the roster right now (and keeping the earlier season trades) in a 1-for-1 swap, I’d take Delly in a heartbeat. His 38% 3pt shooting is something Dion failed to do, even though Dion often had the same spot up looks. While I’ve been down on Delly many times, I’m also a supporter. I’d say he’s a player that makes this team better. Can you upgrade over him? Yes. Will it cost… Read more »
I mostly agree with Cols, but breaking down the dribbling skill, I think Delly does a perfectly fine job of bring the ball up court and making the first pass to start the offense. This is a useful skill for taking some of the mental load off of LeBron and Kyrie. He has made enough of the lobs to TT and Moz to earn some respect. I think he’s a useful role player, good for team chemistry, and great value for the $$$. I think if he can further improve his shooting he can stick in the NBA for a… Read more »
Not only does it take the mental load off, but also a burst of energy every time. If your star players are bring the ball up the floor, the D can put a light press on them and make them work the first half of the way. This adds up over a game.
That’s the most open-minded post you’ve ever made about Delly, Cols… it’s also the most times you’ve allowed yourself to use the word “Delly” in a post…
Wow, Cols. I’m kinda shocked. You’ve come a long way, man. Your assessment of Delly is right on. I think what hurts him in many observer’s eyes, and also going off what Matt was asking about, is that we expect more from the position he plays – shooting guard/point guard. He is supposed to either score points or be an amazing passer. He is neither of those things. Case in point, he’s a better three point shooter, statistically, than Kevin Love and LBJ, and right now, even better than JR Smith and James Jones! Yet we don’t think of him… Read more »
Delly doesn’t suck at dribbling. He dribbles just fine. He’s just not a fancy, break you down one on one dribbler. But who cares? If he “sucked” his turnover rate wouldn’t be so low. As for man-to-man, he’s fine for a guard. He’s not Tony Allen, but he does ok one on one, is a great help guy, and good system guy. He seems to do better with bigger guys than quicker guys, but that’s the NBA. Also, his rebounding is great. I need to look up some FFAPM, but last year he was one of the best guards in… Read more »
He sucks at dribbling. He sucks at man to man. He cannot stay in front of anyone.
Agree, And so does Blatt . Too bad there isn’t a stat on creating 2nd chances because Delly does that too.
So Delly’s recent play has had me intrigued as well. Looking at this stats, one thing that stood out to me is that Delly’s 3 point shooting (both career and this season) is statistically better than K-Love. What’s odd is that I think of Kevin Love as a good three point shooter and Delly as only so-so. One one hand this is a promising stat that suggests that Delly is better than I thought. On the other hand, I must be missing something. Can you advanced analytics guys can explain to me why comparing the players’ numbers is misleading. Granted,… Read more »
I think you probably answered that question for yourself. Delly attempts far fewer 3 pt shots. He has been very good so far in his career, but it’s a very short career with only 300 total attempts. Love has more attempts this season than Delly does in his career. Besides, Love is only hitting 2% fewer treys on the season (36% to 38%), so it’s not like we can say Delly is the better 3 pt shooter, regardless. Also, Kevin Love has never been considered an elite 3 pt shooter. He’s very good for a big man (6’11), but he’s… Read more »
Actually, identical* to his career average (.362 to .362).
Love’s 3pt shooting is more valuable than a guard shooting at the same clip because Love’s ability to his the outside shot draws his man out to the perimeter, freeing up the lane for guards/forwards (like Kyrie and LeBron) to drive.
Also, Delly is easy to defend out there: just run him off the line. He’s a good enough passer that he can usually work the ball to someone for a good shot, but he scores inside at basically the lowest percentage in the NBA, so as long as you can neutralize his passing and his floater, he’s toast. Fortunately he’s good at those two things. Kevin, on the other hand can get to the post, score, pull-up, give and go, etc, if you run him off the line. Love is like a five tool offensive player.
Clearly Love is a better player. Please don’t think that is what I meant. I guess I just thought it was interesting that I feel confident with Love shooting the three, but less so with Delly despite their stats.
One last comment. . . .Delly’s floater? He’s good at that. . . ? Since when?
Glad you’ve noticed the improved play from Delly too, Robert. One of the things the coaches must love about him is how he uses bad games as motivation to improve. He just keeps coming. I’m skeptical over another player over Joe Harris. Not that I’m sold on Joe by any stretch, but I doubt there’s anyone out there who could move the needle much. I’m a bit shocked that the Cavs didn’t go after Jordan Farmar who played for Blatt as recently as 2011 during the lockout. He seemed to have the best pedigree in terms of offense, defense, and… Read more »
Starbury could win two titles in the same season.
But could he score the rare feat of getting a statue erected to him on two continents?
I am pretty sure there’s an effigy statue to him somewhere in Manhattan.
I could absolutely see Marbury having a statue of himself in his house.