Recap: Cavs 106 Grizzlies 76 (Or, The Return of All That is Good)
2015-10-29While preparing to watch the Cavs play their second game of a back-to-back, on the road, against an elite Western Conference Team (that had a beatdown to avenge), I resigned myself to the possibility of a bloodbath when the banged-up and out-of-practice Cavaliers took their aching backs to the Grindhouse. And a bloodbath it was.
It’s always easy to say after a tough shooting night “we had good looks” (which the Cavs did on multiple occasions after the loss to the Bulls). The problem I saw in the Bulls game was that many of the Cavs “good looks” were actually moderately contested jumpers whose origin story included exactly one pass from the top of the key. While some NBA players can survive and a few even thrive on a steady diet of moderately defended perimeter shots – that’s not a formula for success in today’s NBA. Players today are most effective when ball movement (The Spurs/Warriors/Hawks) or dribble penetration (Clippers/Bulls/Rockets) create catch-and-shoot opportunities for role players. The Cavs of last season touted an offense with some supreme individual talent that rarely enabled the kind of rhythm shots that bring role players along for the ride. The November 15th explosion against the Hawks featured more catatonic NBA-Jammishness than balanced execution.
It is my opinion that the 2015-2016 Cavs are an EC Finalist on talent alone. They’re an EC Champion with the stout half-court D and ferocious rebounding displayed last spring. Cleveland will break the 50+year curse if and only if the Cavs can harness the power of their legion of above-average, spot-up 3-point shooters. When Mo Williams becomes Patty Mills, Matthew Dellavedova becomes JJ Barea, Richard Jefferson becomes James Posey, and James Jones continues being James freaking Jones – that’s how we get the monkey of our backs. It’s a real possibility this June. (Coming from the resident pessimist realist of the blog).
With that in mind I paid close attention to the off-ball movement and the nature of the shots the Cavs took. (Again it’s been my prediction that the Cavs would struggle offensively until a month or so after getting everyone healthy). Tonight was just…what a pleasant surprise…
1st Quarter CliffsNotes: The Cavs worked hard on D and kept the Grizzlies off the glass. They were opportunistic on offense. Kevin Love looked strong in the post and spry on the wings. He stole an offensive rebound to earn an easy putback. He also rifled a pass to a galloping LeBron who finished with a dunk in transition. The Cavs also got transition buckets on a LeBron feed to a steamrolling Mozgov and a Richard Jefferson corner 3 on a push from J.R. Smith. The half-court offense was a bit stagnant but to my surprise most of the jump shots were in rhythm even if the overall execution wasn’t Spursian.
There were ugly moments: at one point LeBron took an awkward, jumping-turnaround shot that barely hit anything. With my Standard Definition Cable I actually thought it was TT at first. Mo Williams, Kevin Love, and Delly all jacked up not-terrible/not-optimal triples and canned more than they missed. But again, I would say that their looks were “in rhythm”. At the other end, the Grizzlies played like they expected half-court offense to be easy. It wasn’t. They compounded lazy, iso-heavy offense with a lack of off-ball movement and almost no second chance opportunities. Their shots were very “out of rhythm”. The Cavs led 26-10 after one.
Like last night, Jefferson for @KingJames is #Cavs first sub; And just like last year, @kevinlove off to great start v. MEM – 5pts, 7reb.
— Joe Gabriele (@CavsJoeG) October 29, 2015
2nd Quarter: The Grizzlies scored exactly 15 points through the first 17 minutes of the game. Kevin Love backed down Tony Allen with authority and flipped in a hook shot as Allen shoved him (seen in the headline picture). The Cavs’ defensive activity and toughness was on display, but the Grizzlies just stunk up the joint too.
My one gripe with David Blatt tonight was that he chose not to call a timeout during a sequence when the Cavs offense had become stagnant and the Grizzlies had finally broken the seal and scored on three straight possession. I’m pretty sure Mo Williams expected a timeout, based on his body language as he crossed half-court. But none was called and the Cavs settled for a terrible LeBron fall-away as the shot clock winded down. The Grizzlies ramped up their energy and Tony Allen stole a rebound out of Kevin Love’s hands and converted a layup. Obviously it didn’t affect the outcome, but if there is one criticism of Blatt backed by some hard evidence, it’s his sub-optimal use of timeouts.
Out of the timeout, J.R. Smith gave the Cavs a shot in the arm. He chased down an offensive rebound which resulted in a Mo Williams triple. Then he assisted on a Mozgov soft-slam before burying his own high-degree-of-difficulty jumper. (Larry Hughes owned the PUJIT, J.R. Smith gets the HiDoD). At this point I thought the Cavs defense showed some holes, and it was more about the Grizzlies playing like crap than the Cavs tightening the screws. Tony Allen tried dribbling left-handed on a two-on-one fast break which resulted in him losing the ball out of bounds. Mike Conley Jr. missed a wide open 3 from the right corner (same spot and same result as against the Warriors in the Semi-Finals). The Cavs took a 53-32 lead into halftime despite a quiet half from LeBron.
Fun half to watch, Kevin Love's looking pretty comfortable out there
— Brendan Bowers (@BowersCLE) October 29, 2015
3rd Quarter: The first half wasn’t a fluke. The Grizzlies built a Ziggurat tonight. It’s almost not worth commenting on how good the Cavs D was or wasn’t because the situation didn’t dictate the result – everything the Grizzlies threw up clanked off the front iron. Unless they painted that rim with fighter jet paint, it’s going to need to be touched up.
The Cavs put the Grizzlies to bed in the third quarter with some exceptional point guard play from Mo Williams (the first six minutes) and MattyDice (the back half). Both of Kyrie Irving’s backups flashed some scoring swagger while keeping the offense dynamic and rewarding teammates for moving. One of the coolest offensive sequences of the night started and ended with Delly at the top of the key. But sandwiched in between Delly signaling a play to teammates and sticking a rhythm 3 was a helluvadova’of ball movement. And in case I forget to mention it later – J.R. Smith has become a BASTIAN of unselfishness.
4th Quarter: Hey, didn’t Preseason end?! I’m sorry I flipped on Spurs/Thunder. I heard Jared Cunningham did some cool things. About Cunningham, I think he really fits this team. They need more athleticism and Cunningham attacks the basket pretty well. He looked good again tonight.
I’m with Robert-> I love how the Cavs can really only make me feel good things right now. I wash down my pre Jan-15th losses with a nice tall glass of of confident expectations (thanks to commenter, Cols) and yet I am giddy like a kid-on-the-last-day-of-school when they do great things.
https://vine.co/v/eYFv6P21LWt
Here’s a fun #hottake in lieu of 4th quarter box score analysis – when the Cavs “empty their bench” they may not be fated to a minus 60/48 point differential like last season.
They're playing the 'Six Feet Under' theme song here at FedEx Forum with the Cavs up by 30 in the 4th. That's one way to wave the white flag
— Dave McMenamin (@mcten) October 29, 2015
Final Thoughts:
The Cavs put a good ol’ fashioned whoopin’ on the Grizzlies tonight. The only guy from Memphis that could hit an outside shot was a fan that buried a half-court shot to win…a lifetime supply of Tater Tots???
While the beatdown was a bit surprising, it’s way too early in the season to take stock in box scores. Weird things happen early in the season. The Cavs could lay an egg against the Heat in two days and it won’t mean much. The Bucks and Rockets both got blown outta their own arenas tonight by the Knicks and Nuggets, who may not combine to win 50 games this season. That said, eight Cavaliers scored at least nine points! There are meaningful take aways, and if I had to find a thread that ties them all together it’s in the title. So what “returned” tonight?
1.) The Return of the Herculoids? The question mark is intentionally there as a hedge but I loved what I saw tonight when Delly, Andy, and Richard Jefferson shared the court. No surprise, their plus/minuses respectfully: +29, +17, and +19 (in 18, 11, and 18 minutes no less!). RJ flashed some impressive court vision tonight. Andy has always had a Herculoid heart – he moves without the ball about as well as #peak Luke Walton.
If this is sustained, do we call them the “New Herculoids”? How about “Space Stars” because they are so good at moving to the open spots in space? With the full might of the C:tB community we can make this a thing you guys.
2.) The Return of Delly Making me Swoon – Delly’s become a folk hero in Cleveland for one reason. He continues to surpass our expectations. Few expected him to make the roster in 2013. Few expected that almost-comeback against the Wizards where he single-handedly locked down Bradley Beal and almost stole the game back for the Cavs. Few expected him to be a viable point guard given his unconventional style and apparent lack of talent. NO ONE expected what he pulled off in the playoffs. He became a Cleveland cult hero for his legendary closeout game against the Bulls. He became a household name for his performance against Steph Curry. Well, based on tonight, he’s not done surprising us. I saw three things from Delly tonight that were unexpected.
- His release is quicker on 3s.
- He attempted (and converted) a contested 1v1 fastbreak layup by going underneath and finishing with his left hand. (First time Delly has ever made a layup off the correct foot!)
- And finally, something that may have gone unnoticed to some fans, Delly appeared to be a much more confident ball handler.
Early in the game, Mike Conley Jr. applied some heavy full-court pressure. Delly never turned his back, paused, picked up his dribble, or even looked for help. His handle looked tighter than I’ve ever seen it. He went through his legs and started to blow by Conley who had to recover. Then Delly crossed over, approached the top of the key, and called out the play. As someone that has Damon Jones’ leg kick burned into my memories – I appreciate the little things, like being able to competently handle point guard duties. More than just bringing the ball up the court, the improved handle allowed Delly to create space with his dribble to make passes that he otherwise would have trouble making. Remember last year how Delly would make 3 or 4 awesome plays in a row and then remind us of his limitations by trying to throw that cross court pass to the left corner? The one that got picked off ALL THE TIME. It’s because he saw an opening but had to wait until he dribbled forward to create some space to jump and make the pass.
Tonight I saw him do things I’ve never seen him do with the ball in his hands and it created the space he needed to run a creative offense. Old Delly would just fire chest passes to the next closest guy on the wing and then sprint around the court trying to set picks and stuff. It was endearing but ultimately limiting, especially when Delly’s minutes started getting ratcheted up. Maybe the “playmaking” drop off won’t be so severe now.
3.) The Return of Kevin Love – Story of the game. K Love splashing 3s, establishing himself on the block, protecting the glass, firing the outlets, and looking like the most skilled big man on the court (which featured Zach Randolph). Thirteen rebounds in under 30 minutes? That’s the gaudy K Love stat line that carried my fantasy team in 2013. Return of his floor game, anyway. Seriously how is this the same person?
4.) The Return of the Wild Thing – I saw limited preseason and thought: “Andy looks spry!” That has only been reinforced by the first two games of the season. He looks quick, he keeps the ball moving on offense, and he’s grabbing rebounds (five in just 11 minutes tonight).
5.) The Return of Good J.R. Smith – Unselfish to the point of bouncing great passes off unsuspecting teammates, committed to defense, providing that occasional bail out HiDoD jumper. As J.R.’s ability to get the rack wanes it’s important that he hone his floor game and keep out of trouble. So far so good. Interesting that the NBA rescinded his tech against the Bulls. That was a turning point in the game. I thought the refs screwed the Cavs with the call and the tech – at least they admitted the tech was unwarranted. J.R. turns away in disbelief but he didn’t appear to “show up” any official and he certainly didn’t seek out a confrontation.
6.) The Return of the GOOSIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was secretly hoping that Mo would bring back the Goosie and that the Cavs would go back to the fun-loving antics of 2008. Those days may be over, and maybe it’s just going to be Mo’s thing, not a team-wide phenomenon. Still, when he flashed it tonight, it brought back all the nostalgia. AC and Fred loved it. In a more symbolic sense, Mo Williams has brought an element of the 2008-2009 Cavs back to this team. I think we have all underestimated how effective of a playmaking point guard he is. We remember how apocalyptically bad he was in 2011 and assumed that was the start of a precipitous drop off. The dude can still play.
He had five dimes to just two turnovers and stuck 3/6 triples. More than that, his demeanor is just so intoxicating on offense. He’s very purposeful. While he’s never been the most effective point guard, he loves to push the tempo, loves to drive baseline (a lost art), loves to jack up the occasional pull-up jumper (one of the few guys in the league that you’re OK with taking mid-range Js), and he’s just a fun player to watch to boot. The 2008-2009 Cavs won 16 more games than the 2007-2008 Cavs and Mo Williams was a huge part of that. He knows how to play with LeBron and he is exactly what the Cavs needed out of a bargain Vet – can run an offense and stick outside shots. I’m really glad Mo’s back.
Here’s something we saw tonight that isn’t “The Return of” anything EVER: The Cavs dominated start to finish in a game where LeBron played poorly. His shooting line of 30/0/50 % was awful. Discounting his rookie season, LeBron has only had 17 games (reg season and playoffs) where he failed to score more than 12 points.
If you haven’t read Nate’s Cavalier missive on the Cavs, well, you should – it’s phenomenal. His bit on LBJ is spot on:
For the first time in your career, for your team to be truly great, there are going to be times you need to defer. I know, I know. That sounds crazy. But for this to work – long term – Kyrie and Kevin are going to have to be your equal at times – in the playoffs especially.
Managing your effort is going to be your biggest challenge. The team feeds off you. Coasting to start the season, like last year’s 19-20? That’s tough to come back from. I’d rather 28 minutes of fired up LeBron rather than 40 minutes of a tired King. Figure out the minutes expectation and how to pace yourself for bursts of excellence throughout the season. Remember, everyone feeds off you. When your effort is down and your body language is negative, so is your team’s. I know it’s hard to be “up” all the time. That’s part of why you need other guys to take up the leadership mantle. They’ll pick you up and pick the team up when you need help. You’re going to have to trust them.
LeBron didn’t play well tonight but his body language and approach were fine. He actually had a handful of steals that led to run outs. Thanks to the nature of the Cavs blowout he only had to play 31 minutes. The Cavs don’t need to ride LeBron until the playoffs. He can play himself into shape – let’s just hope he breaks out of his shooting slump (that’s he has essentially had since returning to Cleveland).
It’s time to have fun.
A lot of people making a stink over LeBron’s back. How much of this is the media nit having enough to talk about and how much is it a real red flag?
Media just finding reasons to challenge the Cavs. They blew the Grizzlies out, handing them their worst loos in seven or eight years and it’s barely mentioned.
If it was serious, Lebron would not be playing right now.
With TT signed and Love playing well to start the season, their choices for juicy clickbait rumors… er, stories are limited to LBJ’s back or debating when Kyrie will return…
Windhorst qualified his story so heavily (‘Of course, LeBron has been dealing with this for the past decade’) that it was clear he doesn’t know if it’s serious.
If you have any back issue, even something relatively minor, the NBA has to be a tough environment. On top of the pounding from games and practices, all the sitting on benches, airplanes and buses can be a killer. So it’s not surprising to see LeBron and the Cavs going to great lengths to take care of his back.
Larry Bird’s career was greatly curtailed by his back problems. I can’t help but be concerned. I think the LeBron we know might not have much longer. I sure hope not, of course, but how can you not take the sight of him lying down on bench in the FIRST GAME seriously?
That’s the reason why everyone is so concerned about LeBron’s back; because we saw what happened to Larry Bird.
Different player. Different point in medical technology. Different team around him to take the scoring load off.
Lebron can sit whenever he wants to rest his back and we’d be ok. I’m not worried about it unless he needs back surgery.. then I’d be really worried.
I really feel for him. In high school, I dealt with regular back spasms and it was horrible, especially playing basketball. They say that men remember back pain as bad as women remember childbirth. Keep in mind, that is only the MEMORY of the pain, not the actual pain, in case any women out there are reading this. . .
Kind of a late comment on a game from two nights ago, but has anyone noticed that it looked like LBJ deferred more to Mo to bring the ball up than Kyrie in the past?
Yeah I noticed it. Team deferred to Delly too
Cavs will beat the living crap out of the Heat today
With Josh Smith now on the team, Doc might run out of big men who can actually make a free throw during the obligatory hack-a-whoever section of each game…
The Clippers are really easy to hate.
From the coach on down…
And above that level too. I always thought of Steve Balmer as a real-world equivalent of Baron Harkonnen. When he bought the Clippers, it seemed a perfect fit.
This has to be the first ‘Dune’ reference on C:tB right?
Lol, DeAndre Jordan is such a tool.
Great ten min of entertainment if your interested. Watch the condensed version of the game last night on NBA tv. It is basically the cavs highlights w grizzly announcers, awesome. So fired up for this season
Cavs… the new must see TV…
That Bulls game had a 100% higher rating than the Cavs ultra-hype over-the-top “Welcome Home LeBron” home opener/party from last year? I find that hard to believe?
Why would they lie?
Nobody wanted to watch the Knicks play,lol
That refers to last night’s game. The Bulls game was on TNT.
Yeah, they were just referring to the first Fox Sports Ohio game
It still amazes me that somehow Griff turned this bench bunch:
Mike Miller, Shawn Marion, Brendan Haywood, Lou Amundsen and Will Cherry
Into this bench bunch:
Mo Williams, Richard Jefferson, AV (was a starter), Sasha Kaun and Jared Cunningham
In the same way that he turned Dion into three rotation players last year. It will seriously be a crime if Griff doesn’t win GM of the year one of these years…
We had Kirk too. Don’t forget Delly was out on injury which discombobulated Dion into the “Land of the Lost” . The bench was a nightmare.
Now I think about it. Delly was lost too after Dion left. I’m not quite sure when he turned a corner & figured it out. Probably after Shump was cleared to play & they began to form a defensive duo.
I think it just took time for his knee injury to heal. For a guy whose game is predicated mainly on hustle, not having your knee be 100% is a killer…
That is correct. Delly was injured at the start of the season.
It really is impressive. The bench this year is championship caliber, imo. Last year, it was mostly an anchor.
It’s crazy to think how Cavs went through ten-day contracts for so much of last year trying to find a back up for Kyrie. Then this off-season there was noise in the media that they needed to find a back up in free agency and once they signed Mo, how that was a great addition. This whole time Delly was right there getting better every week.
And now, boom. Point guard is their deepest position.
So glad this is the case because the last thing we want is to have to rely on Kyrie for heavy minutes after knee surgery. Nurse his return so he is his prime come June.
Same thing with Shump and Lebron not having to have big minutes because we have J.R. and Jefferson. RJ has really been great these first two games.
Agreed. So many more options
Mot ridiculous comment of the day on 1390 Am (Sports Animal) They just blamed Blatt for JR’s technical. “He’s suppose to know when JR is going to go off & yank him” WHAT?? SO now Blatt must be psychic? It wasn’t like there were clues here. Why say anything? It was rescinded.
If Blatt was responsible for that, guess he’d have to glue JR to the bench. But apparently JR said nothing out of line, so it’s a non issue. Well, other than the call costing the Cavs in the game.
Yeah, that is pretty ridiculous. There are things Blatt can still improve upon, but preventing players from getting technicals isn’t one of them… Just silly…
Is J.R.’s line last night of 9 pts, 7 boards and 7 assists the closest he’s ever come to a triple double?
Bringing more to his game is awesome, even tho he was supposed toe be my 3 pt chucker on my fantasy I am digging the all around contributions.
Does DWade’s hat translate as “Still in Miami… Pray for me”?
Another ESPN analyst I can’t stand. Mike Wallace is depressed that the Heat Index is no longer popular.
Wallace still has a shot of LeBron’s torso as his Twitter home page visual…
Loved the recap. Me and you see through the same realist eyes when it comes to the cavs Mo Gotti is perfect for this team. Can’t say I was one of the ones who had low expectations for him staring in place of Kyrie. Seeing what he did in Minnesota and almost pushing Charlotte to the playoffs last year. A smooth player who knows how to set up the offense and create for his own shot is great as the compliment to the improved but still limited Delly. There are a thousand NBA players who I cringe to when they… Read more »
Let’s not forget WHO the bench was a year ago. Haywood, Kirk, Amundson, Marion , Miller, Harris, hurt Delly and a lost Dion. Just kinda flash that in our memory. Painful like Welder’s Flash.
The NBA has rescinded JR’s tech.
@ChrisBHaynes: Why J.R. Smith can’t say a word https://t.co/LHnnMS2Nfl
I meant, “the Mo Gotti of young.”
I was happy when Mo Gotti re-signed with the Cavs, but was concerned about his age. Would this be the year he might fall off the cliff. After watching him in the two regular season games, I think that won’t be a problem. We got the Mo Gotti of old. What a pleasant surprise!
Lebron should take the next two weeks off, we got this.
Let’s start LeBron sometime around middle of December. Give him a couple weeks to fall in with the team, come January. . . Fresh LeBron runs train on the league.
Amin Elhassan is trolling the Cavs, as he picks the Heat to win the East. Never liked this guy. He looks like he should be in high school.
Prime example of a journalist wanting to be the story…
He’s no Hunter S. Thompson, but he’s clearly smoking something.
it is painful when journalists feel the need to troll just to feed the 24 hr news machine.
The Heat have interesting team.
I guess we’ll see how deep (or not) they are tomorrow night…
Their starters had to play +30mins for that win yesterday. Didn’t see much of a bench other than this Gerald Green dude. He’s a 6’7″ body that can shoot 3’s. Does anyone else know anything more about him?
High flying first round pick of the Celtics. Completely dropped out of the league and played his way back. Hooked on with Phoenix for a few years. He is a fantastic athlete who can shoot, but, um, not the brightest bulb in the fixture.
Here was his defining moment in the NBA prior to this season…
Ha Ha I remember that cupcake dunk. Didn’t remember it was him. Thanks for that video!
He was completely robbed in that dunk contest. When he did it in real-time, it looked like the cupcake just sort of blew out from the motion of the dunk, but when you so the slo-mo, you could see what an amazing dunk it was. Then Dwight stepped up dressed in a Superman cape and threw the ball in from the middle of the key when he saw he was going to come up short on his foul-line dunk. Somehow that won instead.
The first team in the East to win 12 games in the playoffs will probably go to the Finals.
I was told there would be no math…
Sometimes you guys really make me chuckle.
He can be really annoying. The very stereotype of the cocky, former front office guy who works in the media.
Yeah. I really don’t like him. I listen to his pod to see how much info I can get, but he has such an obnoxious personality. His “hate hard” stuff is both telling and boring.
Elhassan is probably my least favorite ESPN employee. I listened to some of his pods previewing last year’s Finals and not only was he being totally unprofessional (he started off the pod by letting you know how hungover he was (“uhh I’m so young and edgy I can just talk like a frat bro on these podcasts cuz I’m so smart and worked in an NBA FO”)) — he and these other guys were literally laughing at the notion the Cavs could win the series, saying things like “I really wouldn’t be surprised if this was a sweep,” like not… Read more »
It’s interesting that Kyrie being out for a little while to start the season has put the focus on LeBron helping put KLove in the driver’s seat on offense. Don’t know if that’s as easily accomplished without this scenario. Not saying that they don’t need Kyrie to get it working, but it’s kind of cool that they can build a strong foundation with the focus on Love, and then bring Kyrie back into the mix for added devastation later on…
So we’ve always heard how LeBron has a high basketball IQ. But it strikes me that he has never been part of a fluid offense – even his assists are off ISOs. This is by far the most talented and deep team he’s ever been on – he’s going to have to learn to fit into the offense in order to maximize the potential of this team. And I’m not totally sure that he’s capable of doing it (or willing, at least).
So he’s going to have to fit in…not fit out?
LOL – play of the day!
IMHO I think he will adapt fine if his natural game doesn’t cut it this year. His passing game late in the last season as injuries mounted was superb, bringing the ‘next men up” into the game as well as could possibly be achieved.
Correct!! Haha
Haha…great comment. It’s interesting that while Lebron was only in for 31 minutes, the only reason he stayed in that long was that he had not reached double-figures in points and his 640+ game streak was on the line. He stayed in until he added some free throws, then they pulled him right away. Says a lot about how deep this team is.
What??!!!! Miami had the most fluid offense in the league after their first year. They basically inivented the modern NBA pace and space offense of threes and layups.
Perhaps I’m misremembering.
You are. Because the Spurs Finals became LeBron against the world when the rest of his team fell apart. But before that there were articles written about how the ball moves so much in Miami’s offense from the MAvericks seriies on. I think I remember a good Grantland one in particular.
By “practically invented” he means “copied Don Nelson.”
Spo is really good at copying. He’s the Frank Caliendo of NBA coaches…
steal like an artist is the new hipster trend. when will the league get someone who can steal rik smits, mark eaton and chuck nevitt’s body of work? seriously though, i think nelson would be flattered his legacy had that effect. his free throw shooting though will never be stolen
I kind of think is comments about Love being the focal point is his way of adjusting and utilizing the talent of this amazing team. I think he is willing to do just about anything to win a champoinship or many for Cleveland
LeBron overdribbles and brings the offense to a halt when he faces up. He will need to work on how to be effective off the ball. Sometimes it feels like he flip flops between being the center of the Cavs offensive universe (drawing all the attention and letting the defense load up) and hanging so far away from the play as to be ignored completely.
Hopefully we see more Krakens with Mo driving baseline.
Totally with you Raff. LeBron does not have a high basketball IQ. He just doesn’t. If he did, he would have actually run the plays that got us up by 27 with 7 min left in Q2. Simple We all know that the greatness of LeBron comes with his polarizing ego. Part of it is telling me he doesn’t want to face the fact that he’s simply not the player he once was. I seriously wish LeBron would actually run the offense how it’s supposed to, seriously just once. If he’s so smart he would know it would save him… Read more »
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but saying that LeBron doesn’t have a high basketball IQ is just wrong…
Yea, I know EG, that was probably disrespectful. I didn’t really mean it quite so harshly. Lebrons court vision and passing ability is generational, obviously. I just really, really, really wish that he would abandon his post ups from 2 ft inside the 3pt line that end up in contested long two bricks and run Blatts offense. He’s smart enough to know that his isolations are bad shots, yet he still does it. I can’t really love a guy for hogging the ball and taking bad shots while the rest of the team is flowing, whether it’s LeBron James or… Read more »
Yeah, LBJ has a very high basketball IQ. He is a basketball savant. You don’t get as good as he is just by being incredibly athletic. His passing is some of the best in the NBA, and certainly for a non point guard. He is going to have to adjust his game because he can’t dominate the way he did at 25, but his IQ is off the charts.
COLS YOU ARE SCARING ME WITH THAT LAST POST / STATEMENT (HA-HA )—-LAST YEAR WE WERE DEBATING THE LOVE TRADE—1YR LATER LOVE LOOKS VERY CONFORTABLE/ CONFIDENT READY TO RETURN TO ALLSTAR FORM—MEANWHILE GDB WILL PROBABLY BE PLAYING EURO BALL SOON AND WIGGINS IS SOMEWHAT STRUGGLING IN HIS 2ND YEAR —THINK WE DID OK IN THAT TRADE
Once KLove re-signed on the first day he could this summer, I think the stake was finally driven into the heart of the whole Love/Wiggins argument. Wig will still be a good defensive player (he did a great job on Kobe last night) but Love has been and will continue to be a perennial all-star.
The stake was driven in for me the instant we traded for Love. I knew he’d resign because there was no other way that the Cavs would’ve traded for him. Everyone else just bought into the nonsense.
Also, Wiggins still isn’t good.
Maybe it was for you as the “all-knowing Cols” but until he signed on the dotted line, there would always be at least a modicum of doubt. Now that he has, the argument is well and truly moot…
There was never any doubt.
You are not the only person in the world… ;)
I’m glad he didn’t resign. I’m glad he re-signed.
Me too. Could you imagine him quitting basketball rather than “fit in” with the Cavs?
NOMAD I love the energy! Nobody capitalizes on a point like you
Here’s an awesome stat from last night’s game that speaks volumes…
Cleveland bench – 98 minutes, 50 points
Memphis starters – 141 minutes, 47 points
Having Jefferson as backup SF and Mo as backup PG (once Irving gets back) will do wonders here. Last year we were essentially without a backup PG, and a backup SF.
Plus this allows Delly to play a more natural SG position and with his new focus on being in shape, Delly looks quicker.
As down as I was on RJ when they signed him, I have to admit he’s looked really good… and gives the Cavs what they desperately needed last year in a viable backup for LBJ… Happy to be wrong about him thus far…
Absolutely. When Shump comes back, JR will likely return to the bench making this a completely reserve unit: Delly JR RJ TT Andy It was an absolutely destructive second unit. I like Mo well enough, and he can play with Delly at times, but the lineup above is so amazingly active on defense. JR has continued to be an incredibly unselfish player moving the ball beautifully to the next guy. RJ will probably not look this awesome for the whole season, but if he continues to give even 80% of what he has thus far, the second unit is in… Read more »
Bravo to Blatt. All our bench success tells you that his offense, when run properly, can be destructive. Having willing and smart passers like Mo, Delly, RJ, and Andy is SO HUGE. I’m convince we could have won by 50 if LeBron would had gotten rid of his signature isolation contested long two bricks
You mean “The Larry Hughes Two”?
Great interview with Griff from Pluto posted this morning…
http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2015/10/cleveland_cavaliers_general_ma_1.html
That was a good interview. One of the best things about Griffin is the way he doesn’t leak crap to the media, or get into fights with players or agents in that manner. It’s refreshing.
As an aside, if anyone hasn’t read Pluto’s “Loose Balls”, definitely pick it up, it’s a gem.
Is it just me, or does Kevin Love have a little Napoleon Dynamite thing going on with his hair?
I like it, I think he looks hot.
Put down the pipe, Cols.
Insert JR joke here……
Love to see this Love sentiment coming from LBJ…
It would not shock me if KLove averaged more assists per game than Kyrie this year. Dude is such a good passer for a big man and when he’s canning triples, pump faking Tony Allen into the stands, and hitting his post flip shots, he’s unguardable.
Hell yea. That and-one against Allen made me jump out of my chair. When we feed him regularly in his spots, keep him engaged and make him comfortable , he can easily be best all around offensive PF in the NBA
In his post-game interview LBJ said that Love was their number one offensive focus this season. It was one of the favorite things I’ve ever heard LeBron say.
BURP !!! THAT WAS FROM ALL THE GRIZZ BURGERS I HAD LAST NIGHT—GREAT RECAP FROM A GREAT GAME —IF DELLY PLAYS LIKE THIS THE ENTIRE SEASON A HUGE ( JUSTIFIED /UNLIKE SOME OTHER PLAYER ) WILL BE HEADED HIS WAY —BELIEVE I MENTIONED IN PRE SEASON– MDN WILL BE ABLE TO HELP THE CAVS IN CERTAIN MINUTES / ROTATIONS (BELIEVE HE IS ALSO GAINING MORE CONFIDENCE WITH EACH GAME / AND BELIEVE HE HAS FINALY FOUND THE RIGHT TEAM /TIME IN HIS CAREER TO REACH HIS POTENTIAL ) LIKE TOM SAID EARLY NBA GAMES –YOU DON’T PUT ALOT OF STOCK… Read more »
Call me the leader of the MDN train. Cunningham is legit!! Athletic as hell, showed a nice three stroke, aggressive and knows how to draw fouls, and has shown stout defensive ability. Seriously, for a 15th man having all of those skills is amazing.
Honestly, I think Harris is the 15th man, and Kaun is probably 14th. They just have guaranteed contracts.
This was one of my favorite recaps ever! “Space Stars” is a freaking riot, I’m officially making it stick. (Does that make LeBron Space Ghost?)
Great analysis of Delly. He’s a legit player in this league.
GOOOOOSIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! SO GLAD TO HAVE MO GOTTI BACK I HOPE HE HELPS THIS TEAM RECAPTURE THE FUN/MAGIC OF THE 08/09 TEAM CUZ WATCHING THE WALLY BLOCK VIDEO MADE THE OL’ NOSTALGIA FLARE UP AGAIN!!!1!! (sorry, phew, got a little excited there, like I just got hijacked by the spirit of NOMAD ;)
Oh man, can we please make Space Stars a thing?? If LeBron is Space Ghost, can Kyrie be Zorak? Can Love be Brak?
I kind of think JR would make a better Zorak, but Love is a good Brak, and Mozgov could be Moltar
I wish here was recs or thumbs up on everyone’s posts. So much to agree with!! Love how you guys make your points on spot.
I think I heard Tom on one of the podcast mention that they were working on updating some of the site’s infrastructure. That’d be fun to have. I wish my webdesign skillz were better.
Encouraged by what Delly, RJ, and Cunningham have shown. Good points about Delly working on his game. I’m sure his Aussie run helped him craft his skills. And good point about the team succeeding without Lebron playing well. That will be a boon for the Cavs this season. With Lebron’s talent you could see him just facilitating offense, rebounding, doing the little things to help the club when the shot isn’t falling. Kaun’s line is interesting. 6 minutes, no shots attempted, 1 rebound, 1 block, 1 steal, 1 turnover, and 3 PFs. I’d say that’s a useful 6 minutes from… Read more »
Dellly not being fat anymore has made him much qucker. He actually may be the player CtB thought he was last year.
I agree. If he keeps this up he will finally live up to everyone’s hype last season. Which only means they’ll continue to inflate his actual production. And I’m fine with that. Every championship team has an underdog player the fans are rabid over.
“continue to inflate his actual production”… Do you think Brown and Blatt have only been playing him because a blog keeps bringing up the good stuff he’s doing? Or do you think, maybe, there’s a place in the NBA for a heady, 25 year old, 6-4 combo guard who can nail 3’s?
and defend! Love how the announcers give him props on his +29pt with mentions of his tough defense. They have named him “The Irritant” with chuckles when he causes the opponent to turn over the ball.
I’m the first person to jump up and cheer for a Delly trey! I just have a different view of him.
It will be funny when the Cavs have to trade TT to afford Delly.
TT is much more important to this team than Delly. This is the type of comment that makes Cols angry. Delly is useful as the 3rd PG/backup SG who is pesky and a good help defender and can shoot some wide open shots. Please stop overrating him.
He’s the next Steve Nash. Remember, Nash didn’t peak till almost four years in the league. Of course, Delly’s a better defender.
The real question is, how are we going to balance having two top 5 PGs on the team?
I love the smell of Cols getting trolled in the morning… smells like… victory…
You really love movies.
Well… I do make them for a living…
Cols forgot about that. Because Colorado.
Cavs rule
Memphis drool
Can’t help myself but to agree with Cols. Memphis may be a top tier team defensibly, with an excellent half court offense. But without some three point shooting the league will leave them behind.
Great recap. A lot of excitement amongst the CtB faithful, and with good reason! I almost enjoyed reading the live blog comments more than the game itself. This is going to be such an awesome season, and I’m looking forward to sharing it with y’all every step of the way. :)
Take your time Kyrie. MoGotti and Delly got this.
Really great performance all round. The ball movement at times was ridiculous and there was one point in the 2nd where it moved so much that not only was the defense scattered but so were the cavs and no-one on the court seemed to know what to do. A possession where the ball moved too much? Never would have thought I’d see that when watching this team 12 months ago. Hoping Kyrie returns soon so it doesn’t make my overlooking of Mo in Cavs Fantasy too glaring a mistake. 100% agree with the recap that people have forgotten how good… Read more »
I can’t believe everyone forgot how effective Mo can be.. I guess no one paid attention to what he did last year in Minnesota and almost carrying Charlotte into the playoffs without Kemba
Delly’s improvement from this point last season to now is just unreal.
Totally. Glad tom mentioned that left handed no-backboard left hand finish in transition. I would never expect Delly to calmly do that with Tony Alleb chasing him down. It’s awesome. He also Looks much more savvy and confident with his handle and creating space.
What we seen in this Grizzly game was Cavs played like the Eastern Conference Champions. I agree Tom, you seen that confidence in Delly’s play. But also seen it in Love as well. Love was a leader tonight & Lebron was more than fine with that. I’m pleasantly surprised how well Mo & Delly play together on the floor.
The tater-tots for life guy went 1/1 on three-pointers, and the entire Grizzlies team went something like 2/16.
That’s gotta be an early front-runner for best stat of the season.
Forgot to mention how refreshing it is to have the 2nd unit, and end of bench come into game, and have them not only not get destroyed, but to actually gain points!! What a concept.
I looked at the Wizards box score (a team quite a few believe to be top 4 in East) and saw the 4 bench guys they used, D Gooden, Nene, R Sessions and Gary Neal, and thought, oh my, I remember way back when the Cavs reinforcements resembled that crew……
Great win all things considered, with people out, others recovering and a preseason from hell. I don’t believe Memphis is anything special, probably 6 or 7 in West, but to destroy a pretty good team on their home opener was nice. Ball movement was great, save for a couple LBJ iso’s. 29 assists on 41 makes is pretty strong. I thought the D was very good. Shots in paint were strongly contested and while they had a few open looks, they were long 2’s which are the shots you want them taking. Delly was great. Mo was good. Yea D… Read more »
During regular season, I bet no guard gets over 30-32 minutes. End of games and into playoffs will be dictated by matchups (like 1 offensive guard and 1 defensive guard). I love the depth! I remember thinking in Finals – how does GS have both Livingston and Barbosa going against Cavs’ guards playing 40+ minutes. Cavs depth will be needed during playoff run!
IRving will get over 32 minutes quite often.
And that’s not even mentioning Cunningham…who looked very good last night and may be something special.
One of the things that bummed me out most about missing the game (and forgetting to DVR it – DOH!) was not being able to shout “MUCH DANGER NINJA!!” at the screen and then subsequently type it into the live thread just like that… ;)
EG, if you get the chance to watch the whole game you will be happy you did….one of the best performances of the Cavs TEAM (amazing how little LBJ had to do) on the 2nd of a back-to-back no less. If they can keep this up…look out! Go MDN!
I was considering signing up for the NBA League Pass free trial, I thought they did replays right? I wanted to watch the game again tonight. It is really encouraging to see MDN succeed. If he can improve just on his decision-making alone he will be an absolute stud. He just flat out gets to the rim. On anyone. Its like a tiny little LeBron from his first stint in CLE haha
Yes…You can watch replays and I think there is a free trial. I’ve had good success with buying/using the NBA Team Pass….$119 to watch Cavs this year (except for TNT/ESPN/network games).
I’m rooting for MDN to finally find a home with the Cavs.
That’s the only bad thing about LBJ coming back, so many nationally televised games that they get blacked out on League pass.
Loved this recap. Delly has improved dramatically over the off season. Teams are going to offer him big bucks next season.
he’s a hell of a lot quicker when he has the ball in his hands now, whilst dribbling or shooting which is really impressive.
I hope his minutes dont get cut because of shump and kyrie coming back soon.
And he’ll be a restricted free agent, won’t he? (2 year initial contract, 4 years control?)
I thought he took a QO this offseason so that means he can be a UFA next year
No. The Cavs have RFA rights for the first four seasons of his career, same with any rookie.
So then why did we give him a one year QO if we had one more year of team control at a lower price? Good faith money?
Taxes most likely… Probably others just took more priority for long term deals…
You have to offer the QO to make him a RFA in the first place.
Um. Of course his minutes will go down when Shump and Irving come back. Shump and Irving are superior players. What kind of nonsense is this?
While that’s true, even you have to admit he’s looked a LOT better already this year. I couldn’t believe how often he was able to get into the lane in this game, something he was never able to do last year. He’s 3-pointer does look quicker. Defense as focused as ever. He’s going to force Blatt to give him minutes when Mo’s defense becomes a problem.
Yes, he’s looked better. I would like nothing more than he become the player CtB thought he was so we can stop talking about it. But Shump, Kyrie are much much much much muhc much better and will get plenty more playing time while Delly’s and Mo’s minutes will go down.
But Mo is still an important piece because he’s the backup PG while Delly can play off the ball because dribbling is not his forte.
Although, his improved play, along with Mo, will allow the Cavs to bring Kyrie and Shump along slowly and not rush them back into major minutes right away… so there’s that…
Yes. KI can play 30 MPG most nights if both delly and mo can be effective. Which is good. This team is just insanely deep.
Delly has improved and its not surprising at all. He’ll improve next year as well. I hope we sign him long term. he’s smart, he works hard, and he is constantly improving his game. He got to the NBA and realized he had to play D and shoot 3s or he wouldn’t stick, so that’s what he worked on. He learned he needed to quicken his release and improve ball handling. he did. He learned he had to have a floater because he was always being blocked. he did. He’s learning to finish with the left hand. Whatever weaknesses show… Read more »
Awesome recap Tom! I completely missed the game, yet feel like I was there after reading this. It’s hard to say that early victories matter if we want to also say that early losses don’t, but there’s something significant about HOW they won this game that could make all the difference post tax season…