Live Thread: Cavs @ Bucks
2015-11-14
Cleveland travels to Milwaukee tonight to take on the Bucks, who, thankfully, have their starting point guard back. Why do I say “thankfully?” Well, because Michael Carter-Williams, while posting a decent PER of 16, has been a pretty lousy shooter so far this year for the 4-5 Bucks. Meanwhile, with a significant minutes upgrade due to MCW’s absence, journeyman Jerryd Bayless has been shooting the lights out so far this year. Bayless is hitting a scorching 47% of his threes this year to go with a 58 TS%, while MCW is 27% from three with a (laughably) career high, 51.5 TS%. Personally, I’m thrilled the Bucks traded Cavs’ killer, Brandon Knight last year, and set their organization back with one of the worst trades in recent history. But, the projected regular season starting five is back together for Milwaukee.
Greg Monroe, Khris Middleton, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jabari Parker, and Michael Carter-Williams will presumably start for the Bucks, who face a Cavs team coming off difficult win in New York, just last night. Let’s hope some the the post-ups the Cavs were running in New York for Kevin Love come earlier and more often, as he looks to take advantage of the less than stellar defenders Monroe and Parker. The Bucks will be tough to handle on the defensive end as they now sport a pair of 18 PPG scorers in Antetokounmpo and Monroe, who get in the paint often and shoot over 55% from the field. The Cavs will also have to contend with bench stalwarts, John Henson and the aforementioned Bayless. Henson leads the team in blocks at 1.2 a game, despite only playing 13 minutes a night and posts a PER over 20. O.J. Mayo continues to recover from a hamstring injury, and probably won’t see any action in this one.
This might be the toughest game of the year so far from a scheduling standpoint for the Cavs: their first road back-to-back against a group of young players who haven’t played since Wednesday night. Let’s hope they don’t need the King to carry them tonight, and can use their depth to beat a relatively shallow Bucks team.
AGREED —OK CAVS LOST IN DOUBLE OT TO A YOUNG/ RESTED BUCKS SQUAD ( CAVS ALSO MINUS 2 KEY PLAYERS )—-ROUSEY BEATEN UP BY HOLMS —-WHICH IS THE BIGGER UPSET —JUST PUTTING INTO PERSPECTIVE—SOME CAVS FANS ARE READY TO JUMP OFF TERMINAL TOWER AFTER LAST NIGHTS LOSS /IT’S GOING TO HAPPEN OCCASIONALLY WHEN WE JUST DON’T PLAY GOOD AND WIN —NOT THE END OF THE WORLD—IT’S ONLY NOVEMBER –APRIL IS A LONG WAYS OFF—SMOKIN JOE KEEP LIGHTING THEM UP IN CANTON !!
Kevin love is very overrated. There I said it. And he most of the time he looks like he doesn’t give a Sh!t. No defence and no 3pt reliability.
I actually thought his defense was good for most of the game. Also, I don’t think he’s overrated.
Also, he’s averaging 17, 12, and 2 while shooting just under 37% from three. Yes, he has to figure out how NOT to fade away from games but he still is a top 5 PF
If anything, Love is underrated right now. He is a master in the post, best passing big in the league, elite rebounder, and good 3 point and FT shooter. His defense is good. Not great, but good. He is capable of putting up 30 points and 20 rebounds. If LBJ takes a night off, he can carry us by himself. He is the perfect 4 to play with LBJ because of his smarts and passing ability. He is key to our title run. Getting upset because he looks like he doesn’t give a crap during the second of a back… Read more »
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@ChrisBHaynes: On inadvertent whistle, ref at fault. But when players & assistants rush floor calling TO, officials think coach approves. Tough situation.
This has been a really good start regardless of tonight’s loss. That being said, my OBVIOUS nitpicky take is that the Cavs need to start hitting their FTs. Cavs shot 11 of 21 from the FT tonight. Those are DeAndre Jordan FT stats. Only LeBron, Love, and Jefferson shot FT’s and they were all horrible. Make your FT’s and you win this game. They probably should’ve lost to NY with the poor FT shooting as well.
Ronda Rousey lost… GS is next!
Via KO. Rousey became annoying since exploding in the scene and going full mainstream. Haven’t followed MMA that much since GSP retired and Silva going down.
@PeterVecsey1: On final play of regulation (inbounds pass) refs missed Lopez shove of Bogut and Bogut pulling Lopez jersey…
Golden State pulling jerseys… NO WAY!
In partiicular, Bogut pulling jerseys or arms – shocking. He does it virtually every possession.
They should put a camera on Green. His whole game is shady.
Nets went seven minutes between made buckets in the fourth and overtime. That team is terrible. Much worse than the sixers. Just atrocious basketball.
And what a garbage franchise overall. When they moved to Brooklyn, everyone thought they’d be the hip, trendy NY team, but they are years away from even being able to look at a real rebuild. And, worse than anything else, freaking Boston has their #1 pick.
Remember when there was talk about trading for Joe Johnson this summer? 6 points 5 turnovers tonight. bullet dodged.
Nets haven’t made a three pointer since halfway through the third.
Not fouling GS during their last possession lost Brooklyn that game.
Jarret Jack is going to keep throwing up 19 footers until they lose. Its all he knows.
He’s amazing at jacking up those bricks.
Nets won’t survive overtime. They last made a field goal with 3:18 left in the fourth.
They might not score a point in overtime. This is hilarious.
Brooklyn blew it!!!!!! It’s over.
They’re the Nets. Like the Jets and the Mets, you can count on them to suck when it matters.
That escalated quickly. . .
Jarret Jack went off tonight! This GSW – Brooklyn game is great!
Oh man Brooklyn didn’t foul and Iggy hit a three.
Yeah. foul foul foul in that situation.
I know. And Brooklyn is 2 of 13 from three tonight. 2 three pointers all night against GSW!!! And they’re up three with 9 seconds to go. lololol
Lopez missed the bunny!
Come on Nets. For the love of basketball, shut these guys up for a night.
Big night for one of my least favorite Cavs ever.
There are four useless ex-cavs on that team: Jack, Donald Sloan, Kararsv and Ellington. I liked Ellington. The rest, sheesh.
I don’t know if LBJ will end up with the all time scoring record or not, obviously. But for 13 seasons now, he’s not improved at the stripe. i don’t understand it – I mean, if Mozgov and Love can be 80% FT shooters, so can he. So he’s give up about 440 points in his career so far. If he shot 85%? 825 points. I’m not saying he cares or not, but its interesting. Say he ends up his career 1000 points shy of Kareem. Those free throws would’ve made the difference. They certainly have made some games losses… Read more »
He needs to learn the underhand free throw. Call Rick Barry LeBron.
@CBSSportsNBA: Took ‘em a while, but the Warriors lead with 4:30 to go after Curry’s up and under.
Ah shucks!!!
Yeah right, GSW have a shot at 70. STFU Curry. You’ll be lucky to sniff 75.
I mean 65 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I’d put their over/ under at right about 70, so I think they have a really good shot at 70 wins. That’s assuming no major injuries, though.
@CBSSportsNBA: 8:30 to go in the fourth, Nets by 5 over the Warriors.
Like, in an actual basketball game.
Yeah, we don’t get it either.
The Warriors will likely win, but just goes to show that even crappy NBA teams can have a good night, or good teams can have a bad night, and weird things happen. It’d be hilarious if the Nets somehow win.
@ChrisBHaynes: LeBron James admits they play with “half ass effort sometimes” and then are forced to dig out of holes.
No doubt!!!!
I don’t know. I always get the feeling it’s intentional. Just to see if they can actually dig out of the holes and give themselves a challenge. I probably wouldn’t mind it if Lebron wouldn’t put in 45 minutes a game.
I’ve got two available tickets for the Cavs vs Bucks at the Q next Thursday. They’re decent seats — section 209, row 11, seats 9 and 10…
(http://www.seats3d.com/nba/cleveland_cavaliers/mobile/viewer/viewer.php?name=Section%20209%2C%20Rows%20(9-12)&seat=p_209_3&pan=-7&pan_min=-95&pan_max=95&tilt=-26&tilt_min=-89&tilt_max=90&level=level_7&device=iphone)
… I usually sit in them, but got better seats for the game. I’ll sell them to anyone whose interested for $15 bucks a seat. Flash seats won’t let me sell them for anything less than $38 per seat.
Let me rephrase that fifteen DOLLARS… NOT BUCKS… per ticket.
Do you have a paypal account?
I do… What is your email?
I’ll give you my crap email. psil303 AT yahoo DOT com
Bonus – just sent you an email and PayPal request.
Oh man am I jealous. Even if Bobby Wagner hasn’t gotten to you first Itd be so hard for me to go.
Sorry bud!!!!!!!!!
Anyone watch college ball? Saw a little bit of Ben Simmons last night, looks like a great passer. Bill Simmons loves the Aussie, and trolls the Nets, as he/Celtics project to land the number 1 pick.
I would rather Simmons end up anywhere than Boston, even LA. Mainly because of Bill Simmons and similar entitled Boston sports fans.
I hope he’s a bust and ends up in Boston.
That would be amazing. Like if he turned into Derrick Williams. But I’d rather not take chances.
I mentioned watching Ingram @ Duke… he looks like the real deal.
He’s built like Kevin Durant. He’s a great passer, great shooter, defends well with his length. If he shoots like he did tonight, he’s a stud.
Saw the beginning of the LSU game. Simmons is definitely an athlete.
Duke plays UK on Tuesday(?) must see TV… UK will probably win, but if Ingram plays well… he’ll be a top lottery pick.
In other news, Thaddeus Young already has 20 points on GS and they are somewhere near the beginning of the 3rd.
It’s sucks to lose but the Cavs just won 8 straight, and really it could be 10-0 if the ball rolled right. The Cavs defense has looked pretty solid. Congrats Bucks on a meaningless win. I hope someone kicks Vasquez in the nuts on Thursday. He looks like a guy that drugs women’s cocktails in South Beach night clubs.
This is so true. He’s a creeper for sure.
Kevin Love has been good on 1 half and nowhere-to-be-seen on the other so far in these games. That needs to change NOW.
As great as LeBron is he has to hit his FT’s…… He missed a ton of them and against the Bulls on their first L.
http://uproxx.com/dimemag/2015/08/5-nba-players-bad-free-throws-underhanded/2/
You called it NOMAD… props to you!
is kevin love like still injured or something？？？？
I’m not convinced Kevin Love has the extra gear he needs.
Yeah he looks like a weenie sometimes.
I’m not convinced with the “focal point” of the offense b.s too.
It takes two to tango.
I’m going to the game on Thursday and I can’t wait. This will be a great rematch. And I EXPECT the CAVS to blow them out.
Quite fitting they lost on an offensive rebound. Fun Game. 8-2 aint to shabby!
what did I say, an offensive rebound killed us , crazy shot from JR reminds me of that shot he made in the 4th at bulls that lead to that game 4 win
LeBron gotta be pissed.
Bucks acting like they just won the Championship…
You win a double ot game, you deserve to celebrate.
Meh, with the amount of FTs we missed tonight, it should have never gotten to OT. Im not impressed.
*shrug* I’d Celebrate if i were them.
Kyrie come back soon. Cavs got almost no scoring from the point tonight.
4 points for Mo, zero for Delly.
Bucks length really challenged the point tonight.
Kyrie’ dribble penetration would give the Bucks fits.
Cavs aren’t really playing spectacularly good lately, but they are missing their backcourt; it’s November; we play in the East; they’re shooting probably historically bad from the FT.
Bring in Rick Berry and teach TT and LeBron the underhand free throw. It works. Make it cool again.
And JR delivers!
Still got a chance. Need a quick 3.
@ChrisBHaynes: #Cavs G Joe Harris put up 31 points and nine rebounds with Canton Charge. He was 11-of-25 from the field and 5-of-11 from distance.
Could’ve used that tonight.. Oh well
Awesome update Arch! Way to go, Joe!
Hate Carter Williams.
He’s very punchable-looking with that dangling lower lip.
Greiviz is the worst.
Cavs are out of gas.
Cavs make free throws at a respectable percent and they would have won this game in regulation or in the first overtime.
What the hell was that?
That was the double OT, b2b, I give up pass in.
Don’t forget away game.
I hate to agree with you but, yeah.
Kevin Love doesn’t look good lately.
if we dont score now, I think the game is over
We have missed 10 FT’s
Just imagine making even 6 of those.
At some point these missed FT’s will cost you a win.
Indeed they will. You cant keep missing them en masse and expect to always come out unscathed. The Cavs need to put some serious work in on the charity stripe.
Cavs are going to come back and force a third overtime. I’m calling it now.
I hate Vasquez!
Mo doesn’t have it tonight.
Ya, most nights he makes that shot.
The Bucks are probably the longest team in the league so I’m not surprised with Mo’s struggles.
Cavs getting destroyed on the glass all night an Mo gets the tip in haha
Mo Williams with the tip-in!!!!
Wish we had Shump back.
FTs FTs FTs FTs
GIANNIS is out, these damn Free throws are hurting us
These free throw misses…
Yeah we have to be the worst in the league.
Monroe has been burning KLOVE in the post too, beat him on the perimeter then KLOVE
I havent seen much ball movement from the CAVS in this game. Bucks have had some nice movement at times, like this last possesion
LeBron is. Everywhere on every play.
So Kevin Love last scored when??
He made one free throw in the fourth quarter. His last basket was at 9:14 of the third quarter.
Um, so then every screen Golden State set in the finals was a foul, right?
Lebron with the opening 3. come on Cavs
LeBron feeling it.
LeBron didn’t drive because officials won’t call fouls on tat situation. How many times have we seen him get hammered at the end of a game with no call.