The Point Four-ward: Much Danger… Averted
2015-12-10For points I’m thinking about the Cleveland Cavaliers…
1.) Hopefully, the Cavs coaching staff used Tuesday’s 105-100 win over the Portland Trailblazers to drive home one very important point to their most important player: Please, LeBron James, please, stop dominating the ball.
James is still one of the best players in the world, if not the best, but the Cavs are a worse team when the ball hits his hands and sticks there. In his weekly podcast, Terry Pluto talked about how LeISO affects the rest of the Cavs. Perfectly capable offensive players like Mo Williams and Kevin Love suddenly become less assertive and watch as James takes over the show. On offense, these players get taken out of their rhythm when one missed shot on their part could cause James (or, even worse, could cause that player to think it might cause James) to feel like he has to take the next four. On defense, the players are disengaged from standing around on the other end and play with less urgency when it comes to keeping the other team from scoring.
The Cavs need the LeBron James who makes the other players around him better, not the one who makes the players around him tentative or second guess themselves.
That first kind of LeBron made a welcome reappearance after 18 minutes of sluggish, uninspired basketball by both him and his teammates. That’s when the team ratcheted up their defensive effort and (shockingly) found that the ball could have a little more life in it.
In the second quarter alone, as the Cavs began to claw their way back toward respectability, James fed Kevin Love on a pick-and-roll for an easy score, he posted up on an isolation play and he moved without the ball, receiving a pass under the basket from Love for a slam.
James should — and will certainly continue to be — a major facilitator on this team. He’s the most gifted passer at his position(s) that the game has ever seen. However, the team suffers when James plays point guard, either walking the ball up the court or surveys the floor from the top of the three point arc for 20 seconds before initiating the action. Even if he makes the contested three he likes to shoot in that situation or passes the ball to an open teammate who cans an open look, the Cavs lose what can make them a special team when they take their foot off the gas… when the ball loses its zip… when they are no longer trusting each other.
Hopefully, Tuesday night’s comeback can help remind the Cavs of how hard they have to play — and how varied their star needs to play — for them to get back on a roll.
2.) After starting the year red hot, Williams has hit a rough patch. Over the last two weeks, the Cavs’ biggest free agent signing has seen his scoring dip, his liability as a defender constantly exposed, and his starting spot lost to the steadier Matthew Dellavedova.
Those recent struggles made a bit more sense when news broke that Williams had an MRI on his left knee earlier this week. The MRI was negative and Williams was active for Tuesday’s game against the Blazers, but the knee had reportedly been bothering Williams for a while now. Then, he said he “tweaked it” in Saturday’s Meltdown in Miami.
It’s encouraging that Williams isn’t expected to miss time to get his knee right and that he, along with the coaching staff, seem content to play through the injury… albeit with a diminished work load. After routinely playing big minutes earlier in the season, Williams hasn’t cracked the 30 minute mark since the team’s loss in Toronto and is routinely playing closer to 20 minutes, clearly in an attempt to rejuvenate his ailing legs.
Against the Blazers, Williams came off the bench and played well, scoring 13 points and dishing out two assists in 21 minutes of action.
3.) Through all of the questions that the Cavs’ recent play has raised, there has been the tiniest glimmer of silver lining in the form of Jared Cunningham. Head coach David Blatt has turned to Cunningham in both of the last two games when the Cavs needed a spark and the 6-4 guard who grabbed the team’s final roster spot out of training camp has delivered.
Cunningham deployed some truly nasty defense (like this) —
— and injected some much needed life into the Cavs’ saggy perimeter D.
Later, Cunningham made the most important shot you can make when you’re a teammate of LeBron James, canning a corner three after James squeezed just about all the water out of the shot clock.
So, yes, Cunningham has shown the type of complimentary ability that the team needs from the end of its bench, much more so than Canton Charge stand-out Joe Harris. He is hitting over 40% of his corner threes and his defensive focus has raised his stock as a legitimate “Three and D” guy. It will cost Dan Gilbert millions in additional luxury tax if, in January, he decides to guarantee Cunningham’s contract for the year, but Cunningham might add enough versatility to the end of this bench to make the millions (relatively) worth it.
4.) While Cunningham, a former first round draft pick of the Cavs, enjoyed his extra time under the lights, a former Cavs second rounder now playing for the other side was busy benefiting from getting more run this season, as well.
Allen Crabbe, the Blazers’ 6-6 shooting guard, was the 31st overall pick of the Cavaliers in the 2013 NBA Draft. Crabbe, now playing in his third pro season, has seen his minutes climb to almost 24 per game for the young, guard-oriented Blazers and the University of California product is making the most of it. The athletic swingman with the bleached blonde mohawk is averaging 9.5 points per game with a True Shooting percentage of 59.6. After hitting his career high of 18 points in back-to-back games against Dallas and Indiana last week, Crabbe was quietly efficient against the Cavs, scoring 14 points on 6-11 shooting (1-3 from three).
Crabbe clearly benefits from all of the attention drawn by Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum, but he’s carved out a nice place for himself in the rebuilding Blazers’ rotation.
Crabbe was traded to the Blazers on draft night for a pair of second round picks. In fact, none of the Cavs picks in that draft — number one overall pick Anthony Bennett, Russian shooting guard Sergey Karasev, and Arizona State small forward Carrick Felix — remain on the team’s roster.
Kyrie Irving will not play tonight, David Blatt said.
#Cavs G J.R. Smith will not make the trip to Orlando for the game.
Blatt says Shumpert will be active. Sounding more and more as if he’ll play
I always liked the idea that I heard that it should be the dunk thats worth 3 points – requires a lot more basketball skills to get an open dunk than to chuck a 40 footer
Cool idea. This would lead to a lot more 3-point plays (and 4 point plays)
By the way Lebron is 5 for his last 29 3’s. He can fix that anytime now. Its been like a 14 month slump now
Loved the great pics of Jared playing tenacious defense!Thanks!!
Off topic: Popovich being gruff with the press on the 3pt shot and telling press Raptors didn’t do anything genius, earth shattering and that it can’t be copied.” Get out of here with that. They played better than us and that’s it”. He promptly walked away.
He’s long been against the 3. I remember when they were number 1 in 3pfg’s made he complained about it. I do wonder if at some point they move it even farther out or make it 3’s and 4’s. Because as much as we are shocked by Curry now I think that in 6-7 years they’ll be 10 players that can shoot like this. And that will change the game and completely eliminate 2 point shots
I like Cols too but I will say its been nice to be able to have a discourse here without every comment being interrupted by the same ideas about leb, delly, or the cavs at large
Where has he been? I noticed the other night that he hasn’t really been around.
ITS GLENN FROM THE MAILROOM!
AGREED SOMEONE POST COLS PICTURE ON A MILK CARTON SO WE LOCATE HIM —-DO YOUR “MAGIC ” EVIL
This is the best I can do (having absolutely no idea what Cols looks like)… however, this is the face I imagine he makes when he thinks about Delly…
BTW what happened to Cols? Was he banned or did he just take a vacation. Either way hope he’s back for the stretch run.
No one would ban Cols. He is the mascot of the blog!
But he might be suffering depression at the though of Delly being on the all star team, and is hiding under the bed.
Maybe we can chip in and get Manziel to drop off a six of cold ones on his way, the next time he jets to Texas for a day off. I got some Jackie O’s Mystic Mama IPA’s. That will get him going.
I regret to report that Cols was picked up in a rubber truck and taken to a rubber room a few days ago. His mind finally snapped due to the lethal combo of Delly’s ascension and the Warrior’s unending winning streak.
In that case, we better send a couple of cases of beer.
BTW, scroll to the bottom for a pic of Mr. JackieO in Cavs gear:
http://jackieos.com/brewery/overview/
I think you guys are right on Cols. He disappeared from both blogs he is very active on exactly the time Delly started. I don’t think it’s a coincidence. I never seen a fan so passionate about a player that they believed was so so bad than what the stats proved.
Good stuff Robert! I agree regarding the IsoBron stuff, but I’ll forgive it for now since our line up is a bit scrambled with injuries. I think there’s a time and place for IsoBron, and the less of it the better.
If MDM continues to play like he had against the Blazers then I hope they keep him, however after listening to Dave McMenimen earlier today, it seems unlikely they hold onto MDM after Jan 10.
There are a lot of players the Cavs drafted that I wish we’re currently in the roster… Crowder, Powell, Crabbe, Zeller
I agree that the Cavs need more ball and player movement on their offense it is definitely a most but at the same blaming LBJ is kind of not right if you ask me. When LeBron took over in the 4th against the Blazers the other night it got the Cavs a win. So let’s say Jrue Holiday doesn’t hit the three pointer that sent the game into overtime against the Pelicans then we would be here blogging about how great LBJ is and blah blah. …. Of course LeBron and Kyrie (when he comebacks) need to get the role… Read more »
Tbh I can’t wait to see Kyrie and Shump back on the court for the Cavs but at the same time I hope they are fully healthy when they decide to come back. As much as I would love to see the Cavs at full strength against the Warriors the Cavs have to think about the big picture here.
THANK YOU JOEY B
JUST WATCHED SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF “HOT ROD ” WILLIAMS —T.T. NEEDS TO WATCH —GET A LESSON ON HOW TO FINISH —-FORGOT HOW ” BEASTLY ” HOT ROD WAS —GET WELL BIG GUY !
FYI, Terry Pluto at the Plain Dealer has information on how to send cards to Hot Rod and his family, if anyone is so inclined. Pluto did the same thing for Rocky Colavito and Colavito told him that it meant a lot to hear from so many fans who remembered him.
We’re going to have to be able to go small for extended periods if we want any chance of beating the Warriors, which means playing 3+ guards at a time for a whole game, if necessary. Delly, Shump, J.R., LBJ, and MDN, have the ability to defend at a high level against quick guards enough to disrupt the Warriors. KI, RJ, and Thompson can do so to a lesser extent. The key is going to be Love. Can he provide enough defensively such that his shortcomings there don’t outweigh his offensive contributions? Because with both Love and LBJ on the… Read more »
I think you hit on an important part of what the Cavs could do to Curry. The first two games of the finals Curry was not hitting shots probably in large part because of the intense defense Delly was playing. One person can’t keep that up for a full series but with Shump and MDN sharing the load with Delly, it may be possible to play intense defense on Curry all the time. Could be a nice plus.
Totally agree (and I have been saying this for months). Delly, Imam, JR, and MDN should be pestering Curry from the minute he walks out of the tunnel. It totally saps your energy to bump into someone every step you take. Of course, it takes even more energy for the guy on D. That is why it is good to have enough energy guys that you can get them a few minutes of rest several times a game. When you have a guy like MDN, you can have a one man press 100% of the time when they bring the… Read more »
Yes yes yes on MDN’s possible role against GSW. Even if everyone is healthy, an occasional few minutes from him could be very valuable — and something that Harris could not contribute.
And if there are any guard injuries, Ninja becomes invaluable.
Couldn’t agree more!
Don’t forget that Irving blamed some pretty intense defense with a bum knee in Game 1
Here’s my thought re: JC: I think the big revelation that comes from the POR game is whether Blatt will go to JC over RJ and Champ at the 2/3 positions. I think it’s RJ and Champ who stand to lose minutes at the 2/3 positions when CLE goes small ball. RJ and Champ simply don’t have the foot speed at the 2/3. Over the season, Blatt has gone to RJ and Champ at the 2/3, and the results have been mixed at best. While both RJ and Champ are better shooters than JC, Blatt has shown that he’ll go… Read more »
I think Champ doesn’t see the floor once everyone is healthy. RJ will be limited to resting LBJ against certain lineups. If MDN can prove his worth defensively, he should get the most minutes, both because he will get better the more he plays, and because RJ needs to play as few minutes as possible to keep him fresh and healthy for when/if it counts.
I would tend to agree with you that Champ who is most likely to not see the court. That certainly was the case against POR. Statistical evidence suggests Champ is better offensively than RJ, mainly because of his 3pt shooting, but RJ is clearly the superior defensive player of the two. As I mentioned, Blatt tends to go defense over offense, so RJ would be the logical choice. I see him playing 4 in small ball lineups and giving LBJ a rest here, and there… although I see the Cavs going small ball a lot and using their guard depth… Read more »
“Right now, RJ and Champ are simply not vastly superior to JC on offense” and from above you said RJ and Champ are better shooters. A little confusing. If you do look at the stats RJ is better fg% 43%, 3P%31% (which is not his norm in last 3 yrs. he is usually 42%) 7ppg, 2rebs Champ is declining from Heat 2013/2014 . Currently he is 34%fg%, 38%3P% 3.4ppg 1 reb He hasn’t been consistent. Jared is 34%fg%, 36%3P% FT%63% 3.8ppg. It would be impulsive to hang your hat on these stats because this is the 1st time Jared has… Read more »
Should clarify to help defend small ball in cases of injuries
I apologize for the confusion… I thought it’s clear that those two statements aren’t contradictory. RJ and Champ are better shooters… but their statistical shooting percentages are only marginally better than JC at this point this season, as opposed to vastly superior. I cited those statistics you mentioned generally in the initial post, it’s unclear from what you said whether you saw them or not. Make no mistake, I have no delusions of grandeur regarding JC, nor am I impulsively hanging my hat on his stats HAHA! I have already mentioned in another thread, he’s essentially Will Cherry 2015 statistically… Read more »
Odd that JR has been completely left out of this conversation. The 5 guards we will use the most will be Irving, Delly, Shump, JR, and Mo. Jared may steal a few if we go small for extended periods but unless he proves more effective than Mo (which I believe is possible) he won’t see much time even in small ball units soon. RJ will be the back up 3 and small 4. When we go small he Shump and JR will get time at the 3. I don’t we go as small as we did vs portland more than… Read more »
I would agree, the 5 main guards are the ones you mentioned.
If i were taking a wild guess, I’ve have previously mentioned that I think we’ll see a lot of small ball lineups from the 2nd unit… which would be Mo/Delly/Shump/RJ/TT.
I would agree with you, RJ should never play the 2 guard anymore. Blatt experimented early in the season with that, and it has clearly not worked. I think we’ll see RJ mainly at the 4.
I think RJ’s failure at the 2 guard is precisely why JC saw the court as much as he did against POR.
If JC gets minutes when we are healthy it will be at the expense of Mo. Once Shump gets back all the guard minutes will go to Irving, Shump, Delly and JR. JR, RJ, and Shump will be the small ball 3’s and 4’s.
I could see matchups where JC plays over Mo against elite offensive PG’s.
I would disagree that JC’s minutes will come at the expense of Mo. In fact, I think Mo will benefit from Delly/Shump/JC at the 2/3 positions, because then they can use one of the 3 to guard Mo’s man, freeing Mo on defense. Mo’s PER is 16, third best on the team beside LBJ and Love. He’s our best shooting guard, not including Kyrie. The only thing that’s been holding Mo back minutes-wise recently is a reported knee injury. The statistics simply do not support replacing JC with Mo in any shape or form. Mo will never guard elite offensive… Read more »
I agree. I’m not saying JC over Mo in general. I’m saying on the off night when we are playing a team with 2 or 3 good guards then maybe
So All-Star voting started. Can Cleveland and Aulstralia get Delly to the All-Star game? Cause it would be awesome and piss off my Canadian Lowry fan friends. And anything to Troll John Wall fans is a good thing too
That would be hilarious. I don’t think it happens .
About #1. I love the idea of the Cavs playing a ball movement offense. That is the ideal situation. But what to do when the team is playing flat (e.g. against New Orleans)? I listened to the Terry Pluto podcast. Should Lebron have continued feeding his team mates who were just not getting it done? Lebron is not a selfish player. He made a decision to go into LeIso mode and damn near won the game for the Cavs. Had he not done that, would the Cavs have made it to OT? I don’t think so. Making things more complicated… Read more »
Funny that Crabbe is a better player than Bennett. That draft was a crapshow for the Cavs.
They’re actually talking CAVS for once today on 92.3.
I gave up listening to them after the Finals. It’s nauseating Browns talk 24/7 there.
Yo my people get me away from @J1Flight asap! He just said Outkast “ATLiens” is weak and turn it off. I ready to slap the bleep out of him — LeBron James Twitter
That’s funny… MDN gotta recognize that ATLiens is a classic…
Shows LBJ’s age compared to the youngins on the team lol
Loved that album in college
Getting closer:
Dave McMenamin @mcten 18m18 minutes ago
David Blatt on if Iman/Kyrie will play on the ORL-BOS road trip: “There’s a chance they play, there’s also a chance they don’t”
Gotta get them in game shape for the 25th ;)
Wouldn’t that be something!
BELIEVE THEY MADE A HUGE MISTAKE OF GIVING THAT GARANTEED CONTRACT LAST SUMMER TO SMOKIN JOE/ COULD HAVE BEEND USED NOW FOR MDN AND NOT HAVING ANYTHING AGAINST YOU FOR POSSIBLE TRADE —BELIEVE LIKE EVIL SAID WITH ALOT OF TEAMS GOING SMALL BALL YOU NEED TO MATCH THEM WITH ATHLETICISM AT THE GD POSITION(S) –MDN IS A KEEPER / SMOKIN JOE IS A SLEEPER
Great post!
Regarding Cunningham, I can easily see him being a good weapon to use on second units. With his athleticism and hopefully an improved offense(a lot to do with being mentally ready/confident), I would gladly play him alongside Delly/Mo.
I’m hoping he doesn’t get frustrated once Kyrie and Schump come back, and his minutes/use decline. He needs to keep ready and continue to grow.
Great stuff, Robert! In addition to the defensive intensity, I also thought Mo’s chemistry with LeBron to start the fourth quarter also helped get the ball moving. They turned back the clock a bit with their two-man game…
I have long been a fan of Much Danger Ninja, and believe he deserves a spot on this team, and not just a ceremonial one at the end of the bench. Cavs will need as much athleticism and defenders on the wing as possible for the playoff run…
We will want him if we have a couple injuries like now. But if we are healthy do you actually see him getting minutes? He’s a smaller worse version of Shump.
Absolutely… he’s veteran insurance as well in case anything happens to say RJ. Also, you have to have a complement of fast wing players who can play defense and hit threes if you’re going to be able to match up with small-ball lineups…
We can’t possibly have equally talented players all the way down the bench. Just because he’s a worse version of Shump (something I’ve always felt) doesn’t mean he doesn’t have value to the team. After all, Shump gets tired too.
Wardell Curry was a favorite of mine back in the day. Does anyone remember how he wound up going from the Cavs to the Hornets?
Wayne Embry liked Curry. He traded for him in ’87. But in ’88, he left Curry unprotected in the expansion draft, and the Hornets took him with their first pick. The Cavs had gone through about a decade where their rosters were so weak that losing a few players in an expansion draft would barely have been noticed. But by ’88 it was going to hurt. My guess is the eight players they chose to protect ahead of Curry were: Price, Nance, Daugherty, Harper, Hot Rod, Kevin Johnson, Craig Ehlo, and Mike Sanders. (Could have been Chris Dudley or Mark… Read more »
Good write-up.
#2, when Shump and Kyrie return to full strength I think we’ll see Mo being used properly. With only 2 point guards they are forced to use him so they don’t wear Delly out.