The Point Four-ward: Happy Kyri-days!
2015-12-23Due to a crazy week of traveling – and in the spirit of “next man up” – Mike, Cory and Ben joined me for a group Point Four-ward in which we each have a point we’re thinking about the Cleveland Cavaliers…
1.) The regular season is nearly two months old, but this week marks the first time that Cavs fans (along with the rest of the league) will start to get an idea of just what these 2015-16 Cleveland Cavaliers could look like.
The recurring theme in most of the stories coming off of Sunday’s whipping of the Sixers was how the Cavs played relaxed, were noticeably relieved to finally have both Kyrie Irving and Iman Shumpert available, and were just having fun playing basketball. Now, yes, the Sixers have allowed many an NBA team to have fun playing basketball over the last two seasons, but they have actually played the Cavaliers pretty tough and pretty close over their last few meetings. So, really, an easy win against Philly was hardly a sure thing (even if an eventual win was). To see the team so comfortable… and, finally, so complete should have Cavs fans looking forward not just to the Christmas Day show-down against the Golden State Warriors, but to the remainder of a regular season in which the Cavs get their motor running in preparation for heading out on the highway.
Too often this season, the Cavs have been caught looking forward. LeBron James has had to play deep into more games than many thought and the team’s focus level hasn’t been as high or as consistent as many (mainly James himself) would have liked. A few weeks ago, I questioned in this column whether or not the team was experiencing a crisis of confidence. Now, with Irving back, they look, at least initially, like a team ready to snowball the enthusiasm they’ve been kinda sitting on into a big run. In other words, this is when the Cavs could get scary.
2.) [from Mike] With the return to health of Kyrie Irving and Iman Shumpert, one thing to keep an eye on is how David Blatt sets up the team’s regular rotation going forward. As Jason Lloyd has pointed out several times, it would be no surprise to see Mo Williams as the odd man out of the rotation at this point. Matthew Dellavedova has been terrific so far this season, and the minutes at the wing positions will likely be completely taken up by LeBron James, Iman Shumpert, J.R. Smith, and Richard Jefferson. In fact it will be difficult for Jefferson to find consistent minutes as well.
The question is, how will Williams deal with playing only sporadic minutes? While one would like to believe that he’ll accept the situation with a positive outlook for the good of the team, there’s no real reason to believe that this will be the case. Williams has always been a sensitive player with up and down performances based on where he is at mentally. For as much as bringing Williams back made sense for basketball reasons, and the great feeling of nostalgia his return brought, fans need to remember the other side of Mo Williams. Playoff Mo Williams. The Mo Williams who came into the 2010-2011 season out of shape and didn’t exactly hurry back from injury. Brian Windhorst has mentioned noticing that Williams has seemed down in the locker room lately, and it may be that he sees his role becoming much less than what he envisioned when he agreed to sign with the Cavaliers.
None of this is to say the signing Williams was a mistake. He is by all accounts a good person and supportive teammate who has given the Cavaliers all they could have expected from him and more. Thirteen points per game on 47.4% shooting to go along with 4.1 assists per game is nothing to sneeze at, and if Mo Williams is the Cavaliers’ fifth guard, then just shows how terrific their depth really is.
3.) [from Cory] After the Milwaukee Bucks defeated the Golden State Warriors, ending the Warriors undefeated start to the season, J.R. Smith didn’t hold back his own disappointment to seeing the historic streak come to an end:
“I was upset. I’m not going to lie,” Smith said. “When it was a tough game against Boston, I was home watching the game and I was like, ‘Man, y’all got to pull this out. Y’all got to pull this out.’ I wanted them to go undefeated until they played us.”
I, for one, was rooting for the streak to continue, as well.
I like that the Cavs have flown under the radar. Even with mixed effort level and the absence of their presumed starting backcourt, they’ve managed to pace the improved Eastern Conference. The hoopla surrounding LeBron’s return last season had to have been a distraction at times and I assume it feed into the slow start, along with LeBron’s do as I say, not as I do mantra for the first two months of the season.
I’m still rooting for the Warriors to do well. I want them to chase the 1995-96 Chicago Bulls record for wins in a season. As a hoops head, I like compelling basketball, so I hope the Warriors stay healthy and break the Bulls record… and burn themselves out in the process.
4.) [from Ben] The Cavs have largely done a good job of “Pace and Post” this season. Kevin Love has drained many of his efficiency-leading post hooks after running early for great seal post position. This early post run doesn’t have much of an effect if the PG doesn’t push the ball in tandem. Mo and Delly like to get the ball over half court as soon as possible. It is one of Mo’s greatest strengths. Kyrie, however loves to walk the ball up the floor. There is general curiosity around the league about how the Cavs will continue to feature Kevin Love now that Irving has returned to the lineup. A simple push from Irving would go a long way in keeping Love on track.
Kyrie also has a tendency to crossover the opponent’s big man in pick and roll action. He probably learned it from Jarrett Jack who almost exclusively uses that move to get open 15-footers. It’s not the most efficient use of a pick. At least one guy must be attacking the rim for any PnR to be successful. The attack collapses the defense to open the cross-court pass. When a PG crosses over the opponent bigman, it cuts off the normal roll lane for the offensive big. The two-on-one advantage is lost in the PGs search to “get his J”. Chris Paul does this a lot as well. But, if the offensive big understands that the crossover is coming, he can flip his roll route toward the basket. DeAndre Jordan is very good at reading Paul’s movements in order to still have devastating rolls to the rim. Delly is an effective PnR player because he keeps it simple. He uses the pick as often as he can, and tries to keep the play moving downhill toward the rim. Kyrie is obviously a much more dynamic PnR player. Some of that dynamism is confusing for the Cavalier bigs. If TT and Moz can be more adaptive and Kyrie can be a bit more “boring”, the Cavs will be nearly unstoppable.
Love opens with a baseline J, then hits a 3 in transition.
So…are we hijacking this post for the game thread?
Carmelo is out tonight.
On the Knicks pregame show, Wally Szczerbiak is wearing a burgundy velvet sportcoat with black lapels.
WHO WAS ACTUALLY TALKING FOR “WINDY ” I MEAN THOSE COMMENTS WERE ACTUALLY INTELLIGENT —–SLOWLY COLS IS COMING OVER TO THE ” DARK SIDE ” —–BETWEEN NOW AND CHRISTMAS –I MAY GET TOO WRAPPED UP IN
a) THE GAME
b) CHRISTMAS ALES
c) WIFE’S NEVER ENDING HONEYDO LIST ( OR MAYBE JUST MY WIFE PERIOD )
d) ALL THE ABOVE
IN EITHER CASE I AM WISHING ALL OF YOU A VERY MERRY / BLESSED CHRISTMAS !!—BE SAFE !!
Windhorst: Cavs can’t forget about Dellavedova
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14427947
Cols is gonna aire some more greivances with Windy.
“You could make the case that Dellavedova is playing like a top 10 point guard.”
Just seeing if this is true. Feel free to add names
1) Steph
2) Westbrook
3) CP3
4) KLow
5) Tony Parker
6) Reggie (Holy Cow this guy is proving me wrong)
7) Bledsoe
8) Dame
9) Kemba??
10) Wall/Rubio/Conley
I think top 10 is pretty tough, Wall isn’t having the best year and I hate Kemba’s game. Conley isn’t himself this year. So its possible to argue it but top 15 is probable
Other names I considered Delly better than are Bradley and Isiah Thomas, Holiday, Teague, Chalmers, Deron Williams (having a pretty nice comeback year).
MELO DOUBTFUL FOR TONIGHTS GAME/ SPRAINED ANKLE—NEED A REPEAT OF PHILLY GAME —ALL STARTERS UNDER 25 MINUTES
This is a great point four ward. I think the concern for people being the “odd man out” could be alleviated if Blatt goes Popovich on the rest of the season. Is like to see everyone short of Sasha Lain playing every game. If the team is as good as we think they are they will win easily even giving 15+ minutes a night to guys like Mo, MDN, RJ, and Andy. Go deeeeeeeeeep into the bench. This team has way too many injury prone players to be grinding them down in the reg season. Ben, I’ve been thinking about… Read more »
Tom…your one sentence stood our for me: “This team has way too many injury prone players to be grinding them down in the reg season.” Hope that factors into who plays when and for how long.
He had originally stated this in the beginning of the season when he talked about lessons learned. He said he MUST improve the bench and that means he has to play them. He regretted that because the bench didn’t get enough play time and it made them ill-prepared for the playoffs especially when the team had so many injuries. He didn’t want to make that mistake this season. I like listening to Blatt after post games.
Top 5 xmas movies
1. Elf
2. Chevy Chase
3. Muppet christmas carol
4. Grinch (the cartoon one)
5. Diehard
Bad Santa?????????????
bad santa and christmas story were two that werwe tough to leave out.;f
Elf is great. Will Ferrell was born to play that character.
But A Christmas Story is worlds better than the Chevy Chase movie. The white-trash stereotypes and jokes about senility get old pretty fast.
No classics? It’s a Wonderful Life, The Bishop’s Wife, the George Scott or Alastair Sim versions of A Christmas Carol…
Question: should Bron take even more of a back-seat in the first three quarters, for the rest of the regular season? I HOPE the solutions to all of these worries are the same thing: good Team basketball. Now that we have everyone, I hope Blatt can can continue to create lineups and plays that feature the strengths of everyone. I don’t think Mo will be upset with coming off the bench with fewer minutes if he feels he can be dominant and have an important impact in that short time. And I think that Love in the post has been… Read more »
To answer your question. Nope. LeBron is awesome and he should fee free to remain awesome.
If by “backseat” you mean play off ball, then absolutely. If you mean take it easy on D and in the post, then no. The Cavs are finally at full strength. ‘Bron will get his rest now in the fourth quarter of blowouts.
Sucks that everyone left for the day.
They’ll be back for the Knicks game… although, I’m going to have to miss it due to holiday party obligations…
I imagine I will too. It’s too hard to type, drink, and watch basketball. So drinking and basketball ire the two.
1. I have no worries
2. I have no wirres
3. I have no worres
4. NO worries
Cavs are the best.
Happy Festivus Cols! A donation has been made in your name to the human fund.
The human fund…. Money for people!
When do I get to air my grievances? I have a lot of problems with your people
should read “you people”
That’s hilarious.
No worries, but plenty of grievances!
Wow, Four great points! Thanks for the team effort guys. I, too, worry about Mo Williams. I noticed Mo’s mental dip when the media and fans stopped celebrating his return and started asking questions about his defense and singing the praises of Matthew Dellavadova. He’s been on a downward spiral ever since. I think its going to be real tough for him now that he’s the third PG. I hope he is able to find a way to stay positive, because chances are we’ll need his experience and shooting at some point. Blatt has a tricky situation now. He’s got… Read more »
I wonder though if Mo’s series of nagging injuries doesn’t have as much to do with him being down lately… There will still be plenty of opportunities for him this season either from matchups, minutes management or injuries here and there…
Yep. Mo and LeBron carried us in the early part of the season which is now forgotten. He’ll be fine,.
Agree with both of you, Cols & EG.
The only change I see to Mo’s role is that I think he’ll be off the ball more and they’ll put Delly on the ball to initiate offense.
Then Mo will be free to shoot until the cows come home.
Also, this allows Delly to guard the point and let Mo defend the weakest perimeter threat.
I think we’ll see a ton of small ball lineups on the 2nd unit with Delly, Mo, and JR/Shump… and I think it will help the 2nd unit’s offense tremendously.
They play well together so why not? He has a great mid-range shot that is consistent.